Losing bodyfat even if you are skinny

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Is it a good idea? Im 85kg rn and my optimal weight is 90-100. Should i train for another year and then lose bf? Or lose bf now and build up muscles until i reach my optimal weight?

 

[Deleted member 656]

85 kg is very heavy

 

[EverythingMaxxer]

You could do a mini cut or try to maintain weight while gaining muscle and losing fat before lean bulking.

 

[.👽.]

85 kg is very heavy

Nah i look skinny, a lil bit athletic

 

[Deleted member 656]

Nah i look skinny, a lil bit athletic

How tall are you?

 

[Chico Chicowski]

its all depends on
- are still horny/sex driven at low bf?
- do you have bones? i personlly look better a littble bit bloated cause my GONIAL ANGLE is too high (this is the key)
- are you going after MILF (being huge jacked) or slim teenagers (low bf prettyboy)

 

[.👽.]

You could do a mini cut or try to maintain weight while gaining muscle and losing fat before lean bulking.

So u mean eat at my calorie maintenance and train? Would this help tho

How tall are you?

Idk 190 or 192 cm

 

[Pietrosiek]

85 kg is very heavy

Lol. If youre 6ft and more its average weight. Heavy is 100 or something

 

[EverythingMaxxer]

So u mean eat at my calorie maintenance and train? Would this help tho

Yes, you actually can gain muscle and lose fat while weighing the same but everything has to be on point and you have to be closer to a beginner. And it won’t last long maybe 8-12 weeks I think.

 

[Deleted member 656]

Lol. If youre 6ft and more its average weight. Heavy is 100 or something

Yeah, but the average person isn't low body fat.

Idk 190 or 192 cm

Pre-gymcelling you'd expect a 10% body fat guy at that height to be something like 140 - 150 lbs.

 

[.👽.]

Pre-gymcelling you'd expect a 10% body fat guy at that height to be something like 140 - 150 lbs.

150 lbs? Thats like 70kg? Thats too skinny bro

This guy is 6'4 and 95kg(210 lbs) with low bf. Thats optimal for me. But my question is, if i should bulk now and cut later, or cut now and LEAN bulk after

 

[Pietrosiek]

Yeah, but the average person isn't low body fat

85 kgs is not heavy. For you at 6'4 heavy would be like 110kg

 

[.👽.]

85 kgs is not heavy. For you at 6'4 heavy would be like 110kg

Depends if its fat or muscle

 

[Deleted member 656]

150 lbs? Thats like 70kg? Thats too skinny bro

Yeah it is, but if you aren't gymcelled you're not lean at 85 kg. That'd be over a year of lifting.

85 kgs is not heavy. For you at 6'4 heavy would be like 110kg

85 kg without any muscle mass would be something like 20-25% body fat on a non-gymcelled 6'4" dude.

By heavy I mean high body fat.

 

[.👽.]

Yeah it is, but if you aren't gymcelled you're not lean at 85 kg. That'd be over a year of lifting.


85 kg without any muscle mass would be something like 20-25% body fat on a non-gymcelled 6'4" dude.

By heavy I mean high body fat.

Im training since last last january. I was very skinny back then and i dirty bulked so hard. I have ~20% bf now

 

[Deleted member 656]

Im training since last last january. I was very skinny back then and i dirty bulked so hard. I have ~20% bf now

That sounds about right.

 

[Pietrosiek]

Yeah it is, but if you aren't gymcelled you're not lean at 85 kg. That'd be over a year of lifting.


85 kg without any muscle mass would be something like 20-25% body fat on a non-gymcelled 6'4" dude.

By heavy I mean high body fat.

Cope 85kg at 6'4 is average. 90kg is minimum

 

[Deleted member 656]

Cope 85kg at 6'4 is average. 90kg is minimum

Average guy is higher body fat with some muscle development, so yes.

 

[Pietrosiek]

Average guy is higher body fat with some muscle development, so yes.

This is 90-93 kg at 6'4.and Hes skinny

 

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So whats should i do now

This is 90-93 kg at 6'4.and Hes skinny
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Look at the pic i posted bro. 90-95kg muscle is perfect. Not skinny

 

[195cm]

This is 90-93 kg at 6'4.and Hes skinny
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He is max 85kg

 

[Deleted member 656]

This is 90-93 kg at 6'4.and Hes skinny
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Don't believe he's over 185 lbs.

 

[Pietrosiek]

He is max 85kg

Dude he fight at 84 kg. Hes cutting at leas 6kgs if not 8-10. This is 100kgs at 6'4 of Jon jones

Don't believe he's over 185 lbs.

He is. If he wasnt he would fight at 170.

 

[goat2x]

Dude he fight at 84 kg. Hes cutting at leas 6kgs if not 8-10. This is 100kgs at 6'4 of Jon jones
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He is. If he wasnt he would fight at 170.

fucking gorilla arm lenght, this low iq negro indeed born to fight

 

[Pietrosiek]

fucking gorilla arm lenght, this low iq negro indeed born to fight

Goat of mma imo

 

[Deleted member 656]

Dude he fight at 84 kg. Hes cutting at leas 6kgs if not 8-10. This is 100kgs at 6'4 of Jon jones
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He is. If he wasnt he would fight at 170.

Looks a lot bigger in that picture.

There's no way that's skinny.

Skinny is young Chico

~6'3" and no more than 160 lbs

Or Lil Peep

~6'2" and probably 145 lbs range

 

[Alexanderr]

85 kg is very heavy

Depends on how tall he is.

 

[Pietrosiek]

Looks a lot bigger in that picture.

There's no way that's skinny.

Skinny is young Chico

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~6'3" and no more than 160 lbs

Or Lil Peep

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~6'2" and probably 145 lbs range

Thats other dude. First is adesanya. 2nd is Jon jones. Chico is skinny af. Adesanya is called skinny af. I weight 75kg at 6'1.5 and im skeleton tier.

 

[Deleted member 656]

I weight 75kg at 6'1.5 and im skeleton tier.

More to do with fat distribution than the weight itself.

I looked skinny in clothes at 200 lbs because all my fat is around my waist and upper back.

But you're not legit 'skinny' unless you're sub 12% body fat.

 

[Pietrosiek]

More to do with fat distribution than the weight itself.

I looked skinny in clothes at 200 lbs because all my fat is around my waist and upper back.

But you're not legit 'skinny' unless you're sub 12% body fat.

no. I should weight 85kgs at least. Most guys at my height are heavier than me and im getting everpowered easly. Ba i have troubles with strong foids with pure power. Thats why for me speed is the most important but i lack so muc weight and raw power

 

[Deleted member 656]

no. I should weight 85kgs at least. Most guys at my height are heavier than me and im getting everpowered easly. Ba i have troubles with strong foids with pure power. Thats why for me speed is the most important but i lack so muc weight and raw power

Big bulky Polak warriors

 

[Deleted member 4209]

Pre-gymcelling you'd expect a 10% body fat guy at that height to be something like 140 - 150 lbs.

facts
i was literally 100lb at 10% pre gymcelling at 5'9. the "only 20 pounds of lifetime muscle gain" meme that Rippetoe and them teach is based on the assumption that you are like 150-160 lean when u start, which few people are.