Blackpill PSL debunked - This is the face white women consider ideal and by far the most attractive IRL - Keep coping with your compact midface, wide face

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Many people are misunderstanding what he means by “narrower face shape”.

A narrower than average skull is not ideal, especially not when combined with a long midface. That looks comical and repulsive.

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Neither is a wider than average skull, and especially not when combined with a short midface. That looks comical and repulsive.
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Ideal is average skull width and a medium length midface (.94-.99).

His profile picture is basically the ideal male face.

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I’ve already said this multiple times if you have tall square face ur a mentalcel
 
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Eyes nose lips are the most important
Compact midface is good just not too compact it looks like a child
 
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I agree with the premise of the original post and coincides with my extensive IRL observations. Again, the quickest way to find out if you have IRL appeal is to ask yourself “what was my laycount last year” “how do women react to me” “how easy is it for me to invite girls over from online dating apps”. In the end, it is about results. Not theory.
 
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You fucked up his mouth pretty bad crazy how even slight downturn can ruin your entire harmony. I have that as well might look into injections now jfl.
 
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(Skip to characteristics if TLDR)
A lot of PSL understanding of what constitutes an attractive face is still heavily flawed. A lot of people still place way too much importance on characteristics such as a wide, square jaw or a wide face in general when in reality people do not consider them desirable, further evidenced by the proven low IRL appeal of someone like Barrett. Another misguided belief is the necessity of a compact midface in order to be good looking. Again, faces people judge as the most attractive ITL are actually on the longer side and have midface ratios of around 0.95. The preferred IRL face has a kind of angelic appearance resulting from a narrow face shape with high cheekbones that gradually tapers into a V jawline and pointed chin. The following study is still one of the best to date and in my opinion the one that is most similar to my experiences and observations IRL. They basically established prototype very attractive faces that their test subjects consistently rated as extremely attractive. A lot of people will be familiar with this study but it really is most representative of IRL preferences.
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The study was done in Germany, so it is very useful for assessing the preferences of people with desirable and attractive phenotypes found in that region. In other words, what white people from central Europe consider ideal. If you want appeal to women with those phenotypes, these are the facial characteristics you should know are considered ideal and should aim for with your surgeries. Below are the preferred characteristics copied from the image so they are easier to read. Ones that are different from PSL idea of attractiveness are in bold, ones PSL agrees with are in standard font.

Characteristics that make an attractive face
  • Browner skin - pretty obvious, high collagen and Thom Strijd like complexion is seen as ideal here as well
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  • Narrower facial shape - One of the major differences with PSL ideology. Wide faces are NOT preferred IRL. Instead longer, narrower faces with better contouring around the cheek and jaw area are seen as ideal. The phenotype that matches this preference best is of course the North Atlantid.
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    While people on here might still disagree with mine and the study’s claims, the guy on the right would obviously be a terra Chad IRL and be able to slay the highest tier women on this planet - white Stacies
  • Less fat - also obvious
  • Fuller and more symmetrical lips - same as PSL
  • Darker eye brows - same as PSL
  • More and darker lashes - same as PSL
  • Upper half of the face broader in relation to the lower - This is again very different from PSL ideals. The ideal IRL face resembles an inverted triangle and there is a clear tapering off from the top to the bottom of face. This will give the face better contour around the cheekbones, jawline and chin and avoid a round or squared faced appearance.
  • Higher cheek bones - same as PSL
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  • Prominent lower jaw - not because it is overly wide, but because of the V taper. Women IRL often compliment certain guys’ on their jawlines when they do not match PSL criteria. Women IRL think someone like Beckham has a good jawline and his is very similar to the attractive prototype‘s face
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  • More prominent chin - PSL agrees with this for the most part, although IRL a more pointy chin is preferred instead of PSL square one
  • No receding brows - same as PSL
  • Thinner lids - Basically less UEE although some UEE still exists. So unsurprisingly no fully hooded hunter alien eyes
  • No wrinkles between nose and corner of the mouth - same as PSL, no nasolabial folds
Additional characteristics not stated below the images, but mentioned in the study or taken/measured from the prototype attractive face.

- No signs of balding - same as PSL
- ES ratio of around 0,46-0,47 - same as PSL
- Big Eyes (Almond Shape) with decent PFL - same as PSL, although they are not as vertically narrow. They are wide open with a lot
of iris show
- Normal sized philtrum -
not as short as PSL ideals but this is rather insignificant
- A slightly longish midface (0,95) - PSL prefers more compact midfaces, but often runs into contradictions as
lot of PSL gods have a 1,0 midface at best, often slightly below that

Link to the study (unfortunately is in German, but using translator should be fine. One of the most insightful studies on IRL attractiveness.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS EXTREMELY BLACKPILLED STUDY. Studies like that are rare.)

Personally, the study’s findings line up exactly with my observations IRL in a white country in central Europe. Guys that look similar to the prototype example in my experience do extremely well and get with a lot of extremely attractive women.
You can continue living your life in denial about IRL preferences and continue going after PSL ideals or never let this terra Chad’s face leave your mind
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This is the IRL ideal you need to try and achieve to attract angelic god tier white women. One more time. Behold the Terra Chad
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JFL IF YOU DON’T THINK THIS IS MAX IRL APPEAL
Holy shit that "chad prototype" has a brutal hairline. How the fuck is he considered ideal?! That's a NW2. Look how fucking old he looks to his version with a lower hairline and more compact on the temples.
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Holy shit that "chad prototype" has a brutal hairline. How the fuck is he considered ideal?! That's a NW2. Look how fucking old he looks to his version with a lower hairline and more compact on the temples.
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I can see it. I think the study did not really consider hair and instead focused on just the facial features. women might actually prefer a taller forehead though even if a smaller forehead seems ideal to men. Idk maybe low iq stereotype or something but forehead size was one variable with the tall variant winning out. (ignore the hair)
He definitely looks lower iq though with the lower hairline. Maybe that aspect is underrated and women actually consider these things
 
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@MaxillaIsEverything what about this morph? he was subhuman before but what a out after? he has an oval face like the man you keep posting but he has better eye area and a slightly sharper jaw.

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People overrate vertically narrow eyes here. If the eyes are too narrow, they give off an Asian vibe. Iris show like Cavill or O’Pry is ideal. Barrett’s eyes look borderline mongoloid
 
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JFL at calling this 2psl. Remember to actually click on the image because its a little distorted if you dont. But he looks better than the max irl appeal boneless chad.

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I can see it. I think the study did not really consider hair and instead focused on just the facial features. women might actually prefer a taller forehead though even if a smaller forehead seems ideal to men. Idk maybe low iq stereotype or something but forehead size was one variable with the tall variant winning out. (ignore the hair)
He definitely looks lower iq though with the lower hairline. Maybe that aspect is underrated and women actually consider these things
I think the morphed hairline was just unnaturally straight.

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I think girls would prefer the second.
 
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@MisterMercedes @MaxillaIsEverything which man would have more irl appeal? make sure you click on the morph i did because it looks uncanny and distorted around the eye area if you dont click on it.

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(Skip to characteristics if TLDR)
A lot of PSL understanding of what constitutes an attractive face is still heavily flawed. A lot of people still place way too much importance on characteristics such as a wide, square jaw or a wide face in general when in reality people do not consider them desirable, further evidenced by the proven low IRL appeal of someone like Barrett. Another misguided belief is the necessity of a compact midface in order to be good looking. Again, faces people judge as the most attractive ITL are actually on the longer side and have midface ratios of around 0.95. The preferred IRL face has a kind of angelic appearance resulting from a narrow face shape with high cheekbones that gradually tapers into a V jawline and pointed chin. The following study is still one of the best to date and in my opinion the one that is most similar to my experiences and observations IRL. They basically established prototype very attractive faces that their test subjects consistently rated as extremely attractive. A lot of people will be familiar with this study but it really is most representative of IRL preferences.
View attachment 811287
The study was done in Germany, so it is very useful for assessing the preferences of people with desirable and attractive phenotypes found in that region. In other words, what white people from central Europe consider ideal. If you want appeal to women with those phenotypes, these are the facial characteristics you should know are considered ideal and should aim for with your surgeries. Below are the preferred characteristics copied from the image so they are easier to read. Ones that are different from PSL idea of attractiveness are in bold, ones PSL agrees with are in standard font.

Characteristics that make an attractive face
  • Browner skin - pretty obvious, high collagen and Thom Strijd like complexion is seen as ideal here as well
    View attachment 811314
  • Narrower facial shape - One of the major differences with PSL ideology. Wide faces are NOT preferred IRL. Instead longer, narrower faces with better contouring around the cheek and jaw area are seen as ideal. The phenotype that matches this preference best is of course the North Atlantid.
    View attachment 811315View attachment 811316
    While people on here might still disagree with mine and the study’s claims, the guy on the right would obviously be a terra Chad IRL and be able to slay the highest tier women on this planet - white Stacies
  • Less fat - also obvious
  • Fuller and more symmetrical lips - same as PSL
  • Darker eye brows - same as PSL
  • More and darker lashes - same as PSL
  • Upper half of the face broader in relation to the lower - This is again very different from PSL ideals. The ideal IRL face resembles an inverted triangle and there is a clear tapering off from the top to the bottom of face. This will give the face better contour around the cheekbones, jawline and chin and avoid a round or squared faced appearance.
  • Higher cheek bones - same as PSL
    View attachment 811337
  • Prominent lower jaw - not because it is overly wide, but because of the V taper. Women IRL often compliment certain guys’ on their jawlines when they do not match PSL criteria. Women IRL think someone like Beckham has a good jawline and his is very similar to the attractive prototype‘s face
    View attachment 811323
  • More prominent chin - PSL agrees with this for the most part, although IRL a more pointy chin is preferred instead of PSL square one
  • No receding brows - same as PSL
  • Thinner lids - Basically less UEE although some UEE still exists. So unsurprisingly no fully hooded hunter alien eyes
  • No wrinkles between nose and corner of the mouth - same as PSL, no nasolabial folds
Additional characteristics not stated below the images, but mentioned in the study or taken/measured from the prototype attractive face.

- No signs of balding - same as PSL
- ES ratio of around 0,46-0,47 - same as PSL
- Big Eyes (Almond Shape) with decent PFL - same as PSL, although they are not as vertically narrow. They are wide open with a lot
of iris show
- Normal sized philtrum -
not as short as PSL ideals but this is rather insignificant
- A slightly longish midface (0,95) - PSL prefers more compact midfaces, but often runs into contradictions as
lot of PSL gods have a 1,0 midface at best, often slightly below that

Link to the study (unfortunately is in German, but using translator should be fine. One of the most insightful studies on IRL attractiveness.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS EXTREMELY BLACKPILLED STUDY. Studies like that are rare.)

Personally, the study’s findings line up exactly with my observations IRL in a white country in central Europe. Guys that look similar to the prototype example in my experience do extremely well and get with a lot of extremely attractive women.
You can continue living your life in denial about IRL preferences and continue going after PSL ideals or never let this terra Chad’s face leave your mind
View attachment 811330
This is the IRL ideal you need to try and achieve to attract angelic god tier white women. One more time. Behold the Terra Chad
View attachment 811349
JFL IF YOU DON’T THINK THIS IS MAX IRL APPEAL
Over for my 1.9 FWHR
 
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Face doesn't matter much irl as we think unless you're literally blue eyed gigachad. A 6'4 wide framed chadlite outslays 5'10 normal framed chad
kind of agree
I think that frame + height > face IRL but with how popular online dating and apps like Instagram face is becoming even more important than it already was
Tbh i think that voice for zoomers is even more important than frame since so much of their dating life is done on discord
 
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Years of progress has been made in this thread.

Biggest slayers have always been Harry Styles, Zayn, Bieber Chico. All tallish faces with average features.

Look at this absolute giga mogger by PSL standards.
Bones for days. Compact midface. Aesthetic af. Dimorphic af.

Yet no girls in the comments are getting wet for him. I couldn't find any, and if there must be very few if any. Yet on any pretty boy interview you'll find girls fawning.
 
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kind of agree
I think that frame + height > face IRL but with how popular online dating and apps like Instagram face is becoming even more important than it already was
Tbh i think that voice for zoomers is even more important than frame since so much of their dating life is done on discord
Wait what, elaborate on the discord? What kinda dating they be doing on discord lol
 
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Most of what you said is dead on and should already be standard knowledge for this forum. Women prefer these faces:

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Over this:

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And this:

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Yes but those guys have compact midfaces and good eye area. But lack those outlandish bones that people on these forums always worship so much. I dont understand why OP argues against good compact midfaces and then posts guys with exactly that.

FACIAL HARMONY AND EYE AREA>BONES
 
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