[Method] Afrikancel's Diet Megathread

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After an overwhelmingly large demand for me to make a diet megathread, I have compiled an overview of food I believe will improve your nutrient profile. Note that this isn't a diet guide because then we would have to consider frequency of intake and relative proprotions of foods. We would also have to discuss seasonings and salt/potassium shuttling but this is too high IQ and complicated for a single thread. It also doesn't include ideal cooking methods for foods which can vary. This is included in my personalized diet. For your situation (allergies /intolerencies/gym goals/physique goals) , I can design a diet plan specifically for you for $10 (it will be a much more comprehensive guide than this thread). Since I have adopted this diet, my mental health has improved and my energy levels.
This is breif and I have only listed 7 foods with a deep explanation behind it. This took a lot of my own time to prepare so i hope you appreciate it :ogre::ogre:

God-teir foods
Liver

Liver is the ultimate superfood and has the richest micronutrient profile. It is the only god-teir food in my eyes as nothing comes close to it except for perhaps other organ meats. Other organ meats aren't as palatable (kidney can taste like urine) or as easily available. Its chief macronutrients constitute protein and fat (cholesterol). The fat acts as a carrier to help the absorption of fat soluble vitamins (A,D, E and K.). Without fat these vitamins wouldn't be absorbed efficiently (Insert diagram) Warning: Liver has a very high amount of vitamin A and unlike beta-carotene, the body can't self regulate. Limit liver intake to 5 ounces a week for larger active males and 3 ounces a week for less active small framed males (under 5'7).

Ideal Source: Kosher, organic, grass fed bison. Eat what the chosen people eat. Satisfactory source: beef liver from a goy butcher.
Unsatisfactory: Large stores such as walmart.


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Excellent Protein Sources
Red meat

You should be consuming at least 1 portion of red meat everyday. 2 portions is ideal. Red meat has an excellent macronutrient and micronutrient profile. Red meat is superior to chicken as the latter is typically more factory process and lacks key nutrients. Chicken is also rich in polyunsaturates which is not condusive to looksmaxxing; saturated fats are. Do not buy ground meat but rather whole meats that you can cut up yourself at home or have a butcher do it for you. Ground meat may be sourced from multiple animals and has a greater risk of contaminants and disease. This can still be okay as long as it is fresh and you trust your butcher; ideally ground your own meat at home for a small cost. Ground meat is easier to digest than steak which you should avoid as it will sit in the gut too long. It isn't the meat itself but rather your digestion ability. The ideal is small chunks so its still easier to digest but still requires chewing (stimulate jaw or else you will lose bone mass in the jaw over time. Additionally, you can have the red meat cooked to taste.

Ideal source: Grass fed bison (hard to source so try calling reputable butchers in your area)
Satisfactory source: grass fed organic beef Unsatisfactory: Soy fed factory beef from walmart.
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EGGS
Eggs are a good source of protein and fats. They are often consumed by a large array of animals because of their rich nutrient profile. Do not overcook eggs as that will break down the nutrients. Cook it so its slightly runny/gooey.

Ideal source: kosher free range organic turkey/duck/ other large bird eggs Satisfactory source: free range organic chicken eggs
Unsatisfactory source: walmart factory/intensively reared eggs from soy fed chickens as these have a worse nutrient profile.

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Shrimp
Shrimps are high in cholesterol (good for homones and skin), protein and very high in seleniumwhich is essential in reducing oxidative stress and aids in thryoid function.Reducing systemic inflammation is extremely important to looksmaxxing. This food allowed me to reach my leanest physique to date. Since i stopped consuming it so frequently, my physique deteriorated. There is no ideal source on shrimp as most are grown in shitholes in asia.
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Salmon
This is where you get your omega 3's from. Salmon is an easy to digest food and your body needs it badly. How good do you feel after eating salmon? I feel best when i eat salmon twice a week, anymore at you are over exposing yourself to heavy metal contamination. NT people may be able to tolerate more over a long period of time but chronic heavy metal exposure is worst for mentalcels/autists.
Ideal source: fresh market, river salmon
Satisfactory source: non-farmed salmon
Unsastifactory source: farmed salmon from the 3rd world
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Key Vegetables and Fruits
Spinach

Spinach is a great vegetable. It should be steamed or cooked to reduce the risk of large calcium oxalate compounds forming in the body. For most people it isn't necessary but if you are consuming spinach twice a day (minimum tbh) then you should cook your spinach. It also improves absorption. It is high i potassium and most westerners are deficient in potassium. You need a minimum of 6700mg of potassium a day imo. Global health organisations have constantly raised the recommended minimum intake of potassium in the past 2 decades. I still think they are short of how much we actually need. In my opinion you should consume as much potassium as salt in your diet.
Ideal source: organic, non-GMO grown i a region with an ozone layer
Satisfactory source: pesticide free spinach Unsatistfactory source: heavy pesticide/insecticide, GMO and grown in Australia.
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Foods to avoid
Pasta

A high bloat food and can cause inflammation in some individuals. I would advise swapping out pasta for rice. Rice is nutrient poor but is an easily absorbable carb source with low inflammation and easy digestion. This will make you feel better. Also the reduction in inflammation will help you absorb other foods better too and improve your immune system. Inflammation may increase cortisol. If we look at people who eat 8+ meals a day such as Thor or Brian shaw, we can see that they opt for rice because it is easy on the gut. If they had pasta they would suffer muscle loss, bloat and worse. Rice is a better carb source for bloatcels and most of us tbh.
 
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is liver okay to eat multiple times a week? it's like the cheapest meat I can find here
Depends on your size. If you are big framed and over 6' barefoot in the evening then you can have 5 ounces a week. I would recommend 2 ounces every 3 days, kind of like a multivitamin. If you are small then have 3 ounces a week
 

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is liver okay to eat multiple times a week? it's like the cheapest meat I can find here
tastes bitter and repulsive tbh, go for 200grams of chicken breast 50 denars, around 55-60 grams of protein
 

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tastes bitter and repulsive tbh, go for 200grams of chicken breast 50 denars, around 55-60 grams of protein
Chicken is a poor nutrient source. Getting protein is easy but getting micronutrients and quality cholesterol isn't. This is what we should aim for
 

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tastes bitter and repulsive tbh, go for 200grams of chicken breast 50 denars, around 55-60 grams of protein
I unironically like the taste if cooked well ngl, also where tf do you find chicken breast for 250denars/kg?

Depends on your size. If you are big framed and over 6' barefoot in the evening then you can have 5 ounces a week. I would recommend 2 ounces every 3 days, kind of like a multivitamin. If you are small then have 3 ounces a week
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I unironically like the taste if cooked well ngl, also where tf do you find chicken breast for 250denars/kg?
u nekoja mesara, curious kolku e liver kaj nas?
 

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You have no idea what you are talking about, tons of misinformation in this thread. The diet that you recommend is high in cholesterol, saturated fat and animal protein which are highly associated with heart disease, cancer diabetes, inflammatory diseases and aging. I can see why people think a diet like this is beneficial, the standard western diet is extremely unhealthy and a lot of the consequences of following a diet like yours are longterm, so people who switch from a shitty diet to a less shitty one will feel better short-term.
 

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You have no idea what you are talking about, tons of misinformation in this thread. The diet that you recommend is high in cholesterol, saturated fat and animal protein which are highly associated with heart disease, cancer diabetes, inflammatory diseases and aging. I can see why people think a diet like this is beneficial, the standard western diet is extremely unhealthy and a lot of the consequences of following a diet like yours are longterm, so people who switch from a shitty diet to a less shitty one will feel better short-term.
Dietary cholesterol has no impact on developing cardiovadcular disease. It is refined carbs, inflammatory super heated llant oils and sugars (from garbage food) that aren't attached to fibre (like fruit) that fuck your body up.Your notion of the topic is dependent on outdated studies of the 20th century. Modern science proves you are wrong.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5946211/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6024687/
 

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Dietary cholesterol has no impact on developing cardiovadcular disease. It is refined carbs, inflammatory super heated llant oils and sugars (from garbage food) that aren't attached to fibre (like fruit) that fuck your body up.Your notion of the topic is dependent on outdated studies of the 20th century. Modern science proves you are wrong.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5946211/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6024687/
no you have no idea what you are talking about, I know that scientific literature on this topic and every expert on this planet agrees with me, it's not debatable. I would like to argue with you and debunk the studies in detail but since I have exams coming up I don't have time to argue over this right now. Look a bit critically at the studies yourself and you will come to the same conclusions. The overwhelmingly amount of research and evidence agrees with me.
 

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no you have no idea what you are talking about, I know that scientific literature on this topic and every expert on this planet agrees with me, it's not debatable. I would like to argue with you and debunk the studies in detail but since I have exams coming up I don't have time to argue over this right now. Look a bit critically at the studies yourself and you will come to the same conclusions. The overwhelmingly amount of research and evidence agrees with me.
I am fully up to date on this topic and have spoken to professors who cobduct reasearch in this field. The overwhelming amount of modern academics agree with me.
 

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I am fully up to date on this topic and have spoken to professors who cobduct reasearch in this field. The overwhelming amount of modern academics agree with me.
All the studies supporting your view are industry funded studies by the egg, and meat industry. Most of the time they examine people with an already high cholesterol. They do this because then the cholesterol doesn't get affected much when you add extra dietary cholesterol. You are also ignoring and enormous amount of evidence supporting my view.
 

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All the studies supporting your view are industry funded studies by the egg, and meat industry. Most of the time they examine people with an already high cholesterol. They do this because then the cholesterol doesn't get affected much when you add extra dietary cholesterol. You are also ignoring and enormous amount of evidence supporting my view.
You also fail to consider genetic adaptations for certain diets. All my ancestors consumed high amounts of animal fats, dairy and protein. Look toward the inuit peoples. They aren't negatively impacted by a high fat diet. Since adopting diets that my ancestors consume,my GI issues have completely disappeared

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8871682/
 
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You also fail to consider genetic adaptations for certain diets. All my ancestors consumed high amounts of animal fats, dairy and protein. Look toward the inuit peoples. They aren't negatively impacted by a high fat diet. Since adopting diets that my ancestors consume,my GI issues have completely disappeared
I have looked toward the inuit people and other populations that mainly consumed meat and were negatively affected by the high animal fat diet. Most of our ancestors depending on the location mainly ate fruits, starches and occasionally meat. Your GI issues disappearing con have multiple reasons and is thus not a good indicator that your diet is healthy. As I said above switching from a bad diet to a less bad diet can make you feel good short-term, but your diet involves serious long term risks. The longest living and healthiest populations on earth all ate a mainly plant based, high fiber diet. Just look at the blue zones and their diets.
 

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I have looked toward the inuit people and other populations that mainly consumed meat and were negatively affected by the high animal fat diet. Most of our ancestors depending on the location mainly ate fruits, starches and occasionally meat. Your GI issues disappearing con have multiple reasons and is thus not a good indicator that your diet is healthy. As I said above switching from a bad diet to a less bad diet can make you feel good short-term, but your diet involves serious long term risks. The longest living and healthiest populations on earth all ate a mainly plant based, high fiber diet. Just look at the blue zones and their diets.
Citation?
 

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I have looked toward the inuit people and other populations that mainly consumed meat and were negatively affected by the high animal fat diet. Most of our ancestors depending on the location mainly ate fruits, starches and occasionally meat. Your GI issues disappearing con have multiple reasons and is thus not a good indicator that your diet is healthy. As I said above switching from a bad diet to a less bad diet can make you feel good short-term, but your diet involves serious long term risks. The longest living and healthiest populations on earth all ate a mainly plant based, high fiber diet. Just look at the blue zones and their diets.
This is pseudo science and has been disproven many times. Our evolutionary ancestors didn’t have access to fruit, veggies and all of these foods year round. Most people consumed diets high in animal meats and ate other things seasonally. There are no direct correlation studies on the dangers of eating JUST a high meat diet but the studies consist of the average western diet which is processed meat along with processed carbs which is extremely inflammatory. Scientists actually attribute meat eating to our brain development while we evolved not from plants. Veganism is overall unhealthy and leads to infertility, nutritional deficiencies and underdeveloped babies. Also as @Afrikancel stated diets were different for certain groups of people.
 

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This is pseudo science and has been disproven many times. Our evolutionary ancestors didn’t have access to fruit, veggies and all of these foods year round. Most people consumed diets high in animal meats and ate other things seasonally. There are no direct correlation studies on the dangers of eating JUST a high meat diet but the studies consist of the average western diet which is processed meat along with processed carbs which is extremely inflammatory. Scientists actually attribute meat eating to our brain development while we evolved not from plants. Veganism is overall unhealthy and leads to infertility, nutritional deficiencies and underdeveloped babies. Also as @Afrikancel stated diets were different for certain groups of people.
High IQ brother. Glad to see some of us have not fallen for the high inflammatory kike diets.
 

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High IQ brother. Glad to see some of us have not fallen for the high inflammatory kike diets.
Go vegan and turn into a little feminine pussy goy. Also veganism is so much more detrimental to the environment than they mention. Hypocritical as fuck just like liberals. Claim we need to allow mass immigration yet it is the main cause of climate change from all the resources we contribute to the third world immigrants.
 

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nahthey'llthinkimafreakorsomething(sryfornospacesmykeyboardfck'dup)
why would they
just say smth like
hey dad/mom I heard liver is very healthy and tasty too, I'd like to try it, can we buy it?
plus why the fuck do you care what you're parents think about what meat you want to eat... it's not like saying you're gay and suck cock for money after school
 

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why would they
just say smth like
hey dad/mom I heard liver is very healthy and tasty too, I'd like to try it, can we buy it?
plus why the fuck do you care what you're parents think about what meat you want to eat... it's not like saying you're gay and suck cock for money after school
That is a very specific example :feelshehe::feelshehe::feelshehe:
 

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Mackerel/sardines/other small fatty fish are also great nutrient dense foods that are cheaper and lower on the food chain so they dont bioaccumulate as many toxins. Canned sardines and mackerel own, even tho you probably get some bpafrom the can.

Also I eat like a pound of chicken liver a week and have for months and have only seen positive effects. Unless you're taking supplemental synthetic vitamin A or eating shark liver I think the hypervitaminosis A fears are largely unfounded. All of the cases I could find records of were from supplementation.

Other foods to avoid imo would be any plant based cooking oils other than coconut oil. They are highly inflammatory, super high in omega 6, generally fucked up and bad. Olive oil is arguable but most of you niggas should cook with coconut oil or animal fat. I would also cut out all nuts, seeds, grains for a few weeks and reintroduce one at a time because these foods are super high in anti nutrients and most people are intolerant to one or more of these foods, especially in modernity with the prevalence of gut inflammation/antibiotic use/etc.

Dont listen to anyone who tells you to go vegan or vegetarian, theyre either retarded or trying to kill you. Maybe both.
 

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Mackerel/sardines/other small fatty fish are also great nutrient dense foods that are cheaper and lower on the food chain so they dont bioaccumulate as many toxins. Canned sardines and mackerel own, even tho you probably get some bpafrom the can.

Also I eat like a pound of chicken liver a week and have for months and have only seen positive effects. Unless you're taking supplemental synthetic vitamin A or eating shark liver I think the hypervitaminosis A fears are largely unfounded. All of the cases I could find records of were from supplementation.

Other foods to avoid imo would be any plant based cooking oils other than coconut oil. They are highly inflammatory, super high in omega 6, generally fucked up and bad. Olive oil is arguable but most of you niggas should cook with coconut oil or animal fat. I would also cut out all nuts, seeds, grains for a few weeks and reintroduce one at a time because these foods are super high in anti nutrients and most people are intolerant to one or more of these foods, especially in modernity with the prevalence of gut inflammation/antibiotic use/etc.

Dont listen to anyone who tells you to go vegan or vegetarian, theyre either retarded or trying to kill you. Maybe both.
High IQ. I completely agree on nuts and anti-nutrients. Plant based oils are extremely inflammatory indeed
 

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Also I eat like a pound of chicken liver a week and have for months and have only seen positive effects.
so is chicken liver enough? as compared to pig or cow liver?
Cause that's the only liver a butcher next to my house sells regularly...
 

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so is chicken liver enough? as compared to pig or cow liver?
Cause that's the only liver a butcher next to my house sells regularly...
Chicken liver isnt as good as beef liver or bison liver. The bigger the animal, the richer the liver
 

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so is chicken liver enough? as compared to pig or cow liver?
Cause that's the only liver a butcher next to my house sells regularly...
Much better than nothing, not as good as beef/lamb liver. If you ask your butcher theyll probably order it for you and its pretty cheap.
 

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Much better than nothing, not as good as beef/lamb liver. If you ask your butcher theyll probably order it for you and its pretty cheap.
hmm, I suspect they won't give a fuck but I'll ask for the order
 

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and what about things like hearts or stomachs? are they any good?
Organs in general are going to be more nutrient dense than muscle meat, eat as much variety as you can. That said liver is the king of the organs in terms of health imo. Heart tastes dope. Stomach/intestine prepared right is pretty good too.
 

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After an overwhelmingly large demand for me to make a diet megathread, I have compiled an overview of food I believe will improve your nutrient profile. Note that this isn't a diet guide because then we would have to consider frequency of intake and relative proprotions of foods. We would also have to discuss seasonings and salt/potassium shuttling but this is too high IQ and complicated for a single thread. It also doesn't include ideal cooking methods for foods which can vary. This is included in my personalized diet. For your situation (allergies /intolerencies/gym goals/physique goals) , I can design a diet plan specifically for you for $10 (it will be a much more comprehensive guide than this thread). Since I have adopted this diet, my mental health has improved and my energy levels.
This is breif and I have only listed 7 foods with a deep explanation behind it. This took a lot of my own time to prepare so i hope you appreciate it :ogre::ogre:

God-teir foods
Liver

Liver is the ultimate superfood and has the richest micronutrient profile. It is the only god-teir food in my eyes as nothing comes close to it except for perhaps other organ meats. Other organ meats aren't as palatable (kidney can taste like urine) or as easily available. Its chief macronutrients constitute protein and fat (cholesterol). The fat acts as a carrier to help the absorption of fat soluble vitamins (A,D, E and K.). Without fat these vitamins wouldn't be absorbed efficiently (Insert diagram) Warning: Liver has a very high amount of vitamin A and unlike beta-carotene, the body can't self regulate. Limit liver intake to 5 ounces a week for larger active males and 3 ounces a week for less active small framed males (under 5'7).

Ideal Source: Kosher, organic, grass fed bison. Eat what the chosen people eat. Satisfactory source: beef liver from a goy butcher.
Unsatisfactory: Large stores such as walmart.


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Excellent Protein Sources
Red meat

You should be consuming at least 1 portion of red meat everyday. 2 portions is ideal. Red meat has an excellent macronutrient and micronutrient profile. Red meat is superior to chicken as the latter is typically more factory process and lacks key nutrients. Chicken is also rich in polyunsaturates which is not condusive to looksmaxxing; saturated fats are. Do not buy ground meat but rather whole meats that you can cut up yourself at home or have a butcher do it for you. Ground meat may be sourced from multiple animals and has a greater risk of contaminants and disease. This can still be okay as long as it is fresh and you trust your butcher; ideally ground your own meat at home for a small cost. Ground meat is easier to digest than steak which you should avoid as it will sit in the gut too long. It isn't the meat itself but rather your digestion ability. The ideal is small chunks so its still easier to digest but still requires chewing (stimulate jaw or else you will lose bone mass in the jaw over time. Additionally, you can have the red meat cooked to taste.

Ideal source: Grass fed bison (hard to source so try calling reputable butchers in your area)
Satisfactory source: grass fed organic beef Unsatisfactory: Soy fed factory beef from walmart.
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EGGS
Eggs are a good source of protein and fats. They are often consumed by a large array of animals because of their rich nutrient profile. Do not overcook eggs as that will break down the nutrients. Cook it so its slightly runny/gooey.

Ideal source: kosher free range organic turkey/duck/ other large bird eggs Satisfactory source: free range organic chicken eggs
Unsatisfactory source: walmart factory/intensively reared eggs from soy fed chickens as these have a worse nutrient profile.

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Shrimp
Shrimps are high in cholesterol (good for homones and skin), protein and very high in seleniumwhich is essential in reducing oxidative stress and aids in thryoid function.Reducing systemic inflammation is extremely important to looksmaxxing. This food allowed me to reach my leanest physique to date. Since i stopped consuming it so frequently, my physique deteriorated. There is no ideal source on shrimp as most are grown in shitholes in asia.
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Salmon
This is where you get your omega 3's from. Salmon is an easy to digest food and your body needs it badly. How good do you feel after eating salmon? I feel best when i eat salmon twice a week, anymore at you are over exposing yourself to heavy metal contamination. NT people may be able to tolerate more over a long period of time but chronic heavy metal exposure is worst for mentalcels/autists.
Ideal source: fresh market, river salmon
Satisfactory source: non-farmed salmon
Unsastifactory source: farmed salmon from the 3rd world
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Key Vegetables and Fruits
Spinach

Spinach is a great vegetable. It should be steamed or cooked to reduce the risk of large calcium oxalate compounds forming in the body. For most people it isn't necessary but if you are consuming spinach twice a day (minimum tbh) then you should cook your spinach. It also improves absorption. It is high i potassium and most westerners are deficient in potassium. You need a minimum of 6700mg of potassium a day imo. Global health organisations have constantly raised the recommended minimum intake of potassium in the past 2 decades. I still think they are short of how much we actually need. In my opinion you should consume as much potassium as salt in your diet.
Ideal source: organic, non-GMO grown i a region with an ozone layer
Satisfactory source: pesticide free spinach Unsatistfactory source: heavy pesticide/insecticide, GMO and grown in Australia.
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Foods to avoid
Pasta

A high bloat food and can cause inflammation in some individuals. I would advise swapping out pasta for rice. Rice is nutrient poor but is an easily absorbable carb source with low inflammation and easy digestion. This will make you feel better. Also the reduction in inflammation will help you absorb other foods better too and improve your immune system. Inflammation may increase cortisol. If we look at people who eat 8+ meals a day such as Thor or Brian shaw, we can see that they opt for rice because it is easy on the gut. If they had pasta they would suffer muscle loss, bloat and worse. Rice is a better carb source for bloatcels and most of us tbh.
Do shrimp and Liver raise HDL chelosterol or the bad LDL one?
 

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This is pseudo science and has been disproven many times. Our evolutionary ancestors didn’t have access to fruit, veggies and all of these foods year round. Most people consumed diets high in animal meats and ate other things seasonally. There are no direct correlation studies on the dangers of eating JUST a high meat diet but the studies consist of the average western diet which is processed meat along with processed carbs which is extremely inflammatory. Scientists actually attribute meat eating to our brain development while we evolved not from plants. Veganism is overall unhealthy and leads to infertility, nutritional deficiencies and underdeveloped babies. Also as @Afrikancel stated diets were different for certain groups of people.
You are wrong we know that we have strong correlational evidence as well as mechanistic evidence that meat is bad for you. Scientist actually contributed cooking to our brain development, because it allowed us to cook starches to fuel our brain. Our brain doesn't run on fat, it runs on carbs. There is tons of evidence suggesting that a plant based diet is the most nutritionally beneficial for us. And yes our ancestors ate mostly plants, any anthropologist will agree with me. If you look at the human physiology you will realize that humans have evolved to eat plants, we don't have any characteristics of an carnivore. However like all apes we can survive on meat, but that doesn't mean that it is the most ideal diet.
 

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You are wrong we know that we have strong correlational evidence as well as mechanistic evidence that meat is bad for you. Scientist actually contributed cooking to our brain development, because it allowed us to cook starches to fuel our brain. Our brain doesn't run on fat, it runs on carbs. There is tons of evidence suggesting that a plant based diet is the most nutritionally beneficial for us. And yes our ancestors ate mostly plants, any anthropologist will agree with me. If you look at the human physiology you will realize that humans have evolved to eat plants, we don't have any characteristics of an carnivore. However like all apes we can survive on meat, but that doesn't mean that it is the most ideal diet.
Who cares you will Look like shit on a vegan diet and thats all that matters. People are living to 100 years nowadays so the affects of the Western diet on Health cant be that Bad.

A bigger question @Afrikancel is this worth all the effort or will i just feel „slightly“ better if yes than fuck it and i will just stay on my gym bro diet
 

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Who cares you will Look like shit on a vegan diet and thats all that matters. People are living to 100 years nowadays so the affects of the Western diet on Health cant be that Bad.

A bigger question @Afrikancel is this worth all the effort or will i just feel „slightly“ better if yes than fuck it and i will just stay on my gym bro diet
People in the west aren't living to 100 years. The rates of chronic disease and the health care cast are on a constant rise in the west. People in the blue zones are living up to 100 years and have very law rates of disease and guess what their diets consist of mostly? It's a high carb, high fiber mostly plant based diet. I don't know why you think you will look like shit on a plant based diet? Plant based diet can have anti aging benefits as well as skin benefits and yes you can also build muscle on a plant based diet.
 

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People in the west aren't living to 100 years. The rates of chronic disease and the health care cast are on a constant rise in the west. People in the blue zones are living up to 100 years and have very law rates of disease and guess what their diets consist of mostly? It's a high carb, high fiber mostly plant based diet. I don't know why you think you will look like shit on a plant based diet? Plant based diet can have anti aging benefits as well as skin benefits and yes you can also build muscle on a plant based diet.
I srsly rather only live to my 80s than living a life being skinny with a perma bloated face because of this diet
 

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I srsly rather only live to my 80s than living a life being skinny with a perma bloated face because of this diet
You can build muscle on a plant based diet. The whole carbs will bloat you thing is a meme, your much more likely to get bloated from eating high amounts of fats.
 

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Very high IQ thread here @Afrikancel well done. But it needs more info on Vitamin K2 importance. If you’ve read Weston Price’s work you’ll see just how important that vitamin is for teeth and jaws and how all ancient cultures incorporated it without exception. Luckily liver is rich in K2.
Imo K2 is on par with mewing in terms of importance but it’s very underrated.
 

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People in the west aren't living to 100 years. The rates of chronic disease and the health care cast are on a constant rise in the west. People in the blue zones are living up to 100 years and have very law rates of disease and guess what their diets consist of mostly? It's a high carb, high fiber mostly plant based diet. I don't know why you think you will look like shit on a plant based diet? Plant based diet can have anti aging benefits as well as skin benefits and yes you can also build muscle on a plant based diet.
 

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Who cares you will Look like shit on a vegan diet and thats all that matters. People are living to 100 years nowadays so the affects of the Western diet on Health cant be that Bad.

A bigger question @Afrikancel is this worth all the effort or will i just feel „slightly“ better if yes than fuck it and i will just stay on my gym bro diet
Absolutely. Just have 1 portion of liver a week to boost your micronutrient profile
 

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Absolutely. Just have 1 portion of liver a week to boost your micronutrient profile
More importantly if any of you reproduce get your kids on this diet so they develop correctly. Nutrition + Tough foods + Optimal hormones + Active lifestyle + Breastfed = Ideal development and life free of inceldom
 

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The guy frank tufano is full of bs, he is known for misrepresenting data and lying. All across the blue zones 95% of their foods were from plants and meat dairy was consumed rarely and in moderation. The Okinawan ate about 1-2% of their calories from meat or dairy, the Sardinians mostly ate whole grains fruits and vegetables and very little fish, dairy and meat. Frank actually made the point here and compared their diet to the American one and claimed that they are similar, because the percentage of calories that we take in from plant sources vs animal sources is similar to theirs and that food quality is the only reason they are healthier. He completely ignores that the average American calorie intake is higher in total and thus the total meat consumption is much higher and that Americans don't consume a lot of whole plant foods which are the ones I am advocating for. Oreos would fall into the calories from plant based sources section for example. Another thing that screws the statistic is the lower calorie density in fruits and vegetables which increases the calories by animal products by a large amount(because of the higher calorie density, which in turn makes it seem like they ate more meat than they actually did. Somewhere in the end of the video he seriously brought up malnourished countries like India to make a point that plant based diet are correlated with poor health jfl.

TLDR Frank Tufano has no idea what he is talking about and is misrepresenting data and lying on propose to serve his propose. Also have you seen his blood test yet? or any blood test from any of those carnivore diet youtubers. Anyone who think that those guys are healthy must be brain damaged.
What bothers me is that people are dumb enough to believe everything they hear as long as it validates their bad habits, without applying any critical thinking or doing research on their own.
 

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All across the blue zones 95% of their foods were from plants and meat dairy was consumed rarely and in moderation. The Okinawan ate about 1-2% of their calories from meat or dairy, the Sardinians mostly ate whole grains fruits and vegetables and very little fish, dairy and meat.
But that's not true
https://www.bluezones.com/exploration/sardinia-italy/
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/026010609200800312?journalCode=naha

As you can see, the okinawans that actually live longer than the average person consume more animal products than the average japanese person.

I am not gonna go in to the comparison of the wpd and these cause I don't agree with franks point.

Also have you seen his blood test yet? or any blood test from any of those carnivore diet youtubers. Anyone who think that those guys are healthy must be brain damaged.
What are you talking about?



Everything is in perfect condition except (((cholesterol)))




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

Waiting for the day a person makes a video like this but carnivore edition (hint: not gonna happen)
 

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But that's not true
https://www.bluezones.com/exploration/sardinia-italy/
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/026010609200800312?journalCode=naha

As you can see, the okinawans that actually live longer than the average person consume more animal products than the average japanese person.

I am not gonna go in to the comparison of the wpd and these cause I don't agree with franks point.


What are you talking about?



Everything is in perfect condition except (((cholesterol)))




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

Waiting for the day a person makes a video like this but carnivore edition (hint: not gonna happen)
The okinawans ate mostly yam, and some other fruits and vegetables and I already adressed the Sardinian diet.
There is a direct link between cholesterol and heart disease independently of other factors. The one guy you you linked almost died because of his all meat diet btw. He also believes the earth is flat, that gravity doesn't exist, and that mass shooters are the heroes of our society. His favorite hobby is sun gazing jfl and is absolutely mental, he has been in mental institutions before, he doesn't believe in science and if you watch some of his videos it's very evident that he isn't a very credible person.
I didn't watch the videos about the "malnourished vegans "and I don't really care cause a) they are anecdotal and b) a vegan diet doesn't necessarily mean a healthy diet, I could be eating a vegan diet by eating Oreos all day and that's obviously not healthy. I am advocating for a Whole Foods plant based diet and c) the research shows that whole food plant based diet is one of the healthiest diets to eat.
Another thing about the blood test of those who follow the carnivore diet, a lot of them aren't not only at alarmingly high cholesterol, but have several other issues. Dr Shawn not a doctor anymore baker(another one of those carnivore diet youtubers) for example not only had the testosterone of an 80 year old man, he was also on the verge of diabetes and had very high cholesterol on top of that.
I bet you don't even know who these guys are or what they believe or what kinda evidence they present, you probably just went to youtube or google and searched for "why vegan diets are bad" and linked the first things that came up.
 

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The okinawans ate mostly yam, and some other fruits and vegetables and I already adressed the Sardinian diet.
There is a direct link between cholesterol and heart disease independently of other factors. The one guy you you linked almost died because of his all meat diet btw. He also believes the earth is flat, that gravity doesn't exist, and that mass shooters are the heroes of our society. His favorite hobby is sun gazing jfl and is absolutely mental, he has been in mental institutions before, he doesn't believe in science and if you watch some of his videos it's very evident that he isn't a very credible person.
I didn't watch the videos about the "malnourished vegans "and I don't really care cause a) they are anecdotal and b) a vegan diet doesn't necessarily mean a healthy diet, I could be eating a vegan diet by eating Oreos all day and that's obviously not healthy. I am advocating for a Whole Foods plant based diet and c) the research shows that whole food plant based diet is one of the healthiest diets to eat.
Another thing about the blood test of those who follow the carnivore diet, a lot of them aren't not only at alarmingly high cholesterol, but have several other issues. Dr Shawn not a doctor anymore baker(another one of those carnivore diet youtubers) for example not only had the testosterone of an 80 year old man, he was also on the verge of diabetes and had very high cholesterol on top of that.
I bet you don't even know who these guys are or what they believe or what kinda evidence they present, you probably just went to youtube or google and searched for "why vegan diets are bad" and linked the first things that came up.
All you're doing is spouting ad hominems and statements without citing any sources in this whole thread. Shawn Bakers "I eat 5 grain fed ribeyes a day" diet Isn't what @Afrikancel was talking about in this thread but, high nutrient density high quality foods like liver, eggs and fish.
 
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