FACEPULLERS GTFIH DOWDEN HAS THE SAME EFFECTS AS BONE ANCHORED PULLING

[sloopnoob]

I had been feeling something in my zygos and nose area, asked @retard about it he said he doesn't feel anything.
I looked it up and,
There is another study/lecture where I learned that the primary point of resistance against forward maxillary movement is the zygomatic buttress. This is where you get the "I feel it in my cheekbones" resistance when you really get the posture and force down correctly. You might feel it alternatively on the outside of your cheekbones or on the interior near the nose.

This resistance point is also the rotational hinge point in growth. If you push the maxilla directly against it, it grows forward. If you push from underneath, you have counterclockwise rotation, and vice-versa. This is from maxillary protraction facemask studies (bone anchored).

 

[diggbicc]

can you elab more? with diagrams or pics preferably

 

[sloopnoob]

can you elab more? with diagrams or pics preferably

I've been feeling pressure in these areas.

 

[Melo95]

So when mewing, I felt pressure in my cheekbones before. Does that mean I did it properly?

 

[sloopnoob]

So when mewing, I felt pressure in my cheekbones before. Does that mean I did it properly?

yes

 

[retard]

I feel pressure in similar areas if I keep the forehead piece on, if I lift it up though it the pressure dissipates which makes me believe it’s not from the maxilla tension on the sutures but just the backwards force on the forehead, try FPing and use your hand to hold up the forehead piece and see if you still feel pressure there, also what forces are you using?

 

[Chadelite]

when i hard mew my face feels tight like my bones are getting pushed - maybe placebo

 

[goat2x]

post it
its cope tbh
@Sergio-OMS said it wouldnt work and he is an actual surgeon not an aspie scientist

 

[sloopnoob]

I feel pressure in similar areas if I keep the forehead piece on, if I lift it up though it the pressure dissipates which makes me believe it’s not from the maxilla tension on the sutures but just the backwards force on the forehead, try FPing and use your hand to hold up the forehead piece and see if you still feel pressure there, also what forces are you using?

I couldn't get things before the quarantine started to finish the puller, so I made another intra oral appliance without nails so I could thumbpull with it and keep it my mouth when asleep, the tongue pushes it even when not pulling, so it's not that headgear that's doing it

 

[retard]

post it
its cope tbh
@Sergio-OMS said it wouldnt work and he is an actual surgeon not an aspie scientist

there are very few studies on adult fping yet all the ones on it says it’s legit

 

[sloopnoob]

@Sergio-OMS said it wouldnt work

has he actually tried it on someone? i don't think so, it's his speculation it won't work and it's our speculation that it will.

 

[goat2x]

there are very few studies on adult fping yet all the ones on it says it’s legit

with anchored yes
but not with an autist dowden trash

 

[retard]

I couldn't get things before the quarantine started to finish the puller, so I made another intra oral appliance without nails so I could thumbpull with it and keep it my mouth when asleep, the tongue pushes it even when not pulling, so it's not that headgear that's doing it

How hard are you pulling? When I use my thumbs to pull as hard as I can I can def feel pressure there, that’s like 10x the force of my puller though

 

[goat2x]

has he actually tried it on someone? i don't think so, it's his speculation it won't work and it's our speculation that it will.

i would rather beleive in a surgeons speculation than urs
sorry bro jfl

 

[sloopnoob]

How hard are you pulling? When I use my thumbs to pull as hard as I can I can def feel pressure there, that’s like 10x the force of my puller though

as hard as I can untill my thumbs start hurting then take 10mins brake while pushing it with tongue and repeat it all over

sorry bro jfl

Don't be sorry I'm not forcing you to do it or trying to make you think otherwise this post was for people already facepulling it shouldn't bother you

 

[goat2x]

as hard as I can untill my thumbs start hurting then take 10mins brake while pushing it with tongue and repeat it all over

Don't be sorry I'm not forcing you to do it or trying to make you think otherwise this post was for people already facepulling it shouldn't bother you

ye
bet you should provide the studies atleast if u state something

 

[retard]

as hard as I can untill my thumbs start hurting then take 10mins brake while pushing it with tongue and repeat it all over

That makes sense, I was pretty certain I felt pressure on my sutures when I giga thumbpull but wasn’t for sure, this gives me more confidence that it’s not placebo which is a good sign that it’s applying a decent amount of pressure, I would assume there are very few nerves at the sutures so to be able to feel pressure there is a good sign change may occur

I do 2 reps of 20 seconds every few hours

 

[sloopnoob]

I do 2 reps of 20 seconds every few hours

I just sit back put on some anime and keep doing it all day until shops open up and i can make the copeandrope's puller

 

[Deleted member 5187]

That makes sense, I was pretty certain I felt pressure on my sutures when I giga thumbpull but wasn’t for sure, this gives me more confidence that it’s not placebo which is a good sign that it’s applying a decent amount of pressure, I would assume there are very few nerves at the sutures so to be able to feel pressure there is a good sign change may occur

I do 2 reps of 20 seconds every few hours

I just sit back put on some anime and keep doing it all day until shops open up and i can make the copeandrope's puller

How expensive was this all in all?

 

[retard]

How expensive was this all in all?

Around 450

 

[sloopnoob]

How expensive was this all in all?

For me pretty cheap I bought everything offline and it's pretty cheap in India so around 30usd

 

[Deleted member 5187]

For me pretty cheap I bought everything offline and it's pretty cheap in India so around 30usd

Fuck man that's cheap
Good luck bro

Around 450

That's not that cheap
Good luck with the pulling

 

[sloopnoob]

@Notuglyjustpoor but I wasted alot of time going around trying to get a lab to make one for me. Went to alot of dentists and even dental colleges, tried to bribe students. Then the students told me where to buy stuff, luckily the market was close to my home but that college wasn't it was in another state. Went back home and left for the market, the whole market has dental supplies shops so if you try a bit you're sure to have success

 

[retard]

For me pretty cheap I bought everything offline and it's pretty cheap in India so around 30usd

What are you going to use to anchor the puller, lorss said the neck brace design screwed up his neck

 

[sloopnoob]

What are you going to use to anchor the puller, lorss said the neck brace design screwed up his neck

idk it'd be hard to get the bow in India, and I don't want to use something that pushes the forward and chin back so idc about fucking up my neck. perhaps I'll use the softer neck braces and not plastic ones

 

[Deleted member 5187]

@Notuglyjustpoor but I wasted alot of time going around trying to get a lab to make one for me. Went to alot of dentists and even dental colleges, tried to bribe students. Then the students told me where to buy stuff, luckily the market was close to my home but that college wasn't it was in another state. Went back home and left for the market, the whole market has dental supplies shops so if you try a bit you're sure to have success

Love the dedication ngl

 

[Deleted member 685]

Any Aesthetic differences?

 

[sloopnoob]

Any Aesthetic differences?

not yet It's just been a week since I started doing it seriously

 

[YoungRichNigga]

i heard facepulling could fuk up ur face. are u sure its safe and legit and not cope

 

[sloopnoob]

i heard facepulling could fuk up ur face.

it cannot make you worse jfl, if it's cope or not that'd be decided by results

 

[YoungRichNigga]

it cannot make you worse jfl, if it's cope or not that'd be decided by results

how old are u rn since ur hoping for results?

 

[sloopnoob]

how old are u rn since ur hoping for results?

turned 20 recently

 

[YoungRichNigga]

turned 20 recently

good luck with this and keep us updated.

 

[Chintuck22]

**Just a quick reminder stopping by if this was true**

basically girl have gained 1.5mm using bone anchored thing for 4 months, just trust me i am lazy to find the study, @Fuk, can confirm this

- 1.5mm advancement from 4 months with 0.5kg
1 year = 4.5 mm
2 years = 9mm
3 years = 13.5 mm
4 years = 18mm
5 years = 22.5 mm
6 years = 27mm

- 6mm advancement from 4 months with 2kg (Nelson dowden appliance)
1 year = 18mm
2 years = 36mm
3 years = 54mm
4 years = 72mm
5 years = 90mm
6 years = 108mm

So imagine in 6 years like how much you would ascend with facepulling

 

[Deleted member 5187]

**Just a quick reminder stopping by if this was true**

basically girl have gained 1.5mm using bone anchored thing for 4 months, just trust me i am lazy to find the study, @Fuk, can confirm this

- 1.5mm advancement from 4 months with 0.5kg
1 year = 4.5 mm
2 years = 9mm
3 years = 13.5 mm
4 years = 18mm
5 years = 22.5 mm
6 years = 27mm

- 6mm advancement from 4 months with 2kg (Nelson dowden appliance)
1 year = 18mm
2 years = 36mm
3 years = 54mm
4 years = 72mm
5 years = 90mm
6 years = 108mm

So imagine in 6 years like how much you would ascend with facepulling

This will eventually meet the rule of diminishing returns
Not to undermine the statement
But no one is getting nearly 11cm/5 inches of change

 

[goat2x]

**Just a quick reminder stopping by if this was true**

basically girl have gained 1.5mm using bone anchored thing for 4 months, just trust me i am lazy to find the study, @Fuk, can confirm this

- 1.5mm advancement from 4 months with 0.5kg
1 year = 4.5 mm
2 years = 9mm
3 years = 13.5 mm
4 years = 18mm
5 years = 22.5 mm
6 years = 27mm

- 6mm advancement from 4 months with 2kg (Nelson dowden appliance)
1 year = 18mm
2 years = 36mm
3 years = 54mm
4 years = 72mm
5 years = 90mm
6 years = 108mm

So imagine in 6 years like how much you would ascend with facepulling

"
- 6mm advancement from 4 months with 2kg (Nelson dowden appliance)
1 year = 18mm
2 years = 36mm
3 years = 54mm
4 years = 72mm
5 years = 90mm
6 years = 108mm"
this definetly aint true lol

 

[Chintuck22]

This will eventually meet the rule of diminishing returns
Not to undermine the statement
But no one is getting nearly 11cm/5 inches of change

I mean imagine if you get atleast 18mm of results, that alone would be more than awesome, no matter if it takes 6 years

"
- 6mm advancement from 4 months with 2kg (Nelson dowden appliance)
1 year = 18mm
2 years = 36mm
3 years = 54mm
4 years = 72mm
5 years = 90mm
6 years = 108mm"
this definetly aint true lol

just like i said trust me with study thing or don't reply to me like an idiot, if you dont believe this shit, lurk more and find the post where he stated it, you fucking greycel

 

[Deleted member 5187]

I mean imagine if you get atleast 18mm of results, that alone would be more than awesome, no matter if it takes 6 years

That would be major
18mm is a lot in face

 

[goat2x]

I mean imagine if you get atleast 18mm of results, that alone would be more than awesome, no matter if it takes 6 years

just like i said trust me with study thing or don't reply to me like an idiot, if you dont believe this shit, lurk more and find the post where he stated it, you fucking greycel

i read it you fucking single digit iq retard lmao at you braindead faggot
it was mse+facepull not dowden
and definetly not 11

https://looksmax.org/threads/face-pulling-before-after-radiograph.121738/#post-2057163

here is the thread u utterly retarded faggot
u cant even read u are so low iq
slit ur wrist fucking subhuman autist

 

[Chintuck22]

i read it you fucking single digit iq retard lmao at you braindead faggot
it was mse+facepull not dowden
and definetly not 11

https://looksmax.org/threads/face-pulling-before-after-radiograph.121738/#post-2057163

here is the thread u utterly retarded faggot
u cant even read u are so low iq
slit ur wrist fucking subhuman autist

Jk faggot

Suck my 20 cm dick lololol You are shit, i mog you iq-wise HAha , how can you coopeee, loser, loser

 

[goat2x]

Jk faggot

Suck my 20 cm dick lololol You are shit, i mog you iq-wise HAha , how can you coopeee, loser, loser

Lmao
You are talkin out of ur ass single digit iq faggot
I knew that u cant read lmao
You are coping with dowden jfl what a fucking retard
An asperger maxxed faggot made it without any knowledge u utterly retarded subhuman
You are pathetic bipolar maxed looser
U got busted for having single digit iq and now you try to play it cool
What a worthless looser

 

[Deleted member 3962]

get xrays done now and in 6 months

 

[Chadelite]

**Just a quick reminder stopping by if this was true**

basically girl have gained 1.5mm using bone anchored thing for 4 months, just trust me i am lazy to find the study, @Fuk, can confirm this

- 1.5mm advancement from 4 months with 0.5kg
1 year = 4.5 mm
2 years = 9mm
3 years = 13.5 mm
4 years = 18mm
5 years = 22.5 mm
6 years = 27mm

- 6mm advancement from 4 months with 2kg (Nelson dowden appliance)
1 year = 18mm
2 years = 36mm
3 years = 54mm
4 years = 72mm
5 years = 90mm
6 years = 108mm

So imagine in 6 years like how much you would ascend with facepulling

100 years

 

[sloopnoob]

get xrays done now and in 6 months

i can't due to the quarantine

 

[Deleted member 3043]

good thread

 

[Chintuck22]

100 years

100 years = one meeks

 

[Maxim]

I've been feeling pressure in these areas.

i sometimes, only rarely, feel it in my cheekbones when i push with the tip of my tongue
i heard this is the wrong way though?

 

[Mr.cope]

Thread full of cope
No studies stated either

 

[Chadelite]

I've been feeling pressure in these areas.

@sloopnoob how is the facepuller bro update real quick

 

[sloopnoob]

@sloopnoob how is the facepuller bro update real quick

havent had time to do it much because I was busy moneymaxxing but in the little time i did, i got better ogee curve and cheekbones, that was my main goal since im not recessed just need more midface fullness. I didn't however get better under eye support so I'm back on it to get that and I was noticing some relapse.