Steroid transformation

[Esteban1997]

So this is my first week on roids and im noticing big changes for example my forearms grew and my triceps and so has vascularity increased alot Im starting to get acne on my back tho lol

 

[fatcelnolonger]

Good progress but please change your dosage schedule

 

[Coping]

Be careful about hair loss that’s the biggest issue, what are u using?

 

[Esteban1997]

Be careful about hair loss that’s the biggest issue, what are u using?

What steroids am I using?

 

[Coping]

What steroids am I using?

Yes

 

[Esteban1997]

Yes

Test e + tren for 8-12 weeks then ill go off cycle

 

[Coping]

Test e + tren for 8-12 weeks then ill go off cycle

Nice tren is hard af on hair tho make sure to keep track of ur hair

 

[Esteban1997]

Nice tren is hard af on hair tho make sure to keep track of ur hair

Alright thanks

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

Nice tren is hard af on hair tho make sure to keep track of ur hair

hes appearently using 2,000+ mg of each/week

 

[itsoverbuddyboyo]

lol @ you using roids looking like you've never touched a fucking weight in your life.

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

I think you're getting gyno already. Your nipples are like 3.14. I could draw accurate circles by tracing over your nipples. Your nips have infinite indexes.

 

[Autist]

Spanish Blaha

 

[Esteban1997]

lol @ you using roids looking like you've never touched a fucking weight in your life.

I did but I reached my genetic potencial so I started using roids to go beyond my genetics and get more gains

 

[itsoverbuddyboyo]

btw have fun losing all your gainz once you come off, unless you blast and cruise...you're fucked

I did but I reached my genetic potencial so I started using roids to go beyond my genetics and get more gains

 

[Esteban1997]

I think you're getting gyno already. Your nipples are like 3.14. I could draw accurate circles by tracing over your nipples. Your nips have infinite indexes.

I already had gyno before even starting steroids I might do surgery to get rid of it

btw have fun losing all your gainz once you come off, unless you blast and cruise...you're fucked

Lol I wont lose all my gains I might lose a little

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

btw have fun losing all your gainz once you come off, unless you blast and cruise...you're fucked

Huge cope. You only lose gains that you have achieved if they are past your genetic potential. This guy clearly has not reached it though

 

[itsoverbuddyboyo]

Huge cope. You only lose gains that you have achieved if they are past your genetic potential. This guy clearly has not reached it though

You're retarded. Unless you commit to using steroids, you simply will not keep your gains. Once he comes off, his strength won't follow it's linear pattern it once did. He will also lose muscle mass. It's inevitable.

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

You're retarded. Unless you commit to using steroids, you simply will not keep your gains. Once he comes off, his strength won't follow it's linear pattern it once did. He will also lose muscle mass. It's inevitable.

@Intel.Imperitive help this guy stop coping.

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

You're retarded. Unless you commit to using steroids, you simply will not keep your gains. Once he comes off, his strength won't follow it's linear pattern it once did. He will also lose muscle mass. It's inevitable.

No.

Mate, it takes a shit-load of testosterone to build muscle rapidly like steroids do, but just simply holding onto existing muscles is another.

The reason you lose gains from a cycle IS NOT because natty test levels arent enough to sustain said muscle mass, (unless over your natty limit).

Its because of the time inbetween cycle T levels and natty T levels when you come off. You have to go from 9000+ng/dl to 0ng/dl then back to 885ng/dl (This is my natty T level).

Think of it as a car going at 200mph, then has to brake to 0mph then cruise to 55mph as soon as possible.

You take Nolvadex, HCG, Clomid ect to decrease the time in which your natty T levels take to get back online.

In our analogy, it would be like adding stronger brakes and a powerful engine to the car to help it get to 0 and then cruise speed faster.

Thourough PCT > Leydig cells signaled to restart via LH and FSH > Faster endogenous T secretion > Less time taken for Natty T levels to return > Less time spent in extreme catabolism > Less muscular atrophy > More gains retained.

This is the entire point of PCT.

If you could turn your natty Test Levels on-off like a switch, you would lose no gear when you came off cycle (If your below or at natty limit).

So, in final; LOSING GEAR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOW-NATTY T LEVELS, BUT RATHER THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET BACK TO THAT NATTY T LEVEL.

@AntiSocial-Fakecel

 

[future chadlite]

No.

Mate, it takes a shit-load of testosterone to build muscle rapidly like steroids do, but just simply holding onto existing muscles is another.

The reason you lose gains from a cycle IS NOT because natty test levels arent enough to sustain said muscle mass, (unless over your natty limit).

Its because of the time inbetween cycle T levels and natty T levels when you come off. You have to go from 9000+ng/dl to 0ng/dl then back to 885ng/dl (This is my natty T level).

Think of it as a car going at 200mph, then has to brake to 0mph then cruise to 55mph as soon as possible.

You take Nolvadex, HCG, Clomid ect to decrease the time in which your natty T levels take to get back online.

In our analogy, it would be like adding stronger brakes and a powerful engine to the car to help it get to 0 and then cruise speed faster.

Thourough PCT > Less time taken for Natty T levels to return > Less time spent in extreme catabolism > Less muscular atrophy > More gains retained.

This is the entire point of PCT.

If you could turn your natty Test Levels on-off like a switch, you would lose no gear when you came off cycle (If your below or at natty limit).

So, in final; LOSING GEAR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOW-NATTY T LEVELS, BUT RATHER THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET BACK TO THAT NATTY T LEVEL.

@AntiSocial-Fakecel

is it possible to maintain what you have while you're going back to normal?

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

is it possible to maintain what you have while you're going back to normal?

On average you can keep 60-80% of gains. Depends on how advanced your physique is, what drugs you used, your natural propensity to restart endogenous T, and your PCT regiment (Diet/Training/Drugs).

And any gains that you do lose, will be slightly easier to get back even as a natty. Because the muscle fibres will get smaller, but the number of muscle nuclei will remain.

 

[DrTony]

You look extremely effeminate

 

[SeiGun]

I did but I reached my genetic potencial so I started using roids to go beyond my genetics and get more gains

no you are clearly not at your genetic potential in your pics, just a normal skinny fat dude, unless you have rare/shitty genetic
and you have man boobs look like low test+high estrogen

 

[Esteban1997]

no you are clearly not at your genetic potential in your pics, just a normal skinny fat dude, unless you have rare/shitty genetic
and you have man boobs look like low test+high estrogen

I always had a little bit of gyno Even before starting steroids

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

I always had a little bit of gyno Even before starting steroids

u r not even 10% of the way to your genetic potential.

 

[JovanD]

Holy crap that's quite noticable for a week, but still kinda fat >fat

 

[Kenma]

You can do this @Esteban1997
Looksmax.org believes in you

Your lopsided nipples were bothering me so I just had to fix it

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

So this is my first week on roids and im noticing big changes for example my forearms grew and my triceps and so has vascularity increased alot Im starting to get acne on my back tho lol

Have you been going to the gym and staying on a diet at least?

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

@Esteban1997 makes sure you're taking your tudca and nac.

 

[BornAgainChad]

Have you been going to the gym and staying on a diet at least?

Check out the cum tribute thread. I did a thing again.

 

[kobecel]

Lose fat you fatass

 

[SchrodingersDick]

How tall are you ? 2000mg/week test e is an insane IFBB tier dose

 

[kobecel]

hes appearently using 2,000+ mg of each/week

What an idiot

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

How tall are you ? 2000mg/week test e is an insane IFBB tier dose

He is either trolling or is going to die.

 

[Esteban1997]

Have you been going to the gym and staying on a diet at least?

Yes I have

 

[androidcel]

Yes I have

how much you bench brah

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

Yes I have

You should have used a fat burner first at least.

 

[Esteban1997]

You should have used a fat burner first at least.

By fat burner you mean clen?

how much you bench brah

Starting to bench 100 kilos brah my strength increased alot

 

[fatcelnolonger]

By fat burner you mean clen?

Starting to bench 100 kilos brah my strength increased alot

Are u really taking 2000mg of test e a day?

 

[Esteban1997]

Are u really taking 2000mg of test e a day?

I was but I lowered my dosage

 

[fatcelnolonger]

I was but I lowered my dosage

Holy fuck take 250mg of test e every 3 days. Idk about tren. You're seriously gonna die

 

[Esteban1997]

Holy fuck take 250mg of test e every 3 days. Idk about tren. You're seriously gonna die

Im not gonna die lol I just mentioned I changed my dosage

 

[Nibba]

lol @ you using roids looking like you've never touched a fucking weight in your life.

Every natty on this board mogs his physique. I hope he ends up actually looking better

 

[Esteban1997]

Holy fuck take 250mg of test e every 3 days. Idk about tren. You're seriously gonna die

The only side affects Im having is a little bit of back acne

 

[nok]

Starting to bench 100 kilos brah my strength increased alot

lmao

 

[SchrodingersDick]

He is either trolling or is going to die.

Seriously @Esteban1997 go see a hormone doctor or whatever they’re called ASAP.. don’t get off cycle just yet cause u might fuck up your endocrine system.. immediately go to a doc and tell him u fucked up and ask him how to minimize the damage. 2000mg/wk is a stupid high dose. You’re gonna get pretty much every single negative side effect amplified x100

 

[Esteban1997]

Seriously @Esteban1997 go see a hormone doctor or whatever they’re called ASAP.. don’t get off cycle just yet cause u might fuck up your endocrine system.. immediately go to a doc and tell him u fucked up and ask him how to minimize the damage. 2000mg/wk is a stupid high dose. You’re gonna get pretty much every single negative side effect amplified x100

I changed my schedule on my dosage

 

[SchrodingersDick]

The only side affects Im having is a little bit of back acne

Bro there’s more to side effects than just external shit you can see.. back acne can’t even be considered a legit side effect at 2000mg bro more like complete endocrine system failure, balls shut down forever, heart enlargement, dangerously high red blood cell count (I think), 100x risk of heart attack, etc.. bro ur seriously gonna die go to a doctor right now..

 

[Arceus300]

It’s absolutely idiot to take roids. To fuck woman you don’t need a body builder body. You just need to be like brad Pitt in fight club. Just train 1 year naturally

 

[Esteban1997]

Iv

It’s absolutely idiot to take roids. To fuck woman you don’t need a body builder body. You just need to be like brad Pitt in fight club. Just train 1 year naturally

Ive been training for 1 year naturally at the gym and havent seen any noticeable results I made no gains so whats your point?

 

[SchrodingersDick]

Tbh just get on 250mg test-e a week and HCG every day and just stay in that dose forever. You probably won’t even need to lift but you could if you want to for more gains. It’s a little more nuanced than just taking HCG, you’ll need to do a couple other things to stay healthy but it’s 10000x healthier than what ur doing now

 

[Esteban1997]

Tbh just get on 250mg test-e a week and HCG every day and just stay in that dose forever. You probably won’t even need to lift but you could if you want to for more gains. It’s a little more nuanced than just taking HCG, you’ll need to do a couple other things to stay healthy but it’s 10000x healthier than what ur doing now

Alright thanks

 

[nok]

I doubt the fact you have trained for a whole year and didn't notice results, even with horrible genetics. It's either you're a troll (100kg bench ) or you don't care of your nutrition.

 

[Esteban1997]

I doubt the fact you have trained for a whole year and didn't notice results, even with horrible genetics. It's either you're a troll (100kg bench ) or you don't care of your nutrition.

Im not a troll lol I did notice some changes in 1 year of training like for example my shoulders got wider but I didnt make any gains whenever I trained my biceps or triceps I just couldnt make them grow

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

It’s absolutely idiot to take roids. To fuck woman you don’t need a body builder body. You just need to be like brad Pitt in fight club. Just train 1 year naturally

Cope. We're taking roids because we don't feel like waiting. We could die tomorrow, Armageddon could come tomorrow, a nuke could drop on us tomorrow. Why waste precious time?

 

[x30001]

What are you doing

 

[BornAgainChad]

So this is my first week on roids and im noticing big changes for example my forearms grew and my triceps and so has vascularity increased alot Im starting to get acne on my back tho lol

You should take an aromatose inhibitor. It looks like you have some gyno going on there.

 

[Esteban1997]

You should take an aromatose inhibitor. It looks like you have some gyno going on there.

I always had a little bit of gyno as a teen its not due to steroids

What are you doing

Its only flu shots bro

 

[VST]

Should focus on losing weight first, lol.

 

[Intel.Imperitive]

I changed my schedule on my dosage

and what the fuck is it now?