[Method] The Ultimate Guide for Heightmaxxing (Corrections to Wincels Stack Included) (Closed Plate Oldcel Method Included)

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@Extra Chromosome

Is there any PCT to do or youre just supposed to blast and cruise ? Because that shit may fuck up the pituitary gland on the long term, right ?
It won't mess up with any thing. HGH is what needs to be slowly tapered off.
Can you PM it to me? Also I need to re-read your original post when I have higher mental bandwidth, then I’ll let you know which stack seems best for me. Probably the one for closedplatedcels.
Sure. Keep it underground tho.
 

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Based autistic scientist does it again, thanks for sharing. Not interested on height gain but this is interesting info regardless. Do you have any theories/stacks for forward growth or hollowing of the cheeks?
forward growth
have you ever seen bodybuilders that inject hgh? thats pretty much the only forward growth youll be able to get

hollowing of the cheeks
inject t and chew gum hard and grow your masseters. also learn correct swallowing (teeth closed, lips closed, create a vaccuum to put the saliva on top of your tongue then take it all the way back and sort of dump it into your throat. you'll figure it out)
 
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theories/stacks for forward growth or hollowing of the cheeks?
Losing body fat.
Eliminating bloat.

Then take HGH if you are growing (evidence for maxilla growth in papers)
then after finishing your HGH course, take DHT to get a very dry look.
 
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hey man popping in again to ask how long i should run mk + cjc dac cycle for. i'm thinking 6 months with 1 month break
That is good.
Make sure to use huperzine A 200mcg 3x a day to inhibit somatostatin and get more out of these GH secretagogues.
Oh, and keep your insulin in check. Use curcumin if needed for insulin sensitivity.
 
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That is good.
Make sure to use huperzine A 200mcg 3x a day to inhibit somatostatin and get more out of these GH secretagogues.
yeah that's the plan. i might not use ai because idc about height, and my shoulder plates will be open for 5 more years. i figure blasting this shit for 5 years will for sure be more than enough time.

also very well thought out guide. dunno if i mentioned that before, but truly good stuff for that last stack u made. if i don't see growth on my stack after a year then ill switch to urs. also in regards to OP, dr tony has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. disregard his opinion on GH, since there are several anecdotal accounts of bodybuilders who have had huge frame growth on just hgh, which pales in comparison to the stacks listed with the exception of wincels
 

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Shouldn't you blast CJC for more than 3 months per cycle?
Something something about the pituitary gland, I read it here on Looksmax so it must be true.
 

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hey man quik question but if money is a problem do you recommend to use mk677 and all of the others listed or just get hgh and 1-2 else cause the price
 
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yeah that's the plan. i might not use ai because idc about height, and my shoulder plates will be open for 5 more years. i figure blasting this shit for 5 years will for sure be more than enough time.

also very well thought out guide. dunno if i mentioned that before, but truly good stuff for that last stack u made. if i don't see growth on my stack after a year then ill switch to urs. also in regards to OP, dr tony has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. disregard his opinion on GH, since there are several anecdotal accounts of bodybuilders who have had huge frame growth on just hgh, which pales in comparison to the stacks listed with the exception of wincels
Thanks for the input. I am looking into what limits us from growth. The DNA methylation factor being a prime example of how little we understand physical growth. I may write a thread on what the limiters are and what can we do to overcome them.

Fun fact.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3900506/
E2 and FE2 concentrations were negatively associated with maximal grip strength (β : −0.08±0.04; p = 0.04 and β : −0.10±0.04; p = 0.007 respectively) and quadriceps force (β : −0.08±0.04; p = 0.02 and β : −0.11±0.04; p = 0.002 respectively), even after additional adjustment for T.
I am also considering running the classical method when I get the money. Better try multiple methods to make sure I didn't miss out the benefits of any stack. And so I recommend others.

As for DrTony, I haven't had a decent discussion with him in the DMs sadly. And I do believe that we can grow with the correct methods done before our plates have closed.
why does it cut off?
Thanks for pointing it out. I wanted to write " and chrondrocytal proliferation towards the epiphyseal line due to their simplistic, bruteforce-able nature".
Shouldn't you blast CJC for more than 3 months per cycle?
Something something about the pituitary gland, I read it here on Looksmax so it must be true.
Depends on which CJC type you are doing. But yes, you have to run both types for a few months to see any results.

Like the thread if it was informative boyos tbh ngl jfl.
hey man quik question but if money is a problem do you recommend to use mk677 and all of the others listed or just get hgh and 1-2 else cause the price
If you can afford arimidex or aromasin with then it should be g2g.

If you still have some greens left to spend then adding flurbiprofen and huperzine A is good.
 

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Amazing thread as always. I really wish you would've posted this sooner though, as I already have my full stack following @Madness's method.

With luck I'll be able to add more supplements to the stack in the future. What would you say to prioritize for closed plates? Mine are likely closed or very near to being closed.
 
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What would you say to prioritize for closed plates? Mine are likely closed or very near to being closed.
I assume you are on an AI like aromasin.
SAM-e, Glucosamine sulfate, MSM, chondroitin, and flurbiprofen.
Prioritize SAM-e then the other three then flurbiprofen. As flurbiprofen is potent for open platecels. The first 4 will help your plates close slower, or even increase your growth plates.
 

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I assume you are on an AI like aromasin.
SAM-e, Glucosamine sulfate, MSM, chondroitin, and flurbiprofen.
Prioritize SAM-e then the other three then flurbiprofen. As flurbiprofen is potent for open platecels. The first 4 will help your plates close slower, or even increase your growth plates.
My bad, I haven't been able to get Aromasin yet, but I was planning to. I have Melatonin for now, but I know it's not as good in comparison.
I assume Aromasin takes priority over everything else you mentioned, right?
 
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@Extra Chromosome any realistic expectations for cartilage expansion related height gain that can be gained for closedplatecels using your method?
I would say an inch (assuming your spine isnt small).
This is the oldcel method btw.
  1. 5000mcg CJC-1295 DAC subQ inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday
  2. Hexarelin 100mcg 3x-4x daily for 2 weeks then GHRP-2 100mcg 3x-4x daily for 4 weeks then repeat back to hexarelin and so on.
  3. CJC no DAC 100mcg 3x-4x daily with hexarelin or GHRP2 from number 1.Inject on an empty stomach (waking up or 3 hours after eating) and eat after 30 minutes.
  4. SAM-e 1500mg every day.
  5. MSM 1000mg every day.
  6. Glucosamine 1500mg every day.
  7. Chondroitin 1200mg every day.
Duration would be for several months.
Good luck!
Make sure to report back in this thread.
 
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Cool, will definitely report back any noteworthy results, appreciate you putting this together. Just curious- is this completely speculative at this point or do you have any data points of success for closedplatecels to date? Even an inch would have huge implications..
 
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Cool, will definitely report back any noteworthy results, appreciate you putting this together. Just curious- is this completely speculative at this point or do you have any data points of success for closedplatecels to date? Even an inch would have huge implications..
Thanks for your involvement.
I read about people gaining up to an inch on glucosamine sulphate only. There are reports of labor workers gaining height as well.
A study quoted in another article said that 0.5cm was gained from glucosamine on average, but taking into account women and very short men, the average gain should be way higher for average and above average males.

As for other components, they help the process of building cartilage as well (on their own or with glucosamine). As shown by many papers.

Of course, I just put the conclusion and wrote the thread, so there is speculation factor here.
 

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Reminder that most antiemetics will fuck up heightmaxxing

Diphenhydramine raises somatostatin and dopamine antagonists (Domperidone, Metoclopramide) raise Prolactin which inhibits GNRH, FSH and LH
 
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What if your plates aren’t really close to fusing anyway? How can they just suddenly fuse?
Letrozole will drop all the tanked estrogen at once. That is what they use on females who are growing too much as well.
Reminder that most antiemetics will fuck up heightmaxxing

Diphenhydramine raises somatostatin and dopamine antagonists (Domperidone, Metoclopramide) raise Prolactin which inhibits GNRH, FSH and LH
Thanks. Please post your findings here as well.
I will post compounds that affect height other than the ones mentioned as well.
 

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so I’m 16.5 and 5’8 trying to heightmaxx. My parents won’t let me get any of the things that you can’t buy from a drugstore/amazon so I’m pretty much limited to the SAM-e, MSM, glucosamine and chondroitin. My question is since I’m only 16.5 is it worth the money to get these now since I still have another year or two with open plates since they get expensive overtime and it seems their purpose is to keep plates open and expand the cartilage in your spine which should be achievable at any age. So do you recommend hopping on those 4 now or wait a little bit, currently doing intermittent fasting and sprints for the hgh. I might be able to get my hands on some melatonin, do you think it will have any noticeable affects if I take it verses not taking it? thanks alot
 
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so I’m 16.5 and 5’8 trying to heightmaxx. My parents won’t let me get any of the things that you can’t buy from a drugstore/amazon so I’m pretty much limited to the SAM-e, MSM, glucosamine and chondroitin. My question is since I’m only 16.5 is it worth the money to get these now since I still have another year or two with open plates since they get expensive overtime and it seems their purpose is to keep plates open and expand the cartilage in your spine which should be achievable at any age. So do you recommend hopping on those 4 now or wait a little bit, currently doing intermittent fasting and sprints for the hgh. I might be able to get my hands on some melatonin, do you think it will have any noticeable affects if I take it verses not taking it? thanks alot
Yes it is worth it. I would recommend trying to get an AI as well. Those should give you time till you are able to buy gh/peptides.
Melatonin is a nice addition, tho I can't guarantee its effectiveness.
 

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Wait, does this count for aromasin as well? Or only those two?Thanks.
theyre all aromatase inhibitors

idk what he means by your plates will fuse if you miss doses. maybe he thinks too much estrogen will be aromatised after you stop inhibiting the aromatase but ive never heard about stuff like that

could be true tbh
 

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theyre all aromatase inhibitors

idk what he means by your plates will fuse if you miss doses. maybe he thinks too much estrogen will be aromatised after you stop inhibiting the aromatase but ive never heard about stuff like that

could be true tbh
Yeah, Once you miss a few doses, your body gets a masive increase in the production of estrogen, and your plates fuse. It's like the body "saves" all the estrogen it doesn't produce while you take those pills, and once you stop taking them, your body starts overflowing with the "stored" estrogen. Never miss doses if you start taking them until you are fully heightmaxxxed
 

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Yeah, Once you miss a few doses, your body gets a masive increase in the production of estrogen, and your plates fuse. It's like the body "saves" all the estrogen it doesn't produce while you take those pills, and once you stop taking them, your body starts overflowing with the "stored" estrogen. Never miss doses if you start taking them until you are fully heightmaxxxed
Motherfucking backstabbing AIs
 
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Wait, does this count for aromasin as well? Or only those two?Thanks.
Aromasin is a suicidal AI. No estrogen rebound, aka you are safe on that one.
Letrozole and arimidex tank up your estrogen, and hence get released all at once when you stop them.
theyre all aromatase inhibitors

idk what he means by your plates will fuse if you miss doses. maybe he thinks too much estrogen will be aromatised after you stop inhibiting the aromatase but ive never heard about stuff like that

could be true tbh
Only for letro and arimidex
Yeah, Once you miss a few doses, your body gets a masive increase in the production of estrogen, and your plates fuse. It's like the body "saves" all the estrogen it doesn't produce while you take those pills, and once you stop taking them, your body starts overflowing with the "stored" estrogen. Never miss doses if you start taking them until you are fully heightmaxxxed
Refer up.
Motherfucking backstabbing AIs
refer up
 

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Yeah, Once you miss a few doses, your body gets a masive increase in the production of estrogen, and your plates fuse. It's like the body "saves" all the estrogen it doesn't produce while you take those pills, and once you stop taking them, your body starts overflowing with the "stored" estrogen. Never miss doses if you start taking them until you are fully heightmaxxxed
Well shit. I’ll make sure I have enough until I’m fully heightmaxxed.
Thanks anyways, I could’ve accidentally closed my plates without knowing if something interfered with my schedule.
Aromasin is a suicidal AI. No estrogen rebound, aka you are safe on that one.
Letrozole and arimidex tank up your estrogen, and hence get released all at once when you stop them.

Only for letro and arimidex
Well that’s good. So, I’ll keep using method 1 for now.
 
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why does it matter what it tastes like tho?
It fucking burns. Absolutely horrendous.
Got phobia of taking it rn. Mk677 can't hold a candle to swallowing pharma grade DMSO.

Moral of the story is to mix your letro powder with 50% DMSO and 50% vodka as jefferson said.
 
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I thought it fused last

Then how do u know all these drugs are helping if u dont kno if youre still growing?
By trying them and measuring afterwards.
Yes, it is a gamble.

But I am very positive with my methods that I will get 2 inches at least.
 

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By trying them and measuring afterwards.
Yes, it is a gamble.

But I am very positive with my methods that I will get 2 inches at least.
Well seems like a waste of shekels but if u say 2 inches then guess its better than nothing

Also, should I waste 40 euros on Phenibut from my total of 150 euros to cope? Figured I might as well since Idk how ill buy the roids for now
 
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Well seems like a waste of shekels but if u say 2 inches then guess its better than nothing

Also, should I waste 40 euros on Phenibut from my total of 150 euros to cope? Figured I might as well since Idk how ill buy the roids for now
No.
I regretted the shit supplements I bought. The money could be used to buy more peptides/roids/hgh etc...

Do you have western union?
peptidesciences does bank transferes as well.
 

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No.
I regretted the shit supplements I bought. The money could be used to buy more peptides/roids/hgh etc...

Do you have western union?
peptidesciences does bank transferes as well.
well obvs why would I have that? I think you can just walk in and ask though. I would have rather use paypal tbh but yeah definitely will

and its not a supplement nigguh, its feelgood
I ve been taking glucosamine+msm and doing inversion stretching for quite some time(like a year). Went from 177 to 179 midday height
copious amounts of cope
 
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and its not a supplement nigguh, its feelgood
lmfao if you think you can feel good sub 6'2"

Stimulants, benzos, ssris, etc. etc. didn't make me feel anything. Why? because I am sub6'2

Hop on peptides at least ASAP.
 

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