The only effect from mse

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This will be the only improvement from mse. A wider dental arch. Nothing more. 0 psl increase. Mse is a meme.

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truth. it's an overhyped cope here.
 
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No bro mse also affect lips, zygos and nasal base significantly
Msdo affects chin width significantly
 
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U just as dumb as all else not being able to understand a scientific paper

U waisting air every min
End it
 
No bro mse also affect lips, zygos and nasal base significantly
Msdo affects chin width significantly
Show a picture with psl difference before and after.
U just as dumb as all else not being able to understand a scientific paper

U waisting air every min
End it
Show a picture with psl difference before and after.

Ead looked better before mse.

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No, newcel. MSE is great for mouth width, nasal bridge wider palate etc. (these are the most noticable changes)
 
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now thats what I like to call autism
 
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it widens mouth a little bit but it also widen the nose. so it's useless for harmony. it's useful only if you have really narrow palate which looks ugly tbh.
having average palate is quite okay.
 
lol at this stupid post
 
Love how we always have great posts, outlining the advantages and disadvantages with proven studies, and then there is always that one guy with a three word post: "ts all cope"
 
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Just prove the opposite, if you can.
it only makes sense mse improves ur appearance. widening the maxilla = prominent zygos, combine mse with fm, u get forward growth
 
" wider dental arch "
look at his back teeth his arch didnt even get that much wider
nearly all the expansion is palatal
 
Widens the nose (good or bad depending on the case, can fix if it's a problem)
Widens the mouth (good)
Widens the cheekbones and zygomatic arches (good)
Widens the palate (good)
Improves breathing (good for health, good for skin, good for sleep, good for longevity)

Idk tbh, seems like cope

or?

at least that's what the studies on it showed.
 
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Widens the nose (good or bad depending on the case, can fix if it's a problem)
Widens the mouth (good)
Widens the cheekbones and zygomatic arches (good)
Widens the palate (good)
Improves breathing (good for health, good for skin, good for sleep, good for longevity)

Idk tbh, seems like cope

or?

at least that's what the studies on it showed.
Widens the mandible
 
Widens the mandible

Don't think it does, only if you combine it with lower palatal expansion but this is an option with many MSE practitioners supposedly? widen both in tandem

new to MSE tbh
 
Don't think it does, only if you combine it with lower palatal expansion but this is an option with many MSE practitioners supposedly? widen both in tandem

new to MSE tbh
lower palatal expander actually doesnt bro. it just shifts the teeth. But even in a study with 19 year olds they showed that mandible gets expanded from MSE. Gonna buy mine in two days
 
lower palatal expander actually doesnt bro. it just shifts the teeth. But even in a study with 19 year olds they showed that mandible gets expanded from MSE. Gonna buy mine in two days

you're using it by yourself?

what will you do after the expansion happens?
 
you're using it by yourself?

what will you do after the expansion happens?
Been working on my stack for years. i take shitload of supplements for bone growth and hormones, now i need my face wider and open the palatal suture to make my bones grow more prominent.
 
Been working on my stack for years. i take shitload of supplements for bone growth and hormones, now i need my face wider and open the palatal suture to make my bones grow more prominent.

Wish I had access to this shit <25yo tbh

only just now being accessible for the most part unless giga tier IQ/autism and finding this shit first

Tbf though I found out about john mew in 2011 but there was no techniques on how to mew back then

how old are you?
 
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Wish I had access to this shit <25yo tbh

only just now being accessible for the most part unless giga tier IQ/autism and finding this shit first

Tbf though I found out about john mew in 2011 but there was no techniques on how to mew back then

how old are you?
18. a friend of my dads is an orthodontist tho so i can buy palatal expanders for like 250 bucks lol
 
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