MSE is the biggest cope on this site

[FaceandHFD]

No, it won't change your IPD or your zygos

Zygomaticomaxillary modifications in the horizontal plane induced by micro-implant-supported skeletal expander, analyzed with CBCT images

Miniscrew-assisted rapid palatal expansion (MARPE) has been adopted in recent years to expand the maxilla in late adolescence and adult patients. Maxillary Skeletal Expander (MSE) is a device that exploits the principles of skeletal anchorage to transmit ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Results
Anterior inter-maxillary distance increased by 2.8 mm, posterior inter-zygomatic distance by 2.4 mm, angle of the zygomatic process of the temporal bone by 1.7° and 2.1° (right and left side) (P < 0.01). Changes in posterior inter-temporal distance and zygomaticotemporal angle were negligible (P > 0.05).

Fifteen subjects with a mean age of 17.2 (± 4.2) years were treated with MSE. CBCT records were taken before and after miniscrew-assisted maxillary expansion; three linear and four angular parameters were identified in the axial zygomatic section (AZS) and were compared from pre-treatment to post-treatment using the Wilcoxon signed rank test.

The average amount of MSE jackscrew activation was 6.8 ± 1.9 mm, with a range of 4.1 to 10.5 mm. The period of active maxillary expansion ranged from 12 to 36 days.

jfl this was done on fucking growing teencels and they got shit with results with 7mm expansion .

 

[needsolution]

Wider mouth, wider face is everything.

 

[FaceandHFD]

Wider mouth, wider face is everything.

they only got 2.5mm wider face, and their noses widened just as much

 

[needsolution]

Also
The period of active maxillary expansion ranged from 12 to 36 days.

Slower expansion = better results.
It took 3 months for Ronald Ead to get 5mm of bizygomatic width.

 

[FaceandHFD]

Also
The period of active maxillary expansion ranged from 12 to 36 days.

Slower expansion = better results.
It took 3 months for Ronald Ead to get 5mm of bizygomatic width.

PROOF?

Seems like cope to me

 

[Darkstrand]

We've had this thread before kys

 

[Deleted member 5393]

MSE is the holy spirit of life itself

 

[FaceandHFD]

MSE is the holy spirit of life itself

proof or bust, I still haven't seen a proper ct-scan or proper before or after pics

 

[foreverugly1]

people on this site think a surgery or two is going to turn them into male model material. they're the perfect candidates for money hungry docs.

 

[needsolution]

PROOF?

Seems like cope to me

proof or bust, I still haven't seen a proper ct-scan or proper before or after pics

Ronald Ead made 84 turns in 86 days so its like 12mm expansion at age of 30. It helped him to widen his mouth by around 6mm and bizygomatic width by around 5.2mm (from my measurments, there was someone claiming 5.1mm but its not difference).
5mm in bizygomatic width is huge. Blind if u dont see.

 

[FaceandHFD]

Ronald Ead made 84 turns in 86 days so its like 12mm expansion at age of 30. It helped him to widen his mouth by around 6mm and bizygomatic width by around 5.2mm (from my measurments, there was someone claiming 5.1mm but its not difference).
5mm in bizygomatic width is huge. Blind if u dont see.

his bizygomatic width didn't change at all, i've posted the gifs here

 

[Darkstrand]

Ronald Ead made 84 turns in 86 days so its like 12mm expansion at age of 30. It helped him to widen his mouth by around 6mm and bizygomatic width by around 5.2mm (from my measurments, there was someone claiming 5.1mm but its not difference).
5mm in bizygomatic width is huge. Blind if u dont see.

How about IPD/PFL, there's people saying there are changes and people saying there are non

 

[Slayerino]

PROOF?

Seems like cope to me

 

[FaceandHFD]

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camera angle game and lopsided lower jaw, spent hours looking at his videos and didn't notice change

 

[needsolution]

his bizygomatic width didn't change at all, i've posted the gifs here

This gif is not worth shit.
You are either blind or idk

Change is visible, even my 7 years old cousin can see difference.
Also me and few other people measured it with iris method so its proved that there was gain in bizygomatic, mouth, nose and slight IPD width.

Also im sorry but 5-6mm of facial width wont turn you into male model. It doesnt work like that.

How about IPD/PFL, there's people saying there are changes and people saying there are non

I didnt notice PFL change. IPD very slight.

 

[FaceandHFD]

How about IPD/PFL, there's people saying there are changes and people saying there are non

This gif is not worth shit.
You are either blind or idk
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Change is visible, even my 7 years old cousin can see difference.
Also me and few other people measured it with iris method so its proved that there was gain in bizygomatic, mouth, nose and slight IPD width.

Also im sorry but 5-6mm of facial width wont turn you into male model. It doesnt work like that.

I didnt notice PFL change. IPD very slight.

JFl if you aren't aware that hair on your sideburns affect how wide your cheekbones look. less/no hair on sideburns makes zygos look wider

 

[needsolution]

JFl if you aren't aware that hair on your sideburns affect how wide your cheekbones look. less/no hair on sideburns makes zygos look wider

Dont see any reason to discuss with you anymore if u dont see how his jaw is popping out after AGGA in first picture and how its almost same width after MSE.

@SayNoToRotting may be u have patience to talk with someone like that.

 

[FaceandHFD]

Dont see any reason to discuss with you anymore if u dont see how his jaw is popping out after AGGA in first picture and how its almost same width after MSE.

@SayNoToRotting may be u have patience to talk with someone like that.

atrophied masseters

 

[Saen]

 

[Darkstrand]

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@FaceandHFD and here he has a shorter haircut in the before but zygos look wider in the after

 

[DutchPrettyBoy]

Wider mouth, wider face is everything.

also wider pp

 

[FaceandHFD]

@FaceandHFD and here he has a shorter haircut in the before but zygos look wider in the after

mariana trench iq reply

 

[Darkstrand]

mariana trench iq reply

No you fuckin retard... Literally 2 comments above you wrote fewer hair=more zygoprominence (as in visible zygo prominence) I prove you wrong and you can't even reply using 2 braincells

 

[FaceandHFD]

No you fuckin retard... Literally 2 comments above you wrote fewer hair=more zygoprominence (as in visible zygo prominence) I prove you wrong and you can't even reply using 2 braincells

has less hair in the after

 

[GetThatBread]

You’re right MSE is cope. Don’t get it guys. You’ll only get Gap teeth from it

 

[Hector]

This gif is not worth shit.
You are either blind or idk
View attachment 338581View attachment 338582

Change is visible, even my 7 years old cousin can see difference.
Also me and few other people measured it with iris method so its proved that there was gain in bizygomatic, mouth, nose and slight IPD width.

Also im sorry but 5-6mm of facial width wont turn you into male model. It doesnt work like that.

I didnt notice PFL change. IPD very slight.

If my face was a bit wider and my IPD I would be shitty model tier

 

[mido the slayer]

OP IS either blind or 2 digit iq

 

[Deleted member 685]

Tbh ur right

 

[xefo]

Only been on this forum for less than a month probably but whenever I see you make a thread, before I even read it I know it’s gonna piss me off, not even from the content just the way you type and your persona

 

[FaceandHFD]

Only been on this forum for less than a month probably but whenever I see you make a thread, before I even read it I know it’s gonna piss me off, not even from the content just the way you type and your persona

i've mastered the art of shitposting

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

You’re right MSE is cope. Don’t get it guys. You’ll only get Gap teeth from it

elab

 

[GetThatBread]

elab

I was joking and mocking retards like @Moggy and @Elias both fags that hate on MSE

https://looksmax.org/threads/how-much-does-having-an-mse-installed-cost-us.66843/post-1191998

Let’s see if they can refute this

 

[Moggy]

I was joking and mocking retards like @Moggy and @Elias both fags that hate on MSE

https://looksmax.org/threads/how-much-does-having-an-mse-installed-cost-us.66843/post-1191998

Let’s see if they can refute this

You're just a poor incel who thinks they can ascend while spending pennies. Hate to break it to you, but it is over.

 

[Deleted member 3962]

How about IPD/PFL, there's people saying there are changes and people saying there are non

a 16 y/o girl gained 1.5mm IPD and 0.5mm PFL and womens sutures close earlier than mens. u should be able to get IPD changes until 20-21 years old as a male, but these changes will be minimal.