[Method] The Ultimate Guide for Heightmaxxing (Corrections to Wincels Stack Included) (Closed Plate Oldcel Method Included)

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Okay guys, I am 5 feet 6.2 inches tall (measured at approximately noontime) and 16 years, 3 months old. I have grown only one inch in the last three years.

I have been using 25 mg Mk-677 daily and 1 mg anastrozole daily for the past one week. I'll update you guys on any changes by next week. I bought my stuff from https://science.bio/ and I think both the anastrozole and Mk-677 are bunk because I have experienced no sides until now.

I'm planning on starting 1 gram of testosterone per week around 7/15/19 and I'll buy letro and aromasin as well. I'm planning to buy off of https://steroidify.com/ and I'm planning to buy a testosterone blend (test prop, ethn, and cyp). I'll update you guys on the exact details of my purchases later and I'll tell you guys my experience using them.

The testosterone in itself will increase height velocity and growth hormone levels. Used in conjuction with an AI, it will increase final adult height. I'm going to be taking letrozole every day and I'll take a little extra on the first week just so that I can crash my estrogen to test whether it is fake or not. Once my letro comes to an end, I'll use aromasin to avoid the rebound. i'm probably gonna PCT by blasting HcG 6 weeks before I stop taking test, and I'll get off the HcG once the exogenous testosterone is out of my system.

In all honesty I don't really have it too bad because I have pretty good genetics when it comes to everything except my height, so I basically have chadlet potential. I'm a fatfuck though so I'm wasting that potential. I'm gonna play it safe by recomping my body using test, since I know that test is gonna give me muscle gains and increase my sexual dimorphism since I'm still in puberty. I'm honestly a bit skeptical about this whole height-increasing stack. But at the same time I don't wanna stunt my growth, so I'm using testosterone. I was considering oxandrolone because it has been shown to possibly increase height, but the research behind that is kind of ambivalent. Test plus AI has been shown to increase adult height, but I don't think it has been tested at 1 gram a week.

Anyways, I hope I grow at least an inch by December.
Tbh start injecting ASAP

Get on aromasin asap
 
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Preface:
Many members here are young and want to increase their height. And I have been asked by many about peptides.
I will attempt to write a comprehensive thread on what are my findings are so far.

Disclaimer:
This guide is completely experimental so I am not responsible for any thing that happens. I am going to attempt it myself nonetheless.
I also don't guarantee any results. DrTony wrote about the impossibility of augmenting height in men with no disorders. However, this thread is for any off chance of it happening. As increasing height with hyaline cartilage hypertrophy and

Introduction:
The guide will not get into technicalities and cite every study supporting our decisions, because there is not enough time. And the thread is already delayed as it is. I will try to make this thread as brief as possible.
Method 3 is for oldcels. Height augmentation would be from cartilage hypertrophy.

Method 1 (Correction to @Wincel stack):


The thread had a huge audience. However, there was some fundamental errors in wincel's method.

1. Niacin was incorrectly used for GH boost.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5360541/
In this article it is show that niacin must be take at 500mg every hour for 3 hours to have any effect on GH.
That much however, isn't feasible for the average person. So it will be removed.

2. The use of melatonin.
Melatonin was used as an AI. While it does block estrogen, it is not enough to be used as an AI for growth.
Melatonin is a good addition for sleep eitherways, so feel free to use it. Aromasin or arimidex will be used instead.

3. The absence of huperzine A.
Huperzine A is a somatostatin (HGH release inhibitor) inhibitor. That means it will allow us to get more HGH release from ibutamoren/mk677 due to the removal of HGH inhibitor somatostatin.

4. The addition of other supplements as temporary GH boosters.
L-dopa comes with many risks. And it is unknown if the spike by GABA is enough. So natural GH secretagogues will be dropped here.

The stack will then look like the following:
  1. Take mk677 25mg before bed (feel free to use melatonin or not)
  2. Aromasin 25mg every day. It can be reduced to 12.5mg every other day as well in case of harsh side effect.
  3. Huperzine A, Ideally 300mcg morning and 400mcg night every day. Minimum is 200mcg every night.
Method 2(@Madness systemic peptide stack):

This is a good method. Just needs an AI with it. Aromasin, arimidex, or letrozole will suffice.

Method 3 (My method)(Includes closed plates):
Here we will attempt to make the most hardcore stack.

A. Elevation of systemic levels(baseline) of HGH and IGF-1:

  1. 25mg of mk677 morning and 25mg mk677 night. Every day.
  2. CJC-1295 DAC subQ inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday (from madness)
B. Creating artificial peaks throughout the day:
  1. Hexarelin 100mcg 3x-4x daily for 2 weeks then GHRP-2 100mcg 3x-4x daily for 4 weeks then repeat back to hexarelin and so on.
  2. CJC no DAC 100mcg 3x-4x daily with hexarelin or GHRP2 from number 1.
Inject on an empty stomach (waking up or 3 hours after eating) and eat after 30 minutes.

C. IGF-1:
IGF-1 DES injected at the the deltoids (shoulder muscles) 40mcg each side every day for frame growth.

D. DNA methylation
Loss of DNA methylation will close your growth plates. This is what sets the limit to how you grow. So we need to increase it.
https://joe.bioscientifica.com/view/journals/joe/186/1/1860241.xml


SAM-e and MSM will be used to promote DNA methylation.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/76/5/1151S/4824259


SAM-e 1500mg every day.
MSM 1000mg every day.

E. Increasing growth plate proliferation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4286662/

Glucosamine 1500mg every day.
Chondroitin 1200mg every day.

Methods D and E work synergistically and increase the chances of growth.

F. Flurbiprofen
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3248202

Basically k2 mk4 on roids.


Dosage: Flubiprofen 200-300 mg/day divided through 6-12 hours (eg. take 150 morning and 150 night)
Make sure to consume good amounts of water with it.

G. Aromatase Inhibition
From my research I have noticed that.
  1. If you are going on a light HGH stack then arimidex or aromasin is best.
  2. If you are going on a stack with insane amounts of HGH then letrozole is the best.
I observed that from clinical trials and papers.
Madness and Wincels stack would need arimidex or aromasin.
My stack will need letrozole.
Any AI can be used, but for maximum results refer to the above.

Dosage:
Aromasin: choose from 12.5mg one day on one day off till 25mg everyday. (your choice)
Arimidex 1mg per day.
Letrozole: choose from 0.5 mg one day on one day off till 2.5mg daily. (I am taking 2.5mg daily)
Start from lowest dosages and increase till what you see fit.

H. Androgens
To promote masculine growth and dimorphism use:
DHT gel on penis or 11-KDHT drops on forearms.

I. Building blocks (optional)
Vitamin D 10kIU per day
Vitamin k2 mk4 45mg per day
Magnesium 400mg per day
Zinc 50mg per day
Calcium 2g per day
Boron 9mg per day

J. Insulin(experimental)(optional):
When insulin is combined with IGF-1, the results for muscle growth and bone mineral deposition is synergistic.
This addition however, risks hyperinsulemia if not done properly. I was stuck here in my research but decided to not allow this part to delay the making of this guide any further. If you would like to continue from this point then:

1. Check if the components above raise the systemic levels of TGFB3 enough. If it is not then you will have to look for other methods.
mk677 and GHRP-2 do raise this well.

2. Check if the components above have enough pi3k pathway agonism. If not then either settle for metformin or find a chemical that does this. IGF-1 and exercise do activate pi3k-Akt.

I would recommend you leave this part unless you are experimenting hard.

Method 4(classical):
7.5-10 IU HGH 2x a day
2.5mg letrozole daily
D and E from method 3

Conclusion:

To sum my own stack up in one place




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Metformin doesn't cause pi3k pathway activation. It doesn't even have an effect on pi3k. It only affects akt and it shuts down akt signalling through ampk activation rather than activating pi3k->akt as explained here. Eating food will cause pi3k, akt and mtor activation anyways, you don't need igf-1 to activate pi3k and igf-1 doesn't activate it anyway. It's activated by the cascading downstream effects of insulin after insulin receptor substrate activates pi3k, phosphorylating pip2 to pip3 and then recruiting pdk1 to activate akt. Metformin activates tsc2 which activates ampk, shutting off akt signaling. pdk1 inhibits tsc2 and that's how akt activation is signaled.
 
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One thing I do thank my parents for is motivating me to moneymaxxx from a young age, incase “there’s a global problem”, or in this case, if I’m incel. I have been saving up a lot of money in the past 3 years ever since I became a teenager. I’ve been doing lawn mowing and baby sitting all across my neighborhood, and thanks to that I now have 55,000 Mexican pesos (like 3 grand) in my piggy bank and have not even brushed against it for a long time now.

I’m 15 1/2
If I do all this for three months, do everything possible to maximize my growth, how tall will I become by the time I’m a fully grown adult?

Im 6’2” and wouldn’t mind being 7 foot. Not even kidding. I want to move to Netherlands when I grow up, so height is number 1 key priority.
 
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One thing I do thank my parents for is motivating me to moneymaxxx from a young age, incase “there’s a global problem”, or in this case, if I’m incel. I have been saving up a lot of money in the past 3 years ever since I became a teenager. I’ve been doing lawn mowing and baby sitting all across my neighborhood, and thanks to that I now have 55,000 Mexican pesos (like 3 grand) in my piggy bank and have not even brushed against it for a long time now.

I’m 15 1/2
If I do all this for three months, do everything possible to maximize my growth, how tall will I become by the time I’m a fully grown adult?

Im 6’2” and wouldn’t mind being 7 foot. Not even kidding. I want to move to Netherlands when I grow up, so height is number 1 key priority.
Lucky shit. I'm 15 and broke
 
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Metformin doesn't cause pi3k pathway activation. It doesn't even have an effect on pi3k. It only affects akt and it shuts down akt signalling through ampk activation rather than activating pi3k->akt as explained here. Eating food will cause pi3k, akt and mtor activation anyways, you don't need igf-1 to activate pi3k and igf-1 doesn't activate it anyway. It's activated by the cascading downstream effects of insulin after insulin receptor substrate activates pi3k, phosphorylating pip2 to pip3 and then recruiting pdk1 to activate akt. Metformin activates tsc2 which activates ampk, shutting off akt signaling. pdk1 inhibits tsc2 and that's how akt activation is signaled.
So nothing works other than eating?????
 
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If you want to activate pi3k/akt/mtor you just need your pancreas to secrete insulin, so eating will do the job.
I can inject insulin

If insulin is what makes u grow...

How much is needed?

Poor idea I know I’m kidding tbh
 
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I can inject insulin

If insulin is what makes u grow...

How much is needed?

Poor idea I know I’m kidding tbh
You just need to eat a tiny bit of food to activate these pathways lol. Like eating 1 slice of bread would do it instantly. Injecting insulin is very dangerous and not needed. This is why I always advised people to eat a lot during puberty to keep these pathways activated for as long as possible, activating them as frequently as possible. You can't really just boost your height. Most people finish pretty much all their growing at 15.
 
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You just need to eat a tiny bit of food to activate these pathways lol. Like eating 1 slice of bread would do it instantly. Injecting insulin is very dangerous and not needed. This is why I always advised people to eat a lot during puberty to keep these pathways activated for as long as possible, activating them as frequently as possible. You can't really just boost your height. Most people finish pretty much all their growing at 15.
make sure you get an IV drip with sugar at night

cant afford to go catabolic
 
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120,000 injections of cjc no dac per day should be the baseline. sugar IV drip included
Are you dead serious that untrustful of cjc and all

Are you entirely confident that injecting hgh won’t change a single thing???
 
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Are you dead serious that untrustful of cjc and all

Are you entirely confident that injecting hgh won’t change a single thing???
time to cancel your order buddyboyo

go for heroin instead
 
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Are you dead serious that untrustful of cjc and all

Are you entirely confident that injecting hgh won’t change a single thing???
It will change things, it's just very likely that it won't make you grow taller, and very unlikely that it will. I know heightmaxxers don't like hearing it, but it's true. It's completely abnormal to grow at any sort of proportionately greater rate after 15 than you grew between 12-15.
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It will change things, it's just very likely that it won't make you grow taller, and very unlikely that it will. I know heightmaxxers don't like hearing it, but it's true. It's completely abnormal to grow at any sort of proportionately greater rate after 15 than you grew between 12-15.
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didnt grow at all between 12 and my current age

where the fuck is my spike in growth?

the jews took it away with their estrogen in the water

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It will change things, it's just very likely that it won't make you grow taller, and very unlikely that it will. I know heightmaxxers don't like hearing it, but it's true. It's completely abnormal to grow at any sort of proportionately greater rate after 15 than you grew between 12-15.
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And a lot of people kind of misconstrue what HGH is and does which is understandable because they want to keep "height boosting" hopes alive. People interpret "Human Growth Hormone" as "Human Height Growth Hormone (This will just make you grow taller whalla)". But as we know, that's not the case.
didnt grow at all between 12 and my current age

where the fuck is my spike in growth?
How old are you now?
 
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It will change things, it's just very likely that it won't make you grow taller, and very unlikely that it will. I know heightmaxxers don't like hearing it, but it's true. It's completely abnormal to grow at any sort of proportionately greater rate after 15 than you grew between 12-15.
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if nba players do it then I will too
 
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anyone got a source for legit mk677 & CJC no DAC in the UK? bought mk from jwsupplements but im pretty sure it was bunk
 

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