-How to improve Midface Ratio-

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Hi everyone! In this guide i will try to help/motivate users with a bad midface ratio fullfiling their looksmax journey. It will not be very groundbreaking or something you never heard before, but all methods you see here are really the only one available for this cause.

So.. lets begin.

• Midface Shortening:
Start by measuring:
-nose
-ipd
-philtrum
❗with a ruler to be accurate❗
Let's say you're midface is 0.92 and youre measures are:
Ipd=60mm
Nose=50mm
Philtrum=15mm
》60/(50+15)=0.92
Why we need to know these? It will be much easier improving your ratio knowing accurate measures


🔹How to improve it:
*Rhinoplasty: alar reduction(if you need it)+refinement and lower the tip as much as possible(lets say 2mm). Now your nose will be = 48mm (but philtrum 17mm)
Now...
*Lip lift
= this can shorten your philtrum even up to 6mm. Lets say you will get 4mm reduction. Your philtrum will be = 13mm
For...
*IPD
>Lateral box osteotomy
>MLF3(if you need it) + ccw rotation
This 2 can improve IPD by 1.5-2mm (esp LBO by dr Sinn Douglas) so your IPD now got lets say 62mm
I will not put MSE because its nothing clear whenever improves ipd or not (you can try it ofcourse)

💠Result of midface ratio now:
After: 62/(48+13)=1.01


Ik we already knew all of this but i made it look more simple and maybe encourange some people here :)


@sytyl @GreenTea @TheCopefulCurry @joeveniro wdyt about my guide? ☺
 
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cope
 
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move your whole face theory
 
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op is @sytyl 's alt
 
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Honestly from some of the results I have seen from the High LF1's, they look to slightly improve overall midface ratios. The only death midface ratio that is essentially unfixable is IPD.
 
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Honestly from some of the results I have seen from the High LF1's, they look to slightly improve overall midface ratios. The only death midface ratio that is essentially unfixable is IPD.
What is a bad IPD, mine is 62
 
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Cope what?
Rhino?
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Lip lift?
Lip lift before after


Also cant find that pic with a guy who improved eye spacing by mse (or mlf3) it was on .net i eill show you if i find it
 
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lifefuel for my 0.85 midface
 
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Honestly from some of the results I have seen from the High LF1's, they look to slightly improve overall midface ratios. The only death midface ratio that is essentially unfixable is IPD.
Well... there is obo but nobody will get it

Lateral Orbital Osteotomy looks interesting

Also Triopod Osteotomy as well
LVZsGCu
 
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good thread @Summer (y)
 
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Honestly from some of the results I have seen from the High LF1's, they look to slightly improve overall midface ratios. The only death midface ratio that is essentially unfixable is IPD.
Mlf3 is different from high lf1

Sinn himself said mlf3 can improve ipd
 
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umm
never measured that tbh, but nose and philtrum is problem
If your nose is 59mm + then you need to start worry
And for philtrum just get a lip lift
If your lips are already big get a lip reduction after
 
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If your nose is 59mm + then you need to start worry
And for philtrum just get a lip lift
If your lips are already big get a lip reduction after
how can i measure my nose?
 
mlf3 with tripod osteotomy = up to 6mm ipd with pfl increase
 
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Mlf3 is different from high lf1

Sinn himself said mlf3 can improve ipd

That's lifefuel for people who need that tbh. I just like High LF1 because it literally improves everything you get from a regular LF1 but also mitigates the chances of chimp lip from over advancement and gives undereye support without even touching the orbital area.
 
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If your nose is 59mm + then you need to start worry
And for philtrum just get a lip lift
If your lips are already big get a lip reduction after

Lip lift is not a good idea for anyone with above average sized lips to large. Your proposition is probably the best I have seen for that but it would also be costly. I see a lot of people who get noticeably shorter philtrum ratios from CCW rotation but that might be placebo from longer lower third and taller lower third height.
 
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Your IPD is fine man, I told you what would help your face already.
Thanks man, sorry I just have one of the worst cases of BDD on the forum
 
Hi everyone! In this guide i will try to help/motivate users with a bad midface ratio fullfiling their looksmax journey. It will not be very groundbreaking or something you never heard before, but all methods you see here are really the only one available for this cause.

So.. lets begin.

• Midface Shortening:
Start by measuring:
-nose
-ipd
-philtrum
❗with a ruler to be accurate❗
Let's say you're midface is 0.92 and youre measures are:
Ipd=60mm
Nose=50mm
Philtrum=15mm
》60/(50+15)=0.92
Why we need to know these? It will be much easier improving your ratio knowing accurate measures


🔹How to improve it:
*Rhinoplasty: alar reduction(if you need it)+refinement and lower the tip as much as possible(lets say 2mm). Now your nose will be = 48mm (but philtrum 17mm)
Now...
*Lip lift
= this can shorten your philtrum even up to 6mm. Lets say you will get 4mm reduction. Your philtrum will be = 13mm
For...
*IPD
>Lateral box osteotomy
>MLF3(if you need it) + ccw rotation
This 2 can improve IPD by 1.5-2mm (esp LBO by dr Sinn Douglas) so your IPD now got lets say 62mm
I will not put MSE because its nothing clear whenever improves ipd or not (you can try it ofcourse)

💠Result of midface ratio now:
After: 62/(48+13)=1.01


Ik we already knew all of this but i made it look more simple and maybe encourange some people here :)


@sytyl @GreenTea @TheCopefulCurry @joeveniro wdyt about my guide? ☺
@RealSurgerymax I think your input here is going to be interesting. He says that a alar base reduction makes the midface looks shorter but in the pic its visible how after the cirurgy she got the appearance of a longer face. What do you think?
 

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@RealSurgerymax I think your input here is going to be interesting. He says that a alar base reduction makes the midface looks shorter but in the pic its visible how after the cirurgy she got the appearance of a longer face. What do you think?
Yes a long nose makes the midface look longer
 
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@RealSurgerymax

Enter here and help me correctly measure my midface ratio, please 😭

>how can I measure my nose? from nasion to nose tip?
> how can I measure my ipd?
> how can I measure my philtrum? from subnasal to upper lip?
 
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@RealSurgerymax

Enter here and help me correctly measure my midface ratio, please 😭

>how can I measure my nose? from nasion to nose tip?
> how can I measure my ipd?
> how can I measure my philtrum? from subnasal to upper lip?
I do it from scans, soft tissue too, after putting it in Frankfurt. As a part of formal analysis service
 
I do it from scans, soft tissue too, after putting it in Frankfurt. As a part of formal analysis service
Where’s your office?

Or can I get quality X-rays and photos of my Frankfurt Plane and send them to you?
 
But why in the pic the woman got her face longer after making the nose shorter in widht?
Some people’s perception I guess

Where’s your office?

Or can I get quality X-rays and photos of my Frankfurt Plane and send them to you?
Need 3D scans not x rays. Yes email and can do on zoom.
 
Some people’s perception I guess


Need 3D scans not x rays. Yes email and can do on zoom.
Where can I get those? In an studio?

Also, I’m just 15-years-old I just need to know my measurements.
 
Where can I get those? In an studio?

Also, I’m just 15-years-old I just need to know my measurements.
Need to be 18 for any analysis or aesthetic consult
 
fuck my nose is 60mm. my ipd is 65mm, philtrum 13-15mm. is it over?
 

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