[Success] Regrow your hair follicles, androgenic alopecia, no excuses after you've read this tbh ngl

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Like: "Which scientific explanation or logical reasoning he has to use DUT+FIN together?"

Like: "Why is he so convinced peppermint oil works if study tested it on MICE not men and that it has been old study and in hair loss forums men have tried it over and over and it yielded no results [because if it would've yielded results, they'd be doing it instead of doing HT route] Also everything works on lab mice."

Like: "Why use 2mm instead 1.5mm dermapen. Any particular scientific reason or study?"

I also wanted to know where to get legit hylaronic acid.

How are those not legitimate issues to address?
 

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Like: "Which scientific explanation or logical reasoning he has to use DUT+FIN together?"

Like: "Why is he so convinced peppermint oil works if study tested it on MICE not men and that it has been old study and in hair loss forums men have tried it over and over and it yielded no results [because if it would've yielded results, they'd be doing it instead of doing HT route] Also everything works on lab mice."

Like: "Why use 2mm instead 1.5mm dermapen. Any particular scientific reason or study?"

I also wanted to know where to get legit hylaronic acid.

How are those not legitimate issues to address?
idk about all that shit just gonna adress ur question

where to get legit hyaluronic acid? nigga its not prescription only or illegal lmao
 

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idk about all that shit just gonna adress ur question

where to get legit hyaluronic acid? nigga its not prescription only or illegal lmao
Read what I said.

I did not say "legal hylaronic acid". I said "legit". There is plenty of China shit flooding the internet. Where to get high quality stuff that is not fake?
 

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Like: "Which scientific explanation or logical reasoning he has to use DUT+FIN together?"

Like: "Why is he so convinced peppermint oil works if study tested it on MICE not men and that it has been old study and in hair loss forums men have tried it over and over and it yielded no results [because if it would've yielded results, they'd be doing it instead of doing HT route] Also everything works on lab mice."

Like: "Why use 2mm instead 1.5mm dermapen. Any particular scientific reason or study?"

I also wanted to know where to get legit hylaronic acid.

How are those not legitimate issues to address?
Usually people take dut like twice a week and fin on all other days. This is how those things are used together. I received a similar prescription from a trihologist
 

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Usually people take dut like twice a week and fin on all other days. This is how those things are used together. I received a similar prescription from a trihologist
lol, those are rookie numbers, I take DUT EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Here is one thing you might not know: DUT inhibits DHT as FUCK. So what does it mean? It means less of your T is converted into shit-tier DHT. What does that mean? It means you actually have higher T. It means dut both reduces DHT, saves you from norwood reaper AND increases T.

Can you find a better deal?
you could piss on a mouse's back and it would regrow hair
PERFECTLY SAID
 

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Read what I said.

I did not say "legal hylaronic acid". I said "legit". There is plenty of China shit flooding the internet. Where to get high quality stuff that is not fake?
its not fake wtf

can literally go to any store and get creams or vials of it amd even the pharmacy
 

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lol, those are rookie numbers, I take DUT EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Here is one thing you might not know: DUT inhibits DHT as FUCK. So what does it mean? It means less of your T is converted into shit-tier DHT. What does that mean? It means you actually have higher T. It means dut both reduces DHT, saves you from norwood reaper AND increases T.

Can you find a better deal?

PERFECTLY SAID
When I was taking it every single day I had weaker erections. Also you need dht for shedding fat. And overall it gives you a very hardened look. All cutting steroids are DHT based for a reason
 

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When I was taking it every single day I had weaker erections. Also you need dht for shedding fat. And overall it gives you a very hardened look. All cutting steroids are DHT based for a reason
You can shed fat without DHT if you work hard at it.

Weak erections - just get CIALIS.

Hair >>>>>> Hardened look

I'm about 8% bf and taking DUT every day.
 

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You can shed fat without DHT if you work hard at it.

Weak erections - just get CIALIS.

Hair >>>>>> Hardened look

I'm about 8% bf and taking DUT every day.
Yeah, I did use cialis. And you are right about shedding fat by working harder. But your body/face still won’t look as good and as masculine as someone’s who has a lot of DHT

As for the hair - I am on Ru58. It works for now. No sides like from dut. If it will fail in the future I will just get a hair system. They are really good. Better than what most people real hair look like
 

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Yeah, I did use cialis. And you are right about shedding fat by working harder. But your body/face still won’t look as good and as masculine as someone’s who has a lot of DHT

As for the hair - I am on Ru58. It works for now. No sides like from dut. If it will fail in the future I will just get a hair system. They are really good. Better than what most people real hair look like
If you have a lot of DHT you will go bald if you are prone to it.

So pick your poison.

As for the hair - I am on Ru58. It works for now. No sides like from dut. If it will fail in the future I will just get a hair system. They are really good. Better than what most people real hair look like
Hair system is social suicide.
 

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If you have a lot of DHT you will go bald if you are prone to it.

So pick your poison.


Hair system is social suicide.
I am prone to it. Yet ru58+minox maintains my hairline even against roids

I don’t really have any social life so i don’t care about it
 

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Can you share your wisdom as an oldcel with no social life?

I am 18 with no social life as well.
Social life is overrated. You don’t need it for slaying this days. Most slays are from tinder/other networks

I have a few close friends who are aware of my obsession with trying to looksmax. And they are quite supportive. I don’t interact much with men except them. And I interact with women only to fuck them. And they usually are like 8-12 years younger then I am so there is not much we can really talk about apart from regular and meaningless things

I change jobs very often so my colleagues don’t notice the changes in my appearance. Although when I did a rhinoplasty a couple of years ago they did. Laughed a little at me but that was basically it. Nothing annoying

So going bald and then getting a hair system is not much a problem for me
 
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Social life is overrated. You don’t need it for slaying this days. Most slays are from tinder/other networks

I have a few close friends who are aware of my obsession with trying to looksmax. And they are quite supportive. I don’t interact much with men except them. And I interact with women only to fuck them. And they usually are like 8-12 years younger then I am so there is not much we can really talk about apart from regular and meaningless things

I change jobs very often so my colleagues don’t notice the changes in my appearance. Although when I did a rhinoplasty a couple of years ago they did. Laughed a little at me but that was basically it. Nothing annoying

So going bald and then getting a hair system is not much a problem for me
I plan to do the same with jobs. Working under someone for a long periods of time seems cucked to me (correct me if I am wrong).
I will try to get a few close friends then boss :feelsautistic:
 
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Like: "Which scientific explanation or logical reasoning he has to use DUT+FIN together?"

Like: "Why is he so convinced peppermint oil works if study tested it on MICE not men and that it has been old study and in hair loss forums men have tried it over and over and it yielded no results [because if it would've yielded results, they'd be doing it instead of doing HT route] Also everything works on lab mice."

Like: "Why use 2mm instead 1.5mm dermapen. Any particular scientific reason or study?"

I also wanted to know where to get legit hylaronic acid.

How are those not legitimate issues to address?
I use Fin and Dut together because they do not counteract, that means one does not inhibit the other and will both function simultaneously.

Peppermint oil significantly increases IGF-1 expression, which is a growth factor that is responsible for hair growth. Also peppermint oil is a vasodilator which means it will cause growth but will also cause hairloss If you are not using any 5-ARI and have androgenic alopecia because you are pushing more DHT into your scalp.

I use 2.5mm instead of 1.5mm because of the depth of our follicles, I have read an important study which shows that upper and lower parts of the follicles must be connected for hair to grow. Thus I use 2.5mm to force the body to rebuild new whole follicles with no DHT in between.

I bought some hyaluronic acid on ebay a while back and it's legit, I don't remember from which seller though.

lol, those are rookie numbers, I take DUT EVERY SINGLE DAY

Here is one thing you might not know: DUT inhibits DHT as FUCK. So what does it mean? It means less of your T is converted into shit-tier DHT. What does that mean? It means you actually have higher T. It means dut both reduces DHT, saves you from norwood reaper AND increases T.

Can you find a better deal?
Based.
Dut made me high T and helped pack some muscle, Dut is both the fountain of youth and elixir of the gods for norwooding skinnycels
 

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I use Fin and Dut together because they do not counteract, that means one does not inhibit the other and will both function simultaneously.

Peppermint oil significantly increases IGF-1 expression, which is a growth factor that is responsible for hair growth. Also peppermint oil is a vasodilator which means it will cause growth but will also cause hairloss If you are not using any 5-ARI and have androgenic alopecia because you are pushing more DHT into your scalp.

I use 2.5mm instead of 1.5mm because of the depth of our follicles, I have read an important study which shows that upper and lower parts of the follicles must be connected for hair to grow. Thus I use 2.5mm to force the body to rebuild new whole follicles with no DHT in between.

I bought some hyaluronic acid on ebay a while back and it's legit, I don't remember from which seller though.



Based.
Dut made me high T and helped pack some muscle, Dut is both the fountain of youth and elixir of the gods for norwooding skinnycels
He is right about Dut+Fin I've seen dermatologists actually recommend this combo. Low dose dut taken twice per week.

Can you find study saying that 2.5mm dermarolling is ideal? Seems a bit extreme.. I've seen studies that said 1.5mm. Worst case scenario you actually destroy hair follicles so for real please link the study.
 

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I use 2.5mm instead of 1.5mm because of the depth of our follicles, I have read an important study which shows that upper and lower parts of the follicles must be connected for hair to grow. Thus I use 2.5mm to force the body to rebuild new whole follicles with no DHT in between.
Thanks for detailed answer.

Aren't you scared of damaging hair follicles with dermastamping that deep though?
 

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FIRST AND FOREMOST: Hair transplants are major copes because they do not properly make your scalp regrow it's follicles all the way down to the lower dermis.
Follicle contact between upper and lower dermis is neccessary for hair regrowth to take place, DHT blocks these channels.

If you are balding get these (all non ref):


1. Finasteride 1mg pills, cut in half. (See your doctor)


2.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-Pen-Derma-Pen-Ultima-A6-Rechargable-Microneedle-System-Adjustable-0-25-2-5mm/222536335789?epid=1061652126&hash=item33d03301ad:g:btgAAOSw5SZZjZy8:rk:1:pf:0

and these 42 Pin cartriges:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222740807422

3.

Peppermint oil:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Peppermint-100-Pure-Essential-Oil-10ml-25ml-50ml-100ml-500ml-1litre/191574022705?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=490651874113&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

4.

Not too strong hyaluronic acid:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/KNIYEA-10ML-Hyaluronic-Acid-Concentrate-Hydrating-Moisturizing-HA-Concentrate-HT/253650819828?hash=item3b0ec45af4:g:VBcAAOSwAOdbLgDm:rk:1:pf:0

5.

Minoxidil:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kirkland-Minoxidil-5-Hair-Regrowth-Solution-Extra-Strength-Men-6-Month-Supply/152744780175?epid=2164368880&hash=item23904c618f:g:uz0AAOSwv8FZ4531:rk:4:pf:0

6.(optional, antifungal)
Ketoconazole anti-dandruff shampoo. Use sparingly and rarely, unless you suffer from very dry scalp and very bad dandruff then follow what it says on the leaflet.


Procedures:


Once every 1-2 weeks:

Shower and throughly shampoo hair and scalp. Pat towel dry hair, keep scalp wet. Apply a bit of rubbing alcohol on your scalp.
Set the Dr Pen to 2.5mm and highest speed possible for minimum pain, insert sanitized 42Pin cartridge.
Anything less than 2mm is cope. You need upper follicles to make contact with lower follicles by destroying the DHT in between and damaging the lower dermis follicles (This is the most importent part in hair regrowth).
Run that shit on your temples and even on your forehead, this will lower your hairline.
Keep your scalp and hair wet when you run the pen to prevent hair and skin tearing and minimize pain. (You can always add some water on top during the proccess)
Carefully wash head with a cool and soft water stream to wash all of the blood off.

Apply a tiny bit of Hyaluronic acid on the penetrated areas.
Wait for it to absorb.

You should feel a hot burning sensation. This is the inflammation starting to take effect and the scalp begins it's natural rejuvenation/restructure of particles.

Apply Peppermint oil.

(Peppermint oil > Minoxidil when it comes to hair regrowth but I use both)


Daily:
0.5mg Finasteride.
Peppermint oil.


Twice a day:
0.5ml Minoxidil. Do not extend 0.5ml or the alcohol will dry your scalp.
DO NOT USE MINOXIDIL ATLEAST 12 HOURS AFTER YOU'VE USED DR PEN, as this will increase systematic absorbation and side effects.
You really only need the Minox to work topically.


(Optional) Once a few days to once a week to once a few weeks:
Ketoconazole shampoo this can help clean the scalp from fungi. DO NOT USE KETOCONAZOLE SHAMPOO 48 HOURS BEFORE AND 48 HOURS AFTER YOU'VE USED DR PEN. The Ketoconazole shampoo prevents the inflammation of the scalp which is neccessary for natural restructure of follicles.



All of the data above is from scientific studies and personal two month experience. Sorry but I'm too low effort to roll back and find links to these studies.
I have already lowered my hairline and temples and I may post before / after pics at 6 month mark, the results will be absolutely insane.
Do you experienced any kind of facial bloat?
 
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Do you experienced any kind of facial bloat?
Yes I do, but I am keeping it under control with low sodium, low carb, no gluten, intermittent fasting (12:00-20:00 eating window), 5000mg vitamin C, 500mg Sulforaphane a day diet with some very short high intensity cardio, lifting weights and drinking a fuck ton of water seems to do the trick.
Thanks for detailed answer.

Aren't you scared of damaging hair follicles with dermastamping that deep though?
I always have this thought at the back of my head that I may cause permanent irreversible damage.
The theory and my empirical evidence support otherwise: You need to damage the lower part of the follicles too in order for new terminal hair to grow.
I have used this method to grow terminal hair on lower parts of my forehead where it has never grown before in my life.
I have lowered my hairline by a centimeter using this method.

And this is only the beginning.
I'm just chilling here waiting for DUT shed to end.
 
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Yes I do, but I am keeping it under control with low sodium, low carb, no gluten, intermittent fasting (12:00-20:00 eating window), 5000mg vitamin C, 500mg Sulforaphane a day diet with some very short high intensity cardio, lifting weights and drinking a fuck ton of water seems to do the trick.

I always have this thought at the back of my head that I may cause permanent irreversible damage.
The theory and my empirical evidence support otherwise: You need to damage the lower part of the follicles too in order for new terminal hair to grow.
I have used this method to grow terminal hair on lower parts of my forehead where it has never grown before in my life.
I have lowered my hairline by a centimeter using this method.

And this is only the beginning.
I'm just chilling here waiting for DUT shed to end.
Did the bloat decrease with stopping minox
The only thing that retains me to take fin or minox is facial bloat tbh since i have weak bones andhave to stay very lean
 
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Did the bloat decrease with stopping minox
The only thing that retains me to take fin or minox is facial bloat tbh since i have weak bones andhave to stay very lean
Don't ever take minox, it causes a bloat that is a lot worse than fin or dut and has too many bad side effects. Use peppermint oil instead, it's both more effective and has no side effects.
 

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Don't ever take minox, it causes a bloat that is a lot worse than fin or dut and has too many bad side effects. Use peppermint oil instead, it's both more effective and has no side effects.
Is peppermint effective alone or I have to put it with dermaneedling
I know it s much better with dermaneedling but i dont know if it is worth it to try before i buy the derminator 2
 

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Damn im to scared of "post finasteride syndrom" and shrinking dick, so every day i have to look in the mirror with a little bit less hair on my head :(
 

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I have used this method to grow terminal hair on lower parts of my forehead where it has never grown before in my life.
I have lowered my hairline by a centimeter using this method.
Big if true. Could you please post before-afters to see the lowering?

1 cm is insane, that would save me a hair transplant if I could do that. I guess you don't risk too much by going that deep in areas where no hair grows. You can only gain.

Pics would still be amazing. It is a dramatic change for dermarolling. For how long have you been doing it?
 
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I guess you don't risk too much by going that deep in areas where no hair grows. You can only gain.
My thoughts exactly.

I lost this 1cm gain due to Dutasteride shed.
Shed is really as brutal as they say it is.
I'l start posting pictures in 2-3 months


EDIT:
Added 600mcs Selenium taken daily with Iodine.
I have a lot of random grey hairs so I suspect more T4 to T3 conversion should be effective for both forcing hairs to enter anagen stage faster and provide enough melanin to all areas of the scalp so no hairs would grow white/grey.

Source: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/93/11/4381/2627273
 
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My thoughts exactly.

I lost this 1cm gain due to Dutasteride shed.
Shed is really as brutal as they say it is.
I'l start posting pictures in 2-3 months


EDIT:
Added 600mcs Selenium taken daily with Iodine.
I have a lot of random grey hairs so I suspect more T4 to T3 conversion should be effective for both forcing hairs to enter anagen stage faster and provide enough melanin to all areas of the scalp so no hairs would grow white/grey.

Source: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/93/11/4381/2627273
Any source of peppermint oil works or is there a specific one i should buy?
Same for vitamin c and hyaluronic acid, have you any links?
 

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FIRST AND FOREMOST: Hair transplants are major copes because they do not properly make your scalp regrow it's follicles all the way down to the lower dermis.
Follicle contact between upper and lower dermis is neccessary for hair regrowth to take place, DHT blocks these channels.

If you are balding get these (all non ref):


1. Finasteride 1mg pills, cut in half. (See your doctor)


2.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dr-Pen-Derma-Pen-Ultima-A6-Rechargable-Microneedle-System-Adjustable-0-25-2-5mm/222536335789?epid=1061652126&hash=item33d03301ad:g:btgAAOSw5SZZjZy8:rk:1:pf:0

and these 42 Pin cartriges:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222740807422

3.

Peppermint oil:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Peppermint-100-Pure-Essential-Oil-10ml-25ml-50ml-100ml-500ml-1litre/191574022705?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=490651874113&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

4.

Not too strong hyaluronic acid:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/KNIYEA-10ML-Hyaluronic-Acid-Concentrate-Hydrating-Moisturizing-HA-Concentrate-HT/253650819828?hash=item3b0ec45af4:g:VBcAAOSwAOdbLgDm:rk:1:pf:0

5.

Minoxidil:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kirkland-Minoxidil-5-Hair-Regrowth-Solution-Extra-Strength-Men-6-Month-Supply/152744780175?epid=2164368880&hash=item23904c618f:g:uz0AAOSwv8FZ4531:rk:4:pf:0

6.(optional, antifungal)
Ketoconazole anti-dandruff shampoo. Use sparingly and rarely, unless you suffer from very dry scalp and very bad dandruff then follow what it says on the leaflet.


Procedures:


Once every 1-2 weeks:

Shower and throughly shampoo hair and scalp. Pat towel dry hair, keep scalp wet. Apply a bit of rubbing alcohol on your scalp.
Set the Dr Pen to 2.5mm and highest speed possible for minimum pain, insert sanitized 42Pin cartridge.
Anything less than 2mm is cope. You need upper follicles to make contact with lower follicles by destroying the DHT in between and damaging the lower dermis follicles (This is the most importent part in hair regrowth).
Run that shit on your temples and even on your forehead, this will lower your hairline.
Keep your scalp and hair wet when you run the pen to prevent hair and skin tearing and minimize pain. (You can always add some water on top during the proccess)
Carefully wash head with a cool and soft water stream to wash all of the blood off.

Apply a tiny bit of Hyaluronic acid on the penetrated areas.
Wait for it to absorb.

You should feel a hot burning sensation. This is the inflammation starting to take effect and the scalp begins it's natural rejuvenation/restructure of particles.

Apply Peppermint oil.

(Peppermint oil > Minoxidil when it comes to hair regrowth but I use both)


Daily:
0.5mg Finasteride.
Peppermint oil.


Twice a day:
0.5ml Minoxidil. Do not extend 0.5ml or the alcohol will dry your scalp.
DO NOT USE MINOXIDIL ATLEAST 12 HOURS AFTER YOU'VE USED DR PEN, as this will increase systematic absorbation and side effects.
You really only need the Minox to work topically.


(Optional) Once a few days to once a week to once a few weeks:
Ketoconazole shampoo this can help clean the scalp from fungi. DO NOT USE KETOCONAZOLE SHAMPOO 48 HOURS BEFORE AND 48 HOURS AFTER YOU'VE USED DR PEN. The Ketoconazole shampoo prevents the inflammation of the scalp which is neccessary for natural restructure of follicles.



All of the data above is from scientific studies and personal two month experience. Sorry but I'm too low effort to roll back and find links to these studies.
I have already lowered my hairline and temples and I may post before / after pics at 6 month mark, the results will be absolutely insane.
Is there any difference between the A6 pen and the A7 in features? I might just get the A6 just because it is wireless and the A7 isn't tbh
 

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