the "jaw is 75% enviroment!!" cope needs to stop now

[herring]

the only reason you mandiblecels claim that shit is because it moves the blame away from your shitty genetics towards jewified diets and mouthbreathing.

yet when i look at pictures of my close and more distant relatives, i can see very clear similarity in overall skull shape including mandibular length, gonial angle and chin height, even tho my relatives grew up in some chechen village in the caucasus mountains while i grew up in the cucked west, i also have a deviated septum forcing me to mouthbreath for a large part of my childhood and i still have a decent mandible. i notice the exact same thing when looking at relatives of other people, almost the same exact skull shape.

the "ancient skulls all have perfect mandibular development which clearly indicates that modern diets are cucked" argument is also dogshit, have you ever considered that the only reason the cavemen people we found the skulls of only made it that far into adulthood because their genes were that good in the first place? mandiblecels probably died long before ever reaching maturity.

don't get me wrong, proper oral and body posture still makes the difference between a model tier chad and a robust jock, but it's still mostly genetic as long as you don't mouthbreath fucking 24/7 and give your maxilla at least some time to "rest on your mandible".

 

[Deleted member 10172]

me looking for who the fuck asked

 

[Fgsfds]

Mew vs. Mew senior

Goodnight to your thread

 

[lutte]

demonstrably false

 

[Deleted member 4106]

I agree is genetic.
Henry Cavill was fat until his late teens, but he has a divine jaw.
But the environment also influences, if you are a mouth breather this will harm you, I say this because I developed underbite because of the wrong position of the teeth

 

[eduardkoopman]

75% genetics, 25% environment. imo.

identical twin dylan and cole

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Did you have decent neck posture? You most likely did. Many studies on neck posture and mandible, and many on effects of mouth breathing on it too.

 

[herring]

Did you have decent neck posture? You most likely did. Many studies on neck posture and mandible, and many on effects of mouth breathing on it too.

eh, it was incel tier tbh, but i did participate in contact sports from a young age which might have helped with hormones during puberty or st

 

[patricknotstar]

the only reason you mandiblecels claim that shit is because it moves the blame away from your shitty genetics towards jewified diets and mouthbreathing.

yet when i look at pictures of my close and more distant relatives, i can see very clear similarity in overall skull shape including mandibular length, gonial angle and chin height, even tho my relatives grew up in some chechen village in the caucasus mountains while i grew up in the cucked west, i also have a deviated septum forcing me to mouthbreath for a large part of my childhood and i still have a decent mandible. i notice the exact same thing when looking at relatives of other people, almost the same exact skull shape.

the "ancient skulls all have perfect mandibular development which clearly indicates that modern diets are cucked" argument is also dogshit, have you ever considered that the only reason the cavemen people we found the skulls of only made it that far into adulthood because their genes were that good in the first place? mandiblecels probably died long before ever reaching maturity.

don't get me wrong, proper oral and body posture still makes the difference between a model tier chad and a robust jock, but it's still mostly genetic as long as you don't mouthbreath fucking 24/7 and give your maxilla at least some time to "rest on your mandible".

your completely right, mandible is genetic, mouthbreathing doesnt cause downward growth, a downward grown face naturally mouth breathes because its more comfortable. If you go out most kids have their parents features, if parents are forward grown so are kids.

 

[Deleted member 4123]

75% genetics, 25% environment. imo.

identical twin dylan and cole

They look similar. One just inherited other features from the other parents, that's why. 2nd highely also has a higher bf.

 

[DatNibba11]

Great post. Back to mewing :100111

 

[Deleted member 9288]

You do present a fair argument, for if you lack in testosterone in the cavemen times you'd be a prey and your genes will die out quick, only the ones that are actually superior and strong make it out and live for their remains to be uncovered by archaeologists .

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Mew vs. Mew senior

Goodnight to your thread

he has a mother too though

also mew senior is like 200 years old he probably looked better before

 

[hairyballscel]

the "ancient skulls all have perfect mandibular development which clearly indicates that modern diets are cucked" argument is also dogshit, have you ever considered that the only reason the cavemen people we found the skulls of only made it that far into adulthood because their genes were that good in the first place?

where did those good genes go?

australian aborginals went from chad jaw to incel jaw rife with malocclusion and all sorts of dental issues in the space of one generation

how do genetics explain this?

 

[hairyballscel]

and strong make it out and live for their remains to be uncovered by archaeologists .

why wouldn't the "prey" be discovered? this argument makes no sense

 

[hairyballscel]

your completely right, mandible is genetic, mouthbreathing doesnt cause downward growth, a downward grown face naturally mouth breathes because its more comfortable. If you go out most kids have their parents features, if parents are forward grown so are kids.

why is there a significantly higher incidence of downward growth/malocclusion today then there was 1000's of years ago coinciding with the development of agriculture?

 

[Deleted member 9288]

why wouldn't the "prey" be discovered? this argument makes no sense

Because they wouldn't make it out to maturity I guess

 

[Deleted member 9670]

I agree is genetic.
Henry Cavill was fat until his late teens, but he has a divine jaw.
But the environment also influences, if you are a mouth breather this will harm you, I say this because I developed underbite because of the wrong position of the teeth

Fatcels chew a lot during puberty that's why they are hidden. Chads

 

[HighIQcel]

why is there a significantly higher incidence of downward growth/malocclusion today then there was 1000's of years ago coinciding with the development of agriculture?

There were still a lot of people with malocclusion and downward growth even 1000 years ago.

I wonder, how do you know that nowadays is heigher ncidence of downward growth/malocclusion?

 

[hairyballscel]

Because they wouldn't make it out to maturity I guess

?? there remains would still exist doe

There were still a lot of people with malocclusion and downward growth even 1000 years ago.

no way near the same extent as today, malocclusion was pretty much non existant before agriculture

I wonder, how do you know that nowadays is heigher ncidence of downward growth/malocclusion?

malocclusion is known to be way higher today than it was in pre historic times
multiple studies to attest to this

The most common malocclusions in order of prevalence were Angle’s Class I (52.8%), Angle’s Class II (31.8%), Angle’s Class III (15.4%), crowding (47.2%), excessive overjet (> 2 mm) (22.2%), reduced overjet (< 1 mm) (11.4%), excessive overbite (> 2 mm) (23.4%), reduced overbite (< 1 mm) (12.2%), anterior crossbite (4.8%), posterior crossbite (9.4%) and open bite (4.6%).


It was noted that only 14.83% of the children had normal occlusion while 85.17% had some sort of altered occlusion, with 57.24% presenting with Class I malocclusion, 21.73%, Class II, and 6.2%, Class III. Crossbite was also found in 19.58% of the children, with 10.41% in the anterior and 9.17% in the posterior region. Deep overbite was found in 18.09% and open bite, in 15.85% of the sample. Caries and/or tooth loss were present in 52.97% of the children.


Hunter gatherer skulls are always described as robust, with proper occlusion regardless of time period/locality

read up on weston price

 

[Deleted member 9670]

he has a mother too though

also mew senior is like 200 years old he probably looked better before

you don't go from square face to yo cylinder skull

 

[Deleted member 9090]

@hairyballscel I agree 100%

 

[Deleted member 9090]

https://looksmax.org/threads/how-epi...w-attractive-you-will-be.258998/#post-4449809
basically this

 

[Deleted member 7029]

JFL at this giga cope, you wont fucking die if you have bad jaw genetics. If you did evolution would have wiped them out. Our ancestors didn't eat rocks. Will be posting my mewing mega gains soon because of this utter cope.

 

[Deleted member 9288]

?? there remains would still exist doe

yeah but the archaeologists would rule them out as "underdeveloped" or "prepubescent" not fully grown adults where they would compare

 

[Agendum]

"but my family genes show this!" How the hell do you expect genes to express themselves if through variation if the environmental factors aren't changing??? Like soft poorly nutritious manufactured foods for over a century?

 

[Agendum]

?? there remains would still exist doe

no way near the same extent as today, malocclusion was pretty much non existant before agriculture

malocclusion is known to be way higher today than it was in pre historic times
multiple studies to attest to this

The most common malocclusions in order of prevalence were Angle’s Class I (52.8%), Angle’s Class II (31.8%), Angle’s Class III (15.4%), crowding (47.2%), excessive overjet (> 2 mm) (22.2%), reduced overjet (< 1 mm) (11.4%), excessive overbite (> 2 mm) (23.4%), reduced overbite (< 1 mm) (12.2%), anterior crossbite (4.8%), posterior crossbite (9.4%) and open bite (4.6%).


It was noted that only 14.83% of the children had normal occlusion while 85.17% had some sort of altered occlusion, with 57.24% presenting with Class I malocclusion, 21.73%, Class II, and 6.2%, Class III. Crossbite was also found in 19.58% of the children, with 10.41% in the anterior and 9.17% in the posterior region. Deep overbite was found in 18.09% and open bite, in 15.85% of the sample. Caries and/or tooth loss were present in 52.97% of the children.


Hunter gatherer skulls are always described as robust, with proper occlusion regardless of time period/locality

read up on weston price

Very few people are aware of the agriculturepill, Its the most historically underrated one. Most guys like to sperg on genetics because it sounds cool but forgot we're not in the 90's anymore.

 

[hairyballscel]

yeah but the archaeologists would rule them out as "underdeveloped" or "prepubescent" not fully grown adults where they would compare

doesnt mean shit, they would still conduct an analysis

 

[Deleted member 9288]

doesnt mean shit, they would still conduct an analysis

An analysis compared to what? Other adults? It's an unfair comparison

 

[hairyballscel]

@hairyballscel I agree 100%

https://looksmax.org/threads/how-epi...w-attractive-you-will-be.258998/#post-4449809
basically this

i even see this shit in my own family

looking at pics of my mum when she was young and living in rural africa she had great development, very strong jaw, high cheekbones and was very forward grown, and as times goes by she mouthbreathes even more and has a soft diet and her face becomes more downswung and recessed

somalis had amazing bone structure in precolonial times, now they probably have some of the worst teeth/development in the whole continent

this is just a microcosm of what happened to pretty much every society that developed

 

[sorrowfulsad]

75% genetics, 25% environment. imo.

identical twin dylan and cole

cope cope cope
one of my twin brothers literally mouth breathes and the other one is mewing. they been doing this for years now and guess who mogs who? if you are born ugly everything except a man cutting and rearranging your face is cope

 

[Deleted member 10185]

i even see this shit in my own family

looking at pics of my mum when she was young and living in rural africa she had great development, very strong jaw, high cheekbones and was very forward grown, and as times goes by she mouthbreathes even more and has a soft diet and her face becomes more downswung and recessed

somalis had amazing bone structure in precolonial times, now they probably have some of the worst teeth/development in the whole continent
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this is just a microcosm of what happened to pretty much every society that developed

So many Africans have top tier zygos. I see it everywhere.

 

[hairyballscel]

So many African have top tier zygos. I see it everywhere.

missed me doe

 

[Deleted member 10185]

Moutbreaking can cause recession if its became chronic habit. below Average bones are genetic but I think subhuman recession is part of environment.

 

[Deleted member 9090]

i even see this shit in my own family

looking at pics of my mum when she was young and living in rural africa she had great development, very strong jaw, high cheekbones and was very forward grown, and as times goes by she mouthbreathes even more and has a soft diet and her face becomes more downswung and recessed

somalis had amazing bone structure in precolonial times, now they probably have some of the worst teeth/development in the whole continent
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this is just a microcosm of what happened to pretty much every society that developed

this.

 

[eduardkoopman]

They look similar. One just inherited other features from the other parents, that's why. 2nd highely also has a higher bf.

cope cope cope
one of my twin brothers literally mouth breathes and the other one is mewing. they been doing this for years now and guess who mogs who? if you are born ugly everything except a man cutting and rearranging your face is cope

Everyone here calling me cope. with muh 75% genetics and 25% lifestyle factors.

The one beleiving in 100% genetics call me cope.
The one beleive in 100% environment call me cope.

I'm the ultimate cope maxxer, suggesting both matters.

 

[animo123]

JFL at this giga cope, you wont fucking die if you have bad jaw genetics. If you did evolution would have wiped them out. Our ancestors didn't eat rocks. Will be posting my mewing mega gains soon because of this utter cope.

youve gotten results from chewing?

 

[patricknotstar]

why is there a significantly higher incidence of downward growth/malocclusion today then there was 1000's of years ago coinciding with the development of agriculture?

less natural selection and more advanced medical treatment allowing subhumans to live long enough to reproduce. 1000 years ago ppl would have 8 kids and half of em would die

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

75% genetics, 25% environment. imo.

identical twin dylan and cole

how come the chincel is less norwooded

 

[magnificentcel]

I agree is genetic.
Henry Cavill was fat until his late teens, but he has a divine jaw.
But the environment also influences, if you are a mouth breather this will harm you, I say this because I developed underbite because of the wrong position of the teeth

How does being fat as a child prevent jaw development?

 

[tyronelite]

missed me doe

same jfl

 

[tyronelite]

OP is kinda right. My dad has a robust jaw & wide palate. I never placed my tongue on my roof & turned out decent.

 

[herring]

how come the chincel is less norwooded

less testosterone = less DHT

 

[Deleted member 4106]

How does being fat as a child prevent jaw development?

Generally those who are fat, have a shitty lifestyle, and high bodyfat affects testosterone levels

 

[RecessedCel5]

holyshit op you are so retarded , srsly go kill yourself , literal subhuman iq

i almost got a brain tumor from reading your incoherent babble

you are a threat to society that needs to be neutralized immediately

this is where you belong.

 

[Deleted member 5927]

I had a super healthy development in terms of diet and sleep. I grew past my fathers height for this very reason. But I have my Asian mothers facial structure. I’m not underdeveloped I literally just have her traits. No amount of eating a different way or anything else would change it. I just developed as my genetic code wanted it too.

 

[Deleted member 3323]

the only reason you mandiblecels claim that shit is because it moves the blame away from your shitty genetics towards jewified diets and mouthbreathing.

yet when i look at pictures of my close and more distant relatives, i can see very clear similarity in overall skull shape including mandibular length, gonial angle and chin height, even tho my relatives grew up in some chechen village in the caucasus mountains while i grew up in the cucked west, i also have a deviated septum forcing me to mouthbreath for a large part of my childhood and i still have a decent mandible. i notice the exact same thing when looking at relatives of other people, almost the same exact skull shape.

the "ancient skulls all have perfect mandibular development which clearly indicates that modern diets are cucked" argument is also dogshit, have you ever considered that the only reason the cavemen people we found the skulls of only made it that far into adulthood because their genes were that good in the first place? mandiblecels probably died long before ever reaching maturity.

don't get me wrong, proper oral and body posture still makes the difference between a model tier chad and a robust jock, but it's still mostly genetic as long as you don't mouthbreath fucking 24/7 and give your maxilla at least some time to "rest on your mandible".

I dont agree with you and I agree with you. This is speaking from personal experience - Before I mewed my jaw was weak and recessed and when i did mew for around 1 year my mandible was weak in definition but I was no longer an overbitecel (braces did help).

When i started chewing my jaw got defined as hell and even lengthened my ramus. Enviorment has that effect.

But like you said genetics play a HUGE role aswell. My neighbor's son has a huge overbite but his jaw is defined and strong. Hes recessed but he genetically jas a defined mandible.

Lots of asians have strong cheekbones and wide jaws but its because of their genetics for the most part. Its a combination of both in my honest opinion. Envior and genetics

 

[Deleted member 5698]

Foda-se.