Facepulling appliance update

[SoyGune]

My last one was okay but I didn’t realize that it can be done better and apply greater force it i just reinvented the wheel; the copeandrope appliance.

This one keeps the original design, but eliminates the painful acrylic swoosh that irritated my gums and made the appliance from an engineering standpoint weak.

It’s just using some 12 gauge steel wire that has been shaped to fit in the palate and provide a more comfortable and practical appliance. This appliance does not interfere with the teeth and puts all the pressure on the palate. I put it in and I feel the irritation from the previous appliance, but better.

 

[Bromose]

Show results or cope

 

[SoyGune]

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Maxillary protraction

 

[facepuller]

Great work! I recommend using dental silicon to create a soft interface between the intra-oral appliance and your palate. It makes wearing the appliance much more comfortable

 

[s3-s3]

Grey cells are the best thing in this forum tbh ngl

 

[Luke LLL]

You know what man this is actually a pretty damn good idea. This might actually work if you gave the molars a little more space by making the bend in the wire further back, so that you avoid any contact made with the teeth. Good job. I think that it would get uncomfortable wearing for long periods of time though.

 

[000]

You know what man this is actually a pretty damn good idea. This might actually work if you gave the molars a little more space by making the bend in the wire further back, so that you avoid any contact made with the teeth. Good job. I think that it would get uncomfortable wearing for long periods of time though.

I’ll just use this one, it looks like nothing else can be improved on it other than the things you mentioned above. Do you think I should use dental silicone? Also don’t you think that when you add lots of force to these metal pieces, the force would pull them into the molars?

 

[SoyGune]

I’ll just use this one, it looks like nothing else can be improved on it other than the things you mentioned above. Do you think I should use dental silicone? Also don’t you think that when you add lots of force to these metal pieces, the force would pull them into the molars?

Depends on how much force you put. You’ll need like 20 elastic bands to bend wire this thick.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

You know what man this is actually a pretty damn good idea. This might actually work if you gave the molars a little more space by making the bend in the wire further back, so that you avoid any contact made with the teeth. Good job. I think that it would get uncomfortable wearing for long periods of time though.

Bruh I sent u my own idea like this and u said it looked unstable. This is what I sent ages ago lmao

 

[000]

Bruh I sent u my own idea like this and u said it looked unstable. This is what I sent ages ago lmao
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Kek. Also question: I want to use the most comfortable material possible. How do I make dental silicone instead of acrylic?

 

[000]

Depends on how much force you put. You’ll need like 20 elastic bands to bend wire this thick.

If I attach this to my Forwardontics BOW, each band would be 250 g right?

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Kek. Also question: I want to use the most comfortable material possible. How do I make dental silicone instead of acrylic?

You add silicone on top of the acrylic if u want more comfort. I dont rlly know much about this tho

 

[Luke LLL]

I’ll just use this one, it looks like nothing else can be improved on it other than the things you mentioned above. Do you think I should use dental silicone? Also don’t you think that when you add lots of force to these metal pieces, the force would pull them into the molars?

This isn’t gonna work but it’s a good idea.

 

[Luke LLL]

Bruh I sent u my own idea like this and u said it looked unstable. This is what I sent ages ago lmao
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That was unclear af I thought the teeth you drew were metal wires that go in between the teeth

 

[Patient A]

Great work! I recommend using dental silicon to create a soft interface between the intra-oral appliance and your palate. It makes wearing the appliance much more comfortable

Well yes that is what copeandrope recommended.

rip @CopeAndRope

 

[Patient A]

Kek. Also question: I want to use the most comfortable material possible. How do I make dental silicone instead of acrylic?

Molloplast is a nice soft material that goes on top of the acrylic

but I doubt you will ever do anything tbh

 

[000]

This isn’t gonna work but it’s a good idea.

I thought you said in this thread it seemed amazing? What are the downsides of this?

 

[Luke LLL]

I thought you said in this thread it seemed amazing? What are the downsides of this?

It’s an amazing idea but the one he posted is flawed, I could make it over and make it way better.

 

[000]

It’s an amazing idea but the one he posted is flawed, I could make it over and make it way better.

In what ways can it improve? It seems perfect or me minus the acrylic (I think he used that).

 

[Luke LLL]

In what ways can it improve? It seems perfect or me minus the acrylic (I think he used that).

Bro you don’t even know what you’re doing

 

[000]

Bro you don’t even know what you’re doing

Why do you say that man..I am dedicated to put in the time to learn how to make one of these. I will gather all of the supplies and not screw it up. When I’m done with it I’ll have some skilled people like you tell me how it looks.

 

[BradAniston]

Ask your dentist or orthodontist before doing that.I mean seriously

 

[optimisticzoomer]

How u gonna close ur mouth? Those wires look too wide at the front and as though they'd cut into your lips

 

[optimisticzoomer]

That was unclear af I thought the teeth you drew were metal wires that go in between the teeth

Ngl tho I've changed my mine and think copeandrope's original idea was better

 

[Luke LLL]

Ngl tho I've changed my mine and think copeandrope's original idea was better

nah, that device is flawed

 

[optimisticzoomer]

nah, that device is flawed

I dont understand how. How is that one pulling at the front when its attached to the back? It's the same principle as the wire going all the way to the back of the palate, like I thought before and like OP. Also surely for an upswing, you'd want some pressure at the front anyway

 

[giving120everyday]

How did you build this?

 

[000]

My last one was okay but I didn’t realize that it can be done better and apply greater force it i just reinvented the wheel; the copeandrope appliance.

This one keeps the original design, but eliminates the painful acrylic swoosh that irritated my gums and made the appliance from an engineering standpoint weak.

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It’s just using some 12 gauge steel wire that has been shaped to fit in the palate and provide a more comfortable and practical appliance. This appliance does not interfere with the teeth and puts all the pressure on the palate. I put it in and I feel the irritation from the previous appliance, but better.

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How did you bend the wires in those precise positions

 

[000]

My last one was okay but I didn’t realize that it can be done better and apply greater force it i just reinvented the wheel; the copeandrope appliance.

This one keeps the original design, but eliminates the painful acrylic swoosh that irritated my gums and made the appliance from an engineering standpoint weak.

View attachment 470796

It’s just using some 12 gauge steel wire that has been shaped to fit in the palate and provide a more comfortable and practical appliance. This appliance does not interfere with the teeth and puts all the pressure on the palate. I put it in and I feel the irritation from the previous appliance, but better.

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How did you bend the wires so perfectly