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After a year of consultations & personal research, here's some of what I've learned. I'll be shilling two procedures I've decided to undergo: AGGA and deviated septum repair. I'll come back here one last time in 6 months to report before & after pics, and I'll respond to questions and banter tonight. Dentists and orthodontists will often lie to you if it gives them a profit, so ALWAYS get a second opinion.

You're a maxillalet. How did things get this way in the first place? Two causes: bad tongue posture and mouthbreathing, especially in early childhood. You hopefully already know this much.

You need a two-pronged approach to achieve your genetic potential: 1)restore facial bones to your natty limit, and 2) develop proper posture to maintain your gains.

Restoring Facial Bones to Natty Limit
Fuck a bimax, fuck a Lefort, fuck a cheekbone implant, fuck anything that isn't AGGA. AGGA works how you wish mewing did. It fixes TMJ and restores your facial bones to their natural limit, regardless of your current age. It repositions the upper & lower jaws in ANY direction to the exact position that is most comfortable and most attractive.

In the 21st century, there is literally never a case where bimax/jaw surgery can outperform an AGGA. Modern dentistry/orthodontistry moves VERY slowly, so many orthos still do these operations because it makes them tons of money. Only TMJ & AGGA specialists have a strong understanding of how complex the jaw really is.

Most orthodontists don't do this procedure, so if you bring it up they won't even refer you to a specialist because they won't get a dime for doing it. Instead they'll recommend extracting teeth (further recessing your face) or breaking your jaw, which will move your palate but not your cheekbones, leaving you looking Mongoloid from a side profile. Plus if you have TMJ, this approach rarely fixes it. Just search "AGGA specialist (your state)" and you'll find someone.

Improving Tongue Posture
Many people have poor tongue posture in their sleep due to a deviated septum. Do you often wake up with a super dry mouth? Find yourself usually breathing thru one nostril? Snore? This is you. Consult an ENT (ear nose & throat) doc about fixing it. It's usually an in-and-out procedure that results in a lifetime of gains.

I'll add more info depending on what kind of questions/banter this post receives.
 
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Many people have poor tongue posture in their sleep due to a deviated septum. Do you often wake up with a super dry mouth? Find yourself usually breathing thru one nostril? Snore? This is you. Consult an ENT (ear nose & throat) doc about fixing it. It's usually an in-and-out procedure that results in a lifetime of gains.
I'm just gonna tape my mouth tbh
 
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bro agga just shifts the tooth ridge forward, if 1000g facepulling can barely cause maxilla changes a little piece of plastic on a 2mm wide section of plastic on the palate is going to do literally nothing besides mess up your alveolar ridge
 
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people that post about FAG(GA) should be banned it's ruining peoples lives get MSE and STFU
bro agga just shifts the tooth ridge forward, if 1000g facepulling can barely cause maxilla changes a little piece of plastic on a 2mm wise section of plastic on the palate is going to do literally nothing besides mess up your alveolar ridge
1000 grams does nothing what ?? should i go for 2000 when i get my facepuller then or what do you suggest
 
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Mse and facemask>>>>>>>AGGA
AGGA doesn’t do shit for gonial angle either
 
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MSE all the way.
 
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people that post about FAG(GA) should be banned it's ruining peoples lives get MSE and STFU

1000 grams does nothing what ?? should i go for 2000 when i get my facepuller then or what do you suggest
when you pull on the teeth you will get .3 mm a month, 1000 is fine for decent results if 1. You split your midpalatal suture, 2. You use a pulling method that puts force right on the bone and not the teeth
 
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Bad research greycel.

Study every millisecond of all videos in this channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSLsXvyhnpN3Z-CBKW8OnDA/videos

plus study his homepage and understand why devices like (f)agga are trash and useless.

youre lucky that youre in the right forum though with some educated ppl here. Otherwise you wouldve gotten some useless, nonsensical trash treatments that are 100% trash.
 
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people that post about FAG(GA) should be banned it's ruining peoples lives get MSE and STFU

1000 grams does nothing what ?? should i go for 2000 when i get my facepuller then or what do you suggest
lmao 2kg

say either by sleep and focus during day or say bye to facemask after you get sore and palatal tissue wounded within 1 week
 
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Agga is fine if you only get 5mm if expansion even Ronald said it himself.
Retard aspie here denounce agga cause Ronald went over 1cm of expansion not 5mm jfl
 
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Im really sorry for the guy though, he does "gods work" in that he explains and shows everything in detail, like every treatment he did, even if it was absolutely bad. But he saves alot of frustration to other ppl who wouldve otherwise gotten same procedures as him and would be disappointed afterwards.

Like I legit think that he deserves to get a good maxilla after going through all the treatments that he did and had little success with those.

Agga is fine if you only get 5mm if expansion even Ronald said it himself.
Retard aspie here denounce agga cause Ronald went over 1cm of expansion not 5mm jfl
well 5mm is barely a noteworthy change, its 2.5mm per side. It is questionable if its even worth doing at all for 5mm.
 
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lmao 2kg

say either by sleep and focus during day or say bye to facemask after you get sore and palatal tissue wounded within 1 week
I AM A WARRIOR I WILL PUSH THROUGH
 
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Im really sorry for the guy though, he does "gods work" in that he explains and shows everything in detail, like every treatment he did, even if it was absolutely bad. But he saves alot of frustration to other ppl who wouldve otherwise gotten same procedures as him and would be disappointed afterwards.

Like I legit think that he deserves to get a good maxilla after going through all the treatments that he did and had little success with those.
I mean he's fine now, just needs msdo and full dental implants in maxilla and mandible
 
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Bad research greycel.
Study every millisecond of all videos in this channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSLsXvyhnpN3Z-CBKW8OnDA/videos
You'd have to be as retarded as this dude to believe that wobbly teeth were caused solely by AGGA. Jaw Hacks is nothing more than an aspie who's addicted to oral procedures. He posted this video over a year after completing his AGGA treatment (in which he quit his CAB early), after completing invisalign, and after he completed his MSE. This is all in the span of about 2 years, of course he fucked up his mouth and now he's having buyer's remorse because his teeth look worse than before he spent all this time and money. Now he's getting tunnel grafts & possibly just replacing all his teeth. The dude only has 12 teeth in his upper jaw due to unnecessary extractions out of the 16 you're supposed to have. But no, obviously AGGA is to blame :lul:
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Pic related is Ronny shortly after AGGA, then immediately after MSE. MSE is much better for laterally expanding the cheekbones, which we can all agree fatally descended Ron's 3/4 profile.

Instead of jumping to conclusions after getting just one opinion from some aspie with a YouTube channel, perhaps try reading up on many peer-reviewed scientific journals. I will append my related collection later.

I should reiterate that NO procedure is the right choice for every scenario. MSE has cases where it works better than AGGA, and vice versa. Both perform vastly better than jaw surgery. MSE does better at lateral expansion, AGGA does better at anterior and vertical expansion.

My issues are a vertically recessed maxilla, overjet, class III maloccusion, in which slightly elongating the face would provide a much better visual appearance. I already have wide cheekbones that appear flat due to poor anterior development, so MSE would not be ideal.
Oh, and essentially the only practical use for jaw surgery in 2020 is for people with horse mouth (excessive gums).
 
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You'd have to be as retarded as this dude to believe that wobbly teeth were caused solely by AGGA. Jaw Hacks is nothing more than an aspie who's addicted to oral procedures. He posted this video over a year after completing his AGGA treatment (in which he quit his CAB early), after completing invisalign, and after he completed his MSE. This is all in the span of about 2 years, of course he fucked up his mouth and now he's having buyer's remorse because his teeth look worse than before he spent all this time and money. Now he's getting tunnel grafts & possibly just replacing all his teeth. The dude only has 12 teeth in his upper jaw due to unnecessary extractions out of the 16 you're supposed to have. But no, obviously AGGA is to blame :lul:
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Pic related is Ronny shortly after AGGA, then immediately after MSE. MSE is much better for laterally expanding the cheekbones, which we can all agree fatally descended Ron's 3/4 profile.

Instead of jumping to conclusions after getting just one opinion from some aspie with a YouTube channel, perhaps try reading up on many peer-reviewed scientific journals. I will append my related collection later.

I should reiterate that NO procedure is the right choice for every scenario. MSE has cases where it works better than AGGA, and vice versa. Both perform vastly better than jaw surgery. MSE does better at lateral expansion, AGGA does better at anterior and vertical expansion.

My issues are a vertically recessed maxilla, overjet, class III maloccusion, in which slightly elongating the face would provide a much better visual appearance. I already have wide cheekbones that appear flat due to poor anterior development, so MSE would not be ideal.
Oh, and essentially the only practical use for jaw surgery in 2020 is for people with horse mouth (excessive gums).
Its hard to tell what exactly caused what for that dude after so many treatments.

Either way it was just a warning to be careful with that shit, as it can have unwanted negative side effects.

And Id rather value real life experience from users than some fkn scientific papers.

What do you mean expanded cheekbones descended his 3/4 profile? The right picture looks significantly better with the expanded cheekbones. It apparently also fixed some of the NCT he had, granted he lifts his forehead on the left picture, but by the looks of it his nct improved after expanded cheekbones.

Its very rare to look worse with more expanded and protruding cheekbones than flatter cheekbones. Look at the face on the left it looks flat like a low calss /low status hispanic, some random dude not even worth paying attention to, whereas with expanded cheekbones he actually looks like he has an actually forward growing face instead of inwards.
 
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Its hard to tell what exactly caused what for that dude after so many treatments.

Either way it was just a warning to be careful with that shit, as it can have unwanted negative side effects.
I agree, it's tough to jump to conclusions after this guy is by no means a scientific control. The problem with American orthodontists is that EVERY orthodontist you visit will recommend a procedure that only THEY can do, even if it fucks you up in the long run. Ronny might have a nice camera and a thousand followers on a YouTube channel, but the guy's obsessively retarded when it comes to ortho and should NEVER be taken seriously.

That said, you must be incredibly deluded if you think he looks better after MSE. Laterally expanded cheekbones is exclusively a feminine trait, but he also lost a significant amount of mass in his masseter. He literally went from being a sportsball gigachad to a programming virgin with one procedure.
Also, notice how nobody responds after you BTFO their shitty arguments :lul:
 
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You'd have to be as retarded as this dude to believe that wobbly teeth were caused solely by AGGA. Jaw Hacks is nothing more than an aspie who's addicted to oral procedures. He posted this video over a year after completing his AGGA treatment (in which he quit his CAB early), after completing invisalign, and after he completed his MSE. This is all in the span of about 2 years, of course he fucked up his mouth and now he's having buyer's remorse because his teeth look worse than before he spent all this time and money. Now he's getting tunnel grafts & possibly just replacing all his teeth. The dude only has 12 teeth in his upper jaw due to unnecessary extractions out of the 16 you're supposed to have. But no, obviously AGGA is to blame :lul:
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Pic related is Ronny shortly after AGGA, then immediately after MSE. MSE is much better for laterally expanding the cheekbones, which we can all agree fatally descended Ron's 3/4 profile.

Instead of jumping to conclusions after getting just one opinion from some aspie with a YouTube channel, perhaps try reading up on many peer-reviewed scientific journals. I will append my related collection later.

I should reiterate that NO procedure is the right choice for every scenario. MSE has cases where it works better than AGGA, and vice versa. Both perform vastly better than jaw surgery. MSE does better at lateral expansion, AGGA does better at anterior and vertical expansion.

My issues are a vertically recessed maxilla, overjet, class III maloccusion, in which slightly elongating the face would provide a much better visual appearance. I already have wide cheekbones that appear flat due to poor anterior development, so MSE would not be ideal.
Oh, and essentially the only practical use for jaw surgery in 2020 is for people with horse mouth (excessive gums).
can you really call it addiction? it's not like he's expanding to 64mm or facepulling to concave profile. and I don't think his insight is worthless, having done at least a hundred videos on oral procedures
 
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Improving Tongue Posture
Many people have poor tongue posture in their sleep due to a deviated septum.
I've been like that forever. My sisters too. We don't have any kind of recession (maxilla,chin)
This is cope i guess.
 
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Restoring Facial Bones to Natty Limit
What if that "natty limit" still leaves you unaesthetic?

My problem with all of those "grow your bones at home" solutions is that you have absolutely no way to precisely predict (and control for deviations) the final results and as we know at the end it all boils down to mm's of bone.

That's why, imo, the best course of action is to fix any skeletal issues (if present) with osteotomies and then add the final strokes of aesthetics via implants.
 

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