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I have never had any success with women even though I taller than most men and my jaw is also better than most men in my area but I still don't look good. What I really want to know is this: What features am I missing to be really good looking and do well on dating apps? I tried really hard to take the best pictures but I never got any matches that led anywhere even when I was wearing the best clothes or using the best camera equipment possible. I used to have a very bad underbite that I fixed with maxillofacial jaw surgery back in 2016, that definitely had an impact on my looks as you can see in my pictures. I have never been low body fat, I have always been skinny or skinny fat, so maybe my only problem is a matter of high body fat and low muscle mass but I don't really know. I am around 165 lbs at 6 foot 4, so maybe I am just a skinnycel/lanklet.
 

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Like I told you many times before (too many to count), I never said that I am a Chad. The reason why I joined this forum was to understand the reason why for all my life I thought something was off with my looks and I wasn't as good looking as I would have liked. So my rating thread is the main reason why I joined, I then decided to stay after when I saw how active this community is.

And I made a lot of posts explaining why I am a kissless virgin, it is because for the past 4 years, even though I could have gone to a lot of concerts, festivals, and events in general, I chose to stay isolated in my room because I thought that there would be a secret solution that would get me laid, I was lazy and didn't go out enough, I only went out to go to the gym, I was a gymcel basically and I was so obsessed with it that I would write so much about it on message boards and in youtube comment sections, which looking back on on it now, was a complete waste of my time.

My biggest mistake wasn't even that I didn't make noticeable progress in the gym, it was that I didn't go out enough to meet new people, talk to women, get dates and try to get laid. Also, at the very beginning I was completely clueless and blue pilled and it took me years to understand how it all works, I'm kind of a late bloomer in the sense that I didn't understand how to deal with women or social interactions in general until very recently. Because of that, I was afraid that even if I were to go out, it would not work, but even though I was clueless, if I had forced myself, I could have had some amount of success, I am sure of that.

At one point, I even had a girl in one of my classes who was constantly trying to get me to ask her out, but I was so shy and afraid that I told her that we could only be friends, it's truly pathetic. When I claim that I have more opportunities now and get IOIs from beautiful women, I mean that I am more attractive now than before, I don't mean that I am Chad. I know what IOIs are because it's not the first time that it happened to me, it's just that now it is more common, so it is going to be so much easier than it would have been 4 years ago, because I improved my looks a lot.

Right now the reason why I don't go out is because I can't, I could make an online dating profile but in my country, it's so dark during the winter and cold, that I wouldn't be able to take nice pictures outside, so if I did it, it would have to be selfies inside of my room which is quite boring and not original enough to do well with online dating. With so many guys on dating sites and such few women, I have to stand out, but I can't, I have nowhere to go to take interesting pictures. And I can't go out because the pandemic has closed down all bars, clubs, festivals and events. Montreal is known as a party city, but right now there are no parties. When things go back to normal, I'll start going out a lot.

So right now, I am better off looksmaxxing and preparing myself for when covid19 ends, I know that I want to SEAmax and I want to travel to many places and I want to do some scuba diving also and become divemaster. For that, I will need to have enough money and to prepare my trip in advance, so soon, when the holidays begin, I will get a full time job that pays a bit more than minimum wage, and I'll keep working until I have over 10 000$, then I'll start my trip. If COVID19 ends before then, I will go out at least once per week in the meantime while waiting for another holiday, I plan to travel at every holiday afterwards and use my divemaster job to minimize my spending during each trip. At the same time, when I am back home, I'll be gymmaxxing, so my looks will improve.

By doing all of that, my number of opportunities to get laid will increase by a lot and my looks will improve at the same time, and I'll be getting closer and closer to getting my bachelor's degree in computer science, and then I'll pick a high paying job where I can work remotely on my computer, then I will be able to travel the world while working, that is my ultimate goal. And I will be able to go to any country that I want and by using tinder, I'll be able to have sex with the local women. I already have a list of all the places I want to go to, and by the way, England, Ireland, and Scotland are also on my list since I have only visited London in my life and I want to see more of it. I am a huge fan of british history, especially the viking raid time period which is what led to the kingdoms being brought together under 1 king called Athelstan.
 
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Not attractive but you have a pretty masculine face, if you are struggling on dating apps at 6'5 you may have actual autism I suggest going to the doctor.
 
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@copingvolcel Lmao nigga why do you look so autistic all the time? I can't figure out what on your face makes you look like that
It depends on what is preventing you from getting laid. I mean, if you're just working all the time back home and you never go out but you're not ugly and you don't have Asperger's, then getting laid while travelling will definitely be doable. What you don't realize is that a lot of guys are incels due to a lack of opportunity, when you travel, you get more opportunities than you could have ever gotten before, but a fat guy or a very low functioning autist is still going to remain an incel, most guys are not like that though.
I never said I was getting laid, I was too young for that at the time anyways. But I know what travelling the world feels like because I have done it and I know that anyone who travels the way that I have done it would feel the same. There is a huge difference between going on a guided tour to a country in western Europe while staying at a hotel in a room alone VS going alone off the beaten path as a backpacker throughout Europe or Asia while staying in hostels. Getting laid while staying at hostels is easy, there are a lot of female backpackers who are very slutty and just looking to get laid and have fun while travelling, it depends on where you're staying.

Since most guys don't know this, like you think, they would not get laid more abroad than back home but that's only because they're not in the right places. I know about hostels because I have stayed in hostels with my family while on a trip around the world since we were on a budget and a lot of backpackers were doing weed and having lots of sex (not in public of course, but it was easy to know). Those who stay in hotels are not going to get as good of an experience as those who stay in hostels. It's impossible not to get laid if you go on a long trip and stay in hostels unless you are fat or you are a low functioning autist but if you were really that mentally ill then you wouldn't be able to travel on your own anyways so it's really all about not being fat and that's easy.
No, I watch only heterosexual porn with real women in it, but I watch clips where the acting is better, nothing is as unsatisfying as low quality acting from the pornstars, some clips have better acting and the women seem more real, this is especially the case in amateur porn which is what I love about it. The more fake it feels, the less satisfying it is, and vice versa.
Tbh, I shouldn't expect so much from an incel forum because that's literally what the black pill is, it's just a synonym for incel. And although you believe that looks are everything, I have met many so called "subhumans" or manlets who destroyed your theory that looks are everything. Also, I forget that the vast majority of you are just teenagers, while I am 22 so I really shouldn't have even asked for your opinion.
 
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I have never had any success with women even though I taller than most men and my jaw is also better than most men in my area but I still don't look good. What I really want to know is this: What features am I missing to be really good looking and do well on dating apps? I tried really hard to take the best pictures but I never got any matches that led anywhere even when I was wearing the best clothes or using the best camera equipment possible. I used to have a very bad underbite that I fixed with maxillofacial jaw surgery back in 2016, that definitely had an impact on my looks as you can see in my pictures. I have never been low body fat, I have always been skinny or skinny fat, so maybe my only problem is a matter of high body fat and low muscle mass but I don't really know. I am around 165 lbs at 6 foot 4, so maybe I am just a skinnycel/lanklet.

PSL 4.5 tbh. You are average. Not Chad but not ugly. Nothing striking about you. Use your height to your advantage. Good luck
 
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I have never had any success with women even though I taller than most men and my jaw is also better than most men in my area but I still don't look good. What I really want to know is this: What features am I missing to be really good looking and do well on dating apps? I tried really hard to take the best pictures but I never got any matches that led anywhere even when I was wearing the best clothes or using the best camera equipment possible. I used to have a very bad underbite that I fixed with maxillofacial jaw surgery back in 2016, that definitely had an impact on my looks as you can see in my pictures. I have never been low body fat, I have always been skinny or skinny fat, so maybe my only problem is a matter of high body fat and low muscle mass but I don't really know. I am around 165 lbs at 6 foot 4, so maybe I am just a skinnycel/lanklet.
3.75 psl face
Your hight makes u 4.25 psl
 
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nice copypasta from @copingvolcel
 
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Nice shitpost I'll answer unironically tho

Underbite = recessed maxilla shit facial development it's beyond fucking over
No it's not, 10/10 male models are extremely rare, most guys in my area are uglier or shorter than me, I may not be the hottest guy but I'm far from being the ugliest guy. I made that thread because I desperately wanted to succeed with women no matter the cost, I wasted over a thousand dollars on clothes and a camera and it didn't even change anything.

However, I did end up learning the real reason why I was getting no matches. It's because women who want to hookup have so many options that they will only pick the men who have a lot of sex appeal, and most of the time those men tend to be muscular and older than them, so with a baby face and a skinny body, I don't even stand a chance. But, after 3 years of gymmaxxing and getting older, I believe that Tinder will become extremely easy.

Also, what this forum doesn't realize is that women judge men differently when seeking a relationship than when seeking a hookup, guys for relationships don't need sex appeal, but guys for hookups do, so the women that I thought were checking me out were actually interested in me but not for casual sex, but for a relationship, because they were single and they wanted a new boyfriend and since I was the tallest guy in the room and I look like a nice loyal guy, they see me as a good choice.

Since it is very rare to get a good girlfriend (who isn't crazy) from dating apps and most of them seek hookups but I only look good for relationships, it makes sense that I was unable to get any success from tinder, I would do far better if I talked to women during the day in real life. I used the quarantine as an excuse but guys on the TRP subreddit still approach women during the day while wearing a mask, it hasn't stopped them so I could do the same.

The reason why I never tried cold approaching before is because I didn't know all the steps and I still don't and it's because it's impossible to have a perfect gameplan when you've never even done it once, so I should just make small steps towards my goal by just approaching women and starting conversations and then I can aim higher. And since I now know that women see me as a potential boyfriend but not hot enough for hookups, it puts things into perspective, it means that I can get a really hot girlfriend but if I went to bars or clubs, I would fail really badly. Gymmaxxing will give me all the sex appeal that I need but in the meantime, if I can get a girlfriend, that would allow me to get some experience with women and I can achieve this by cold approaching women.

Right now, all the clothing stores and malls are closed in my area but they will reopen in around 1 week and a half and when they do, that will be my opportunity to go out and talk to women, and to not look like a PUA, I will have to make indirect approaches. By doing this I am sure that I will be able to get a 7/10 or 8/10 girlfriend before next summer.
 
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No it's not, 10/10 male models are extremely rare, most guys in my area are uglier or shorter than me, I may not be the hottest guy but I'm far from being the ugliest guy. I made that thread because I desperately wanted to succeed with women no matter the cost, I wasted over a thousand dollars on clothes and a camera and it didn't even change anything.

However, I did end up learning the real reason why I was getting no matches. It's because women who want to hookup have so many

you look normie & got very very normie ideologies & mentality but you look autistc & skinny frame that's ur only failos, ur lo wtier normie rn, change that and u get to high tier normie if gymcel
 
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whats the "i let that happen" quote from plz
 
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No it's not, 10/10 male models are extremely rare, most guys in my area are uglier or shorter than me, I may not be the hottest guy but I'm far from being the ugliest guy. I made that thread because I desperately wanted to succeed with women no matter the cost, I wasted over a thousand dollars on clothes and a camera and it didn't even change anything.

However, I did end up learning the real reason why I was getting no matches. It's because women who want to hookup have so many options that they will only pick the men who have a lot of sex appeal, and most of the time those men tend to be muscular and older than them, so with a baby face and a skinny body, I don't even stand a chance. But, after 3 years of gymmaxxing and getting older, I believe that Tinder will become extremely easy.

Also, what this forum doesn't realize is that women judge men differently when seeking a relationship than when seeking a hookup, guys for relationships don't need sex appeal, but guys for hookups do, so the women that I thought were checking me out were actually interested in me but not for casual sex, but for a relationship, because they were single and they wanted a new boyfriend and since I was the tallest guy in the room and I look like a nice loyal guy, they see me as a good choice.

Since it is very rare to get a good girlfriend (who isn't crazy) from dating apps and most of them seek hookups but I only look good for relationships, it makes sense that I was unable to get any success from tinder, I would do far better if I talked to women during the day in real life. I used the quarantine as an excuse but guys on the TRP subreddit still approach women during the day while wearing a mask, it hasn't stopped them so I could do the same.

The reason why I never tried cold approaching before is because I didn't know all the steps and I still don't and it's because it's impossible to have a perfect gameplan when you've never even done it once, so I should just make small steps towards my goal by just approaching women and starting conversations and then I can aim higher. And since I now know that women see me as a potential boyfriend but not hot enough for hookups, it puts things into perspective, it means that I can get a really hot girlfriend but if I went to bars or clubs, I would fail really badly. Gymmaxxing will give me all the sex appeal that I need but in the meantime, if I can get a girlfriend, that would allow me to get some experience with women and I can achieve this by cold approaching women.

Right now, all the clothing stores and malls are closed in my area but they will reopen in around 1 week and a half and when they do, that will be my opportunity to go out and talk to women, and to not look like a PUA, I will have to make indirect approaches. By doing this I am sure that I will be able to get a 7/10 or 8/10 girlfriend before next summer.
you bought your own DSLR to take these pics ? your clothes do look good tbh
 
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you look normie & got very very normie ideologies & mentality but you look autistc & skinny frame that's ur only failos, ur lo wtier normie rn, change that and u get to high tier normie if gymcel
The way I see it, without gymmaxxing I can get a hot girlfriend, with gymmaxxing I can get hookups every month with beautiful women without having to commit to them. I am gymmaxxing right now, I know what I need to do and I am focusing on that and it is working really well. I won't do any surgeries for my face though, my bimax was enough imo.
 
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The way I see it, without gymmaxxing I can get a hot girlfriend, with gymmaxxing I can get hookups every month with beautiful women without having to commit to them. I am gymmaxxing right now, I know what I need to do and I am focusing on that and it is working really well. I won't do any surgeries for my face though, my bimax was enough imo.
in all honesty I don't think you gonna get a hot girlfriend bro, even I won't get a hot gilfriend but hey, if u want to try ur hard its all ima say
 
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you bought your own DSLR to take these pics ? your clothes do look good tbh
Yeah, I bought my own DSLR but since I live in eastern Canada, the lighting outside is really bad most of the time, I took those photos on a cloudy day and they were so dark that I had to add artificial lighting but I overdid it so it looks weird, the real picture didn't look like that though. And I found out why I look aspie, it's because I stare directly at the lens of the camera with a fake smile, I managed to fix it by not looking directly at the lens and not smiling as much.


My blue coat only cost me around 30$, but my leather jacket cost around 500$ since it is real leather, what I didn't realize at the time though is that the clothes that you wear don't even matter. Tinder is mostly for hookups and to hookup you need sex appeal, the best way to have sex appeal is to be muscular and to do cool stuff in your photos, if you have neither of these things, tinder won't work for you, even if you're really tall. Women would rather hookup with a 5 foot 10 muscular guy than a 6 foot 4 skinny guy, but they would rather date a 6 foot 4 skinny guy, that is what I have noticed. So right now, my look is good enough to get a girlfriend, but not good enough for hookups. Some skinny guys do hookup but it's because they have a cool lifestyle to make up for their lack of muscle mass, I don't even have that so I don't stand a chance.
 
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in all honesty I don't think you gonna get a hot girlfriend bro, even I won't get a hot gilfriend but hey, if u want to try ur hard its all ima say
I know my worth because I have seen the way that some really hot women look at me, they really want me to talk to them and those IOIs are real, but I ruin every opportunity because I have no experience, it's the kind of catch-22 where you need experience to be good at it, but to get experience, you need to be good. The truth though is that it's okay to be bad at it at first, and if I really try to talk to more women, I'll get better at it and I'll eventually be good enough at it to be able to get a lot of dates which will allow me to get a girlfriend really quickly.

When I say I can get a hot girlfriend, I don't mean 10/10 stacy who is also tall, I mean 7-8/10 short woman, but that is still far better than what most guys are able to get.

My social skills are the main reason why I don't have a girlfriend, I'm not actually aspie, I'm just inexperienced.
 
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Shouldn’t have problem with your height if you are NT. face is decent.
 
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What features am I missing to be really good looking and do well on dating apps?
Your midface is quite deficient, which makes your eyes and your overall look very unhealthy and unmasculine. Its not a youthful appearance. You need infraorbital malar implants and a face lift.
 
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Don't take this an an insult, I'm not great looking and have plenty of things I'm working on and when I was your age I was 100% incel because of my looks (tall and skinny like you).

RATING: 2/10 IRL

ADVICE:

Hair Transplant for your hairline
GymMax
(Don't just mindlessly go to the gym, read books, research, etc.)
HealthMax - Skin and overall health looks sickly and aged. I'm not sure what you're nutrition is like but you could be deficient in some micronutrient. There are apps where you can track all of your foods and weigh them to track all of you macro and micro nutrients to see if you're deficient in anything. Also sleep max with sleep journal if that's an issue. HealthMaxing is a deep subject so you can keep researching this area and making improvements if you choose.

THE GOOD: (Things that you are doing well with)

Fashion
Posture
Jaw, Nose, Mid Face Proportion,

OTHER:

Your plan to GymMax and then ApproachMax sounds good. Girls looking at you are one thing, but if you don't pursue women you can't know if you are good looking or not. Guys on here can't tell you that, and women can't honestly tell you it either.

The girls looking at you could be expecting validation thinking you look like a simp, or they could be looking at you because you look unique but not attractive. I tend to stare at fat chicks because it's interesting watching them waddle around in their depressed states, but I wouldn't want any of them to try to talk to me. If you're not NT, maybe even learn game (from other websites) so you have some structure to follow.

But if the day comes where you've done thousands of approaches and been rejected by all of the women, keep looks maxing.
 
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No it's not, 10/10 male models are extremely rare, most guys in my area are uglier or shorter than me, I may not be the hottest guy but I'm far from being the ugliest guy. I made that thread because I desperately wanted to succeed with women no matter the cost, I wasted over a thousand dollars on clothes and a camera and it didn't even change anything.

However, I did end up learning the real reason why I was getting no matches. It's because women who want to hookup have so many options that they will only pick the men who have a lot of sex appeal, and most of the time those men tend to be muscular and older than them, so with a baby face and a skinny body, I don't even stand a chance. But, after 3 years of gymmaxxing and getting older, I believe that Tinder will become extremely easy.

Also, what this forum doesn't realize is that women judge men differently when seeking a relationship than when seeking a hookup, guys for relationships don't need sex appeal, but guys for hookups do, so the women that I thought were checking me out were actually interested in me but not for casual sex, but for a relationship, because they were single and they wanted a new boyfriend and since I was the tallest guy in the room and I look like a nice loyal guy, they see me as a good choice.

Since it is very rare to get a good girlfriend (who isn't crazy) from dating apps and most of them seek hookups but I only look good for relationships, it makes sense that I was unable to get any success from tinder, I would do far better if I talked to women during the day in real life. I used the quarantine as an excuse but guys on the TRP subreddit still approach women during the day while wearing a mask, it hasn't stopped them so I could do the same.

The reason why I never tried cold approaching before is because I didn't know all the steps and I still don't and it's because it's impossible to have a perfect gameplan when you've never even done it once, so I should just make small steps towards my goal by just approaching women and starting conversations and then I can aim higher. And since I now know that women see me as a potential boyfriend but not hot enough for hookups, it puts things into perspective, it means that I can get a really hot girlfriend but if I went to bars or clubs, I would fail really badly. Gymmaxxing will give me all the sex appeal that I need but in the meantime, if I can get a girlfriend, that would allow me to get some experience with women and I can achieve this by cold approaching women.

Right now, all the clothing stores and malls are closed in my area but they will reopen in around 1 week and a half and when they do, that will be my opportunity to go out and talk to women, and to not look like a PUA, I will have to make indirect approaches. By doing this I am sure that I will be able to get a 7/10 or 8/10 girlfriend before next summer.

This is a normal post that makes a lot of sense.. very rare on here
 
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Brutal brutal brutal brutal eye area. Honestly bone of the most subhuman eye areas ever. Definitely not volcel
 
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Brutal brutal brutal brutal eye area. Honestly bone of the most subhuman eye areas ever. Definitely not volcel
Yeah its def bad, but not terrible. RTT could hard ascend this guy tbh, along with hair fraud/transplant.
 
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Brutal brutal brutal brutal eye area. Honestly bone of the most subhuman eye areas ever. Definitely not volcel
he is good looking overall and is a virgin by choice
he mogs me hard
 
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I have never had any success with women even though I taller than most men and my jaw is also better than most men in my area but I still don't look good. What I really want to know is this: What features am I missing to be really good looking and do well on dating apps? I tried really hard to take the best pictures but I never got any matches that led anywhere even when I was wearing the best clothes or using the best camera equipment possible. I used to have a very bad underbite that I fixed with maxillofacial jaw surgery back in 2016, that definitely had an impact on my looks as you can see in my pictures. I have never been low body fat, I have always been skinny or skinny fat, so maybe my only problem is a matter of high body fat and low muscle mass but I don't really know. I am around 165 lbs at 6 foot 4, so maybe I am just a skinnycel/lanklet.
Not sure what it is about you but something just seems off like your face body stance it looks uncomfortable like this is your first time in your body. Maybe you look too plain and if I get that from your pics girls will definitely pick up on it maybe your just trying to hard. Try loosening up you look tense and robotic. You look like you will tell a female "hey you know tattoos lower your psl" not sure how to word it but you give off "loser vibes" not trying to be mean but try going to the gym and looking like you care less and get better at posing in pictures.

bright side is your definitely not ugly
just average. honestly sometimes that could be even worst
 
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I have never had any success with women even though I taller than most men and my jaw is also better than most men in my area but I still don't look good. What I really want to know is this: What features am I missing to be really good looking and do well on dating apps? I tried really hard to take the best pictures but I never got any matches that led anywhere even when I was wearing the best clothes or using the best camera equipment possible. I used to have a very bad underbite that I fixed with maxillofacial jaw surgery back in 2016, that definitely had an impact on my looks as you can see in my pictures. I have never been low body fat, I have always been skinny or skinny fat, so maybe my only problem is a matter of high body fat and low muscle mass but I don't really know. I am around 165 lbs at 6 foot 4, so maybe I am just a skinnycel/lanklet.
You have the same dumb expression in all the pics. You need to gain at least 2 stone. Hit the gym and practice posing. Average face in these pics.
 
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Daily reminder not to post your pics here
 
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@chadison
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(DISCLAIMER: My posts are high effort because if they weren't, I wouldn't see the point in posting here. I post essays because I feel like the better I can explain the situation, the more help I can receive and for that, I need to do longer posts.)


When compared to the average male in my country which are considered subhuman by this forum, I am very good looking. It's just when I compare myself to male models and famous hollywood actors that I think I am ugly. I realized this when looking at the people in my zoom meetings in college, not once have I seen a guy who is good looking or even just at my level, and it's the same for most of the girls and I say this as a guy who has low standards.

Since women judge men based on what is available and not the gold standard of hollywood actors and high end male modelling, I am considered to be way above average in looks and since I am also very tall, I shouldn't have any trouble getting laid if I talked to women.

What you guys don't understand is that I am not photogenic at all so when I take a picture of myself or someone else takes one of me, I always look much worse than in real life. The picture where I am in front of a mirror and I look like I have no upper lip was taken before my jaw surgery and at the time, I really looked much uglier than average and my self confidence took a long time to recover even after the surgery because I still didn't think I was good enough. That was a mistake that I regretted when the pandemic happened because after that, I really had no way of meeting new women.


While it is true that I'm not a volcel, I am in fact a mentalcel since I have ADHD and I have high functioning autism, I can socialize as well as normal people but whenever I try to make decisions about my life, I often make the wrong choices and end up not achieving anything. Since 2015, I haven't even finish pre university (something we do here between high school and college).
And, even though I started lifting in 2016, my laziness has caused me to stay at the same level for all those years and this is due to my mental illness, it is not coincidental, that is why I chose the username of "copingvolcel", because although I act like a volcel by avoiding women, I don't actually want to stay alone and I know that the more I wait to do anything, the more likely I am to become an oldcel in the future and by then, it will be too late, this is why I joined this site.



I am still going to gymmax, but as we all know, the face is what matters the most and now I know that in my case, my face is good enough to succeed.

As for my hair, it's not what it looks like, my hairline is v shaped because I have a widow's peak, it is NOT like a receding hairline. I have very thick hair when it is longer, and since a couple months ago, I have started to let my hair grow and it really makes me look a lot better. Soon, when it will be long enough I will see a hair stylist to thin the hair to match the exact look of my avi (Tom Welling in the first seasons of Smallville) and by that point, I'll be fully hairmaxxed.

Just now, compared to before I look a lot better, it is thanks to this forum that I realized that long hair mogs short hair, especially for my type of face.

Apart from gymmaxxing, I also want to get advice on skin care to remove all the acne scars from my face and my body and get rid of some acne pimples that I have right now so that my skin will be at its best.
 
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It sounds like you're looking for some advise from your post and you tagged me so...

Remove Facial Scars:

1) Glycolic Peels
- Cheap option. To be safe buy a PH balancer to apply afterwards to neutralize the peel.
2) laser resurfacing - More expensive but better results.

Gym Maxing:

Measure your Strength every Week & Change only one Thing at a time.

After your noob gains it becomes very difficult to continue gaining muscle. You need to get scientific and experiment with macro-ratios, rest time, and other lifestyle factors. Most things you try will not work. The extra benefit to this is that when you find some tweak that helps you gain more muscle, more than likely it's also making you healthier overall. The amount of muscle you can gain without drugs is often an indicator of overall health.

Photogenetic:

If you really are less photogenetic than in real life, then I suggest you find guides online on social circle maxing. I don't do social circles so I can't give you advise on this, but it seems like the best solution to your problem. You should be able to date higher quality women via social circle than clubs, bars, day-game, or online dating. Again, it's too much work for me so I don't do it but I'm sure there are guides online.
 
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It sounds like you're looking for some advise from your post and you tagged me so...

Remove Facial Scars:

1) Glycolic Peels
- Cheap option. To be safe buy a PH balancer to apply afterwards to neutralize the peel.
2) laser resurfacing - More expensive but better results.

Gym Maxing:

Measure your Strength every Week & Change only one Thing at a time.

After your noob gains it becomes very difficult to continue gaining muscle. You need to get scientific and experiment with macro-ratios, rest time, and other lifestyle factors. Most things you try will not work. The extra benefit to this is that when you find some tweak that helps you gain more muscle, more than likely it's also making you healthier overall. The amount of muscle you can gain without drugs is often an indicator of overall health.

Photogenetic:

If you really are less photogenetic than in real life, then I suggest you find guides online on social circle maxing. I don't do social circles so I can't give you advise on this, but it seems like the best solution to your problem. You should be able to date higher quality women via social circle than clubs, bars, day-game, or online dating. Again, it's too much work for me so I don't do it but I'm sure there are guides online.
@copingvolcel (tagging since this isn't his thread).

This is what I wish the forum was. Honest posts about improving instead of shit posting. I'll try to share everything I know about what you mentioned, although I am only 19 so I'm not that wise in everything, yet.

The first paragraph is mostly true. While I go to a high-class university where I live, many of the men, and women, are noticeably less good-looking than I am. This is why when I was rated average here, I realized that many men have it pretty bad in the dating market (I don't have that much success being a high tier normie). Maybe I'll have a bit more after my rhino in May, but ultimately there's only so much you can change about yourself, small looks max steps throughout months and years. It's a journey, not an instantaneous transformation. I indeed had trouble accepting that I couldn't just reappear as a chad when I found the blackpill.

Looking at you, your face is around average. Moreso slightly over average. However, your height and potential frame (filled out with muscle after gym ceiling) would certainly put you above average, probably enough to be around 90th percentile in SMV, assuming you had a decent job. At that point, you aren't as limited by looks in the dating market, and can certainly experience notable success. I'm also not photogenic at all, but that doesn't mean you can't succeed in real life, as @AutismMaxing mentioned. I also have similar mental issues, not autism and ADHD but moreso high inhibition and non-NT behaviour in social situations due to social isolation as a child and abusive parents. I've had no one to support me through most of my life, and that lead me to becoming closed off to the world; an non-emotional robot, if you will. Like Spock. You need to realise that a lot of what this site says is exaggerated-the real world is so nuanced that there is no "one size fits all" theory to understand attraction. For years, out of my desire to control my surroundings as a defense mechanism due to being abused, I would try to formulate theories and predict people. Recently, however, I have realized that this is simply impossible. The world and human thought process is too complicated for another human to accurately quantify and predict using empirical measurements and probabilistic distributions based on human nature. This led me to becoming bitter as I hated human nature for its barbaric, animalistic qualities. I am still closed off to sex and women (and a lot of men). I tend to hang out around guys like me, high IQ nerds. That's truly who I relate to best due to my past experiences. I am striving to make a change to this, however, as I know that harboring resentment towards people for their nature and how they were born is not moralistically right. I would remind you to minimize your usage here and live out in the world. Develop routines that work best for getting things done each day and making progress each day-spinning your wheels just puts you even further down the rabbit hole and you end up back here, doing nothing good for the world. I truly wish you best of luck man. You have a solid base, at this point you have a choice to accept what you were given and make the best of it or stay confined in a mental asylum here. Your autism and ADHD, unless clinically diagnosed, aren't excuses to not at least give life a shot. I think you could make a life worth living if you grinded academically and looksmaxxed fora few years. For most people (except chad), being good looking and having a good life takes years of grinding. This is something we must recognize.

Blast RetinA prescription on your acne areas and stay true to a skin routine 2x a day, every day counts. Use a good exfoliator wash and a moisturizer. If I lose consistency in my wash routine, I get acne quick.

I will be making a comprehensive gym thread (look at my account description). I'll tag u in it. It will cover every single facet to gymmaxxing ones' body.
 
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@copingvolcel (tagging since this isn't his thread).

This is what I wish the forum was. Honest posts about improving instead of shit posting. I'll try to share everything I know about what you mentioned, although I am only 19 so I'm not that wise in everything, yet.

The first paragraph is mostly true. While I go to a high-class university where I live, many of the men, and women, are noticeably less good-looking than I am. This is why when I was rated average here, I realized that many men have it pretty bad in the dating market (I don't have that much success being a high tier normie). Maybe I'll have a bit more after my rhino in May, but ultimately there's only so much you can change about yourself, small looks max steps throughout months and years. It's a journey, not an instantaneous transformation. I indeed had trouble accepting that I couldn't just reappear as a chad when I found the blackpill.

Looking at you, your face is around average. Moreso slightly over average. However, your height and potential frame (filled out with muscle after gym ceiling) would certainly put you above average, probably enough to be around 90th percentile in SMV, assuming you had a decent job. At that point, you aren't as limited by looks in the dating market, and can certainly experience notable success. I'm also not photogenic at all, but that doesn't mean you can't succeed in real life, as @AutismMaxing mentioned. I also have similar mental issues, not autism and ADHD but moreso high inhibition and non-NT behaviour in social situations due to social isolation as a child and abusive parents. I've had no one to support me through most of my life, and that lead me to becoming closed off to the world; an non-emotional robot, if you will. Like Spock. You need to realise that a lot of what this site says is exaggerated-the real world is so nuanced that there is no "one size fits all" theory to understand attraction. For years, out of my desire to control my surroundings as a defense mechanism due to being abused, I would try to formulate theories and predict people. Recently, however, I have realized that this is simply impossible. The world and human thought process is too complicated for another human to accurately quantify and predict using empirical measurements and probabilistic distributions based on human nature. This led me to becoming bitter as I hated human nature for its barbaric, animalistic qualities. I am still closed off to sex and women (and a lot of men). I tend to hang out around guys like me, high IQ nerds. That's truly who I relate to best due to my past experiences. I am striving to make a change to this, however, as I know that harboring resentment towards people for their nature and how they were born is not moralistically right. I would remind you to minimize your usage here and live out in the world. Develop routines that work best for getting things done each day and making progress each day-spinning your wheels just puts you even further down the rabbit hole and you end up back here, doing nothing good for the world. I truly wish you best of luck man. You have a solid base, at this point you have a choice to accept what you were given and make the best of it or stay confined in a mental asylum here. Your autism and ADHD, unless clinically diagnosed, aren't excuses to not at least give life a shot. I think you could make a life worth living if you grinded academically and looksmaxxed fora few years. For most people (except chad), being good looking and having a good life takes years of grinding. This is something we must recognize.

Blast RetinA prescription on your acne areas and stay true to a skin routine 2x a day, every day counts. Use a good exfoliator wash and a moisturizer. If I lose consistency in my wash routine, I get acne quick.

I will be making a comprehensive gym thread (look at my account description). I'll tag u in it. It will cover every single facet to gymmaxxing ones' body.
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