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some nightmare fuel. @Ledgemund @Extra Chromosome
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not all of Gerstein's music sounds like that mind you, some weird bossa-nova jazz on some tracks, synth-pop, folk, balladering and then some noise. dude's experimental af.
 
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Good stuff.

@DeformAspergerCel might be intrested in this + the rest of the things released on Roger Karmanik's Cold Meat Industry label.


Related to the Skin Yard I posted a while back, I finally listened to this album, unsure of whether or not it would be good. Most of it isn't too great, but this is a pretty nice track:


Best song on Arise is this one I think:

 
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Got around to listening to this band. Early Math Rock like Breadwinner or Gneissmaker, who I mentioned before. Sounds like Slint or Shellac if they weren't boring (this band was active in Chicago, released their singles in 1992/3 - sounds like Shellac lifted their style pretty heavily from this band honestly).

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listen to it all cucks :ogre:
 
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Got around to listening to this band. Early Math Rock like Breadwinner or Gneissmaker, who I mentioned before. Sounds like Slint or Shellac if they weren't boring (this band was active in Chicago, released their singles in 1992/3 - sounds like Shellac lifted their style pretty heavily from this band honestly).

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here're some other songs you might like in case you haven't heard them already.

(I like this one especially as I'm both an admirer of certain doctrines within Christianity and neopaganism)
 
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Good stuff.

@DeformAspergerCel might be intrested in this + the rest of the things released on Roger Karmanik's Cold Meat Industry label.


Related to the Skin Yard I posted a while back, I finally listened to this album, unsure of whether or not it would be good. Most of it isn't too great, but this is a pretty nice track:


Best song on Arise is this one I think:

I listen to this when I speed;)
(I like this one especially as I'm both an admirer of certain doctrines within Christianity and neopaganism)
Is there a way for both?
 
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Got around to listening to this band. Early Math Rock like Breadwinner or Gneissmaker, who I mentioned before. Sounds like Slint or Shellac if they weren't boring (this band was active in Chicago, released their singles in 1992/3 - sounds like Shellac lifted their style pretty heavily from this band honestly).

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I will look them up,

there is also kraut/RIO/zeuhl inspired black/death metal



btw Roots and Chaos A.D were my soundtrack along with Pantera, The Deftones, Tool and Metallica during an outing to Disneyworld in the late 90s. not to brag but I ended up in a brief fling with some girl who looked like Gwen Stefani+Ariana Grande back then. we never fucked but I got to kiss her and touch her tits. and yes, her name was STACY. I kid you not. but then it was all downhill from there. met a kid into Cradle Of Filth there at Tower. I didn't like BM at the time because I thought it was silly.


JP always kicks ass

Is there a way for both?
yes I'm an example of that, I'm a Marcionite.
I would post more stuff I've been listening to but its huge

lets see if this works

for fans of Unsane and Helmet:

a mix of free jazz, drone, ambient, industrial, noise and RIO/Avant-Prog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1_vrrBXlH0

been delving into some PV/grind again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY-1_1CFcwQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cup9zJeBFbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3EI8pJzuPs

a little weirder, if Masonna/Government Alpha/Merzbow/etc, Enemy Soil, Sunn O))) and Darkthrone had a love child:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1BZFgN9PBA

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I like to ldar with this song ngl
 
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Is there a way for both?
Traditionalist family structure, minus the soylent shit about turning the other cheek and to always emphasize vengeance as a virtue over forgiveness with tribalism as opposed to universal ethics permeating every aspect of society. You could argue that this was practiced under the third reich, and it lead to one of the most prosperous societies to ever have existed until it got brought to its knees under the weight of international jewry

 
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minus the soylent shit about turning the other cheek and to always emphasize vengeance as a virtue over forgiveness with tribalism as opposed to universal ethics permeating every aspect of society.
The more I read the bible myself and compare notes with uncucked people the more I believe the bible was never meant to be as pacifist as the (((church))) claims it. Not only is the notion of killing being unnatural stupid, but also dishonest to claim when the bible has righteous killings. Doesn't the bible warn against pagan practices though?
 
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The more I read the bible myself and compare notes with uncucked people the more I believe the bible was never meant to be as pacifist as the (((church))) claims it. Not only is the notion of killing being unnatural stupid, but also dishonest to claim when the bible has righteous killings. Doesn't the bible warn against pagan practices though?
I'm not Christian myself, so I don't interpret everything the bible says as holy. That said, I would much rather live in a wholly christian society than I would in a wholly pagan one. It is true as you say that the church has been subverted by Jews to the point where whatever the bible preaches has been watered down to irrelevancy. I don't personally agree with all christian ethics and consider it flawed in certain aspects, but on things like women, gays, Jews and monogamous family structures, Christianity is fairly spot on.
 
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Traditionalist family structure, minus the soylent shit about turning the other cheek and to always emphasize vengeance as a virtue over forgiveness with tribalism as opposed to universal ethics permeating every aspect of society. You could argue that this was practiced under the third reich, and it lead to one of the most prosperous societies to ever have existed until it got brought to its knees under the weight of international jewry

thats what Enoch Powell's secret beliefs were. if there was ever a based Anglo besides Mosley, it was Powell. Powell was a Red Tory, a Socialist Patriot.
I'm a Christian Gnostic so my beliefs are like Marcion minus the reinterpretation of the bible plus a fondness for Sufist orders of Islam.
 
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I'm not Christian myself, so I don't interpret everything the bible says as holy. That said, I would much rather live in a wholly christian society than I would in a wholly pagan one. It is true as you say that the church has been subverted by Jews to the point where whatever the bible preaches has been watered down to irrelevancy. I don't personally agree with all christian ethics and consider it flawed in certain aspects, but on things like women, gays, Jews and monogamous family structures, Christianity is fairly spot on.
I dont really claim christian, but as I read the bible verses and compare with other versions, because one word can change entire meanings, I find its right about so many things. I care about truth, while ((Christians)) interpret verses into their idealized world. I dont hold it above other ways of life because I'm still trying to understand everything. Thats why I asked you about paganism.
 
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when you're sick of getting single blacked moms hitting on you:

 
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I dont really claim christian, but as I read the bible verses and compare with other versions, because one word can change entire meanings, I find its right about so many things. I care about truth, while ((Christians)) interpret verses into their idealized world. I dont hold it above other ways of life because I'm still trying to understand everything. Thats why I asked you about paganism.
Yeah, my view on it is that paganism is good to the extent that it takes care of the worldly, while christianity is good to the extent that it takes care of the outworldly, quells existential dread and gives people a higher purpose. Whether the afterlife, as described by the bible, is actually true or not is a separate question.


here's what Goebbels had to say about it
 
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Yeah, my view on it is that paganism is good to the extent that it takes care of the worldly, while christianity is good to the extent that it takes care of the outworldly, quells existential dread and gives people a higher purpose. Whether the afterlife, as described by the bible, is actually true or not is a separate question.


here's what Goebbels had to say about it
good shit, thanks for this
also, one of the best bands to come out of Oz besides Lubricated Goat and Sadistik Exekution

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Intense_Hammer_Rage/2717
Lyrical themes:Gore, :feelsmega:Paedophilia, Bestiality, Scat, Cannibalism, Rape
 
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yeah its Nathanlarsoncore

anyways

most MySpace tards remember this guy:

 
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this is good





literally anything avant-grindcore right now hits the spot
 
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Gneissmaker, who I mentioned before
I got curious about this band's background and dug around a bit.

If anyone's curious as to what they actually sound like, you can find their full-length Forty Acre Fugue here.

I also found a demo posted here that links the amateurish and dull sound on their first split single from 1990 to the much more developed one on their full-length from 1994.

Unfortunately, as with a lot of people erstwhile involved in US Punk/Noise Rock/Metal, one of the band members is now a huge soy cuck. Ominous and disappointing that the music I grew up with was made almost entirely by a sty of soft, brainwashed libertines.

None of the members ever did much outside of this band musically it appears.

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I will look them up,

there is also kraut/RIO/zeuhl inspired black/death metal



btw Roots and Chaos A.D were my soundtrack along with Pantera, The Deftones, Tool and Metallica during an outing to Disneyworld in the late 90s. not to brag but I ended up in a brief fling with some girl who looked like Gwen Stefani+Ariana Grande back then. we never fucked but I got to kiss her and touch her tits. and yes, her name was STACY. I kid you not. but then it was all downhill from there. met a kid into Cradle Of Filth there at Tower. I didn't like BM at the time because I thought it was silly.



JP always kicks ass



yes I'm an example of that, I'm a Marcionite.
I would post more stuff I've been listening to but its huge

lets see if this works

for fans of Unsane and Helmet:

a mix of free jazz, drone, ambient, industrial, noise and RIO/Avant-Prog:

been delving into some PV/grind again:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cup9zJeBFbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3EI8pJzuPs

a little weirder, if Masonna/Government Alpha/Merzbow/etc, Enemy Soil, Sunn O))) and Darkthrone had a love child:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1BZFgN9PBA

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Ah nice, I've heard Wrong and Aluk Todolo before. Have to check out the rest.

Re: Christianity, I've been reading the Bible myself lately and have increasingly turned in the direction of faith. I'm not at the point where I can devote myself religiously, but so far I've also noticed the fundamental truth of the doctrine. I just finished Leviticus - many relevant passages.

14If, however, you fail to obey Me and to carry out all these commandments,
15and if you reject My statutes, despise My ordinances, and neglect to carry out all My commandments, and so break My covenant,
16then this is what I will do to you: I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting disease, and fever that will destroy your sight and drain your life. You will sow your seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it.
17And I will set My face against you, so that you will be defeated by your enemies. Those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee when no one pursues you.


I certainly am not to the point to distinguish between sects and claim allegiance with any one particular, but I tend to be repelled from Gnosticism and Islam due to the nature of their metaphysical presuppositions (@IntolerantSocialist - I haven't read the Koran, but I've heard Islam compared w/ Spinoza) and, more than anything, the bearing of their followers. The mantle of a religion is carried by its adherents and their conduct a test of its worth. Gnosticism is superficially appealing in its hatred of the material world, but, in "renunciation", Gnostic orders would often degenerate into orgies similar to Hippie/Hollywood Satanic shit. The "based" gibs me dat Islamist ookpillers at .co are another good example. Would things be any better under their hand where you're robbed openly instead of insidiously under secular liberalism?

@DeformAspergerCel - I need to read more about the National Socialists and Christianity. As I understand it, there was a lot of scorn directed toward it in certain quarters (namely Himmler), while many recognized its fundamental importance in shaping the national spirit (Rosenberg, Goebbels).
 
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you're evil as the demons that haunt you
forgetting what it was that they taught you
but now there's no one left to stop you
or to catch you when you when you when you

when your blood-shot your eyes drop
and the skin's all wearing thin
there's no one here to tell you about the depth of the water
or the trouble that you're in
you're dancin' with your demons baby
you forgot your former lie
and it was hard swimmin' once
and now you're daily divin' in
 
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I got curious about this band's background and dug around a bit.

If anyone's curious as to what they actually sound like, you can find their full-length Forty Acre Fugue here.

I also found a demo posted here that links the amateurish and dull sound on their first split single from 1990 to the much more developed one on their full-length from 1994.

Unfortunately, as with a lot of people erstwhile involved in US Punk/Noise Rock/Metal, one of the band members is now a huge soy cuck. Ominous and disappointing that the music I grew up with was made almost entirely by a sty of soft, brainwashed libertines.

None of the members ever did much outside of this band musically it appears.

@IntolerantSocialist



Ah nice, I've heard Wrong and Aluk Todolo before. Have to check out the rest.

Re: Christianity, I've been reading the Bible myself lately and have increasingly turned in the direction of faith. I'm not at the point where I can devote myself religiously, but so far I've also noticed the fundamental truth of the doctrine. I just finished Leviticus - many relevant passages.

14If, however, you fail to obey Me and to carry out all these commandments,
15and if you reject My statutes, despise My ordinances, and neglect to carry out all My commandments, and so break My covenant,
16then this is what I will do to you: I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting disease, and fever that will destroy your sight and drain your life. You will sow your seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it.
17And I will set My face against you, so that you will be defeated by your enemies. Those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee when no one pursues you.


I certainly am not to the point to distinguish between sects and claim allegiance with any one particular, but I tend to be repelled from Gnosticism and Islam due to the nature of their metaphysical presuppositions (@IntolerantSocialist - I haven't read the Koran, but I've heard Islam compared w/ Spinoza) and, more than anything, the bearing of their followers. The mantle of a religion is carried by its adherents and their conduct a test of its worth. Gnosticism is superficially appealing in its hatred of the material world, but, in "renunciation", Gnostic orders would often degenerate into orgies similar to Hippie/Hollywood Satanic shit. The "based" gibs me dat Islamist ookpillers at .co are another good example. Would things be any better under their hand where you're robbed openly instead of insidiously under secular liberalism?

@DeformAspergerCel - I need to read more about the National Socialists and Christianity. As I understand it, there was a lot of scorn directed toward it in certain quarters (namely Himmler), while many recognized its fundamental importance in shaping the national spirit (Rosenberg, Goebbels).
a lot of AmRep bands did a film soundtrack for (((Al Goldstein))), kike porn producer. shame. you should read how he feels about Christian Europeans. also the Gnosticism I follow is Marcionism, who disliked jews, and wasn't into orgies. he was the OG. Islam, my fondness for it stems from all the shit liberals turn a blind eye to, like honor killings, heretic killings, terrorism/concept of jihad (holy war). there is also a difference between Gnostics who are Luciferian to Gnostic Christians. I for one, like Jesus. and yes I do believe he was sort of a Socialist. I bet you most Islamists at .co are Sunni heretics and not based Sufi or Shiite orders.
 
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if you speak of modern cucked Gnosticism, its Kabballah, that's jewish (((gnosticism))). nothing to do with Christ.
that's a really good band. sheesh, the hessians are coming out of the woodwork the last few days
Himmler also tried killing Hitler (so he could take the throne of the NSDAP himself) and actual Himmlerists exist.
 
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@DeformAspergerCel - I need to read more about the National Socialists and Christianity. As I understand it, there was a lot of scorn directed toward it in certain quarters (namely Himmler), while many recognized its fundamental importance in shaping the national spirit (Rosenberg, Goebbels).
I would say that's generally correct. The NSDAP didn't by any means hold christianity in holy regards, but saw it as a vehicle for national unity, as you say. Hitler was also a politician and therefore had to bargain with his largely christian conservative base, and so that put some restraint on his actual view of Christianity. He did approve of Rosenberg's work though, so it's likely that he desired a long term transition away from Christianity, while also retaining some of its core elements, integrating it into a larger Germanic framework. I wouldn't necessarily say any of the people within Hitler's cabinet viewed Christianity with contempt. As for your point about Himmler, let's not forget that he was also a great admirer of the Christian order the Teutonic Knights and modeled the SS on it. The supposed hostility that the head of the NSDAP had for Christianity has largely been exaggerated in a deliberate propaganda campaign to turn what would've otherwise been sympathetic traditionalist Christians away from dangerous ideas

 
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a lot of AmRep bands did a film soundtrack for (((Al Goldstein))), kike porn producer. shame. you should read how he feels about Christian Europeans. also the Gnosticism I follow is Marcionism, who disliked jews, and wasn't into orgies. he was the OG. Islam, my fondness for it stems from all the shit liberals turn a blind eye to, like honor killings, heretic killings, terrorism/concept of jihad (holy war). there is also a difference between Gnostics who are Luciferian to Gnostic Christians. I for one, like Jesus. and yes I do believe he was sort of a Socialist. I bet you most Islamists at .co are Sunni heretics and not based Sufi or Shiite orders.
Must have been this one:


Makes sense honestly. That whole crowd was very much emblematic of standard Murgurn tits and beer Rock n Roll typical of the non-religious but spiritually evangelical in the late part of the 20th century. Implicitly Zionist and philosemitic, the weight of the US military-industrial complex and the sacralized free market hangs over the scene (Hazelmeyer was in the Marines, Melvins are libertarians, etc.) I wouldn't expect anyone who played in one of those bands to have any reservations about either porn or Juden.

It's an honest representation of the Midwestern US though tbh. Sounds like the atmosphere in that part of the country like nothing else and was fittingly created by very typical representatives of the region (usually either the middling punk rocker turned cosmopolitan soy cuck lawyer/humanities grad student/librarian or the Middle American garage band libertarian - latter is still preferable to the former, all things considered).

Still need to read many more religious texts. I'll eventually read the Koran, probably more about the gnostics too.

As to the ookpillers at .co, they're definitely all Sunni. I've never seen a Shi'ite, an Alawite, etc. From my limited encounters with Islam as a whole though, it seems rather like an expressly quasi-political ideology and effectively an instrument of Arabization. Every predominantly Muslim country has been Arabized to a degree - Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia. Guenon took an Arabic name after he converted to Sufism, Arabic is considered the sole legitimate language of the prophecy, hierarchies within Islamist organizations with other populations usually serving as cannon fodder e.g. Uyghers. It doesn't strike me as possible to truly develop (even preserve) one's own culture and introduce Islam - or even major elements of it - at the same time.

As to the question of keeping sympathies with independent nations, that's another matter. I am enthusiastic about Iran and Syria (the former is fairly unique in the Middle East in having a good deal of religious pluralism and tolerance), but I'm also wary of applying too much significance to the Judenfrage. Jews are a people to whom most ascribe far too little significance, but to whom the Right is often guilty of applying too much. Don't lose sight of the fact that many others are enemies just as craven and rapacious, only less competent. This is why I'm usually skeptical of "based anti-Zionist alliances" and the like. I ultimately don't trust Sunni ookpillers or the broader political systems they represent either.

I would say that's generally correct. The NSDAP didn't by any means hold christianity in holy regards, but saw it as a vehicle for national unity, as you say. Hitler was also a politician and therefore had to bargain with his largely christian conservative base, and so that put some restraint on his actual view of Christianity. He did approve of Rosenberg's work though, so it's likely that he desired a long term transition away from Christianity, while also retaining some of its core elements, integrating it into a larger Germanic framework. I wouldn't necessarily say any of the people within Hitler's cabinet viewed Christianity with contempt. As for your point about Himmler, let's not forget that he was also a great admirer of the Christian order the Teutonic Knights and modeled the SS on it. The supposed hostility that the head of the NSDAP had for Christianity has largely been exaggerated in a deliberate propaganda campaign to turn what would've otherwise been sympathetic traditionalist Christians away from dangerous ideas

No question. The Third Reich is a topic one definitely has to dig into deeply to get the truth. Few things are enveloped by a haze of obfuscation quite like the events and ideas surrounding WWII.

I've got to do serious reading about National Socialist philosophies and political ambitions tbh. I've mostly only read on Italian Fascism and some of its important precursors (bits of Proudhon, Sorel, and Pareto). Bolshevism too from my bored and wavering politics-as-industrial-esthetic days.
 
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I've got to do serious reading about National Socialist philosophies and political ambitions tbh. I've mostly only read on Italian Fascism and some of its important precursors (bits of Proudhon, Sorel, and Pareto). Bolshevism too from my bored and wavering politics-as-industrial-esthetic days.
Yeah, I've got to do more reading up on fascism myself. I'm currently finishing up on Nietzsche and intend on reading Spengler next. Any recommendations?
 
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Yeah, I've got to do more reading up on fascism myself. I'm currently finishing up on Nietzsche and intend on reading Spengler next. Any recommendations?
What did you read of Nietzsche? A couple years back, I went through The Birth of Tragedy, On the Genealogy of Morals, Beyond Good and Evil, and Ecce Homo (all neutered Kaufmann translations however). Spengler is outstanding. I read Decline of the West (his major work, definitely start here) last year - some passages are absolutely flooring for their insight. Be aware that it might take a long time to make it through the full 1,000 pages though. Once you're done there, I'd read Yockey (takes up Spengler's mantle and applies it to the concept of a possible post-WWII national movement); I still have to actually. For pure philosophy, Schopenhauer is a good choice, especially since he was precursor of Nietzsche (though the latter does famously break with his thought). Maybe some essays out of Parerga and Paralipomena rather than a whole work like The World as Will and Representation. Famous misogynist as well. Influential figure for many nationalists from Wagner to Hitler.

@IntolerantSocialist definitely knows this field well. He should have a lot of stuff to recommend as far as Third Position political philosophy.

If you want lighter reading, pick up something by Michel Houellebecq. The Elementary Particles is incredible. He's somewhat famous for his diagnosis of modern inceldom.
 
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wasn't Michel hated by universally everyone? he was hated because he told the truth.
Must have been this one:


Makes sense honestly. That whole crowd was very much emblematic of standard Murgurn tits and beer Rock n Roll typical of the non-religious but spiritually evangelical in the late part of the 20th century. Implicitly Zionist and philosemitic, the weight of the US military-industrial complex and the sacralized free market hangs over the scene (Hazelmeyer was in the Marines, Melvins are libertarians, etc.) I wouldn't expect anyone who played in one of those bands to have any reservations about either porn or Juden.

It's an honest representation of the Midwestern US though tbh. Sounds like the atmosphere in that part of the country like nothing else and was fittingly created by very typical representatives of the region (usually either the middling punk rocker turned cosmopolitan soy cuck lawyer/humanities grad student/librarian or the Middle American garage band libertarian - latter is still preferable to the former, all things considered).

Still need to read many more religious texts. I'll eventually read the Koran, probably more about the gnostics too.

As to the ookpillers at .co, they're definitely all Sunni. I've never seen a Shi'ite, an Alawite, etc. From my limited encounters with Islam as a whole though, it seems rather like an expressly quasi-political ideology and effectively an instrument of Arabization. Every predominantly Muslim country has been Arabized to a degree - Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia. Guenon took an Arabic name after he converted to Sufism, Arabic is considered the sole legitimate language of the prophecy, hierarchies within Islamist organizations with other populations usually serving as cannon fodder e.g. Uyghers. It doesn't strike me as possible to truly develop (even preserve) one's own culture and introduce Islam - or even major elements of it - at the same time.

As to the question of keeping sympathies with independent nations, that's another matter. I am enthusiastic about Iran and Syria (the former is fairly unique in the Middle East in having a good deal of religious pluralism and tolerance), but I'm also wary of applying too much significance to the Judenfrage. Jews are a people to whom most ascribe far too little significance, but to whom the Right is often guilty of applying too much. Don't lose sight of the fact that many others are enemies just as craven and rapacious, only less competent. This is why I'm usually skeptical of "based anti-Zionist alliances" and the like. I ultimately don't trust Sunni ookpillers or the broader political systems they represent either.



No question. The Third Reich is a topic one definitely has to dig into deeply to get the truth. Few things are enveloped by a haze of obfuscation quite like the events and ideas surrounding WWII.

I've got to do serious reading about National Socialist philosophies and political ambitions tbh. I've mostly only read on Italian Fascism and some of its important precursors (bits of Proudhon, Sorel, and Pareto). Bolshevism too from my bored and wavering politics-as-industrial-esthetic days.
a lot of people went soy around here so they blackballed me out of the scene for not being conformist.

but I thought the idea of non-conformity was punk rock....I guess not....hmmmmm
I was talking about Schopenhauer earlier. he had a famous quote, and I see it play out the past five or so years

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

in many different forms. btw how does this disagree with Hegel's dialectical system. Schope and Hegel hated each other but for what reason?
Spengler to me is pure historicism. its not a bad tendency but it makes his point draw out too far.
 
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What did you read of Nietzsche? A couple years back, I went through The Birth of Tragedy, On the Genealogy of Morals, Beyond Good and Evil, and Ecce Homo (all neutered Kaufmann translations however). Spengler is outstanding. I read Decline of the West (his major work, definitely start here) last year - some passages are absolutely flooring for their insight. Be aware that it might take a long time to make it through the full 1,000 pages though. Once you're done there, I'd read Yockey (takes up Spengler's mantle and applies it to the concept of a possible post-WWII national movement); I still have to actually. For pure philosophy, Schopenhauer is a good choice, especially since he was precursor of Nietzsche (though the latter does famously break with his thought). Maybe some essays out of Parerga and Paralipomena rather than a whole work like The World as Will and Representation. Famous misogynist as well. Influential figure for many nationalists from Wagner to Hitler.

@IntolerantSocialist definitely knows this field well. He should have a lot of stuff to recommend as far as Third Position political philosophy.

If you want lighter reading, pick up something by Michel Houellebecq. The Elementary Particles is incredible. He's somewhat famous for his diagnosis of modern inceldom.
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The will to Power and thus spoke Zarathustra. Might read beyond good and evil and the antichrist too (real life friend who's an openly self identifying National Socialist recommended the latter to me)
 
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I'm not the fondest of Nietzsche but he has his place.
I don't agree with all of Nietzsche's writing or everything I've read of him, but he's certainly an intelligent man with worthwhile perspectives to consider

 
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It's harsh noise industrial it's not supposed to. Been doing it since 2006-7. Sort of an infamous legend in the scene. It's my cross to bear
 
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Yeah, I've got to do more reading up on fascism myself. I'm currently finishing up on Nietzsche and intend on reading Spengler next. Any recommendations?
btw I still run into the same problem with Spengler...I get the gist of what he means but he's very unreadable
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I know of these guys, they were booted off bandcamp because the cucks there told them to "tone it down"

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wasn't Michel hated by universally everyone? he was hated because he told the truth.
Houellebecq is actually quite popular; one of the few contemporary novelists who's written enduring work. He gets a lot of praise by most people who aren't pozzed scolds. To the last point however, he's still a very controversial figure given the context. He's written against Islam, in tacit support of sex tourism (the subject of Platform), and gave an honest portrait of involuntary celibacy as a form of material poverty 25 years ago (original title of Whatever was Extension du domaine de la lutte - Extension of the Domain of Struggle - from economic to sexual). His first two books have a lot of great quotes about sexual liberalization making "layyyyyyyy count" the necessary gauge of status; physical appeal, not moral character or anything lie that, (+ the agepill, very heavy presence in his books) as the decisive criterion for admiration and success in modern life; social and metaphysical atomization and the ultimate transitory emptiness of hedonism.

Fontaine used to post about him a good deal.

a lot of people went soy around here so they blackballed me out of the scene for not being conformist.

but I thought the idea of non-conformity was punk rock....I guess not....hmmmmm
"Non-conformity" wherein the system presents soy punks a neat list of "conformisms" to "rebel" against. These people are too stupid to see their pet causes being handed to them right off an assembly line.

Funny how things like this work

"Anti-sexism", "anti-racism", "anti-xenophobia", "anti-transphobia" are legitimate "rebellions". I can tell because universities teach classes about it, popular figures mouth it, and anything against it is vigorously stubbed out of the public sphere (because it's self-evidently ridiculous so who cares teehee). The force of consensus married with (sub)human cowardice and stupidity is powerful, so people only ever end up "standing behind" things that are already well-reinforced.

I was talking about Schopenhauer earlier. he had a famous quote, and I see it play out the past five or so years

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

in many different forms. btw how does this disagree with Hegel's dialectical system. Schope and Hegel hated each other but for what reason?
Spengler to me is pure historicism. its not a bad tendency but it makes his point draw out too far.
Yeah, that's a famous one from him.

He was opposed to most of the post-Kant idealists, like Fichte and Hegel, yeah. I don't recall the fundamental issues he had, but he tended to deride them as bombastic manglers of philosophy, who weaved incoherence out of tangled and sloppy logic. I haven't read Hegel, so I can't say anything as to the worth of this estimation.

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The will to Power and thus spoke Zarathustra. Might read beyond good and evil and the antichrist too (real life friend who's an openly self identifying National Socialist recommended the latter to me)
Yeah, I need to read Twilight of the Idols, Human, All Too Human, and Thoughts Out of Season. In the proper translations as well. Avoid modern, post-WWII translations, as many (Kaufmann notoriously) have truncated, reshaped, and "interpreted" elements of his philosophy into docility in order to rehabilitate his work. This is one of the reasons his work found such a strange audience in the faget Post-Structuralists and Gender Theorists of the 60s and 70s. I've heard good things about Ludovici's translations.

I'm not the fondest of Nietzsche but he has his place.

Carl Schmidt is also a good read

also, look at the author's name. and at the end you can tell he's scurred

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Foucault was great even though Tumblrinas like to tout him. strange thing is, so do Nazbols.
Nietzsche has a tendency to bloviate toward soaring heights. He's something of an Incel Tom as well (all the talk of "higher man" with his escortcelling, congenital defects, and indispositions - though to be fair he spoke of spirit and not mere physicality - not the case with some of his faggot acolytes like George Bernard Shaw, who wrote Man and Superman effectively on the idea of the "wisdom" of sexual selection - Spengler kicks his ass in Untergang des Abendlandes @DeformAspergerCel - I used to have it as my sig here). Nietzsche's pretty good, but Nietzscheans are often huge dorks, whether they're fruity, arrogant classicists (read: buttfuckers) on the Right or incontinent, defective relativists on the Left. Schopenhauer is the opposite, a man who had occasional affairs, but who hated cunts and even pushed one down a flight of stairs. A man who knew profoundly the pain of worldly desire.

I want to read Schmitt soon. I've heard very good things. I'll be getting ahold of a copy of The Concept of the Political soon hopefully. Very insightful opponent of "yuman rights"

The concept of humanity is an especially useful ideological instrument of imperialist expansion, and in its ethical-humanitarian form it is a specific vehicle of economic imperialism. Here one is reminded of a somewhat modified expression of Proudhon’s: whoever invokes humanity wants to cheat. To confiscate the word humanity, to invoke and monopolize such a term probably has certain incalculable effects, such as denying the enemy the quality of being human and declaring him to be an outlaw of humanity; and a war can thereby be driven to the most extreme inhumanity.
Peste Noire is always great. As far as French Black Metal goes, this remains at the top for me


btw I still run into the same problem with Spengler...I get the gist of what he means but he's very unreadable


I know of these guys, they were booted off bandcamp because the cucks there told them to "tone it down"


have a proggy easter!
Spengler takes some deliberation to understand at times, but it's very worth it in the end. Untergang/Decline is one of the best things I've ever read.

Bandcuck is one of the leaders in the ideological wagon-circling of modern "extreme music". Buying downloads is gay anyways. Much better to get a stack of old CDs for $20. "Supporting artists" is not a consideration when you're just paying for the fruits of some Redditor's weekend hobby so he can buy a new delay pedal.

I've been enjoying these lately:



 
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Ah Season To Risk is great, used to listen to them a lot @Ledgemund might go pick up some of their stuff again. I use a git hub piracy app for bandcuck because Fuck giving them money

lately a lot of grind





Also a lot of other stuff, ranging from deathcore/tech metalcore stuff like The Red Chord and Whitechapel, to industrial weirdness like Vox Populi!, Storm Bugs, Notstandskomitee, Zombies Under Stress to indie rock noise like Shellac and The Jesus Lizard
and yeah Nietszcheans I've encountered, whether left or right tend to be fedora tippers.

people who like Schopenhauer are less common but often found in the men's rights community. Nietzsche was an escortcel, but Schopenhauer was more like me, had relationships, lots of troublesome ones, and just like me, has done dastardly things to foids.
no music for face
obviously but as many of the philosophers we spoke about here would say its "the highest of copes, the spirit of human innovation"
 
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