[LifeFuel] Just came from the ortho 4.5 months into facepulling + expanding.

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more like if a herbst and a lingual wire had a child :LOL::LOL: but def not a herbst
this kind of appliance works at 24!!! skeletal or alveolar bone change?

For your upper your not using mse?
 
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What type of anchorage did you use? Did your bizygomatic width widen? Your midface? Your IPD? At what angle did you facepull and did your midface shorten whatsoever?

@Hades got like 8mm wider bizygomatic width from expanding at 18 iirc.
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Bro, we should give this stuff a try. Even if we got implants it'd look fake and gay cause it's not fixing actual bone
Messaging you x
 
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Took some measurements, my mouth corners are further apart thus i have a wider mouth , had no tipping whatsoever went from 37mm to 43mm imw, taking a 1-2 month break right now to let the lower jaw catch up.
Most promising thing my mew line went from 50mm to 48mm, and my rammus is longer all indicating rotation of the lower jaw.

im 23 btw
Can somebody please explain this to me, cause I didnt quite understand ( except that apparently its life fuel)
 
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Can somebody please explain this to me, cause I didnt quite understand ( except that apparently its life fuel)
His palate expanded and the most important part is that his maxilla came forwards 2mm (1/3rd of a lefort in under 5 months at age 23 is amazing too), and his jaw also came forward (probably) giving him a better ramus and more forward grown and upswung jaw
 
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His palate expanded and the most important part is that his maxilla came forwards 2mm (1/3rd of a lefort in under 5 months at age 23 is amazing too), and his jaw also came forward (probably) giving him a better ramus and more forward grown and upswung jaw
Well damn that's so cool. So you think I could achieve some good results with just the face puller?
 
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Op did you get MSE and use it as an anchor instead of expanding?
 
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yes his maxilla and jaw forward growth changes had nothing to do with the expander, just puller
Jesus christ mate God bless u for the life fuel
 
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Took some measurements, my mouth corners are further apart thus i have a wider mouth , had no tipping whatsoever went from 37mm to 43mm imw, taking a 1-2 month break right now to let the lower jaw catch up.
Most promising thing my mew line went from 50mm to 48mm, and my rammus is longer all indicating rotation of the lower jaw.

im 23 btw
Lifefuel bro
 
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Seems like I'll have to go under invasive surgeries to correct my asymmetrical face then.
He FacePulled without bone anchoring. If you pull from a weakened suture directly from the bone you can expect much drastic changes in facial symmetry
 
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this kind of appliance works at 24!!! skeletal or alveolar bone change?

For your upper your not using mse?
Op did you get MSE and use it as an anchor instead of expanding?
Its based on mse, but its not mse, it has screws like mse, my ortho doesnt always use screw appliances thou , he uses an adapted version of hyrax too and he achieved rly good results aswell, like he decreased the mew line by 4mm on a 27 year old patient( her best result ). Only xrays will 100% tell it, however everything in my face looks wider, besides the lower jaw( cause it doesnt have sutures ) , philtrum width was the most common and apparent one mentioned even by other people, thn there are thing like cheeckbones being more flanged, maybe a sligther deeper nasion , however changes in this are are more subtle and outside people wont probably notice them from the getgo , like if i expanded my maxilla 6 mms like i did i will probably add 6mms to my philtrum in terms of width but in terms of cheeckbones i might only get 30% of that making it less noticeable
 
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Its based on mse, but its not mse, it has screws like mse, my ortho doesnt always use screw appliances thou , he uses an adapted version of hyrax too and he achieved rly good results aswell, like he decreased the mew line by 4mm on a 27 year old patient( her best result ). Only xrays will 100% tell it, however everything in my face looks wider, besides the lower jaw( cause it doesnt have sutures ) , philtrum width was the most common and apparent one mentioned even by other people, thn there are thing like cheeckbones being more flanged, maybe a sligther deeper nasion , however changes in this are are more subtle and outside people wont probably notice them from the getgo , like if i expanded my maxilla 6 mms like i did i will probably add 6mms to my philtrum in terms of width but in terms of cheeckbones i might only get 30% of that making it less noticeable
LIFE FUEL, FUCK
 
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Its based on mse, but its not mse, it has screws like mse, my ortho doesnt always use screw appliances thou , he uses an adapted version of hyrax too and he achieved rly good results aswell, like he decreased the mew line by 4mm on a 27 year old patient( her best result ). Only xrays will 100% tell it, however everything in my face looks wider, besides the lower jaw( cause it doesnt have sutures ) , philtrum width was the most common and apparent one mentioned even by other people, thn there are thing like cheeckbones being more flanged, maybe a sligther deeper nasion , however changes in this are are more subtle and outside people wont probably notice them from the getgo , like if i expanded my maxilla 6 mms like i did i will probably add 6mms to my philtrum in terms of width but in terms of cheeckbones i might only get 30% of that making it less noticeable
Add 6mm to the Philitrum? Does that mean you’ll have a longer philitrum?
 
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Add 6mm to the Philitrum? Does that mean you’ll have a longer philitrum?
No
Ye its scuffed editing, but the point his the area above the lips is wider , which makes sense since my mouth is wider, people that have narrow mouths all have a narrow philtrum too, like the other guy
 

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Ye its scuffed editing, but the point his the area above the lips is wider , which makes sense since my mouth is wider, people that have narrow mouths all have a narrow philtrum too, like the other guy
Ah so its basically just proportionally expanding with the mouth?
 
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Ah so its basically just proportionally expanding with the mouth?
Yes, will have my next appointment in 6 weeks and will updated in everything, the major if atm is can the lower jaw catch up, cause if it doesnt i cant expand the upper h«jaw more or the bite becomes off, which sucks cause i would like to go all the way to 50mm like our ancestors but at this point it seems ver unrealistic. Ive been protracting my maxilla so far about 1mm every 2 months, im also curious if i can keep it up or if im going to hit a plateau.
 
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this guy is gonna be next jordan Barrett lol. did ur eyes become more narrower? did the cheekbones come more forward?
 
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Took some measurements, my mouth corners are further apart thus i have a wider mouth , had no tipping whatsoever went from 37mm to 43mm imw, taking a 1-2 month break right now to let the lower jaw catch up.
Most promising thing my mew line went from 50mm to 48mm, and my rammus is longer all indicating rotation of the lower jaw.

im 23 btw
Did you jaw get wider ?
 
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Where did you get that? thx
 
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hard to say, however my lower arch seems to finally be expanding after adding the lower jaw wire and using the bands 20hrs+/day

probably not, cheeckbones have more volume ye

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i meant what country
 
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Its based on mse, but its not mse, it has screws like mse, my ortho doesnt always use screw appliances thou , he uses an adapted version of hyrax too and he achieved rly good results aswell, like he decreased the mew line by 4mm on a 27 year old patient( her best result ). Only xrays will 100% tell it, however everything in my face looks wider, besides the lower jaw( cause it doesnt have sutures ) , philtrum width was the most common and apparent one mentioned even by other people, thn there are thing like cheeckbones being more flanged, maybe a sligther deeper nasion , however changes in this are are more subtle and outside people wont probably notice them from the getgo , like if i expanded my maxilla 6 mms like i did i will probably add 6mms to my philtrum in terms of width but in terms of cheeckbones i might only get 30% of that making it less noticeable
Please PM me your ortho
 
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Is your midface shorter now?
 
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Which country and how much it costed you? I am interested as fuck
 
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Is your midface shorter now?
The distance between the tip of my nose and incisors is shorter so yes in theory my midface appears and is shorter.

For all the people asking about my ortho she doesnt take international patients atm, unless u live in portugal dont bother.
 
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hard to say, however my lower arch seems to finally be expanding after adding the lower jaw wire and using the bands 20hrs+/day

probably not, cheeckbones have more volume ye

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Damn mate. Do you have a pic of the contraption? And also do you believe that lower jaw expansion is possible non surgically?
 
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Yes, will have my next appointment in 6 weeks and will updated in everything
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Also is this bone-anchored facepulling, or just regular facepulling like @nelson is doing?
 
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Bumo

Also is this bone-anchored facepulling, or just regular facepulling like @nelson is doing?
I dn rd but it is most likely toothanchored
 
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I didnt its his protocol , he said lower jaw appliance is vital for keeping jaws shut and using more force vectors , pulling at the back of the lower jaw downwards rotates the jaw, lenghens the rammus and shortens the midface. * In Theory *
what is this lower jaw appliance called?
 
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Yes, will have my next appointment in 6 weeks and will updated in everything, the major if atm is can the lower jaw catch up, cause if it doesnt i cant expand the upper h«jaw more or the bite becomes off, which sucks cause i would like to go all the way to 50mm like our ancestors but at this point it seems ver unrealistic. Ive been protracting my maxilla so far about 1mm every 2 months, im also curious if i can keep it up or if im going to hit a plateau.
Can you make an update? Some further results of facepulling?
 
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