[Discussion] So jaw implants must be removed later in life one way or another?

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Like 20-30 years after the surgery due to infection/ bone erosion. Many people confirmed this online and my surgeon said the same.

So there’s no way to correct a narrow jaw permanently? I’m not necessarily doing it because I gotta see if narrow jaw looks good on me after genio first.
 
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People who add this shit into their bodies are retarded tbh. So much potential for future complications. Unless you are rich it's not worth the hassle.
 
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Like 20-30 years after the surgery due to infection/ bone erosion. Many people confirmed this online and my surgeon said the same.

So there’s no way to correct a narrow jaw permanently? I’m not necessarily doing it because I gotta see if narrow jaw looks good on me after genio first.
- lipofilling (filler with fat injection) is Permanent
- chin wing is permanent

the first costs 2000-5000 euros (sometimes you have to do it twice because the body absorbs 40% of the fat injected)

I don't know the price of the chin wing
 
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- lipofilling (filler with fat injection) is Permanent
- chin wing is permanent

the first costs 2000-5000 euros (sometimes you have to do it twice because the body absorbs 40% of the fat injected)

I don't know the price of the chin wing
Yeah I've always been skeptical of implants. Is lipofilling the only way besides implants to augment the lower third? Tell me more about them
 
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Does it make your face look bloated though?


That’s for chin not jaw width
lipofilling does not make your face look bloated, lipofilling gives the same aesthetic effect of fillers, but liquid fat is used instead of liquid hyarulonicnacid.

Chin wing has an ambiguous name and because this surgery does not change the chin.
chin wing consists in cutting the lower part of your jaw bone and widening it in order to enhance the jawline or fix narrow jaw.
chin wing is called like this because the lower part of the jaw bone gets widened at jaw angle but remains attached to the chin
 
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lipofilling does not make your face look bloated, lipofilling gives the same aesthetic effect of fillers, but liquid fat is used instead of liquid hyarulonicnacid.

Chin wing has an ambiguous name and because this surgery does not change the chin.
chin wing consists in cutting the lower part of your jaw bone and widening it in order to enhance the jawline or fix narrow jaw.
chin wing is called like this because the lower part of the jaw bone gets widened at jaw angle but remains attached to the chin
Thanks for the info
 
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Does this always happen with all types of implant materials?
Yes, that’s why my surgeon never advised me to go for implants, for jaw or for chin.
 
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Like 20-30 years after the surgery due to infection/ bone erosion. Many people confirmed this online and my surgeon said the same.

So there’s no way to correct a narrow jaw permanently? I’m not necessarily doing it because I gotta see if narrow jaw looks good on me after genio first.
Indeed I have read the same. You can gain some width with a chin wing osteotomy, it is possible but limited. It can also give you a longer ramus and smaller gonial angle with some CCW angle. I might do that surgery one day, many small improvements in one.
 
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Indeed I have read the same. You can gain some width with a chin wing osteotomy, it is possible but limited. It can also give you a longer ramus and smaller gonial angle with some CCW angle. I might do that surgery one day, many small improvements in one.
My intergonial width is 2cm shorter than my interzygomatic width :feelscry:
 
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What is the ideal proportion there?

According to your post they should be similar.

Now it's hard to judge in my case due to lack of chin projection. But I doubt my jaw angle will be visible after genio. That said it's all about harmony. If narrow jaw does look fine on me I'm not doing anything to widen my jaw then.
 
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A standard chin wing doesn't really add any width, but you can make additional cuts (ie side wing) that allows the jawline to be angled outwards in the same procedure.
 
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So what if looksmaxing stuff needs to be removed in 20-30 years? The youngest you can get it is likely 18 and the earliest they’ll be removed is 38. jfl if you think you’re going to slay past 40.
 
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it's worth it to look good when you are young.
 
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what do chin wings even fix? to be honest i cant imagine it being better than a genio.
 
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lipofilling does not make your face look bloated, lipofilling gives the same aesthetic effect of fillers, but liquid fat is used instead of liquid hyarulonicnacid.

Chin wing has an ambiguous name and because this surgery does not change the chin.
chin wing consists in cutting the lower part of your jaw bone and widening it in order to enhance the jawline or fix narrow jaw.
chin wing is called like this because the lower part of the jaw bone gets widened at jaw angle but remains attached to the chin
is lipoffiling the same as fat graftling ?
I mean, i want definitively to have a better eye area, but fat graflting don't last
don't know if in the long term, it's better having good tier - very good tier lower third or eye area.
 
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what about chin implants??
 
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Like 20-30 years after the surgery due to infection/ bone erosion. Many people confirmed this online and my surgeon said the same.

So there’s no way to correct a narrow jaw permanently? I’m not necessarily doing it because I gotta see if narrow jaw looks good on me after genio first.
No, infection is extremely unlikely several months after implantation (assuming you go with silicone) as a capsule of tissue forms around the implant.

As for bone erosion, one of the best facial implantation surgeons in the world (Dr. Joe Niamtu) claims that while he see's bone erosion in time to time, he has never seen a case where the implant was fixated with titanium screws.

it's the micromovements that your tissue / muscles place on the implant over the years when it's not fixated that causes erosion.

TL;DR Make sure your fucking implants are fixated with titanium screws and silicone.

There's a huge article Dr. Niamtu wrote on this, with legitimate pictures and examples backing this up

Fuck me I should make an entire thread on this tbh.
 
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No, infection is extremely unlikely several months after implantation (assuming you go with silicone) as a capsule of tissue forms around the implant.

As for bone erosion, one of the best facial implantation surgeons in the world (Dr. Joe Niamtu) claims that while he see's bone erosion in time to time, he has never seen a case where the implant was fixated with titanium screws.

it's the micromovements that your tissue / muscles place on the implant over the years when it's not fixated that causes erosion.

TL;DR Make sure your fucking implants are fixated with titanium screws and silicone.

There's a huge article Dr. Niamtu wrote on this, with legitimate pictures and examples backing this up

Fuck me I should make an entire thread on this tbh.
It's nice to see someone who's actually done some research lmao all kinds of low iq in this thread
 
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It's nice to see someone who's actually done some research lmao all kinds of low iq in this thread
Oath.

My current chin implant is infected and has to be removed.

It wasn't until I experienced complications that I did autistic levels of research

tl;dr most surgeons will cuck you, do your fucking research
 
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Oath.

My current chin implant is infected and has to be removed.

It wasn't until I experienced complications that I did autistic levels of research

tl;dr most surgeons will cuck you, do your fucking research
This is why I'm a proponent of osteotomy over implant where possible. The initial recovery may be more gruelling but its worth it for the permanency.
 
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My current chin implant is infected and has to be removed.

It wasn't until I experienced complications that I did autistic levels of research

tl;dr most surgeons will cuck you, do your fucking research
What kind of complications did you have? What was the first sign of infection?
 
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What kind of complications did you have? What was the first sign of infection?
Small abscess on internal suture line, small pus leakage, some mild swelling, redness, tenderness
 
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Like 20-30 years after the surgery due to infection/ bone erosion. Many people confirmed this online and my surgeon said the same.

So there’s no way to correct a narrow jaw permanently? I’m not necessarily doing it because I gotta see if narrow jaw looks good on me after genio first.
in 20-30 years it doesn't matter for shit anyway. JFL if you plan to live past 30 years old.
 
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People who add this shit into their bodies are retarded tbh. So much potential for future complications. Unless you are rich it's not worth the hassle.
If I was a jaw cel, you don't know how many years I'd be willing to sacrifice to not be an incel in my prime. If you can't find a good ltr you can't enjoy the rest of your life.
 
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chin wings dont add vertical length right?
It usually should since you are moving the lower border of the mandible forward along the mandible which is already downwards sloping. So by extending the length of the mandible, the chin should in principle reach further forward and slightly downwards. But it also depends how you angle the cut segment. It is often rotated slightly ccw to get a more horizonthally angled jawline, increasing the ramus and reducing the vertical heightening of the chin somewhat. These movements are tailored for each case depending on your goals.

Mine added a bit of vertical length to the chin even though that wasn't my main goal.
 
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Same for infraorbital rim implants???
For all implants. Malar implants are particularly bad, basically anywhere that’s interconnected w a large concentration of blood vessels etc is high risk.

Infraorbital implants from Eppley cost like 27k right? For 3k more you can get mlf3 lol, food for thought.
 
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For all implants. Malar implants are particularly bad, basically anywhere that’s interconnected w a large concentration of blood vessels etc is high risk.

Infraorbital implants from Eppley cost like 27k right? For 3k more you can get mlf3 lol, food for thought.
what's MLF3 ?

is somewhat bimax about implants ?
 
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Modified lefort 3, but I don’t like that name tbh it makes scares too many people off.

It’s a malar advancement.
is somewhat bimax about implants ?
Not sure what you mean here
 

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