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Well guys I have been researching manipulation and manipulative techniques for quite some time now I read multiple books and studies about it. And I have decided to share my findings and insight with this overlie autistic community.
So before we dive any deeper lets us understand what exactly is "manipulation"?
-Manipulation in its simplest form is a:
"Behavior that controls or influences somebody/something, often in a dishonest way so that they do not realize it".
Or
"The control or use of something in a way that shows skill".
Great now that we know that manipulation by its definition is amoral let us ask ourselves who uses it in day-to-day life and occurrences the most?
:The most common set of individuals who use manipulative techniques are as follows: Narssacists, Psychopaths(also included amongst them are sociopaths), and Machiavellianisms. These three groups of people are shown to use the manipulation tricks and techniques the most (Not to say that they are the only ones using them because every person has or is using manipulation in everyday life but not to the degree the highlighted groups are using it.)
These three groups and their traits are often bundled in one personality type to easily classify them to those with the unknowing eye who can't seem to recognize certain personality traits from one another so they call it in short The Dark Triad. Before we continue I will explain The Dark Triad a bit more in detail.
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THE DARK TRIAD: Origin and explanation.
The Dark Triad originated on the "Red Pill" forums. In short, it fuses the personality traits of the aforementioned groups and presents them as an ideal personality one as a male should have/strive to achieve: high social status, tight control over interpersonal social dynamics, intense sexual attraction, and immense personal power. It’s for these reasons that many men interested in red pill philosophy likewise have an interest in the dark triad and idealize ascertaining the psychological state of “being dark triad” or at least a simulacrum of such a state.
For us to better understand The Dark Triad we have to understand the three personality traits that are an intricate part of it a little better.
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1.NARCISSISM
So before we dive any deeper lets us understand what exactly is "manipulation"?
-Manipulation in its simplest form is a:
"Behavior that controls or influences somebody/something, often in a dishonest way so that they do not realize it".
Or
"The control or use of something in a way that shows skill".
Great now that we know that manipulation by its definition is amoral let us ask ourselves who uses it in day-to-day life and occurrences the most?
:The most common set of individuals who use manipulative techniques are as follows: Narssacists, Psychopaths(also included amongst them are sociopaths), and Machiavellianisms. These three groups of people are shown to use the manipulation tricks and techniques the most (Not to say that they are the only ones using them because every person has or is using manipulation in everyday life but not to the degree the highlighted groups are using it.)
These three groups and their traits are often bundled in one personality type to easily classify them to those with the unknowing eye who can't seem to recognize certain personality traits from one another so they call it in short The Dark Triad. Before we continue I will explain The Dark Triad a bit more in detail.
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THE DARK TRIAD: Origin and explanation.
The Dark Triad originated on the "Red Pill" forums. In short, it fuses the personality traits of the aforementioned groups and presents them as an ideal personality one as a male should have/strive to achieve: high social status, tight control over interpersonal social dynamics, intense sexual attraction, and immense personal power. It’s for these reasons that many men interested in red pill philosophy likewise have an interest in the dark triad and idealize ascertaining the psychological state of “being dark triad” or at least a simulacrum of such a state.
For us to better understand The Dark Triad we have to understand the three personality traits that are an intricate part of it a little better.
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1.NARCISSISM
Wikipedia
Narcissism
is the pursuit of gratification from vanity or egotistic admiration of one's idealized self-image and attributes. The term originated from Greek mythology, where a young man named Narcissus fell in love with his own image reflected in a pool of water. Narcissism or pathological self-absorption was first identified as a disorder in 1898 by Havelock Ellis[1] and featured in subsequent psychological models, e.g. in Freud's On Narcissism (1914). The American Psychiatric Association has listed the classification of narcissistic personality disorder in its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) since 1968, drawing on the historical concept of megalomania.
It is distinct from concepts of distinguishing the self (egocentrism or egoism) and healthy forms of responsibility and care for oneself ("primary narcissism"). Narcissism by contrast is considered a problem for relationships with self and others and for maintaining a functional culture. In trait personality theory it features several self-report personality inventories including the Millon Clinical Multiaxial Inventory. It is one of the three dark triadic personality traits (the others being psychopathy and Machiavellianism).
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So Narcissism as mentioned above is Excessive self-love as well as ridiculously high, bordering on, or far exceeding, obnoxious self-confidence. Dark triad individuals are egotist incarnate, this component of the triad forms the superficial glazing which masks and distracts one from the murkier depths of the dark triad persona. It is this device that achieves a dark triad individual baseline social acceptance in most social situations, for people are innately drawn to those who exhibit vast self-confidence.
These men see power embodied within specific personality traits and they want to know “how can I be like that?” “How can I be a successful asshole?!” The truth of the matter is that if you did not neurologically develop a dark triad personality as a child, you will never be a completely dark triad in the truest sense of the classification. The dark triad is essentially not something one can be trained to become, however it can be reverse-engineered and emulated. I’ll elaborate on this later on in the upcoming threads.
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2.PSYCHOPATHY.
Wikipedia
Psychopathy, sometimes considered synonymous with sociopathy, is traditionally a personality disorder characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits.[1][2][3] Different conceptions of psychopathy have been used throughout history that is only partly overlapping and may sometimes be contradictory.[4]
Hervey M. Cleckley, an American psychiatrist, influenced the initial diagnostic criteria for antisocial personality reaction/disturbance in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), as did American psychologist George E. Partridge.[5] The DSM and International Classification of Diseases (ICD) subsequently introduced the diagnoses of antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) and dissocial personality disorder (DPD) respectively, stating that these diagnoses have been referred to (or include what is referred to) as psychopathy or sociopathy. The creation of ASPD and DPD was driven by the fact that many of the classic traits of psychopathy were impossible to measure objectively.[4][6][7][8][9] Canadian psychologist Robert D. Hare later repopularized the construct of psychopathy in criminology with his Psychopathy Checklist.[4][7][10][11]
Although no psychiatric or psychological organization has sanctioned a diagnosis titled "psychopathy", assessments of psychopathic characteristics are widely used in criminal justice settings in some nations and may have important consequences for individuals. The study of psychopathy is an active field of research, and the term is also used by the general public, the popular press, and in fictional portrayals.[11][12] While the term is often employed in common usage along with "crazy", "insane", and "mentally ill", there is a categorical difference between psychosis and psychopathy.
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Psychopathy is the reason you cannot train yourself to be a dark triad individual, psychopathy is how your brain connects your behavioral choices to your sense of guilt/remorse. These are essentially the body’s way of morally provoking you to cease immoral activity. If you felt no guilt or discomfort for making immoral choices, your likelihood of committing immoral behavior increases tenfold. Furthermore, if you actually derive pleasure from immoral behaviors, that can act as a social reinforcer for being immoral.
Psychopathy defined in relation to the dark triad is the inherent ability for the dark triad individual to show no aversion for immoral or harmful behavior, predominantly because they feel no empathy, guilt, or remorse when doing bad things. This is perceived as a skill of sorts in the ruggedness of the oft unfair modern world but is medically defined as a mental disorder.
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3. Machiavellianism
Wikipedia
In the field of personality psychology, Machiavellianism is a personality trait centered on manipulativeness, callousness, and indifference to morality.[1] Though unrelated to the historical figure or his works, the trait is named after the political philosophy of Niccolò Machiavelli, as psychologists, Richard Christie and Florence Geis used edited and truncated statements inspired by his works to study variations in human behaviors.[2][3][4] Their Mach IV test, a 20-question, Likert-scale personality survey, became the standard self-assessment tool and scale of the Machiavellianism construct. Those who score high on the scale (High Machs) are more likely to have a high level of deceitfulness and an unempathetic temperament.[5]
It is one of the dark triad traits, along with narcissism and psychopathy.
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Machiavellianism is the tendency to see all social paradigms and scenarios as games of strategy that require meticulous maneuvering. Machiavellians are emotionally and socially manipulative; they have a tendency to dehumanize and objectify humans down to their skills and utilitarianism rather than perceive them as entities with personalities to be admired. In a nutshell, Machiavellians have a tendency to view things purely in terms of value exchange “what does this person bring to the table?” and care little, if at all, for anything else.
Highly skilled Machiavellians manipulate themselves via stoicism to attain the outcomes they seek (something of a perverse form of delayed gratification) however dark triad individuals have no need for stoicism because they possess an underlying psychopathic element. Machiavellians quite simply are very tactical individuals who execute the vast majority of their social interactions like a metaphorical hybrid game of chess and poker.
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Dark triad people are very powerful individuals. They are harmful both to society and themselves, as by nature of their personalities they are extremely unstable individuals. The fact of the matter is they tend not to care about changing their negative aspects even if they are self-aware enough to realize what the negative aspects of themselves are. They are more concerned with concealing the existence of their negative aspects and convincing others they do not exist or are otherwise justifiable or acceptable within the context of a situation. Rather perversely, they appear to be at peace with their deepest faults even if they verbalize the contrary.
Due to the psychopathic element of the triad a person cannot become a “fully dark triad” as this element, in particular, appears to be something imbued either genetically or in the development stages of childhood brain formation. Dark triad individuals cannot be “fixed,” a dark triad individual will remain one for the entirety of their lives. Most of them don’t want to be fixed as they’re addicted to their own power and sense of self-importance. They can be emulated, you cannot “become one” but you can “become like one.” With training and study, one can demonstrate borderline or sub-clinically dark triad qualities and that is much the purpose of these threads that I'm trying to make.
This is just a short introduction nothing special really I plan to go much deeper than this but I shall need quite some time to complete the set of these threads maybe a couple of months or maybe a year who knows but this is just purely a teaser to what's coming.
Yours truly FraudingIQ.