Perfect Nose & Lip Width

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I would like to show you best way to measure your nose and lip width and find out whether you have ideal nose and lips.

Nose width:
Draw a straight line from the medial canthus. The nose should align with that line.

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Lip width:
Draw a straight line from the start of the iris. The lip should align with that line.

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Bro i dont think these theories are legit. Its just Chico who has his own proportions which make him look godly.
On other hand you can take Sean O'Pry who will have different proportions and still look godly.
 
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Bro i dont think these theories are legit. Its just Chico who has his own proportions which make him look godly.
On other hand you can take Sean O'Pry who will have different proportions and still look godly.
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I have 1.51 mouth/nose
Looks narrow
 
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I would like to show you best way to measure your nose and lip width and find out whether you have ideal nose and lips.





Lip width:
Draw a straight line from the start of the iris. The lip should align with that line.
its shoud be ipd
 
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That would be too wide... Any examples???
I would never say it’s “too wide” it’s probably an ideal that’s unrealistic for most people.

However, examples of men whose mouth widths are closer to IPD than distance between start of each iris are Tim Bormann and Colton Haynes.
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Both their mouth areas look fantastic, in part, because of this. Plus the mouth width gives them INSANE smiles, even without having an actual broad arch:
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Tim Bormann’s mouth is even WIDER than IPD
 
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I would never say it’s “too wide” it’s probably an ideal that’s unrealistic for most people.

However, examples of men whose mouth widths are closer to IPD than distance between start of each iris are Tim Bormann and Colton Haynes.
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Both their mouth areas look fantastic, in part, because of this. Plus the mouth width gives them INSANE smiles, even without having an actual broad arch:
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Tim Bormann’s mouth is even WIDER than IPD
I would say having a wide lip is more of a striking feature. It definitely suits some people but I wouldn't expect everyone to look good with wide lips.
 
I would say having a wide lip is more of a striking feature. It definitely suits some people but I wouldn't expect everyone to look good with wide lips.
Like I said, mouth wider than the distance between inner border of each iris is an IDEAL, but it’s UNREALISTIC for most people, so a mouth width equaling inter-inner iris border-width is perfectly fine and likely more attainable for most looksmaxes unless they get something like MSE + mouth widening surgery.
 
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I would say having a wide lip is more of a striking feature. It definitely suits some people but I wouldn't expect everyone to look good with wide lips.
who cares about your opion, its not worth to validate what is ideal by your words
I would never say it’s “too wide” it’s probably an ideal that’s unrealistic for most people.

However, examples of men whose mouth widths are closer to IPD than distance between start of each iris are Tim Bormann and Colton Haynes.
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Both their mouth areas look fantastic, in part, because of this. Plus the mouth width gives them INSANE smiles, even without having an actual broad arch:
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Tim Bormann’s mouth is even WIDER than IPD
i wish i look like Tim Bormann
 
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Old af theory, and shit theory too btw
 
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i wish i look like Tim Bormann

He has average to narrow IPD, non hunter eyes with NCT and constant UEE, yet has insane harmony. His maxilla and mouth have a lot to do with it:
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He has average to narrow IPD, non hunter eyes with NCT and constant UEE, yet has insane harmony. His maxilla and mouth have a lot to do with it:
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what his ipd?
He has average to narrow IPD, non hunter eyes with NCT and constant UEE, yet has insane harmony. His maxilla and mouth have a lot to do with it:
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i think it is imposible to have below average ipd with that cheekbone, i mean its not high but its big for average btw what is uee?
 
what his ipd?
Tbh haven’t really measured it but seems average and possibly on the smaller side in most pictures (even if you just look at his eyes—on vio uso this wide mouth makes it look narrower in comparison)


Update:
•Using Iris as a constant
(male iris is 11.77mm t/- 0.37mm)
and double checking by comparing him and O’Pry (who’s IPD is about 68.2-4)....
Tim’s is about 60.03 mm
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So Tim is proof that a wide mouth on a narrow IPD...not only doesn’t always look bad, it can even look fantastic.
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Doing these measurements has made me value mouth aesthetics so much more now. Honestly top two most important areas to me are now eye area, and then mouth area.

Note: Tim appears to be puckering his lips in the image I used to measure his IPD. This doesn’t affect his IPD measurement whatsoever but it makes his lips only looks like they’re wide but still equal to his IPD... but in a truly natural pose and from a proper distance that fully eliminates Lens distortion, they’re actually just as wide as his IPD. AND his mouth looks even better in this picture, where it’s wider.
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Honestly top two most important areas to me are now eye area, and then mouth area.
What makes an ideal mouth area? Show me an example of ideal mouth area.
 
What makes an ideal mouth area? Show me an example of ideal mouth area.
13-15mm philtrum, good upper-lower lip ratio, good lip fullness and good lips width. And yeah, neutral or upturned lips.
 
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What makes an ideal mouth area? Show me an example of ideal mouth area.
For men , an ideal mouth is that it should be not too prominent and average in width and size
13-15mm philtrum, good upper-lower lip ratio, good lip fullness and good lips width. And yeah, neutral or upturned lips.
Honestly i wouldn't use mm values because skull size varies from person to person
 
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For men , an ideal mouth is that it should be not too prominent and average in width and size

Honestly i wouldn't use mm values because skull size varies from person to person
13-15mm philtrum is ideal on males. Skulls dont vary that much.
 
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Oveeeeeerrrrrrr
 
What makes an ideal mouth area? Show me an example of ideal mouth area.
Oh yeah. Chico has top tier mouth area. His width might not be great. But shape, fullness, color halos his eyes so much
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To this day I cannot understand why chico mogs so hard. He has no jaw, no chin, just good nose, lips and eyes. And yet he still mogs so hard, forget about his height, we are talking about face here
 
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To this day I cannot understand why chico mogs so hard. He has no jaw, no chin, just good nose, lips and eyes. And yet he still mogs so hard, forget about his height, we are talking about face here
Not just good eyes , his eyes are top tier
 
who cares about your opion, its not worth to validate what is ideal by your words

i wish i look like Tim Bormann
You don't have to trust my word , i have given proof , it's your turn
 
@Deliciadecu atleast explain us why it's wrong lmao. It seems like you just wanna have a monopoly in the PSL circle and be the all knowing guy with his YT channel. OPs point is very good and most MM have ratios similar to these.
 
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@Deliciadecu atleast explain us why it's wrong lmao. It seems like you just wanna have a monopoly in the PSL circle and be the all knowing guy with his YT channel. OPs point is very good and most MM have ratios similar to these.

bigonial width is the first thing that the mouth needs to be proportionate with, not the inner corner of the irises

And the nose thing only applies to women, men need wider noses (not nigga noses, but wider than female noses)
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inb4 someone says bigonial width is proportionate to the 5 vertical facial line proportions
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Look at her mouth, what proportion can you see more clearly in your peripheral vision?
 
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bigonial width is the first thing that the mouth needs to be proportionate with, not the inner corner of the irises

And the nose thing only applies to women, men need wider noses (not nigga noses, but wider than female noses)
.

inb4 someone says bigonial width is proportionate to the 5 vertical facial line proportions
.

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Look at her mouth, what proportion can you see more clearly in your peripheral vision?
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@Deliciadecu atleast explain us why it's wrong lmao. It seems like you just wanna have a monopoly in the PSL circle and be the all knowing guy with his YT channel. OPs point is very good and most MM have ratios similar to these.
He doesn't even try to counter my evidence
 
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Doesn't change what I said

if she had a wider lower third it would look small
Lol no , if she had a wider fwhr , it would look small ... but if her fwhr increases then her ipd will increase too , thus increasing the lip width
 
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I hace
Tbh haven’t really measured it but seems average and possibly on the smaller side in most pictures (even if you just look at his eyes—on vio uso this wide mouth makes it look narrower in comparison)


Update:
•Using Iris as a constant
(male iris is 11.77mm t/- 0.37mm)
and double checking by comparing him and O’Pry (who’s IPD is about 68.2-4)....
Tim’s is about 60.03 mm
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So Tim is proof that a wide mouth on a narrow IPD...not only doesn’t always look bad, it can even look fantastic.
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Doing these measurements has made me value mouth aesthetics so much more now. Honestly top two most important areas to me are now eye area, and then mouth area.

Note: Tim appears to be puckering his lips in the image I used to measure his IPD. This doesn’t affect his IPD measurement whatsoever but it makes his lips only looks like they’re wide but still equal to his IPD... but in a truly natural pose and from a proper distance that fully eliminates Lens distortion, they’re actually just as wide as his IPD. AND his mouth looks even better in this picture, where it’s wider.
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I have 62mm ipd with wide lips
 
are you sure there is truth to this?
 
Mouth has to be wide to the middle of the pupils.

Nose width optimal can not be standardised, depend of the eyebrows shape, strong frown eyebrows require should be less spaced than prettyboy neutral or negativ eyebrows, while the nose is probably wider in the first case but the brows are closer which contradict the ideal measurement that was long ago thought as optimal.
To sum it: nose width can not be measured with eyebrows, since nose width optimal is consistent between men, but eyebrows depend strongly on the shape.
There is one nose archetype that mog every other ones, because it's related to jaw. The less crooked the less it is correlated with subhuman jaw, while for eyebrows it can vastly depend uncorrelated to eyebrows area and forward growth (or are the very least way less corelated)
 

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