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You don't get tonsil stones.

Still remember what I had to go through when I ate cheese products.
Terrible mouth smell, pain, bleeding of my tonsils and vomiting. Truly horrendous.
 
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Hmm1


I not have tonsils.
 
Bacon and eggs are too good to give up. Sorry.
 
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Non veg is :feelstastyman::feelstastyman::feelstastyman:
 
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Reason #1 to eat meat. Natty gains
 
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Sounds Jewy
 
Lmao jews pushing this vegan bullshit with their made up clinical studies so they can make u eat soy for protein and then become a soyboy to fit their emasculation agenda, keep eating soy soyboy twink imma stick to my juicy steaks and peri peri chicken me feminist
@Nibba tbh tbh tbh:feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
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Lol im not giving up whey protein and red meat.
 
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Stop pushing that cuck diet. Humans evolved eating animal products.
 
no man. Miss me with that gay shit
 
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I think thats fucking allergic reaction
 
Stop pushing that cuck diet. Humans evolved eating animal products.


Lmao jews pushing this vegan bullshit with their made up clinical studies so they can make u eat soy for protein and then become a soyboy to fit their emasculation agenda, keep eating soy soyboy twink imma stick to my juicy steaks and peri peri chicken me feminist
@Nibba tbh tbh tbh:feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope:
jfl anti vegan propaganda is pushed way more than veganism. Also all those "cholesterol doesn't cause heart attacks" and "soy is bad" studies are funded by the dairy/egg/meat industry and if you actually take a look at their study designs you will see that those studies are pure bs. The studies vegans are referencing are independent studies .
 
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jfl anti vegan propaganda is pushed way more than veganism. Also all those "cholesterol doesn't cause heart attacks" and "soy is bad" studies are funded by the dairy/egg/meat industry and if you actually take a look at their study designs you will see that those studies are pure bs. The studies vegans are referencing are independent studies .

And? What about that video? Cholesterol isn’t bad in itself. Veganism is unhealthy.
 
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no but adding extra cholesterol through diet ist bad. Your body produces all the cholesterol it needs.

the data says otherwise.
cry more soyboy
 
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Lmao jews pushing this vegan bullshit with their made up clinical studies so they can make u eat soy for protein and then become a soyboy to fit their emasculation agenda, keep eating soy soyboy twink imma stick to my juicy steaks and peri peri chicken me feminist
@Nibba tbh tbh tbh:feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope:
This. Why do you think levels of testosterone in men have halved since the 70s?
 
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no but adding extra cholesterol through diet ist bad. Your body produces all the cholesterol it needs.

the data says otherwise.
What data? Please tell me. Vegan diet lacks many vitamins and nutrients and vitamins are needed in order to be healthy.
 
This. Why do you think levels of testosterone in men have halved since the 70s?
It has nothing to do with veganism. Less than 2 % of the population is vegan and if you look at studies comparing hormone levels of vegans to vegetarians and meat eaters vegans had the highest T levels on average even after adjusting for BMI.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-6691152a.pdf
What data? Please tell me. Vegan diet lacks many vitamins and nutrients and vitamins are needed in order to be healthy.
Vegans have the lowest death rate and there is not a single vitamin or nutrient that you can't get on a vegan diet(exception is b12 but the only reason your meat has b12 is because they supplement it to the animals).
 
Lmao jews pushing this vegan bullshit with their made up clinical studies so they can make u eat soy for protein and then become a soyboy to fit their emasculation agenda, keep eating soy soyboy twink imma stick to my juicy steaks and peri peri chicken me feminist
@Nibba tbh tbh tbh:feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope:
:clap: x100000
If he wants to have a weak soyboy physique and mind let him.
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You don't get tonsil stones.

Still remember what I had to go through when I ate cheese products.
Terrible mouth smell, pain, bleeding of my tonsils and vomiting. Truly horrendous.
Is this all you talk about? Also I never have these problems lol
 
yeah look at this weak vegan soyboy setting strongman world recordsView attachment 6049
>Using strongmen who probably avoid soy to represent the average vegan population who drinks estrogen by the liter (@Veganist and u)
Great argument take my updoot friend!! :soy::soy::soy:
 
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>Using strongmen who probably avoid soy to represent the average vegan population who drinks estrogen by the liter (@Veganist and u)
He doesn't avoid soy. He even once said in an interview that he used to eat a ton of tofu. Also soy is a meme it doesn't affect your hormone levels and you don't have to eat it if you don't like it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2691652/pdf/dmp010.pdf https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(10)00368-7/pdf https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19325037.2014.997941?
 
He doesn't avoid soy. He even once said in an interview that he used to eat a ton of tofu. Also soy is a meme it doesn't affect your hormone levels and you don't have to eat it if you don't like it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2691652/pdf/dmp010.pdf https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(10)00368-7/pdf https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19325037.2014.997941?
Even if that was true (which multiple other studies have shown it isn't), why would anyone make it harder on themselves to get their protein in?

Eating meat is the natural way of life. If you don't like it that's fine but don't push your Jew agenda on me.

Notice how all of the arguments that are started in the dieting industry are started by fucking vegans? Just let other people eat how they fucking want to
 
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U wanna look like an alien frog mix
Theres+this+guy+on+youtube+called+vegan+gains+typical+vegan+_87c1394689de22c6e236e4713939f289.jpg
 
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Even if that was true (which multiple other studies have shown it isn't), why would anyone make it harder on themselves to get their protein in?

Eating meat is the natural way of life. If you don't like it that's fine but don't push your Jew agenda on me.

Notice how all of the arguments that are started in the dieting industry are started by fucking vegans? Just let other people eat how they fucking want to
Show me those alleged studies.
It isn't really that much harder to get an adequate amount of protein in, there are tons of vegan foods which are rich in protein. Also some of the benefits of eating plant protein instead of animal protein are faster recovery time, no heart disease, lower blood pressure .
Eating meat is not the natural way but that's a whole other discussion and I don't really care about what's natural and not, I care about which is actually better.
The reason vegans are starting all the arguments in the dieting industry is because their is an ethical component involved and because a lot of the information out there is false due to a large amount of industry funded studies. If it wasn't for the ethical component I would't give two shits about what people eat and and what people believe to be healthy.
 
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Veganism is a cult similar to the Freemasons, the state of Israel, Seinfeld and Women.
 
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Show me those alleged studies.
It isn't really that much harder to get an adequate amount of protein in, there are tons of vegan foods which are rich in protein.
Eating meat is not the natural way but that's a whole other discussion and I don't really care about what's natural and not, I care about which is actually better.
The reason vegans are starting all the arguments in the dieting industry is because their is an ethical component involved and because a lot of the information out there is false due to a large amount of industry funded studies. If it wasn't for the ethical component I would't give two shits about what people eat and and what people believe to be healthy.
Do a Google search it isn't hard. Here's one I found in 10 seconds: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11524239/

Examples? Nothing compares to meat protein

Why is it better? Provide examples or studies?

Ethical component? Jfl at being so weak minded that you care more about cattle than your own diet. Even Jesus Christ ate meat and even killed pigs (not kidding look it up)
 
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You don't get tonsil stones.

Still remember what I had to go through when I ate cheese products.
Terrible mouth smell, pain, bleeding of my tonsils and vomiting. Truly horrendous.
Organs

Let me guess, these animal organs cause heart disease and inflammation, correct?
You vegans are useful idiots pushing the NWO agenda without realizing it. Stop this anti-humanism and return back to the natural order
 
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Do a Google search it isn't hard. Here's one I found in 10 seconds: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11524239/

Examples? Nothing compares to meat protein

Why is it better? Provide examples or studies?

Ethical component? Jfl at being so weak minded that you care more about cattle than your own diet. Even Jesus Christ ate meat and even killed pigs (not kidding look it up)
Have to go to uni now, I will reply later.
 
It has nothing to do with veganism. Less than 2 % of the population is vegan and if you look at studies comparing hormone levels of vegans to vegetarians and meat eaters vegans had the highest T levels on average even after adjusting for BMI.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-6691152a.pdf

Vegans have the lowest death rate and there is not a single vitamin or nutrient that you can't get on a vegan diet(exception is b12 but the only reason your meat has b12 is because they supplement it to the animals).
That study means nothing at all in the real world and I’d like you to show me one study which proves vegans live longer but you won’t be able to because veganism is literally killing you. Just because a label might say something contains certain vitamins doesn’t mean it can be absorbed through the digestion process. No wonder veganism causes accelerated aging. The level of anti-nutrients in these so called superfoods are the reason so many vegans are malnourished. And I looked up the study about vegans having more testosterone. The vegan group was ten years younger on average and consumed less alcohol so it can’t even be taken seriously. Even the other group eats a plant based diet ffs. Americans don’t eat much meat, only 30% of the diet is meat. The only way the study could be done is to have a group of vegans and carnivores to compare. Not to mention vegan babies are dying because of not having the correct nutrients and if by some miracle they do survive, their jaw won’t be able to develop properly due to inadequate hardness in the diet. Just stop this vegan propaganda dude
Do a Google search it isn't hard. Here's one I found in 10 seconds: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11524239/

Examples? Nothing compares to meat protein

Why is it better? Provide examples or studies?

Ethical component? Jfl at being so weak minded that you care more about cattle than your own diet. Even Jesus Christ ate meat and even killed pigs (not kidding look it up)
Don’t forget veganism does more damage to the environment
https://www.ucsusa.org/our-work/food-agriculture/our-failing-food-system/industrial-agriculture#
 
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yeah look at this weak vegan soyboy setting strongman world recordsView attachment 6049
Jfl at using a strongman or bodybuilder for that matter to promote veganism. 99 percent of these people are on roids, this isn’t from eating a plant based diet dipshit.
Show me those alleged studies.
It isn't really that much harder to get an adequate amount of protein in, there are tons of vegan foods which are rich in protein. Also some of the benefits of eating plant protein instead of animal protein are faster recovery time, no heart disease, lower blood pressure .
Eating meat is not the natural way but that's a whole other discussion and I don't really care about what's natural and not, I care about which is actually better.
The reason vegans are starting all the arguments in the dieting industry is because their is an ethical component involved and because a lot of the information out there is false due to a large amount of industry funded studies. If it wasn't for the ethical component I would't give two shits about what people eat and and what people believe to be healthy.
Plants don’t want to be eaten or else they wouldn’t produce so many antinutrients. Sorry pal but you’re going to have to stick to water.
 
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Do a Google search it isn't hard. Here's one I found in 10 seconds: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11524239/

Examples? Nothing compares to meat protein

Why is it better? Provide examples or studies?

Ethical component? Jfl at being so weak minded that you care more about cattle than your own diet. Even Jesus Christ ate meat and even killed pigs (not kidding look it up)
In the study you used they used a high dose of 600 microg/g isoflavones. In order to get that dose you will have to eat nothing but soy all day and even than you probably wouldn't reach that amount. In the study I linked a moderate and more realistic amount of isoflavones were fed.
The phytoestrogens in soy are really weak and at moderate amounts they can even lower estrogen levels because I wouthey bond with the receptors instead of estrogen. Only at absurdly high amounts you will notice an increase in estrogen levels. If you are worried about feminizing foods I would worry more about beer and dairy products which contain estrogens multiple times stronger than the soy phytoestrogens.
Vegan Diet and mortality
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/1710093
Plant foods and amino acid composition
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/01.cir.0000018905.97677.1f
Animal protein vs plant protein and mortality
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2540540
Vegan diet and diabetes
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21983060
Vegan diets and Hypothyroidism
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24264226
Vegan diet and Hypertension
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4144107/
Vegan diet and heart disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
Yes I care about ethics, there is absolutely to need to eat meat to be healthy which means that they only reason we eat it is because we like the taste. Since I acknowledge that those animals are sentient beings it is ethically wrong to kill them just for joy.
Jesus ate meat is not an argument.
Jfl at using a strongman or bodybuilder for that matter to promote veganism. 99 percent of these people are on roids, this isn’t from eating a plant based diet dipshit.
His competitors are on roids aswell and even with roids it's a difficult accomplishment. He also increased his strength in every department when he went vegan and he set all his world records on a vegan diet.
Plants don’t want to be eaten or else they wouldn’t produce so many antinutrients. Sorry pal but you’re going to have to stick to water.
What can be asserted without evidence e can be dismissed without evidence.
That study means nothing at all in the real world and I’d like you to show me one study which proves vegans live longer but you won’t be able to because veganism is literally killing you. Just because a label might say something contains certain vitamins doesn’t mean it can be absorbed through the digestion process. No wonder veganism causes accelerated aging. The level of anti-nutrients in these so called superfoods are the reason so many vegans are malnourished. And I looked up the study about vegans having more testosterone. The vegan group was ten years younger on average and consumed less alcohol so it can’t even be taken seriously. Even the other group eats a plant based diet ffs. Americans don’t eat much meat, only 30% of the diet is meat. The only way the study could be done is to have a group of vegans and carnivores to compare. Not to mention vegan babies are dying because of not having the correct nutrients and if by some miracle they do survive, their jaw won’t be able to develop properly due to inadequate hardness in the diet. Just stop this vegan propaganda dude
I linked a study compering mortality rates between vegans and other dietary groups.
In the testosterone study they adjusted for age, alcohol intake, smoking, exercise time and BMI so your argument is invalid and you probably haven't read the complete study.
Most industrial argiculture is done for animal foods so you can eat your meat. Study actually works against your argument.
 
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In the study you used they used a high dose of 600 microg/g isoflavones. In order to get that dose you will have to eat nothing but soy all day and even than you probably wouldn't reach that amount. In the study I linked a moderate and more realistic amount of isoflavones were fed.
The phytoestrogens in soy are really weak and at moderate amounts they can even lower estrogen levels because I wouthey bond with the receptors instead of estrogen. Only at absurdly high amounts you will notice an increase in estrogen levels. If you are worried about feminizing foods I would worry more about beer and dairy products which contain estrogens multiple times stronger than the soy phytoestrogens.
Vegan Diet and mortality
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/1710093
Plant foods and amino acid composition
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/01.cir.0000018905.97677.1f
Animal protein vs plant protein and mortality
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2540540
Vegan diet and diabetes
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21983060
Vegan diets and Hypothyroidism
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24264226
Vegan diet and Hypertension
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4144107/
Vegan diet and heart disease
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
Yes I care about ethics, there is absolutely to need to eat meat to be healthy which means that they only reason we eat it is because we like the taste. Since I acknowledge that those animals are sentient beings it is ethically wrong to kill them just for joy.
Jesus ate meat is not an argument.

His competitors are on roids aswell and even with roids it's a difficult accomplishment. He also increased his strength in every department when he went vegan and he set all his world records on a vegan diet.

What can be asserted without evidence e can be dismissed without evidence.

I linked a study compering mortality rates between vegans and other dietary groups.
In the testosterone study they adjusted for age, alcohol intake, smoking, exercise time and BMI so your argument is invalid and you probably haven't read the complete study.

Most industrial argiculture is done for animal foods so you can eat your meat. Study actually works against your argument.

All those studies comparing "health minded" vegans to typical western pattern diet eaters (that get like 70% of their calories from plant foods, and the 30% of animal products are mostly processed shit or mass-produced shit) show me a study of a real meat eater that gets most of his calories from high quality animal products and organ meats and we'll see who lives longer. Absolute boondoggle studies.
 
If you are worried about feminizing foods I would worry more about beer and dairy products which contain estrogens multiple times stronger than the soy phytoestrogens.
@TsarTsar444 thoughts on vegans?
 
@TsarTsar444 thoughts on vegans?
Its 3am now was preparing to sleep, but veganism is suboptimal, although if the vegan avoids PUFA and has superior digestive enzymes then it isn't actually so much different from omnivore diet as many think because meat doesn't have the purported nutrients its acclaimed for when COOKED. Notably B12 and B1 get more then 90% reduced in the cooking process, and the rest have a 50% reduction on average, the millage between meat eaters and vegans therefore is encolsed even more tightly and differences get blurred
 
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It depends alot on cooking time and the way of cooking it, roasting with direct fire destroys a much bigger amount of it
 

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