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Wont post pics but will answer all questions honestly and detailed as possible.
Currently 2.5weeks post op.
Currently 2.5weeks post op.
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15k euro, 2k euro more for flights food ct scan and hotel costs.How much did you have to pay?
Did you wear braces prior, or will you be wearing them now?
3mm upper jaw, 8mm lower, 7mm genio. Tons of CCW but havent got the number from Ramieri yet, have tried to leave him alone during Christmas holidaysHow much advancement and what were the movements?
If I'm going to get bimax next year, can I just go straight into the surgery and wear braces after? Or am I absolutely gonna have to wear them prior?15k euro, 2k euro more for flights food ct scan and hotel costs.
Didn’t need braces as my bite was perfect (had braces during puberty) l, and dont need braces post op.
Ive heard of both options being done, i would guess it depends on what your specific surgeon prefers to do. You can ask these questions to surgeons on Instagram theey answer within a few daysIf I'm going to get bimax next year, can I just go straight into the surgery and wear braces after? Or am I absolutely gonna have to wear them prior?
I was gonna go with Andreischev but lmao after reading that post I'm not. I'm gonna go with Ramieri or Pagnoni too.Ive heard of both options being done, i would guess it depends on what your specific surgeon prefers to do. You can ask these questions to surgeons on Instagram theey answer within a few days
how much points u gained, i know you'r pretty realistic about yourself?3mm upper jaw, 8mm lower, 7mm genio. Tons of CCW but havent got the number from Ramieri yet, have tried to leave him alone during Christmas holidays
No clue, never talked or had any contact with him, it was purely Ramieri that I dealt withYou know why Marianetti quit ?
Quite a bit it looks like, but im still swollen. I feel my chin was made too big from the front, but that has to be taken with a grain of salt because there is still a lot swelling that can reduce.how much points u gained, i know you'r pretty realistic about yourself?
I was the extreme birdcel side profile, i definitely needed it. I had sleep apnea because my recession was so bad. Later when i get on my computer, ill post a drawn outline of my side profile so you can see why i had this rather than just chin wing.were you visibly recessed before the surgery?
if not, why go through Bimax CCW Genio instead of just an jaw implant
did the genio widen your chin?3mm upper jaw, 8mm lower, 7mm genio. Tons of CCW but havent got the number from Ramieri yet, have tried to leave him alone during Christmas holidays
Im too swollen to close mouth comfortably still (i can but it feels bad)You gonna mew rn? TBH you should to avoid relapse.
No it didnt, thats another reason im nervous atm about the chin, it currently looks too tall for how wide it is, since only 1 dimension was changed.did the genio widen your chin?
and how could you describe the general process?
like from looking his website till the actual surgery?
and what/how did you offer you solutions?
did you just say "make me please a chad, sir ramieri"
I am highly interested in him
The general process is tedious and painful af.did the genio widen your chin?
and how could you describe the general process?
like from looking his website till the actual surgery?
and what/how did you offer you solutions?
did you just say "make me please a chad, sir ramieri"
I am highly interested in him
He did both impaction at the front (despite no gummy smile at all) as well as downgraft at tthe back.ccw thru impaction? if so, how does ur mandible angle look now (aesthetically)?
prob heavily influenced by swelling, but whats your mouth/upper lip shape looking like now?
Yes lips widened about 15%, before they were very narrow that it was a failo, now theyre still slightly too narrow but nowhere near as bad.did your lips widen?
and your occlusion is still good after surgery? lifefuel if true
how is the staff and the communication for foreigners?
did your ramus got affected? does he offer ramus lengthening/widthening?
Mandible is too swollen to tell, no definition there yet, but there is on the chinccw thru impaction? if so, how does ur mandible angle look now (aesthetically)?
prob heavily influenced by swelling, but whats your mouth/upper lip shape looking like now?
Id have to see photos in PM to be sure, but from your description it sounds it might be a bad idea. It will make your philtrum more chimplike, and the more advancement you get the worse the chimplip would become.would a bimax suit somebody with already quite protrusive lips and concave philtrum (due to dentoalveolar protrusion), or would it make me look chimp-like?
Always leaned towards a minor implant just to make get more angularity but just curious
Yeah, ig it's better anyway since bimax recovery isn't a joke.Id have to see photos in PM to be sure, but from your description it sounds it might be a bad idea. It will make your philtrum more chimplike, and the more advancement you get the worse the chimplip would become.
I think chin wing is much better than imppants, to improve your jaw without looking fake.
Did he make somekinda morph/simulation of the expected results before the surgery?
Did your nose change from before?
I'm sure a wider paranasal base is better than a jewish nose from the side!Yes from the front my nose got a little wider at the nostril base.
From the side profile, the nose improved a fuck ton. This is because my distance from the nostril base (rests on upper jaw) to the nose tip was huge, it looked like the jewish meme with that guy who smirks and rubs his hands. Now it looks more straight and smaller from side profile. The upturning that can happen from bimax was minimal, the widening from front was the main downside, and this was despite him minimising the widening through Alar Cinch surgery during bimax.
Yes he does accurate morphs with advanced technology, he can move it 4mm on the computer and the computer shows how 4mm will look with 90% + accuracy.
I meant more likeThe general process is tedious and painful af.
Yes, theyre accurate.I'm sure a wider paranasal base is better than a jewish nose from the side!
So you're expecting to look similar to the morph he made ones swelling goes away?
Does it droop all the time or when smiling?Yes, theyre accurate.
Will get rhino later on still though, because i still have a droopy jewish tip and would like to reduce the width again
First thing to do is get consult online which cost 60 euros.I meant more like
1.i went to the clinic to consultation
2. He explained me he could do this and that
3. I went home
4.i went to his office where he operated me
5.i am in some random hospital
6.i paid for the surgery
Can you detail it like this?
I have no Idea what I should do to get the surgery jfl
Mirin,did you have to pay or did insurance cover part/all of it?
How was the experience with him? Does he listen to ideas and wishes and how is his understanding of aesthetics?
Thank you for answering all of our questionsFirst thing to do is get consult online which cost 60 euros.
Does it droop all the time or when smiling?
I hope he had good reasons for that otherwise jew confirmed kek4mm upper jaw, 11mm lower jaw, 4mm genio in surgical planning. Then post op he told me he did 3mm upper 8mm lower 7mm genio
Just straight to business, not much small talk.Thank you for answering all of our questions
How was it?
What did you ended up talking about?
Well done! I am scheduled with Ramieri as well for bimax + genio, his recommendation was to stay for 2 weeks post op.First thing to do is get consult online which cost 60 euros.
Then we agreed surgery date for 1month later.
I fly to Italy few days earlier than surgery, to enjoy Italy, to get CT Scan before surgery, then after I got CT Scan on same day we had surgical planning meeting right after.
Then 3days later, operation is performed at 7am. Then i stay in his clinic 2days post op.
After released from clinic, 5more days in hotel, eating only soup. On 5th day Ramieri checks myy recovery, gives me go ahead to fly home. Fly home next day, and thats it, recovery eatong and sleep became much easier after first 8days.
On 8th day you can eat soft foods without straw.
2weeks post op, you can eat almost anything except tough foods like steak and pork.
Extra costs for flights hotel food Ct Scan was 2k euros.
Yes on the 8th day post op i flew back, and that was fine.Well done! I am scheduled with Ramieri as well for bimax + genio, his recommendation was to stay for 2 weeks post op.
Did you only remain in Rome for 6 days postop? What did he say about risks of infection?
What widened lips?Yes lips widened about 15%, before they were very narrow that it was a failo, now theyre still slightly too narrow but nowhere near as bad.
Ramus unaffected.
Right now my occlusion feels off, but thats likely due to 1 side of my face being more swollen than the other (1 side had more movements because of asymmetry)
Ramkeri speaks fluent english, the nurses dont but it didnt matter, you cant talk post op anyway
No he didnt, yes its worth it for me but you shouldn't get this done if your recession isnt that bad, the procedure is a little overrated in terms of how much you will ascend imo. People narrow in on the bets ascensions like LordMadness, but most people dont get results that good even with the same surgeon, i know my result wont be close to good as his based on my mouth position already (not enough anteface, even with the swelling that might be making it more forward than it will end up).was it worth it bro? and did he tell you how to avoid relapse or anything like that?
Bimax did, because the lips before werent supported by my teeth and upper jaw enough. I was an extreme birdcel though, so i imagine this lip widening effect will happen less on guys who dont have very recessed starting points.What widened lips?
Did you know how long you’d stay beforehand? How did you manage the hotel when you realized you could leave before (if you booked a longer stay) or was it booked by a day-to-day basis?Yes on the 8th day post op i flew back, and that was fine.
Didnt mention anything about infection l, but i didnt get infected anyway.