Steroid transformation

[Esteban1997]

So this is my first week on roids and im noticing big changes for example my forearms grew and my triceps and so has vascularity increased alot Im starting to get acne on my back tho lol

 

[fatcelnolonger]

Good progress but please change your dosage schedule

 

[Coping]

Be careful about hair loss that’s the biggest issue, what are u using?

 

[Esteban1997]

Be careful about hair loss that’s the biggest issue, what are u using?

What steroids am I using?

 

[Coping]

What steroids am I using?

Yes

 

[Esteban1997]

Yes

Test e + tren for 8-12 weeks then ill go off cycle

 

[Coping]

Test e + tren for 8-12 weeks then ill go off cycle

Nice tren is hard af on hair tho make sure to keep track of ur hair

 

[Esteban1997]

Nice tren is hard af on hair tho make sure to keep track of ur hair

Alright thanks

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

Nice tren is hard af on hair tho make sure to keep track of ur hair

hes appearently using 2,000+ mg of each/week

 

[itsoverbuddyboyo]

lol @ you using roids looking like you've never touched a fucking weight in your life.

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

I think you're getting gyno already. Your nipples are like 3.14. I could draw accurate circles by tracing over your nipples. Your nips have infinite indexes.

 

[Autist]

Spanish Blaha

 

[Esteban1997]

lol @ you using roids looking like you've never touched a fucking weight in your life.

I did but I reached my genetic potencial so I started using roids to go beyond my genetics and get more gains

 

[itsoverbuddyboyo]

btw have fun losing all your gainz once you come off, unless you blast and cruise...you're fucked

I did but I reached my genetic potencial so I started using roids to go beyond my genetics and get more gains

 

[Esteban1997]

I think you're getting gyno already. Your nipples are like 3.14. I could draw accurate circles by tracing over your nipples. Your nips have infinite indexes.

I already had gyno before even starting steroids I might do surgery to get rid of it

btw have fun losing all your gainz once you come off, unless you blast and cruise...you're fucked

Lol I wont lose all my gains I might lose a little

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

btw have fun losing all your gainz once you come off, unless you blast and cruise...you're fucked

Huge cope. You only lose gains that you have achieved if they are past your genetic potential. This guy clearly has not reached it though

 

[itsoverbuddyboyo]

Huge cope. You only lose gains that you have achieved if they are past your genetic potential. This guy clearly has not reached it though

You're retarded. Unless you commit to using steroids, you simply will not keep your gains. Once he comes off, his strength won't follow it's linear pattern it once did. He will also lose muscle mass. It's inevitable.

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

You're retarded. Unless you commit to using steroids, you simply will not keep your gains. Once he comes off, his strength won't follow it's linear pattern it once did. He will also lose muscle mass. It's inevitable.

@Intel.Imperitive help this guy stop coping.

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

You're retarded. Unless you commit to using steroids, you simply will not keep your gains. Once he comes off, his strength won't follow it's linear pattern it once did. He will also lose muscle mass. It's inevitable.

No.

Mate, it takes a shit-load of testosterone to build muscle rapidly like steroids do, but just simply holding onto existing muscles is another.

The reason you lose gains from a cycle IS NOT because natty test levels arent enough to sustain said muscle mass, (unless over your natty limit).

Its because of the time inbetween cycle T levels and natty T levels when you come off. You have to go from 9000+ng/dl to 0ng/dl then back to 885ng/dl (This is my natty T level).

Think of it as a car going at 200mph, then has to brake to 0mph then cruise to 55mph as soon as possible.

You take Nolvadex, HCG, Clomid ect to decrease the time in which your natty T levels take to get back online.

In our analogy, it would be like adding stronger brakes and a powerful engine to the car to help it get to 0 and then cruise speed faster.

Thourough PCT > Leydig cells signaled to restart via LH and FSH > Faster endogenous T secretion > Less time taken for Natty T levels to return > Less time spent in extreme catabolism > Less muscular atrophy > More gains retained.

This is the entire point of PCT.

If you could turn your natty Test Levels on-off like a switch, you would lose no gear when you came off cycle (If your below or at natty limit).

So, in final; LOSING GEAR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOW-NATTY T LEVELS, BUT RATHER THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET BACK TO THAT NATTY T LEVEL.

@AntiSocial-Fakecel

 

[future chadlite]

No.

Mate, it takes a shit-load of testosterone to build muscle rapidly like steroids do, but just simply holding onto existing muscles is another.

The reason you lose gains from a cycle IS NOT because natty test levels arent enough to sustain said muscle mass, (unless over your natty limit).

Its because of the time inbetween cycle T levels and natty T levels when you come off. You have to go from 9000+ng/dl to 0ng/dl then back to 885ng/dl (This is my natty T level).

Think of it as a car going at 200mph, then has to brake to 0mph then cruise to 55mph as soon as possible.

You take Nolvadex, HCG, Clomid ect to decrease the time in which your natty T levels take to get back online.

In our analogy, it would be like adding stronger brakes and a powerful engine to the car to help it get to 0 and then cruise speed faster.

Thourough PCT > Less time taken for Natty T levels to return > Less time spent in extreme catabolism > Less muscular atrophy > More gains retained.

This is the entire point of PCT.

If you could turn your natty Test Levels on-off like a switch, you would lose no gear when you came off cycle (If your below or at natty limit).

So, in final; LOSING GEAR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOW-NATTY T LEVELS, BUT RATHER THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET BACK TO THAT NATTY T LEVEL.

@AntiSocial-Fakecel

is it possible to maintain what you have while you're going back to normal?

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

is it possible to maintain what you have while you're going back to normal?

On average you can keep 60-80% of gains. Depends on how advanced your physique is, what drugs you used, your natural propensity to restart endogenous T, and your PCT regiment (Diet/Training/Drugs).

And any gains that you do lose, will be slightly easier to get back even as a natty. Because the muscle fibres will get smaller, but the number of muscle nuclei will remain.

 

[DrTony]

You look extremely effeminate

 

[SeiGun]

I did but I reached my genetic potencial so I started using roids to go beyond my genetics and get more gains

no you are clearly not at your genetic potential in your pics, just a normal skinny fat dude, unless you have rare/shitty genetic
and you have man boobs look like low test+high estrogen

 

[Esteban1997]

no you are clearly not at your genetic potential in your pics, just a normal skinny fat dude, unless you have rare/shitty genetic
and you have man boobs look like low test+high estrogen

I always had a little bit of gyno Even before starting steroids

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

I always had a little bit of gyno Even before starting steroids

u r not even 10% of the way to your genetic potential.

 

[JovanD]

Holy crap that's quite noticable for a week, but still kinda fat >fat

 

[Kenma]

You can do this @Esteban1997
Looksmax.org believes in you

Your lopsided nipples were bothering me so I just had to fix it

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

So this is my first week on roids and im noticing big changes for example my forearms grew and my triceps and so has vascularity increased alot Im starting to get acne on my back tho lol

Have you been going to the gym and staying on a diet at least?

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

@Esteban1997 makes sure you're taking your tudca and nac.

 

[BornAgainChad]

Have you been going to the gym and staying on a diet at least?

Check out the cum tribute thread. I did a thing again.

 

[kobecel]

Lose fat you fatass

 

[SchrodingersDick]

How tall are you ? 2000mg/week test e is an insane IFBB tier dose

 

[kobecel]

hes appearently using 2,000+ mg of each/week

What an idiot

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

How tall are you ? 2000mg/week test e is an insane IFBB tier dose

He is either trolling or is going to die.

 

[Esteban1997]

Have you been going to the gym and staying on a diet at least?

Yes I have