[Leak] OVER FOR UK-CELS: "Great Britain is practically standing on her knees working on a trade agreement with the US"

[Deleted member 773]

TLDR: Once brexit takes place, the UK will be importing ALL of it's meat products from the US. (shitty processed food) The US talks to britain like it's a 3rd world country, and facebook/google will now have full access to people's personal data in the UK and can legally sell it.

Reddit just made a post telling it's users to downvote content like this, and are coping by saying it's a russian operation with no proof. Astroturf it to the front page.

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I suspect that this publication will make some noise, so that's why you probably don't have much time to look through the internal secret documents that contain specific details of the upcoming FTA between the UK and the USA.

Three years, six bilateral meetings of the UK-US Trade and Investment Working Group (TIWG), 12 chapter-level discussions, 451 pages of reports. A detailed analysis and processing of such an amount of material will require a lot of time, knowledge and definitely more than one pair of eyes, so I'm dumping this here.

OFFICIAL-SENSITIVE UK-US TIWG FULL READOUT

The fact that the British Parliament was suspended by Her Majesty for five weeks at the request of the Prime Minister right before the next deadline makes this publication the last attempt to effectively counter the scenario of Britain leaving the EU without making a deal with Brussels.

From now on, it is no longer a secret who is pushing the UK government to no-deal Brexit:

USTR were also clear that the UK-EU situation would be determinative: there would be all to play for in a No Deal situation but UK commitment to the Customs Union and Single Market would make a UK-U.S. FTA a non-starter.

Document 6, page 2

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The most notable step towards the signing of the agreement, as expected, will be the UK rejection of EU sanitary and phytosanitary standards, which means that chlorinated chicken from American farmers can get to Britain by Christmas:

• The US are very concerned at the contents of the Chequers statement. They were "deflated" and see harmonisation with the EU SPS regime as the "worst-case scenario" for a UK-US FTA.
• The US see SPS as the biggest 'sticking point' on risk (what they see as the 'global norm') vs the EU's hazard-based approach on mainly pesticides, veterinary drugs and pathogen reduction treatments.
• On transparency and equivalence the UK not remaining in the EU but subject to the EU rules will be more of an issue for the US than the UK just being in the EU, as we can no longer be a back door for US products and no longer influence EU rules. An example the US shared would be if they (the US) lodged a complaint against the UK under the terms of the FTA, the UK would not have the autonomy to address the said complaint under the Chequers proposal.

Document 4, page 25

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British citizens will inevitably face a sharp decline in the quality of imported food products. The United States is strongly determined to expand markets thus placing UK in 'take it or leave it' position:

[Wine Agreement] The most challenging element was the discussion on traditional terms. The US do not want to accept our continuity approach, even for a no deal text. They described the position, whilst referring to the issues with the EU, as "the disease spreading". This may require political escalation. The UK will send over the latest Wine Agreement text following this call. We are about 90% agreed.

Document 5, page 51

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Cornering the victim, the US is clearly not going to limit itself to ensuring its own interests solely within the UK:

Another priority for the Administration was dealing with common global problems, particularly China. The US had commenced an investigation on overcapacity of steel and aluminium vis-a-vis China, the outcome of which would be a standard through which to protect other industry (semiconductors, solar panels etc.). An important element of positive agendas with the UK and the EU would be shared action on China. On the Trade in Service Agreement (TISA) the Administration recognised the potential to come back to table, but no decision had been made to date.

Document 2, page 7

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After reading the documents, there should be no doubt who is speaking in these negotiations from a position of strength and who is on the receiving end. The language and the tone in which negotiations are held sometimes give the impression that the second side of the process is not Great Britain, but a third world country:

e) The US is willing to offer the UK 2 spots of the 50 in the Central California tour for ACE 10
f) Anyone who attends must be able to provide something. "Move the needle or you don't get to come back"

Document 3, page 15

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What can we say about respect for the citizens of the Kingdom if in the new trading space they still have to prove their competence?

...in TTIP the US repeatedly said that they would like to recognise the UK's professions but they could not trust standards in all EU countries.

Document 3, page 22

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The United Kingdom will also be asked to reconsider their policy towards legal protection of personal data. Cooperation is out of the question while GDPR stands in the way of American corporations like Facebook and Google.

RT also explained that the US has had some specific concerns with how GDPR is being implemented. The EU has acknowledged GDPR has a global impact and other countries are going to have opinions.
RT stated that the US will want to engage with the UK on the best approach around its future international transfers model, but understands there are still internal discussions in the UK on this. The US are proponents of APEC-CBPR model which is based around individual companies rather than whole legal systems [...] The UK and US could work together on an inclusive system [...] A mapping exercise took place mapping CBPR against the EU corporate rules system, and it was discovered that while there were differences, they were not as extensive as one would presume. Some countries have used the same set of information to get both approvals under both systems [...]
It would be useful to understand the impact on companies of unintended consequences of bringing GDPR in to play on hybrid data.

Document 4, page 23

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Based on the content of these documents, we can now imagine what a terrible price Britain will have to pay to conclude a free trade agreement with the United States - from betraying partners and the interests of own citizens to betraying her national policies.

 

[Blackout.xl]

Britain is fucked.

Stay in the EU = stay in a union going down a path of mass centralization. Also forced to accept cheap labour from Eastern Europe while British billionaires can freely move their capital throughout the continent

Leave the EU= fucked in the ass for trade deals and lose agency on the world stage

TLDR: Once brexit takes place, the UK will be importing ALL of it's meat products from the US. (shitty processed food) The US talks to britain like it's a 3rd world country, and facebook/google will now have full access to people's personal data in the UK and can legally sell it.

Reddit just made a post telling it's users to downvote content like this, and are coping by saying it's a russian operation with no proof. Astroturf it to the front page.

Reddit thread:



Full leak:
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I suspect that this publication will make some noise, so that's why you probably don't have much time to look through the internal secret documents that contain specific details of the upcoming FTA between the UK and the USA.

Three years, six bilateral meetings of the UK-US Trade and Investment Working Group (TIWG), 12 chapter-level discussions, 451 pages of reports. A detailed analysis and processing of such an amount of material will require a lot of time, knowledge and definitely more than one pair of eyes, so I'm dumping this here.

OFFICIAL-SENSITIVE UK-US TIWG FULL READOUT

The fact that the British Parliament was suspended by Her Majesty for five weeks at the request of the Prime Minister right before the next deadline makes this publication the last attempt to effectively counter the scenario of Britain leaving the EU without making a deal with Brussels.

From now on, it is no longer a secret who is pushing the UK government to no-deal Brexit:


Document 6, page 2

Full document



The most notable step towards the signing of the agreement, as expected, will be the UK rejection of EU sanitary and phytosanitary standards, which means that chlorinated chicken from American farmers can get to Britain by Christmas:


Document 4, page 25

Full document



British citizens will inevitably face a sharp decline in the quality of imported food products. The United States is strongly determined to expand markets thus placing UK in 'take it or leave it' position:


Document 5, page 51

Full document



Cornering the victim, the US is clearly not going to limit itself to ensuring its own interests solely within the UK:


Document 2, page 7

Full document



After reading the documents, there should be no doubt who is speaking in these negotiations from a position of strength and who is on the receiving end. The language and the tone in which negotiations are held sometimes give the impression that the second side of the process is not Great Britain, but a third world country:


Document 3, page 15

Full document



What can we say about respect for the citizens of the Kingdom if in the new trading space they still have to prove their competence?


Document 3, page 22

Full document



The United Kingdom will also be asked to reconsider their policy towards legal protection of personal data. Cooperation is out of the question while GDPR stands in the way of American corporations like Facebook and Google.


Document 4, page 23

Full document



Based on the content of these documents, we can now imagine what a terrible price Britain will have to pay to conclude a free trade agreement with the United States - from betraying partners and the interests of own citizens to betraying her national policies.

@LordNorwood @disillusioned

 

[Noodlewhore]

The solution is France and Macron

 

[Deleted member 616]

Britain is fucked.

Stay in the EU = stay in a union going down a path of mass centralization. Also forced to accept cheap labour from Eastern Europe while British billionaires can freely move their capital throughout the continent

Leave the EU= fucked in the ass for trade deals and lose agency on the world stage

@LordNorwood @disillusioned

Karma for colonizing the whole world buddy boyo

 

[Blackout.xl]

The solution is France and Macron

Macron is Hated. He’s a globalist pawn

 

[LordNorwood]

Who tf says "standing on your knees" instead of "kneeling"

 

[Deleted member 773]

Who tf says "standing on your knees" instead of "kneeling"

It sounds cool

 

[Deleted member 656]

Ship me somewhere east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
Where there aren't no Ten Commandments and a man can raise a thirst;
For the temple-bells are calling, and it's there that I would be
By the old Moulmein Pagoda, looking lazy at the sea;
On the road to Mandalay,
Where the old Flotilla lay,
With our sick beneath the awnings when we went to Mandalay
On the road to Mandalay,
Where the flying-fishes play,
And the dawn comes up like thunder out of China across the Bay

 

[rockndogs]

politics in 2020 jfl

Just ldar

 

[Deleted member 773]

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