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some nightmare fuel. @Ledgemund @Extra Chromosome
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not all of Gerstein's music sounds like that mind you, some weird bossa-nova jazz on some tracks, synth-pop, folk, balladering and then some noise. dude's experimental af.
 
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Good stuff.

@DeformAspergerCel might be intrested in this + the rest of the things released on Roger Karmanik's Cold Meat Industry label.


Related to the Skin Yard I posted a while back, I finally listened to this album, unsure of whether or not it would be good. Most of it isn't too great, but this is a pretty nice track:


Best song on Arise is this one I think:

 

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Got around to listening to this band. Early Math Rock like Breadwinner or Gneissmaker, who I mentioned before. Sounds like Slint or Shellac if they weren't boring (this band was active in Chicago, released their singles in 1992/3 - sounds like Shellac lifted their style pretty heavily from this band honestly).

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Got around to listening to this band. Early Math Rock like Breadwinner or Gneissmaker, who I mentioned before. Sounds like Slint or Shellac if they weren't boring (this band was active in Chicago, released their singles in 1992/3 - sounds like Shellac lifted their style pretty heavily from this band honestly).

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here're some other songs you might like in case you haven't heard them already.

(I like this one especially as I'm both an admirer of certain doctrines within Christianity and neopaganism)
 

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Good stuff.

@DeformAspergerCel might be intrested in this + the rest of the things released on Roger Karmanik's Cold Meat Industry label.


Related to the Skin Yard I posted a while back, I finally listened to this album, unsure of whether or not it would be good. Most of it isn't too great, but this is a pretty nice track:


Best song on Arise is this one I think:

I listen to this when I speed;)
(I like this one especially as I'm both an admirer of certain doctrines within Christianity and neopaganism)
Is there a way for both?
 

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Got around to listening to this band. Early Math Rock like Breadwinner or Gneissmaker, who I mentioned before. Sounds like Slint or Shellac if they weren't boring (this band was active in Chicago, released their singles in 1992/3 - sounds like Shellac lifted their style pretty heavily from this band honestly).

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I will look them up,

there is also kraut/RIO/zeuhl inspired black/death metal



btw Roots and Chaos A.D were my soundtrack along with Pantera, The Deftones, Tool and Metallica during an outing to Disneyworld in the late 90s. not to brag but I ended up in a brief fling with some girl who looked like Gwen Stefani+Ariana Grande back then. we never fucked but I got to kiss her and touch her tits. and yes, her name was STACY. I kid you not. but then it was all downhill from there. met a kid into Cradle Of Filth there at Tower. I didn't like BM at the time because I thought it was silly.


JP always kicks ass

Is there a way for both?
yes I'm an example of that, I'm a Marcionite.
I would post more stuff I've been listening to but its huge

lets see if this works

for fans of Unsane and Helmet:

a mix of free jazz, drone, ambient, industrial, noise and RIO/Avant-Prog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1_vrrBXlH0

been delving into some PV/grind again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY-1_1CFcwQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cup9zJeBFbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3EI8pJzuPs

a little weirder, if Masonna/Government Alpha/Merzbow/etc, Enemy Soil, Sunn O))) and Darkthrone had a love child:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1BZFgN9PBA

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Is there a way for both?
Traditionalist family structure, minus the soylent shit about turning the other cheek and to always emphasize vengeance as a virtue over forgiveness with tribalism as opposed to universal ethics permeating every aspect of society. You could argue that this was practiced under the third reich, and it lead to one of the most prosperous societies to ever have existed until it got brought to its knees under the weight of international jewry

 

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minus the soylent shit about turning the other cheek and to always emphasize vengeance as a virtue over forgiveness with tribalism as opposed to universal ethics permeating every aspect of society.
The more I read the bible myself and compare notes with uncucked people the more I believe the bible was never meant to be as pacifist as the (((church))) claims it. Not only is the notion of killing being unnatural stupid, but also dishonest to claim when the bible has righteous killings. Doesn't the bible warn against pagan practices though?
 

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The more I read the bible myself and compare notes with uncucked people the more I believe the bible was never meant to be as pacifist as the (((church))) claims it. Not only is the notion of killing being unnatural stupid, but also dishonest to claim when the bible has righteous killings. Doesn't the bible warn against pagan practices though?
I'm not Christian myself, so I don't interpret everything the bible says as holy. That said, I would much rather live in a wholly christian society than I would in a wholly pagan one. It is true as you say that the church has been subverted by Jews to the point where whatever the bible preaches has been watered down to irrelevancy. I don't personally agree with all christian ethics and consider it flawed in certain aspects, but on things like women, gays, Jews and monogamous family structures, Christianity is fairly spot on.
 
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Traditionalist family structure, minus the soylent shit about turning the other cheek and to always emphasize vengeance as a virtue over forgiveness with tribalism as opposed to universal ethics permeating every aspect of society. You could argue that this was practiced under the third reich, and it lead to one of the most prosperous societies to ever have existed until it got brought to its knees under the weight of international jewry

thats what Enoch Powell's secret beliefs were. if there was ever a based Anglo besides Mosley, it was Powell. Powell was a Red Tory, a Socialist Patriot.
I'm a Christian Gnostic so my beliefs are like Marcion minus the reinterpretation of the bible plus a fondness for Sufist orders of Islam.
 

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I'm not Christian myself, so I don't interpret everything the bible says as holy. That said, I would much rather live in a wholly christian society than I would in a wholly pagan one. It is true as you say that the church has been subverted by Jews to the point where whatever the bible preaches has been watered down to irrelevancy. I don't personally agree with all christian ethics and consider it flawed in certain aspects, but on things like women, gays, Jews and monogamous family structures, Christianity is fairly spot on.
I dont really claim christian, but as I read the bible verses and compare with other versions, because one word can change entire meanings, I find its right about so many things. I care about truth, while ((Christians)) interpret verses into their idealized world. I dont hold it above other ways of life because I'm still trying to understand everything. Thats why I asked you about paganism.
 

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when you're sick of getting single blacked moms hitting on you:

 

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I dont really claim christian, but as I read the bible verses and compare with other versions, because one word can change entire meanings, I find its right about so many things. I care about truth, while ((Christians)) interpret verses into their idealized world. I dont hold it above other ways of life because I'm still trying to understand everything. Thats why I asked you about paganism.
Yeah, my view on it is that paganism is good to the extent that it takes care of the worldly, while christianity is good to the extent that it takes care of the outworldly, quells existential dread and gives people a higher purpose. Whether the afterlife, as described by the bible, is actually true or not is a separate question.


here's what Goebbels had to say about it
 

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Yeah, my view on it is that paganism is good to the extent that it takes care of the worldly, while christianity is good to the extent that it takes care of the outworldly, quells existential dread and gives people a higher purpose. Whether the afterlife, as described by the bible, is actually true or not is a separate question.


here's what Goebbels had to say about it
good shit, thanks for this
also, one of the best bands to come out of Oz besides Lubricated Goat and Sadistik Exekution

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Intense_Hammer_Rage/2717
Lyrical themes:Gore, :feelsmega:Paedophilia, Bestiality, Scat, Cannibalism, Rape
 

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yeah its Nathanlarsoncore

anyways

most MySpace tards remember this guy:

 

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this is good





literally anything avant-grindcore right now hits the spot
 

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Gneissmaker, who I mentioned before
I got curious about this band's background and dug around a bit.

If anyone's curious as to what they actually sound like, you can find their full-length Forty Acre Fugue here.

I also found a demo posted here that links the amateurish and dull sound on their first split single from 1990 to the much more developed one on their full-length from 1994.

Unfortunately, as with a lot of people erstwhile involved in US Punk/Noise Rock/Metal, one of the band members is now a huge soy cuck. Ominous and disappointing that the music I grew up with was made almost entirely by a sty of soft, brainwashed libertines.

None of the members ever did much outside of this band musically it appears.

@IntolerantSocialist

I will look them up,

there is also kraut/RIO/zeuhl inspired black/death metal



btw Roots and Chaos A.D were my soundtrack along with Pantera, The Deftones, Tool and Metallica during an outing to Disneyworld in the late 90s. not to brag but I ended up in a brief fling with some girl who looked like Gwen Stefani+Ariana Grande back then. we never fucked but I got to kiss her and touch her tits. and yes, her name was STACY. I kid you not. but then it was all downhill from there. met a kid into Cradle Of Filth there at Tower. I didn't like BM at the time because I thought it was silly.



JP always kicks ass



yes I'm an example of that, I'm a Marcionite.
I would post more stuff I've been listening to but its huge

lets see if this works

for fans of Unsane and Helmet:

a mix of free jazz, drone, ambient, industrial, noise and RIO/Avant-Prog:

been delving into some PV/grind again:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cup9zJeBFbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3EI8pJzuPs

a little weirder, if Masonna/Government Alpha/Merzbow/etc, Enemy Soil, Sunn O))) and Darkthrone had a love child:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1BZFgN9PBA

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Ah nice, I've heard Wrong and Aluk Todolo before. Have to check out the rest.

Re: Christianity, I've been reading the Bible myself lately and have increasingly turned in the direction of faith. I'm not at the point where I can devote myself religiously, but so far I've also noticed the fundamental truth of the doctrine. I just finished Leviticus - many relevant passages.

14If, however, you fail to obey Me and to carry out all these commandments,
15and if you reject My statutes, despise My ordinances, and neglect to carry out all My commandments, and so break My covenant,
16then this is what I will do to you: I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting disease, and fever that will destroy your sight and drain your life. You will sow your seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it.
17And I will set My face against you, so that you will be defeated by your enemies. Those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee when no one pursues you.


I certainly am not to the point to distinguish between sects and claim allegiance with any one particular, but I tend to be repelled from Gnosticism and Islam due to the nature of their metaphysical presuppositions (@IntolerantSocialist - I haven't read the Koran, but I've heard Islam compared w/ Spinoza) and, more than anything, the bearing of their followers. The mantle of a religion is carried by its adherents and their conduct a test of its worth. Gnosticism is superficially appealing in its hatred of the material world, but, in "renunciation", Gnostic orders would often degenerate into orgies similar to Hippie/Hollywood Satanic shit. The "based" gibs me dat Islamist ookpillers at .co are another good example. Would things be any better under their hand where you're robbed openly instead of insidiously under secular liberalism?

@DeformAspergerCel - I need to read more about the National Socialists and Christianity. As I understand it, there was a lot of scorn directed toward it in certain quarters (namely Himmler), while many recognized its fundamental importance in shaping the national spirit (Rosenberg, Goebbels).
 

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you're evil as the demons that haunt you
forgetting what it was that they taught you
but now there's no one left to stop you
or to catch you when you when you when you

when your blood-shot your eyes drop
and the skin's all wearing thin
there's no one here to tell you about the depth of the water
or the trouble that you're in
you're dancin' with your demons baby
you forgot your former lie
and it was hard swimmin' once
and now you're daily divin' in
 
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I got curious about this band's background and dug around a bit.

If anyone's curious as to what they actually sound like, you can find their full-length Forty Acre Fugue here.

I also found a demo posted here that links the amateurish and dull sound on their first split single from 1990 to the much more developed one on their full-length from 1994.

Unfortunately, as with a lot of people erstwhile involved in US Punk/Noise Rock/Metal, one of the band members is now a huge soy cuck. Ominous and disappointing that the music I grew up with was made almost entirely by a sty of soft, brainwashed libertines.

None of the members ever did much outside of this band musically it appears.

@IntolerantSocialist



Ah nice, I've heard Wrong and Aluk Todolo before. Have to check out the rest.

Re: Christianity, I've been reading the Bible myself lately and have increasingly turned in the direction of faith. I'm not at the point where I can devote myself religiously, but so far I've also noticed the fundamental truth of the doctrine. I just finished Leviticus - many relevant passages.

14If, however, you fail to obey Me and to carry out all these commandments,
15and if you reject My statutes, despise My ordinances, and neglect to carry out all My commandments, and so break My covenant,
16then this is what I will do to you: I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting disease, and fever that will destroy your sight and drain your life. You will sow your seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it.
17And I will set My face against you, so that you will be defeated by your enemies. Those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee when no one pursues you.


I certainly am not to the point to distinguish between sects and claim allegiance with any one particular, but I tend to be repelled from Gnosticism and Islam due to the nature of their metaphysical presuppositions (@IntolerantSocialist - I haven't read the Koran, but I've heard Islam compared w/ Spinoza) and, more than anything, the bearing of their followers. The mantle of a religion is carried by its adherents and their conduct a test of its worth. Gnosticism is superficially appealing in its hatred of the material world, but, in "renunciation", Gnostic orders would often degenerate into orgies similar to Hippie/Hollywood Satanic shit. The "based" gibs me dat Islamist ookpillers at .co are another good example. Would things be any better under their hand where you're robbed openly instead of insidiously under secular liberalism?

@DeformAspergerCel - I need to read more about the National Socialists and Christianity. As I understand it, there was a lot of scorn directed toward it in certain quarters (namely Himmler), while many recognized its fundamental importance in shaping the national spirit (Rosenberg, Goebbels).
a lot of AmRep bands did a film soundtrack for (((Al Goldstein))), kike porn producer. shame. you should read how he feels about Christian Europeans. also the Gnosticism I follow is Marcionism, who disliked jews, and wasn't into orgies. he was the OG. Islam, my fondness for it stems from all the shit liberals turn a blind eye to, like honor killings, heretic killings, terrorism/concept of jihad (holy war). there is also a difference between Gnostics who are Luciferian to Gnostic Christians. I for one, like Jesus. and yes I do believe he was sort of a Socialist. I bet you most Islamists at .co are Sunni heretics and not based Sufi or Shiite orders.
 
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if you speak of modern cucked Gnosticism, its Kabballah, that's jewish (((gnosticism))). nothing to do with Christ.
that's a really good band. sheesh, the hessians are coming out of the woodwork the last few days
Himmler also tried killing Hitler (so he could take the throne of the NSDAP himself) and actual Himmlerists exist.
 
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@DeformAspergerCel - I need to read more about the National Socialists and Christianity. As I understand it, there was a lot of scorn directed toward it in certain quarters (namely Himmler), while many recognized its fundamental importance in shaping the national spirit (Rosenberg, Goebbels).
I would say that's generally correct. The NSDAP didn't by any means hold christianity in holy regards, but saw it as a vehicle for national unity, as you say. Hitler was also a politician and therefore had to bargain with his largely christian conservative base, and so that put some restraint on his actual view of Christianity. He did approve of Rosenberg's work though, so it's likely that he desired a long term transition away from Christianity, while also retaining some of its core elements, integrating it into a larger Germanic framework. I wouldn't necessarily say any of the people within Hitler's cabinet viewed Christianity with contempt. As for your point about Himmler, let's not forget that he was also a great admirer of the Christian order the Teutonic Knights and modeled the SS on it. The supposed hostility that the head of the NSDAP had for Christianity has largely been exaggerated in a deliberate propaganda campaign to turn what would've otherwise been sympathetic traditionalist Christians away from dangerous ideas

 

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a lot of AmRep bands did a film soundtrack for (((Al Goldstein))), kike porn producer. shame. you should read how he feels about Christian Europeans. also the Gnosticism I follow is Marcionism, who disliked jews, and wasn't into orgies. he was the OG. Islam, my fondness for it stems from all the shit liberals turn a blind eye to, like honor killings, heretic killings, terrorism/concept of jihad (holy war). there is also a difference between Gnostics who are Luciferian to Gnostic Christians. I for one, like Jesus. and yes I do believe he was sort of a Socialist. I bet you most Islamists at .co are Sunni heretics and not based Sufi or Shiite orders.
Must have been this one:


Makes sense honestly. That whole crowd was very much emblematic of standard Murgurn tits and beer Rock n Roll typical of the non-religious but spiritually evangelical in the late part of the 20th century. Implicitly Zionist and philosemitic, the weight of the US military-industrial complex and the sacralized free market hangs over the scene (Hazelmeyer was in the Marines, Melvins are libertarians, etc.) I wouldn't expect anyone who played in one of those bands to have any reservations about either porn or Juden.

It's an honest representation of the Midwestern US though tbh. Sounds like the atmosphere in that part of the country like nothing else and was fittingly created by very typical representatives of the region (usually either the middling punk rocker turned cosmopolitan soy cuck lawyer/humanities grad student/librarian or the Middle American garage band libertarian - latter is still preferable to the former, all things considered).

Still need to read many more religious texts. I'll eventually read the Koran, probably more about the gnostics too.

As to the ookpillers at .co, they're definitely all Sunni. I've never seen a Shi'ite, an Alawite, etc. From my limited encounters with Islam as a whole though, it seems rather like an expressly quasi-political ideology and effectively an instrument of Arabization. Every predominantly Muslim country has been Arabized to a degree - Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia. Guenon took an Arabic name after he converted to Sufism, Arabic is considered the sole legitimate language of the prophecy, hierarchies within Islamist organizations with other populations usually serving as cannon fodder e.g. Uyghers. It doesn't strike me as possible to truly develop (even preserve) one's own culture and introduce Islam - or even major elements of it - at the same time.

As to the question of keeping sympathies with independent nations, that's another matter. I am enthusiastic about Iran and Syria (the former is fairly unique in the Middle East in having a good deal of religious pluralism and tolerance), but I'm also wary of applying too much significance to the Judenfrage. Jews are a people to whom most ascribe far too little significance, but to whom the Right is often guilty of applying too much. Don't lose sight of the fact that many others are enemies just as craven and rapacious, only less competent. This is why I'm usually skeptical of "based anti-Zionist alliances" and the like. I ultimately don't trust Sunni ookpillers or the broader political systems they represent either.

I would say that's generally correct. The NSDAP didn't by any means hold christianity in holy regards, but saw it as a vehicle for national unity, as you say. Hitler was also a politician and therefore had to bargain with his largely christian conservative base, and so that put some restraint on his actual view of Christianity. He did approve of Rosenberg's work though, so it's likely that he desired a long term transition away from Christianity, while also retaining some of its core elements, integrating it into a larger Germanic framework. I wouldn't necessarily say any of the people within Hitler's cabinet viewed Christianity with contempt. As for your point about Himmler, let's not forget that he was also a great admirer of the Christian order the Teutonic Knights and modeled the SS on it. The supposed hostility that the head of the NSDAP had for Christianity has largely been exaggerated in a deliberate propaganda campaign to turn what would've otherwise been sympathetic traditionalist Christians away from dangerous ideas

No question. The Third Reich is a topic one definitely has to dig into deeply to get the truth. Few things are enveloped by a haze of obfuscation quite like the events and ideas surrounding WWII.

I've got to do serious reading about National Socialist philosophies and political ambitions tbh. I've mostly only read on Italian Fascism and some of its important precursors (bits of Proudhon, Sorel, and Pareto). Bolshevism too from my bored and wavering politics-as-industrial-esthetic days.
 
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I've got to do serious reading about National Socialist philosophies and political ambitions tbh. I've mostly only read on Italian Fascism and some of its important precursors (bits of Proudhon, Sorel, and Pareto). Bolshevism too from my bored and wavering politics-as-industrial-esthetic days.
Yeah, I've got to do more reading up on fascism myself. I'm currently finishing up on Nietzsche and intend on reading Spengler next. Any recommendations?
 

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Yeah, I've got to do more reading up on fascism myself. I'm currently finishing up on Nietzsche and intend on reading Spengler next. Any recommendations?
What did you read of Nietzsche? A couple years back, I went through The Birth of Tragedy, On the Genealogy of Morals, Beyond Good and Evil, and Ecce Homo (all neutered Kaufmann translations however). Spengler is outstanding. I read Decline of the West (his major work, definitely start here) last year - some passages are absolutely flooring for their insight. Be aware that it might take a long time to make it through the full 1,000 pages though. Once you're done there, I'd read Yockey (takes up Spengler's mantle and applies it to the concept of a possible post-WWII national movement); I still have to actually. For pure philosophy, Schopenhauer is a good choice, especially since he was precursor of Nietzsche (though the latter does famously break with his thought). Maybe some essays out of Parerga and Paralipomena rather than a whole work like The World as Will and Representation. Famous misogynist as well. Influential figure for many nationalists from Wagner to Hitler.

@IntolerantSocialist definitely knows this field well. He should have a lot of stuff to recommend as far as Third Position political philosophy.

If you want lighter reading, pick up something by Michel Houellebecq. The Elementary Particles is incredible. He's somewhat famous for his diagnosis of modern inceldom.
 

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wasn't Michel hated by universally everyone? he was hated because he told the truth.
Must have been this one:


Makes sense honestly. That whole crowd was very much emblematic of standard Murgurn tits and beer Rock n Roll typical of the non-religious but spiritually evangelical in the late part of the 20th century. Implicitly Zionist and philosemitic, the weight of the US military-industrial complex and the sacralized free market hangs over the scene (Hazelmeyer was in the Marines, Melvins are libertarians, etc.) I wouldn't expect anyone who played in one of those bands to have any reservations about either porn or Juden.

It's an honest representation of the Midwestern US though tbh. Sounds like the atmosphere in that part of the country like nothing else and was fittingly created by very typical representatives of the region (usually either the middling punk rocker turned cosmopolitan soy cuck lawyer/humanities grad student/librarian or the Middle American garage band libertarian - latter is still preferable to the former, all things considered).

Still need to read many more religious texts. I'll eventually read the Koran, probably more about the gnostics too.

As to the ookpillers at .co, they're definitely all Sunni. I've never seen a Shi'ite, an Alawite, etc. From my limited encounters with Islam as a whole though, it seems rather like an expressly quasi-political ideology and effectively an instrument of Arabization. Every predominantly Muslim country has been Arabized to a degree - Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia. Guenon took an Arabic name after he converted to Sufism, Arabic is considered the sole legitimate language of the prophecy, hierarchies within Islamist organizations with other populations usually serving as cannon fodder e.g. Uyghers. It doesn't strike me as possible to truly develop (even preserve) one's own culture and introduce Islam - or even major elements of it - at the same time.

As to the question of keeping sympathies with independent nations, that's another matter. I am enthusiastic about Iran and Syria (the former is fairly unique in the Middle East in having a good deal of religious pluralism and tolerance), but I'm also wary of applying too much significance to the Judenfrage. Jews are a people to whom most ascribe far too little significance, but to whom the Right is often guilty of applying too much. Don't lose sight of the fact that many others are enemies just as craven and rapacious, only less competent. This is why I'm usually skeptical of "based anti-Zionist alliances" and the like. I ultimately don't trust Sunni ookpillers or the broader political systems they represent either.



No question. The Third Reich is a topic one definitely has to dig into deeply to get the truth. Few things are enveloped by a haze of obfuscation quite like the events and ideas surrounding WWII.

I've got to do serious reading about National Socialist philosophies and political ambitions tbh. I've mostly only read on Italian Fascism and some of its important precursors (bits of Proudhon, Sorel, and Pareto). Bolshevism too from my bored and wavering politics-as-industrial-esthetic days.
a lot of people went soy around here so they blackballed me out of the scene for not being conformist.

but I thought the idea of non-conformity was punk rock....I guess not....hmmmmm
I was talking about Schopenhauer earlier. he had a famous quote, and I see it play out the past five or so years

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

in many different forms. btw how does this disagree with Hegel's dialectical system. Schope and Hegel hated each other but for what reason?
Spengler to me is pure historicism. its not a bad tendency but it makes his point draw out too far.
 
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What did you read of Nietzsche? A couple years back, I went through The Birth of Tragedy, On the Genealogy of Morals, Beyond Good and Evil, and Ecce Homo (all neutered Kaufmann translations however). Spengler is outstanding. I read Decline of the West (his major work, definitely start here) last year - some passages are absolutely flooring for their insight. Be aware that it might take a long time to make it through the full 1,000 pages though. Once you're done there, I'd read Yockey (takes up Spengler's mantle and applies it to the concept of a possible post-WWII national movement); I still have to actually. For pure philosophy, Schopenhauer is a good choice, especially since he was precursor of Nietzsche (though the latter does famously break with his thought). Maybe some essays out of Parerga and Paralipomena rather than a whole work like The World as Will and Representation. Famous misogynist as well. Influential figure for many nationalists from Wagner to Hitler.

@IntolerantSocialist definitely knows this field well. He should have a lot of stuff to recommend as far as Third Position political philosophy.

If you want lighter reading, pick up something by Michel Houellebecq. The Elementary Particles is incredible. He's somewhat famous for his diagnosis of modern inceldom.
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The will to Power and thus spoke Zarathustra. Might read beyond good and evil and the antichrist too (real life friend who's an openly self identifying National Socialist recommended the latter to me)
 

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I'm not the fondest of Nietzsche but he has his place.
I don't agree with all of Nietzsche's writing or everything I've read of him, but he's certainly an intelligent man with worthwhile perspectives to consider

 

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gotta disagree with your sig but still for the stormcels here:

 

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/doomer/
 

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It's harsh noise industrial it's not supposed to. Been doing it since 2006-7. Sort of an infamous legend in the scene. It's my cross to bear
 

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