Effect of PCT on Heightmaxxing

[Deleted member 439]

Just wanted to share this, as this has stopped me from doing steroids right now.
Remember Face>Height>>>Body, 2inches gained on your bicep will never compensate for stunted height.


Nolvadex
Estrogen receptor blockade resulted in a significant (P < 0.05) diminution in mean 24-h serum GH concentrations, from 3.9 +/- 1.0 (placebo; mean +/- SEM) to 2.7 +/- 0.6 micrograms/L (tamoxifen). This was associated with a significant (P < 0.01) decline in the GH production rate [237 +/- 55 vs. 155 +/- 33 micrograms/L GH distribution volume (Lv).24 h]. Furthermore, this reduction in GH secretion was the result of significant decreases in both the maximal GH secretory rate (0.46 +/- 0.08 vs. 0.34 +/- 0.06 microgram/Lv.min; P < 0.01) and, to a smaller degree, GH secretory burst number (16 +/- 1 vs. 14 +/- 1/24 h; P < 0.05). There was also a trend toward reduced mass of GH secreted per burst (13.3 +/- 2.5 vs. 10.3 +/- 2.0 micrograms/Lv; P = 0.06).

Estrogen receptor blockade with tamoxifen diminishes growth hormone secretion in boys: evidence for a stimulatory role of endogenous estrogens during male adolescence - PubMed

The increase in GH production during the male adolescent growth spurt has been attributed to both androgen and estrogen receptor-mediated processes. To evaluate the role of endogenous estrogens in the control of GH secretion, we administered the estrogen receptor antagonist tamoxifen to 10 late...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Sci-Hub | Direct effects of tamoxifen on growth hormone secretion by pituitary cells in vitro. European Journal of Cancer, 28(4-5), 788–793 | 10.1016/0959-8049(92)90116-j

Enclomiphene citrate

Even cortisol increased* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4155868/

Clomid was also used as a potential treatment for acromegalic patients
Three months after CC introduction, serum IGF-1 levels decreased in all patients and reached normal values in 2 patients (25%). Noteworthy, IGF-1 normalization occurred in two of the three patients (66.7%) https://www.endocrine-abstracts.org/ea/0063/ea0063p1113

 

[ChaddeusPeuterschmit]

Read every single word. Great thread OP, thanks!

 

[Mr.cope]

Wym PCT

 

[Deleted member 439]

Read every single word. Great thread OP, thanks!

Thank you. Honestly there is a lot more information and studies on this. I compiled some better studies yesterday, but this is enough to convince me so I didnt research much further.

 

[Deleted member 2632]

I took steroids at 19 but I never did Post Cycle Therapy, lucky me I got amazing jaw development without the stunted GH growth

 

[DoWhatYouCan]

pct is only 4 weeks, reduced gh for a month wont affect height if you havent grown in the past year.

 

[Deleted member 439]

pct is only 4 weeks, reduced gh for a month wont affect height if you havent grown in the past year.

I was reseaching for Sarm cycle + Serm cycle, meaning I would run this for almost 16weeks. not worth it imo

 

[buflek]

i have positive canthal tilt and still ended up as 5‘9.5

cope

 

[reptiles]

Just wanted to share this, as this has stopped me from doing steroids right now.
Remember Face>Height>>>Body, 2inches gained on your bicep will never compensate for stunted height.


Nolvadex
Estrogen receptor blockade resulted in a significant (P < 0.05) diminution in mean 24-h serum GH concentrations, from 3.9 +/- 1.0 (placebo; mean +/- SEM) to 2.7 +/- 0.6 micrograms/L (tamoxifen). This was associated with a significant (P < 0.01) decline in the GH production rate [237 +/- 55 vs. 155 +/- 33 micrograms/L GH distribution volume (Lv).24 h]. Furthermore, this reduction in GH secretion was the result of significant decreases in both the maximal GH secretory rate (0.46 +/- 0.08 vs. 0.34 +/- 0.06 microgram/Lv.min; P < 0.01) and, to a smaller degree, GH secretory burst number (16 +/- 1 vs. 14 +/- 1/24 h; P < 0.05). There was also a trend toward reduced mass of GH secreted per burst (13.3 +/- 2.5 vs. 10.3 +/- 2.0 micrograms/Lv; P = 0.06).

Estrogen receptor blockade with tamoxifen diminishes growth hormone secretion in boys: evidence for a stimulatory role of endogenous estrogens during male adolescence - PubMed

The increase in GH production during the male adolescent growth spurt has been attributed to both androgen and estrogen receptor-mediated processes. To evaluate the role of endogenous estrogens in the control of GH secretion, we administered the estrogen receptor antagonist tamoxifen to 10 late...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

View attachment 293570

Sci-Hub | Direct effects of tamoxifen on growth hormone secretion by pituitary cells in vitro. European Journal of Cancer, 28(4-5), 788–793 | 10.1016/0959-8049(92)90116-j

Enclomiphene citrate
View attachment 293569
Even cortisol increased* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4155868/

Clomid was also used as a potential treatment for acromegalic patients
Three months after CC introduction, serum IGF-1 levels decreased in all patients and reached normal values in 2 patients (25%). Noteworthy, IGF-1 normalization occurred in two of the three patients (66.7%) https://www.endocrine-abstracts.org/ea/0063/ea0063p1113

Good to see you back man.

 

[Usum]

Taking roids is for retards in the first place.

 

[turkproducer]

wait so AI drops GH secretion?

 

[Deleted member 4675]

i have positive canthal tilt and still ended up as 5‘9.5

cope

post cycle therapy u retard cant tell if joke

 

[buflek]

post cycle therapy u retard cant tell if joke

are u stupid?

 

[Deleted member 4675]

are u stupid?

yes

 

[Chintuck22]

Just wanted to share this, as this has stopped me from doing steroids right now.
Remember Face>Height>>>Body, 2inches gained on your bicep will never compensate for stunted height.


Nolvadex
Estrogen receptor blockade resulted in a significant (P < 0.05) diminution in mean 24-h serum GH concentrations, from 3.9 +/- 1.0 (placebo; mean +/- SEM) to 2.7 +/- 0.6 micrograms/L (tamoxifen). This was associated with a significant (P < 0.01) decline in the GH production rate [237 +/- 55 vs. 155 +/- 33 micrograms/L GH distribution volume (Lv).24 h]. Furthermore, this reduction in GH secretion was the result of significant decreases in both the maximal GH secretory rate (0.46 +/- 0.08 vs. 0.34 +/- 0.06 microgram/Lv.min; P < 0.01) and, to a smaller degree, GH secretory burst number (16 +/- 1 vs. 14 +/- 1/24 h; P < 0.05). There was also a trend toward reduced mass of GH secreted per burst (13.3 +/- 2.5 vs. 10.3 +/- 2.0 micrograms/Lv; P = 0.06).

Estrogen receptor blockade with tamoxifen diminishes growth hormone secretion in boys: evidence for a stimulatory role of endogenous estrogens during male adolescence - PubMed

The increase in GH production during the male adolescent growth spurt has been attributed to both androgen and estrogen receptor-mediated processes. To evaluate the role of endogenous estrogens in the control of GH secretion, we administered the estrogen receptor antagonist tamoxifen to 10 late...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

View attachment 293570

Sci-Hub | Direct effects of tamoxifen on growth hormone secretion by pituitary cells in vitro. European Journal of Cancer, 28(4-5), 788–793 | 10.1016/0959-8049(92)90116-j

Enclomiphene citrate
View attachment 293569
Even cortisol increased* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4155868/

Clomid was also used as a potential treatment for acromegalic patients
Three months after CC introduction, serum IGF-1 levels decreased in all patients and reached normal values in 2 patients (25%). Noteworthy, IGF-1 normalization occurred in two of the three patients (66.7%) https://www.endocrine-abstracts.org/ea/0063/ea0063p1113

Best poster came back, your collagenmaxing thread helped me by a lot man !

 

[Deleted member 439]

Good to see you back man.

Best poster came back, your collagenmaxing thread helped me by a lot man !

Thanks for the love guys

 

[xefo]

Is this permenant or only while on the PCT?