[LifeFuel] Surgery results

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he didnt jump "tiers" in attraction. he became better looking version of himself that more or less attracts similar tier women.

also tan is very deceiving. if he didnt have tan the effect would be even less

this is a bad example tbh. i could probably find a very cherrypicked example of guy becoming legit GL after being legit ugly, but it wouldnt be representative of results and expectations to most 3-4 psl incels wanting to get surgery to become 5-6 psl
Of course tan has to do with the result (this in no way goes against countering your argument btw) but the overall point stands:

You are quoted as saying “you won’t be good looking from it(surgery) if you are ugly”.

This statement right here is known as a universal negative categorical proposition.

All that’s needed to disprove it is one(!) counterexample.


An equal statement in logical terms would be “Ravens are black”

All that’s needed to disprove this is one albino raven.

Furthermore, this man came out far better looking in the after, and you also haven’t denied the fact that had he also gone on to get the procedures I mentioned, he’d most definitely be “good looking”

I use him specifically, because whenever a female friend of mine has ever mentioned plastic surgery making people end up looking bad, a few minutes later, I show them his after and ask them if they find him attractive. When they inevitably say yes, I show them the before and ask “was he ugly before?” as well as “does he look natural afterward?” The answers to both are “Yes”.


I’ll end with this statement:

With the time, money, and knowledge of facial aesthetics and harmony, people who are deemed as “ugly”,can without a doubt, end up “good looking”.

There are also people far too “ugly”, or without the three prerequisites I mentioned above, that won’t ever become “good looking”
 
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You are quoted as saying “you won’t be good looking from it(surgery) if you are ugly”.
i was generalising but if you been reading my surgery posts i always outline how theres a decent line of exception(2 out of 10 cases) where variables align so surgery complements patient in a way may actually jump dating tier and change his life. this is rare though

also there's an exponential curve regarding difficulty of improving your looks. the bigger subhuman you are, the easier it is to become better looking till a certain point. the better looking you get the harder it gets to become even better looking

people would often bring argument where patient went from like 2 psl to 4 psl as a measure to prove "surgery is not cope". what they fail to understand its 100x easier going from 2 to 4, than it is from 4 to 6.

the question is not how you get to normie, it is how you go from normie to very high tier normie/chadlite/chad. and no, its not about "fixing your failos". its way more complex than that and touches into territory of harmony. sometimes your "failo" would be key element to your natural harmony and by "fixing your failo" you can even sabotage your look

I use him specifically, because whenever a female friend of mine has ever mentioned plastic surgery making people end up looking bad, a few minutes later, I show them his after and ask them if they find him attractive. When they inevitably say yes, I show them the before and ask “was he ugly before?” as well as “does he look natural afterward?” The answers to both are “Yes”.
what girls say doesnt matter anything cuz often they dont even know themselves what they're attracted to. they can't consciously rationalise why they're attracted to what they're attracted to and when you ask them to rationalise it, they'd often just start virtue signalling or giving generic answers. they aren't even lying they're just rather clueless. sub-consciously their brain perfectly understands what they find genetically superior though. you cant speak to their subconscious, you can only watch it manifest itself through their behaviour
 
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i was generalising but if you been reading my surgery posts i always outline how theres a decent line of exception(2 out of 10 cases) where variables align so surgery complements patient in a way may actually jump dating tier and change his life. this is rare though

also there's an exponential curve regarding difficulty of improving your looks. the bigger subhuman you are, the easier it is to become better looking till a certain point. the better looking you get the harder it gets to become even better looking

people would often bring argument where patient went from like 2 psl to 4 psl as a measure to prove "surgery is not cope". what they fail to understand its 100x easier going from 2 to 4, than it is from 4 to 6.

the question is not how you get to normie, it is how you go from normie to very high tier normie/chadlite/chad. and no, its not about "fixing your failos". its way more complex than that and touches into territory of harmony. sometimes your "failo" would be key element to your natural harmony and by "fixing your failo" you can even sabotage your look


what girls say doesnt matter anything cuz often they dont even know themselves what they're attracted to. they can't consciously rationalise why they're attracted to what they're attracted to and when you ask them to rationalise it, they'd often just start virtue signalling or giving generic answers. they aren't even lying they're just rather clueless. sub-consciously their brain perfectly understands what they find genetically superior though. you cant speak to their subconscious, you can only watch it manifest itself through their behaviour
What failo would mess up ones harmony if they didn’t fix it?
 
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i was generalising but if you been reading my surgery posts i always outline how theres a decent line of exception(2 out of 10 cases) where variables align so surgery complements patient in a way may actually jump dating tier and change his life. this is rare though

also there's an exponential curve regarding difficulty of improving your looks. the bigger subhuman you are, the easier it is to become better looking till a certain point. the better looking you get the harder it gets to become even better looking

people would often bring argument where patient went from like 2 psl to 4 psl as a measure to prove "surgery is not cope". what they fail to understand its 100x easier going from 2 to 4, than it is from 4 to 6.

the question is not how you get to normie, it is how you go from normie to very high tier normie/chadlite/chad. and no, its not about "fixing your failos". its way more complex than that and touches into territory of harmony. sometimes your "failo" would be key element to your natural harmony and by "fixing your failo" you can even sabotage your look


what girls say doesnt matter anything cuz often they dont even know themselves what they're attracted to. they can't consciously rationalise why they're attracted to what they're attracted to and when you ask them to rationalise it, they'd often just start virtue signalling or giving generic answers. they aren't even lying they're just rather clueless. sub-consciously their brain perfectly understands what they find genetically superior though. you cant speak to their subconscious, you can only watch it manifest itself through their behaviour
As to the girls comment, I’m not asking them why they thought his after was attractive, just whether it was, and their reactions to his after are also entirely subconscious, considering how shocked they are, which easily translates to the conclusion they found him good looking after, and ugly before, no psychoanalysis needed there lmao.

And again my friend, I agree that a few surgeries will get someone ugly to average, and then it’s more difficult to get good looking, but with knowledge (so you don’t fuck up) and time and money, it’s doable.

My final point was this:

With the time, money, and knowledge of facial aesthetics and harmony, people who are deemed as “ugly”,can without a doubt, end up “good looking”.

There are also people far too “ugly”, or without the three prerequisites I mentioned above, that won’t ever become “good looking”



If you agree with me here, then I don’t see the controversy.
 
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Hey man, respectfully, I disagree with the statement “you won’t be good looking from it(surgery) if you are ugly”.

It could be that you and I are operating off different definitions of the terms “good looking” and “ugly”

If you are defining ugly as below average in looks (let’s say from 0-4/10 real world scale)

And you are defining good looking as above average in looks
(let’s say from 7-10/10 real world scale)

And let’s also add “average”
(let’s say from 5-6/10 real world scale)

I’d say this example right here, is enough to show you’re wrong; especially if you ironically enough added 3 more surgeries to the after:
•hair transplant
•eyelid surgery to fix NCT,
and fillers to eliminate upper eyelid exposure, as well as to augment the cheek and jaw implants if desired)

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I don’t see how anyone who uses the standard definition of ugly wouldn’t have classified him as that beforehand. He’s definitely below average, and not by just a bit.

I also don’t see how anyone who uses the standard definition of good looking wouldn’t classify the him as that afterward *especially* if he got the additional procedures I listed, which anyone who knows about said procedures, knows that he can easily get them, the results of these additional surgeries are incredibly predictable, AND they’d easily make him even better looking.
damn I need to tan asap, that alone raised him like half a point
 
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What failo would mess up ones harmony if they didn’t fix it?
God there’s plenty of those, I’ll just list a few:

•Incredibly above or below average IPD (this would be hardest to address out of the ones below)
•Horrible nose
•Ears that stick out to an enormous degree
•6-Head Hairline
•Extreme(!) facial acne scars
•Horrendous teeth and/or extremely narrow arch
•Very prominent overbite/underbite

You will likely never see a single person who has “harmony” with any of these “failos”
 
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What failo would mess up ones harmony if they didn’t fix it?
i think its person specific. could be nose, jaw, canthalt tilt etc.

sometimes big nose that seems failo and "ugly" and may look ugly in picture may look perfectly proportionate to girls in motion and its proportionate size to your skull. you'd take selfies and see how big your ugly nose it, get surgery and then you look weird asf in motion cuz ur harmony is thrown off

it could also be jaw implants or fillers, getting massive lower third for specific skull size, pheno etc. could be detrimental to your whole loosk as your natural harmony and pheno absolutely dont warrant that and you just look some retarded PSL morph in the end, not arousing to females.

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this guy is poster from this forum and in my opinion he looks a lot better on the left. psl autists would start screeching, but "muuhhhh he fixed his lower third!!! he fixed his failo! what a chad! " but in real life it just doesnt work that way

the truth is it could be anything and its hard to know beforehand, this is why surgeries can be dangerous from aesthetic standpoint

And again my friend, I agree that a few surgeries will get someone ugly to average, and then it’s more difficult to get good looking, but with knowledge (so you don’t fuck up) and time and money, it’s doable.

My final point was this:

With the time, money, and knowledge of facial aesthetics and harmony, people who are deemed as “ugly”,can without a doubt, end up “good looking”.

There are also people far too “ugly”, or without the three prerequisites I mentioned above, that won’t ever become “good looking”



If you agree with me here, then I don’t see the controversy.
It's not that it's literally impossible on a technical level, its that it happens very rarely. All surgerycels on PSL, who went through a bunch of surgeries either end up looking weird, or if not, they report underwhelming results from female conquests, even though they'd get rated highly to oblivion on forums. And these are the ones who have a lot of money, read a lot about aesthetics and actually go to get the surgeries

on the other hand you have daydreaming indians and blacks literally beleving they will be 6 psl in a few years with starting base 2-4 psl. its extremely hard going from 4-6 psl, but its technically possible yes. going from 6 to 7 or even 8 is close to impossible
 
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i think its person specific. could be nose, jaw, canthalt tilt etc.

sometimes big nose that seems failo and "ugly" and may look ugly in picture may look perfectly proportionate to girls in motion and its proportionate size to your skull. you'd take selfies and see how big your ugly nose it, get surgery and then you look weird asf in motion cuz ur harmony is thrown off

it could also be jaw implants or fillers, getting massive lower third for specific skull size, pheno etc. could be detrimental to your whole loosk as your natural harmony and pheno absolutely dont warrant that and you just look some retarded PSL morph in the end, not arousing to females.

View attachment 124088 this guy is poster from this forum and in my opinion he looks a lot better on the left. psl autists would start screeching, but "muuhhhh he fixed his lower third!!! he fixed his failo! what a chad! " but in real life it just doesnt work that way

the truth is it could be anything and its hard to know beforehand, this is why surgeries can be dangerous from aesthetic standpoint


It's not that it's literally impossible on a technical level, its that it happens very rarely. All surgerycels on PSL, who went through a bunch of surgeries either end up looking weird, or if not, they report underwhelming results from female conquests, even though they'd get rated highly to oblivion on forums. And these are the ones who have a lot of money, read a lot about aesthetics and actually go to get the surgeries

on the other hand you have daydreaming indians and blacks literally beleving they will be 6 psl in a few years with starting base 2-4 psl. its extremely hard going from 4-6 psl, but its technically possible yes. going from 6 to 7 or even 8 is close to impossible
You said they’d “read a lot about aesthetics”, I don’t mean you need to read about aesthetics to get the best results, I mean you need to know about aesthetics, as in, know about concepts like facial harmony, proportions, phenotypes. Anyone can read about aesthetics, conclude that a square jaw is desirable, and go on to fuck up their face. I’m on board with you there.

I just very much doubt the “surgerycels” who got bad results were actually knowledgeable when it comes to harmony, proportions, and phenotype. They most likely went to a cheap surgeon, and looked for a quick fix, cheap off the shelf implant and expected a nice jawline afterwards. All that proves is that most people who get plastic surgery are idiots, not that plastic surgery can’t make ugly people good looking.
I let eppley do it, I seen that he prints out your skull ct scan and measures it using ratios to determine the correct augmentation

He truly is a god amongst men, even amongst surgeons.
I think it was honestly very good of you to let him decide that as long as you made it clear you don’t want jaw lateral projection to equal cheekbone lateral projection—far too many people want that and end looking like blocks
 
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Skills implants to widen the temporal region and add volume to my forehead area.

Also fixing my jaw angle vertical height and angle.

And also otpladty revision to get ears like this because right now looks bad

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I also want to widen my temporal and add forehead mass. Do you know how much will you need? The ideal male forehead shape? Slope degree? Browridge break,
 
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Eppley measures all this and works it out using ratios and benchmark measurements.

He is a god.
So you give him full control? What makes you thino you need it? In my case he told me he thinks i need it
 
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I just very much doubt the “surgerycels” who got bad results were actually knowledgeable when it comes to harmony, proportions, and phenotype. They most likely went to a cheap surgeon, and looked for a quick fix, cheap off the shelf implant and expected a nice jawline afterwards. All that proves is that most people who get plastic surgery are idiots, not that plastic surgery can’t make ugly people good looking.
It's hard to argue with point bcuz this is like "if you really want something you'll chase it till the day you die, you invest all the knowledge, all the effort etc." It's a nice mentality, I like it, but you're talking about ideals and idealistic scenarios, I like to pragmatic and practical and I personally don't see it being as dreamlike and idealistic when it comes to realisigin in the real world.

Most incels aren't high iq enough to completely understand their own facial dynamics and what they need to get fixed.
Most incels don't have enough money to get everything they need so they'd legitimately jump looks-tiers.
Most incels, even if they have good amount of money, don't have enough to afford the best surgeons for optimal results.
Most incels don't even have the willpower to improve their looks enough, they'd rather rot or go for cope looksmaxxes.
Most incels don't understand how looks and behaviour and social dynamics work together for formulating IRL impression, so even with better looks they'd likely fail from the lack of positive reinforcement regarding looks during childhood and adolesence.
Most incels don't even know what they want tbh. They only know the things they don't have, but have very little sense of who they really are and what they want to do in life

keyword is "most".

in an idealistic world plastic surgery works out. you have enough money to afford the best surgeon that designs the best implant that perfectly fits into your harmony, he perfeclty executes the surgery with no complication and you go on fixing your other failos that still dont throw your harmony off and you go up 3 psl points, nobody ever notices you did something. you are now 6 psl. girls would be attracted to you the exact same way to genetically 6 psl chadlite. the implants would give no complications long term, they wouldn't need revision. you succesfully cheated your destiny

meanwhile in the real world. 2nd msg is from my normie chad irl friend

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It's hard to argue with point bcuz this is like "if you really want something you'll chase it till the day you die, you invest all the knowledge, all the effort etc." It's a nice mentality, I like it, but you're talking about ideals and idealistic scenarios, I like to pragmatic and practical and I personally don't see it being as dreamlike and idealistic when it comes to realisigin in the real world.

Most incels aren't high iq enough to completely understand their own facial dynamics and what they need to get fixed.
Most incels don't have enough money to get everything they need so they'd legitimately jump looks-tiers.
Most incels, even if they have good amount of money, don't have enough to afford the best surgeons for optimal results.
Most incels don't even have the willpower to improve their looks enough, they'd rather rot or go for cope looksmaxxes.
Most incels don't understand how looks and behaviour and social dynamics work together for formulating IRL impression, so even with better looks they'd likely fail from the lack of positive reinforcement regarding looks during childhood and adolesence.
Most incels don't even know what they want tbh. They only know the things they don't have, but have very little sense of who they really are and what they want to do in life

keyword is "most".

in an idealistic world plastic surgery works out. you have enough money to afford the best surgeon that designs the best implant that perfectly fits into your harmony, he perfeclty executes the surgery with no complication and you go on fixing your other failos that still dont throw your harmony off and you go up 3 psl points, nobody ever notices you did something. you are now 6 psl. girls would be attracted to you the exact same way to genetically 6 psl chadlite. the implants would give no complications long term, they wouldn't need revision. you succesfully cheated your destiny

meanwhile in the real world

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Then we are in agreement—I’m not here to save all Incels lmao, only to help the ones that are able to help themselves.
And man that snipe at @facemaxxed at the end was unnecessary lmao, I hope his final result is both nice and natural looking.
 
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It's hard to argue with point bcuz this is like "if you really want something you'll chase it till the day you die, you invest all the knowledge, all the effort etc." It's a nice mentality, I like it, but you're talking about ideals and idealistic scenarios, I like to pragmatic and practical and I personally don't see it being as dreamlike and idealistic when it comes to realisigin in the real world.

Most incels aren't high iq enough to completely understand their own facial dynamics and what they need to get fixed.
Most incels don't have enough money to get everything they need so they'd legitimately jump looks-tiers.
Most incels, even if they have good amount of money, don't have enough to afford the best surgeons for optimal results.
Most incels don't even have the willpower to improve their looks enough, they'd rather rot or go for cope looksmaxxes.
Most incels don't understand how looks and behaviour and social dynamics work together for formulating IRL impression, so even with better looks they'd likely fail from the lack of positive reinforcement regarding looks during childhood and adolesence.
Most incels don't even know what they want tbh. They only know the things they don't have, but have very little sense of who they really are and what they want to do in life

keyword is "most".

in an idealistic world plastic surgery works out. you have enough money to afford the best surgeon that designs the best implant that perfectly fits into your harmony, he perfeclty executes the surgery with no complication and you go on fixing your other failos that still dont throw your harmony off and you go up 3 psl points, nobody ever notices you did something. you are now 6 psl. girls would be attracted to you the exact same way to genetically 6 psl chadlite. the implants would give no complications long term, they wouldn't need revision. you succesfully cheated your destiny

meanwhile in the real world

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How do you churn out these long ass responses so fast? Genuinely curious. I shit myself when I have to write 2000 word essays and here you are writing away like theres no tomorrow
 
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How do you churn out these long ass responses so fast? Genuinely curious. I shit myself when I have to write 2000 word essays and here you are writing away like theres no tomorrow
i guess im good at it
Then we are in agreement—I’m not here to save all Incels lmao, only to help the ones that are able to help themselves.
And man that snipe at @facemaxxed at the end was unnecessary lmao, I hope his final result is both nice and natural looking.
are you CJ the ascender from lookism?
 
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i guess im good at it

are you CJ the ascender from lookism?
Lmao the European guy who got his ears pinned and fillers? My account on lookism is with the exact same screen name.

Does he have a positive or negative reputation on these forums?
 
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Lmao the European guy who got his ears pinned and fillers? My account on lookism is with the exact same screen name.

Does he have a positive or negative reputation on these forums?
rather positive. i asked because you talk like him

he was also soemthing like "i'll help any incel ascend as long as they help themselves" etc
 
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rather positive. i asked because you talk like him

he was also soemthing like "i'll help any incel ascend as long as they help themselves" etc
You say “was”, is he inactive now?
I also think that if you’re Incel, your priorities should be finding something in life fulfilling outside of being attractive or getting girls, going to school and getting a high paying job (or getting a high paying job without school like I did), and through the years, try to improve your appearance little by little, and only when you can really afford it, then you consider doing the more invasive things, if you never get to that point, then at least the rest of your life is sorted out.
 
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You say “was”, is he inactive now?
I also think that if you’re Incel, your priorities should be finding something in life fulfilling outside of being attractive or getting girls, going to school and getting a high paying job (or getting a high paying job without school like I did), and through the years, try to improve your appearance little by little, and only when you can really afford it, then you consider doing the more invasive things, if you never get to that point, then at least the rest of your life is sorted out.
whats ur deal personally? dont need to go too specific, just want to know ur angle. oldcel who did plastic surgeries?
 
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whats ur deal personally? dont need to go too specific, just want to know ur angle. oldcel who did plastic surgeries?
Lmao @ Coming off as an old man, I get that all the time in my personal life.

•I’m between the age of 18-22
•I’ve never had a single surgery in my life
•I plan on getting double jaw surgery in the near future.

Just a few things about myself lol
 
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Lmao @ Coming off as an old man, I get that all the time in my personal life.

•I’m between the age of 18-22
•I’ve never had a single surgery in my life
•I plan on getting double jaw surgery in the near future.

Just a few things about myself lol
How do you get a surgeon to perform double jaw on you? I know an individual that emailed gunson requesting double jaw for aesthetic reasons and he was declined. If you were to say that you would like double jaw surgery becuase your "maxilla is recessed", is that a valid reason for a surgeon to accept? or does it depend on the severity of maxilla recession?
 
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Neels visser is fucking top tier.

He is much better lookin than me, although I can see how you see some resemblance.


No, does it look like I did anything to my hairline?

Here’s the front view
Facemaxxed, is this picture after or before?

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How do you get a surgeon to perform double jaw on you? I know an individual that emailed gunson requesting double jaw for aesthetic reasons and he was declined. If you were to say that you would like double jaw surgery becuase your "maxilla is recessed", is that a valid reason for a surgeon to accept? or does it depend on the severity of maxilla recession?
My case will doesn’t “necessitate” double jaw just to fix bite, for that only one jaw would need to be operated on.

However, I also have slight asymmetry in both jaws (imagine my maxilla having more vertical growth on one side, as well as my mandible, leading to a middle and lower third that is lopsided and off center by about 1-3 mm). Here I definitely need a combo of maxillary impaction as well as bilateral Sagittal split osteotomy, in order to fix my canted jaws and face. Since I already have bite/airway issues, A&G would gladly address this as well.
 
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I just very much doubt the “surgerycels” who got bad results were actually knowledgeable when it comes to harmony, proportions, and phenotype. They most likely went to a cheap surgeon, and looked for a quick fix, cheap off the shelf implant and expected a nice jawline afterwards.
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My case will doesn’t “necessitate” double jaw just to fix bite, for that only one jaw would need to be operated on.

However, I also have slight asymmetry in both jaws (imagine my maxilla having more vertical growth on one side, as well as my mandible, leading to a middle and lower third that is lopsided and off center by about 1-3 mm). Here I definitely need a combo of maxillary impaction as well as bilateral Sagittal split osteotomy, in order to fix my canted jaws and face. Since I already have bite/airway issues, A&G would gladly address this as well.
be aware A&G have a reasonably thorough screening process. you seem to have your head screwed on through.

as it stands what kind of malocclusion do you have?
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be aware A&G have a reasonably thorough screening process. you seem to have your head screwed on through.

as it stands what kind of malocclusion do you have?


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I have Class III; and I’m glad I made a good case as to why, surgery can most definitely make an ugly person attractive.
 
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One of the biggest reasons people can look weird after surgery, especially one where they get an implant or fillers to create angularity is because they havent first gotten to super low BF. Most guys, esp male models who have that super angular look are literally Auschwitz tier levels of body fat. Most faggots think "im lean enough and muh face is still not angular, I have no bones" when they do most times and would have some decent visible structure but they take the easy way out and just get surgery so the doctor has to put in a large filler or whatever to be able to create definition under all that fat and it looks fucking horrible.
 
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One of the biggest reasons people can look weird after surgery, especially one where they get an implant or fillers to create angularity is because they havent first gotten to super low BF. Most guys, esp male models who have that super angular look are literally Auschwitz tier levels of body fat. Most faggots think "im lean enough and muh face is still not angular, I have no bones" when they do most times and would have some decent visible structure but they take the easy way out and just get surgery so the doctor has to put in a large filler or whatever to be able to create definition under all that fat and it looks fucking horrible.
What bodyfat is ideal for a jaw implant?
12%?
 
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What bodyfat is ideal for a jaw implant?
12%?
Your stomach/body should look this lean AT LEAST





Remember when that PSL user got zygo implants from Eppley, he said Eppley was able to do such a good job cause his face already was very lean and he got GREAT FUCKING RESULTS
 
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Your stomach/body should look this lean AT LEAST





Remember when that PSL user got zygo implants from Eppley, he said Eppley was able to do such a good job cause his face already was very lean and he got GREAT FUCKING RESULTS
Great point ngl, Idk why everyone overlooks this. I remember looking at my university Id card from 2 years ago when I was skinny af and I literally had bulging cheekbones.

So if my surgery is soon would it be better just to become underweight since I dont have to time to gym cell and get ripped?
 
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Great point ngl, Idk why everyone overlooks this. I remember looking at my university Id card from 2 years ago when I was skinny af and I literally had bulging cheekbones.

So if my surgery is soon would it be better just to become underweight since I dont have to time to gym cell and get ripped?
Theres no such thing as underweight, thats a cope created by our fatass modern society. Leanness is associated with longer lifespan in mice
 
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Theres no such thing as underweight, thats a cope created by our fatass modern society. Leanness is associated with longer lifespan in mice
Brb gonna Auschwitzmaxx b4 surgery, lol but yeah I get what you're saying
 

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