Became Better Looking - Now I FAIL On Dating Apps

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Till few months ago, once I matched with a women on tinder/other app -
it was fairly easy to get their phone number after 3-4 messages, and
set a date later on. 50%+ of kissing or more on first date.

Did a short break from all of these apps for few months. Now I'm back,
with even better photos. I can't get any phone numbers after a match !

The absurd part is - I became better looking (matured and lost
weight). I get choosing signals (IOI) in real life now as well. I am
not PSL7, but dated a lot of attractive women with no problem.


IOI example for retards - today at the store, some older women called
me cute while I talked to them.

What is going on?
 
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Till few months ago, once I matched with a women on tinder/other app -
it was fairly easy to get their phone number after 3-4 messages, and
set a date later on. 50%+ of kissing or more on first date.

Did a short break from all of these apps for few months. Now I'm back,
with even better photos. I can't get any phone numbers after a match !

And the absurd part is - I became better looking (matured and lost
weight). I get choosing signals (IOI) in real life now as well. I am
not model tier, but dated a lot of women who were very attracted.

What is going on?

Maybe you just got uglier.

Have you shaved your beard / groomsmaxed?
 
He fell for the meme guys. Attraction is cope. The blackpill is a myth
 
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Maybe you just got uglier.

Have you shaved your beard / groomsmaxed?
As I mentioned - I became better looking. Face matured (early 20's)
and I lost weight. I have wide face and strong bones. I now get choosing
signals IRL.
 
things that never happened
 
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As I mentioned - I became better looking. Face matured (early 20's)
and I lost weight. I have wide face and strong bones. I now get choosing
signals IRL.

Ok sir.

You might have lost JB appeal.

What do you look like?
 
I think this is part of it. I am not looking 20 anymore.

Did the collagen reaper knock? Maybe the Norwood? Is there something you aren't telling us
 
you're not goodlooking theres your answer
 
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You got older and therefore lost JB appeal.

You need to anti-agemax.
 
Did the collagen reaper knock? Maybe the Norwood? Is there something you aren't telling us
The Norwood reaper didn't knock. I am NW1. Collagen wise - I still look
young, but I matured - I don't look like a 20 year old anymore , but my actual age.
 
I dated over 20 women, all of them good looking.

"Over 20 Woman"

That's kinda low. Like a 16 YO highschool slayer has more dates than you.

"All of them good looking"

Subjective
 
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"Over 20 Woman"

That's kinda low. Like a 16 YO highschool slayer has more dates than you.

"All of them good looking"

Subjective

90% of men my age didn't date as many women as I did.
My friends sturggle to get 1 date with 1 women.
16 Y/O highschool slayer with that count is top 0.5%
 
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Without before and after pics, I can't provide any advice.
 
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"Over 20 Woman"

That's kinda low. Like a 16 YO highschool slayer has more dates than you.

"All of them good looking"

Subjective
only 16 year olds that have N count above 20 are literal chads with 6’2+ height, top tier frame, status and 6 psl+.
 
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I dated over 20 women, all of them good looking.
doesnt matter, if youre failing on dating apps and cant get a single number you're not attractive enough
 
What people don't realize is that foids are nuts. Now that they can fuck Chads after a few swipes on Tinder, it doesn't interest them anymore. You gotta run 5'6-balding-ethnic game. Works for me.
 
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What people don't realize is that foids are nuts. Now that they can fuck Chads after a few swipes on Tinder, it doesn't interest them anymore. You gotta run 5'6-balding-ethnic game. Works for me.
Brutal. What can I do now?? I am 6 foot, how can I become 5'6??
help
 
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So how did you improve your looks? How good looking were you before and how good looking now?
 
What do you look like?
 
dont take dating apps too serious, its just another way for women to feed their need for attention

move on
 
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What do you look like?
Something that we'll never see bc it never began
dont take dating apps too serious, its just another way for women to feed their need for attention

move on
absolutely true, i mean, less than 10/100 of whole women are in it, and the "worst" ones. Don't mean a lot about whole women.
 
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So how did you improve your looks? How good looking were you before and how good looking now?
guys here don't understand that face doesn't stop changing at 20. You can improve
up to 24-25 in my opinion.
In addition - I lost a lot of weight, grew stubble. And I have strong bones.
 
Duh Huh I dont know why

Dont show FACE Duh Huh
 
Something that we'll never see bc it never began

absolutely true, i mean, less than 10/100 of whole women are in it, and the "worst" ones. Don't mean a lot about whole women.
I agree, the quality of women online is lower than real life average.
 
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guys here don't understand that face doesn't stop changing at 20. You can improve
up to 24-25 in my opinion.
In addition - I lost a lot of weight, grew stubble. And I have strong bones.
srs?
I agree, the quality of women online is lower than real life average.
Anyway, above 25yo, the SMV is reversing : It's men that are in power.
 
srs?

Anyway, above 25yo, the SMV is reversing : It's men that are in power.
After 25yo, you can enjoy the leftovers , the women chad fucked
on the first date, and now won't fuck you till the 10th.
 
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Now I'm back,
with even better photos

B6c
 
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After 25yo, you can enjoy the leftovers , the women chad fucked
on the first date, and now won't fuck you till the 10th.
Yeah but what to do ?
You gonna marry a 18yo girl ?
Useless move.
You have to deal with the oldest ones that's it because ppl don't get married or have kids before past 25 yo.

Unless you go oversea, find a young, GL, virgin girl that mog the shit of these chad cumster that are now ugly.
 
maybe you are getting grey hairs or something
 
"Over 20 Woman"

That's kinda low. Like a 16 YO highschool slayer has more dates than you.

"All of them good looking"

Subjective
20 women is not low considering many people on this forum haven't even dated 1.
 
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guys here don't understand that face doesn't stop changing at 20. You can improve
up to 24-25 in my opinion.
In addition - I lost a lot of weight, grew stubble. And I have strong bones.
How did u make bones stronger. Ik what I need to do to looksmax is gain weight cuz I'm skinny and grow beard to hide narrow lower third but how do I change bones?
 
How did u make bones stronger. Ik what I need to do to looksmax is gain weight cuz I'm skinny and grow beard to hide narrow lower third but how do I change bones?
How to make bones stronger? choose parents with good
facial bones.
 
How to make bones stronger? choose parents with good
facial bones.
So gaining weight and growing stubble was good enough 4 u? Did u do anything else?
 
guys here don't understand that face doesn't stop changing at 20. You can improve
up to 24-25 in my opinion.
In addition - I lost a lot of weight, grew stubble. And I have strong bones.

you can improve to 24-25? Will posturemaxxing and mewing make a difference till that age in your opinion?
 
only 16 year olds that have N count above 20 are literal chads with 6’2+ height, top tier frame, status and 6 psl+.

Theres a couple of those in every highschool in america.
 
Till few months ago, once I matched with a women on tinder/other app -
it was fairly easy to get their phone number after 3-4 messages, and
set a date later on. 50%+ of kissing or more on first date.

Did a short break from all of these apps for few months. Now I'm back,
with even better photos. I can't get any phone numbers after a match !

The absurd part is - I became better looking (matured and lost
weight). I get choosing signals (IOI) in real life now as well. I am
not PSL7, but dated a lot of attractive women with no problem.


IOI example for retards - today at the store, some older women called
me cute while I talked to them.

What is going on?
retest with old photo's. To see for sure if the new pictures are the cause.

After or besides that. Vould chatup wmen in "real" life.
 
retest with old photo's. To see for sure if the new pictures are the cause.

After or besides that. Vould chatup wmen in "real" life.

My goal is to reach 12% finally (went from 30%+ to ~18%), and
to meet women only in "real life" and not online.
You are more than 10 years older than me, what is your experience
with women you met online vs. in "real life"? Better success rate?
what are the difference in attitude you noticed?
I would appreciate it if you can elaborate.
 
My goal is to reach 12% finally (went from 30%+ to ~18%), and
to meet women only in "real life" and not online.
You are more than 10 years older than me, what is your experience
with women you met online vs. in "real life"? Better success rate?
what are the difference in attitude you noticed?
I would appreciate it if you can elaborate.
I have never done online or App dating. So I dunno about that one.
I only know cahtting up women in daily life. I was pua in my 20's. I managed to lay about 1% of all the women I chatted up. I must have cahtted up over 500 women. LOL, brutal rejection rate. :LOL::ROFLMAO:
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I have never done online or App dating. So I dunno about that one.
I only know cahtting up women in daily life. I was pua in my 20's. I managed to lay about 1% of all the women I chatted up. I must have cahtted up over 500 women. LOL, brutal rejection rate. :LOL::ROFLMAO:
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I read your threads, you don't do online dating now at all? Only meat them in real life? This is what i am aiming for. Any tips? (I did read your thread about dating in 30s vs 20s)

You are made of steel. If i had 99% rejection rate - i would never chatup women again.
 
Are you using selfies or overly structured photos, cuz I get rejected more when I use those. Try candid shots with friends or somewhere nice. Remember, everything matters, foids will reject you if they think you don't go out and socialize enough to get a candid shot.
 
I read your threads, you don't do online dating now at all? Only meat them in real life? This is what i am aiming for. Any tips? (I did read your thread about dating in 30s vs 20s)

You are made of steel. If i had 99% rejection rate - i would never chatup women again.
Yep, I do and have never done online dating. Back in 2007 when I was young, online dating was a loser thing to do.

I haven't really chatted up women since 2011. When I entered a LTR which lasted plenty years. After that ended (2016); I went on a Budhist religuous fanatic/ethoustiast pahse/route of self imposed celebacy as part of the practise. Which lasted untill last summer. Then I decided to stop that; because enlightenment is an unattainbale concept, a vague concept, and an unmeasurable concept. I decided to first focus untill comming summer on getting myself back into a good position, into better shape, moneymaxx a bit, etc.. (because of religuous practised I gave up alot and gave away alot: aka donating money, minimalism in housing and all stuff, not focussing much on own fitness and appearance, etc.. Now I'm super busy with work untill start summer for moneymaxxing. Last month I tried chatting up a few randoms, I was obviously rusty as hell.
I do get some attention now, from the events and social activities I go to, from some women. But they are not the type I want/like; age, looks level and baggage wise. I'll keep focussing untill the comming summer to moneymaxx and looks improve. Then I'll go chatting up randoms again, and maybe try online dating. But I firstly don't wanna do online dating, might be cop-out to not chat up randoms.
 
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Yep, I do and have never done online dating. Back in 2007 when I was young, online dating was a loser thing to do.

I haven't really chatted up women since 2011. When I entered a LTR which lasted plenty years. After that ended (2016); I went on a Budhist religuous fanatic/ethoustiast pahse/route of self imposed celebacy as part of the practise. Which lasted untill last summer. Then I decided to stop that; because enlightenment is an unattainbale concept, a vague concept, and an unmeasurable concept. I decided to first focus untill comming summer on getting myself back into a good position, into better shape, moneymaxx a bit, etc.. (because of religuous practised I gave up alot and gave away alot: aka donating money, minimalism in housing and all stuff, not focussing much on own fitness and appearance, etc.. Now I'm super busy with work untill start summer for moneymaxxing. Last month I tried chatting up a few randoms, I was obviously rusty as hell.
I do get some attention now, from the events and social activities I go to, from some women. But they are not the type I want/like; age, looks level and baggage wise. I'll keep focussing untill the comming summer to moneymaxx and looks improve. Then I'll go chatting up randoms again, and maybe try online dating. But I firstly don't wanna do online dating, might be cop-out to not chat up randoms.
Interesting. But I don't think that chatting up randoms, aka - cold approach, is the right thing to do. A high value men doesn't do that, he acts upon choosing signals. Even if you looksmax hard, you still get 90% rejection rate. Why participate in a game you can't win ? Participate in games you have the upper hand to begin with. I will never cold approach because I prefer to have self reapect. If a women wants me, she will let me know - looks, chatting etc.

You are getting choosinf signals from women you don't like, i think if you improve looks 1.5PSL, you will start getting signals from more attractive women
 
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