Orbital differences (Race)

[Aesthetics_III]

East Asians are ugly. At least, for the most part. I won’t deny that there are some good looking ones (K-POP stars), but the average European mogs the average East Asian to lengths that should be deemed illegal.

One major difference in their looks is their eyes. European have a much more (objectively) better eye area.

The reason for this is due to the orbits. As you can see, the asians have full hooding, vertically narrow and decently long eyes. Yet they still look like absolute garbage because of the orbits.

The main difference is the strength/prominence of the orbits.

Europeans have orbits that protrude further, as well as a stronger glabella. This creates attractive, deep set eyes; vital in looking human.

Furthermore, Europeans have more compact and square orbitals.

Asians have rounder, shallower orbits while Europeans have stronger, squared orbits.

Having the ideal orbitals (strong, compact and squared) are essential in creating a perfect hunter eye area.

Combine this with narrow eyes and you have masculine hunter eyes

as compared to someone like Barrett who has slightly less squared and strong orbits

This is why Asians can never achieve Hunter eyes, and maybe not even decent eyes; and since eyes are perhaps the most important part of aesthetics, it is truly over for Asians.

 

[Moneymaxxed]

East Asians are ugly. At least, for the most part. I won’t deny that there are some good looking ones (K-POP stars), but the average European mogs the average East Asian to lengths that should be deemed illegal.

One major difference in their looks is their eyes. European have a much more (objectively) better eye area.

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The reason for this is due to the orbits. As you can see, the asians have full hooding, vertically narrow and decently long eyes. Yet they still look like absolute garbage because of the orbits.

The main difference is the strength/prominence of the orbits.

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Europeans have orbits that protrude further, as well as a stronger glabella. This creates attractive, deep set eyes; vital in looking human.

Furthermore, Europeans have more compact and square orbitals.


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Asians have rounder, shallower orbits while Europeans have stronger, squared orbits.

Having the ideal orbitals (strong, compact and squared) are essential in creating a perfect hunter eye area.

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Combine this with narrow eyes and you have masculine hunter eyes

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as compared to someone like Barrett who has slightly less squared and strong orbits

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This is why Asians can never achieve Hunter eyes, and maybe not even decent eyes; and since eyes are perhaps the most important part of aesthetics, it is truly over for Asians.

Tbh eyes in the first asian photo look good and first example of European eyes looks bad. jfl

European: NCT, shit eyebrows, weird sockets
Asian: PCT, good eyebrows, even coloring is photoshopped or something

 

[Aesthetics_III]

Tbh eyes in the first asian photo look good

which is why I chose it, but compared to some mediocre white model most girls would say the latter has better eyes

 

[Deleted member 5927]

Fuck my "life", it truly is over.

 

[Darkstrand]

Good thread, but what to do about it? I am white but any way to improve orbitals would be appreciated

 

[Deleted member 5204]

Honda Civic

 

[Papal_Guard]

Good thread, but what to do about it? I am white but any way to improve orbitals would be appreciated

Grow browridge

 

[Deleted member 5632]

What about blacks

 

[Vidyacoper]

cope thread

 

[garfyld]

What makes compact orbitals, genetics or testosterone?

 

[Aesthetics_III]

What about blacks

less rounded than Asians but more than Europeans

seems slightly negatively tilted as well.

Less prominent orbitals as compared to Europeans, though strong lateral orbits.

What makes compact orbitals, genetics or testosterone?

genetics

 

[Deleted member 2227]

They would literally need to change their Cranial Base to achieve Hunter eyes, since It's a morphological issue in racially dependent cases

https://looksmax.org/threads/what-causes-the-real-pan-face-effect.103912/

All their features are round as well

 

[Deleted member 5632]

less rounded than Asians but more than Europeans


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seems slightly negatively tilted as well.

Less prominent orbitals as compared to Europeans, though strong lateral orbits.

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genetics

What race do I come closest to

 

[Deleted member 2227]

cope thread

Why?

 

[Aesthetics_III]

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Blasian

 

[Deleted member 2227]

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Black obv

 

[Deleted member 5204]

What race do I come closest toView attachment 333961

Blasian

 

[Vidyacoper]

Why?

only difference is in brow ridge, asians overall tend to have way better eye support and ive never even seen an asian without pct, they also have the best infraorbital projection

 

[Aesthetics_III]

only difference is in brow ridge, asians overall tend to have way better eye support and ive never even seen an asian without pct, they also have the best infraorbital projection

in the end, it doesn’t matter

Deep set eyes are a requirement.

 

[Deleted member 2227]

only difference is in brow ridge

Whites have more forward grown deep set square compact orbitals

This means

Wider angular Medial canthus
Wider PFL
More Protected eyeballs (from the bones too and not only fat)
Lower set eyebrows
Better shaped eyebrows
Straighter eyelids
Less PFH


Asians get mogged in every single way.

 

[Vidyacoper]

Whites have more forward grown deep set square compact orbitals

This means

Wider angular Medial canthus
Wider PFL
More Protected eyeballs (from the bones too and not only fat)
Lower set eyebrows
Better shaped eyebrows
Straighter eyelids
Less PFH


Asians get mogged in every single way.

wider angular medial canthus = wider pfl (same thing lol)
more protected eyeballs - isnt this just an aesthetic analysis, even so most eye protection comes from the cheekbones - asians have the widest, highest set cheekbones + anterior infraorbital and cheekbone projection so OVERALL they have the most well protecte
better shaped eyebrows - not necessarily, shape is unique, thickness and how lowset it is (and actually slightly the shape) is more due to testosterone/prenatal t
straighter eyelids - nope lol, asians have better undereye support + infraorbitals like i said

im not saying that asians eye area mog whites at all, its just that OP said whites eye area mog asians ("much better objectively") and that east asians are ugly
a mix of asian and caucasian eye area traits is ideal - it's why tyson beckford has one of the best eye areas

 

[reptiles]

They would literally need to change their Cranial Base to achieve Hunter eyes, since It's a morphological issue in racially dependent cases

https://looksmax.org/threads/what-causes-the-real-pan-face-effect.103912/

All their features are round as well

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Fuck i could have had that white dudes cranial base and be saved of inceldom had my mom fucked a white giga chad she was already way more caucasoid than your average south asian and even the lowest classes of south asians already have 18 to 25 percent ani.

My mom probably had more than that way more probably had my mom fucked a nordic giga chad i would have been euro passing or south europassing fuck this earth.

 

[Deleted member 2227]

wider angular medial canthus = wider pfl (same thing lol)

Wider medial canthus causes wider PFL but is not the same thing

even so most eye protection comes from the cheekbones - asians have the widest, highest set cheekbones + anterior infraorbital and cheekbone projection so OVERALL they have the most well protecte

Asians tend to have bigger cheekbones, but not Higher Set. Their maxillary recession and lack of Brow Bridge prominence makes it even bigger.

No, Brow Bridge is way more important for Eyeball protection.

straighter eyelids - nope lol, asians have better undereye support + infraorbitals like i said

Still round shaped anyway

"Asians tend to have a taller, more-circular shaped orbit, whereas Caucasians tend to have a square-shaped orbit. In lateral view, Caucasians possess a more prominent superior rim and deeper lateral rim.10 13 14"

"Anatomically, the medial epicanthal fold is a semilunar fold of skin that runs downward from the upper eyelid at the side of the nose with its concavity directed to the inner canthus. These epicanthal folds result in a round-looking inner eye and make the palpebral fissure narrower."

"The up-slanting appearance of the palpebral aperture in Asians is frequently derived not from the anatomically positive canthal tilt, but from combined effects of the epicanthus and the up-slanting lateral half of the lower eyelid margin."

better shaped eyebrows - not necessarily, shape is unique, thickness and how lowset it is (and actually slightly the shape) is more due to testosterone/prenatal t

Eyebrows are shaped by orbitals shape and position (soft features too but supra are more important).

 

[Aesthetics_III]

even so most eye protection comes from the cheekbones asians have the widest, highest set cheekbones

Asians have the lowest, most bulbous cheekbones

Vs

Look at their skulls.

Asian cheekbones are bigger and end lower ( all cheekbones start at the same point relative to the other features) and are rounder than their European counterparts.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

it's indeed what it is, they don't even have eyelid

 

[sandcelmuttcel]

asian eyes mog curry and sandcel eyes to oblivion though

 

[kuroro]

Asians have the lowest, most bulbous cheekbones

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Look at their skulls.
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Asian cheekbones are bigger and end lower ( all cheekbones start at the same point relative to the other features) and are rounder than their European counterparts.

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Only difference is that you never see a white with an ogee curve. Eriksen/Meeks/Ramirez cheekbones all look better than Oprys while ending lower and higher in mass.

 

[Mr.cope]

Good thread, but what to do about it? I am white but any way to improve orbitals would be appreciated

You can’t

 

[kuroro]

Ive actually seen a full asian with the exact same eye area as this guy. Exact same low set positive eyebrows and a brow ridge that casts a shadow over his eyes. Truly 1 in a billion.

 

[Aesthetics_III]

Only difference is that you never see a white with an ogee curve. Eriksen/Meeks/Ramirez cheekbones all look better than Oprys while ending lower and higher in mass.

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Ive actually seen a full asian with the exact same eye area as this guy. Exact same low set positive eyebrows and a brow ridge that casts a shadow over his eyes. Truly 1 in a billion.

Pics?

 

[kuroro]

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Pics?

Yea sure picking 7psl + models proves your point. Truth is ogee curves are rare as fuck. Im just saying theyre more commonly seen in asians.
Both ogee curves are good but imo Ramirez and Eriksens look way more aesthetic. it looks like someone bit off a chunk of Oprys cheekbones.



He looks like a 6'2 Jin Kazama clone right down to the last feature.

 

[didntreadlol]

As you can see, the asians have full hooding,

Asians don't have fat pad hooding

 

[Alexanderr]

Yea sure picking 7psl + models proves your point.

It does, dude. You said you never see whites with an ogee curve (might've been hyperbole but you never know with aspies on this site), he gives examples of whites with an ogee curve and then you try to say it isn't valid because they're models? I've seen random whites with ogee curves several times before but I obviously don't know their names nor have any pictures of them so obviously I wouldn't be able to use them as examples to prove my point unlike with models.
Obviously models don't represent the average population but still.

 

[kuroro]

It does, dude. You said you never see whites with an ogee curve (might've been hyperbole but you never know with aspies on this site), he gives examples of whites with an ogee curve and then you try to say it isn't valid because they're models? I've seen random whites with ogee curves several times before but I obviously don't know their names nor have any pictures of them so obviously I wouldn't be able to use them as examples to prove my point unlike with models.
Obviously models don't represent the average population but still.

Those models are like 1 in millions lol i meant the average white. Ive actually never seen a white with any sort of ogee curve and ive only seen 1 asian with one like Ramirez.

 

[Deleted member 5521]

One problem with caucasian (and other non-asian eyes) is they're easily susceptible to eyelid exposure which looks fucking horrendous. Even the worst Asian eyes cant be that bad since monolids are most common (even though I have double eyelids myself).

 

[Borneon_Tyger]

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North Indian Mediterranean Mogger

 

[AngryAsianManlet]

The one thing I hate about Rice eye areas is that we have our eye brows so far up our asses we look comical

 

[kuroro]

Pics?

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[Aesthetics_III]

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good eye area for an Asian but it differs from this eye area in important ways.

The Asian eyes aren’t deep set, which is one of the most important traits in creating a good eye area. He doesn’t have full hooding either. His pupils are covered which gives him a tired look and his pfl and eye shape aren’t brilliant. He does have very low set brows and thick eyebrows which is rare for an Asian.

Very rare and good eye area for an Asian regardless though

 

[justadude]

most asians have high set eyebrows so its automatically over

 

[kuroro]

good eye area for an Asian but it differs from this eye area in important ways.

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The Asian eyes aren’t deep set, which is one of the most important traits in creating a good eye area. He doesn’t have full hooding either. His pupils are covered which gives him a tired look and his pfl and eye shape aren’t brilliant. He does have very low set brows and thick eyebrows which is rare for an Asian.

Very rare and good eye area for an Asian regardless though

Heres another pic i found from his insta they look deep set to me. His eyes actually look deep set from the side and theres a thick shadow over it.

His forehead/infraglabella notch looks like this

At the end of the day i guess if it looks hunter thats all that matters

 

[Alexanderr]

Nice thread but I would’ve appreciated better examples and an overall more expansive and detailed thread. There’s lots of ethnicities/races you didn’t mention which all have different orbitals.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

good eye area for an Asian but it differs from this eye area in important ways.

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The Asian eyes aren’t deep set, which is one of the most important traits in creating a good eye area. He doesn’t have full hooding either. His pupils are covered which gives him a tired look and his pfl and eye shape aren’t brilliant. He does have very low set brows and thick eyebrows which is rare for an Asian.

Very rare and good eye area for an Asian regardless though

I never see asians with legit deepset eyes tbh

 

[Deleted member 3323]

I hope you realize sean o'pry isn't fully European. He's half native american.

 

[Aesthetics_III]

I hope you realize sean o'pry isn't fully European. He's half native american.

I am aware

 

[Deleted member 5061]

If you compare skull shapes, that were posted above, one thing immediately becomes evident, that the asian and african skulls look more similar to a monkey skull / skull of a neanderthal when looking at certain areas, while the caucasoid skull resembles a neanderthal/monkey skull the least out of all others. It has less similarities than skulls of other regions on earth.

In that aspect, the caucasoid skull is evolutionary kinda "further" advanced, because it shares less similar features with the neanderthal/monkey skull.

You can see it on mixed children too, the more caucasoid their face look, the more attractive they are. The more asian their skull looks, the less attractive they are.

Many asians and blacks have bimaxillary protrusion, that makes them look very primate-like. It is extremely RARE to see a caucasoid person with such bimaxillary protrusion, that resembles a monkey skull shape.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

If you compare skull shapes, that were posted above, one thing immediately becomes evident, that the asian and african skulls look more similar to a monkey skull / skull of a neanderthal when looking at certain areas, while the caucasoid skull resembles a neanderthal/monkey skull the least out of all others. It has less similarities than skulls of other regions on earth.

In that aspect, the caucasoid skull is evolutionary kinda "further" advanced, because it shares less similar features with the neanderthal/monkey skull.

You can see it on mixed children too, the more caucasoid their face look, the more attractive they are. The more asian their skull looks, the less attractive they are.

Many asians and blacks have bimaxillary protrusion, that makes them look very primate-like. It is extremely RARE to see a caucasoid person with such bimaxillary protrusion, that resembles a monkey skull shape.

Do all asians have bimaxillary protusion?

 

[thecel]

only difference is in brow ridge, asians overall tend to have way better eye support and ive never even seen an asian without pct, they also have the best infraorbital projection

And nose bridge. Asian nose bridge is so recessed that sometimes you can see both eyes in a side profile view.

 

[Deleted member 5061]

Do all asians have bimaxillary protusion?

No ofcourse not. Bimaxillary protrusion is mouth protrusion like shown in the picture. It resembles a monkey mouth area quite a bit from profile view.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

No ofcourse not. Bimaxillary protrusion is mouth protrusion like shown in the picture. It resembles a monkey mouth area quite a bit from profile view.

How many percent of asians and blacks have it would yiu say?