There really does seem to be a correlation between ramus and browridge size

[AutisticBeaner]

Despite that @Alibaba69's thread yesterday didn't seem too sensible to me, the study about browridge size correlating with ramus size and thus also being affected by chewing got me thinking. So I started comparing people's browridge with their ramus irl like the autistic beaner that I am and came to the conclusion that although this correlation is not a direct one, it does seem to exist.

The study (credit to @Alibaba69): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02447216

 

[Deleted member 3832]

Despite that @Alibaba69's thread yesterday didn't seem too sensible to me, the study about browridge size correlating with ramus size and thus also being affected by chewing got me thinking. So I started comparing people's browridge with their ramus irl like the autistic beaner that I am and came to the conclusion that although this correlation is not a direct one, it does seem to exist.

The study (credit to @Alibaba69): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02447216

no shit. Both your brow ridge and ramus size are based on the amount of T you have and the quantity and quality of your androgen receptors. Keep in mind people: high T means nothing if you don't have a lot of androgen receptors.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

no shit. Both your brow ridge and ramus size are based on the amount of T you have and the quantity and quality of your androgen receptors. Keep in mind people: high T means nothing if you don't have a lot of androgen receptors.

The study is specifically talking about the masseters, that's why I mentionned chewing.

 

[Deleted member 3832]

The study is specifically talking about the masseters, that's why I mentionned chewing.

yeah chewing also affects your ramus size. But it's mostly T based.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

yeah chewing also affects your ramus size. But it's mostly T based.

The supraorbital ridge formation in apes is a result of the traction of the masticatory force exerted by the anterior part of the temporalis muscle.

Do you understand this sentence?

 

[Deleted member 3832]

Do you understand this sentence?

I do. It means that the supraorbital ridges of apes is created by chewing because chewing makes their temporalis muscles push the ridges forward. But I'm talking about ramus size being mostly genetic. Yes, you can increase your brow ridge and ramus by chewing, but not a lot. It's true that chewing increases both these things because after like 1.5 years of chewing Falim gum my ramus has increased in size and my brow ridge felt like it was more projected. But even a few millimeters of bone projection is important tbh.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

I do. It means that the supraorbital ridges of apes is created by chewing because chewing makes their temporalis muscles push the ridges forward. But I'm talking about ramus size being mostly genetic. Yes, you can increase your brow ridge and ramus by chewing, but not a lot. It's true that chewing increases both these things because after like 1.5 years of chewing Falim gum my ramus has increased in size and my brow ridge felt like it was more projected. But even a few millimeters of bone projection is important tbh.

How often do you chew then? I've been doing it daily for about 4-5 months and my ramus has changed completely. But of course, I could tell you whatever I want so that's no proof. There are studies out there on this topic that might consider how big of a factor chewing actually is but I can't be bothered to look them up.

 

[Deleted member 3832]

How often do you chew then? I've been doing it daily for about 4-5 months and my ramus has changed completely. But of course, I could tell you whatever I want so that's no proof. There are studies out there on this topic that might consider how big of a factor chewing actually is but I can't be bothered to look them up.

like really often. My jaw muscles used to be weak but now they are strong because of constant chewing. Also for the majority of my time I chewed on soft gum which didn't help me at all. It was like 3-4 months ago when I found out about Falim (it's cheap Turkish gum that's pretty though and it has no sugar in it whatsoever). I used to chew that Falim gum for like 1-2 hours and then spat it out. To be honest I made much more progress with the tough gum instead of the soft gum. I'm going to continue chewing because I'm in a growing stage.

 

[Eduardo DOV]

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[Alibaba69]

Despite that @Alibaba69's thread yesterday didn't seem too sensible to me, the study about browridge size correlating with ramus size and thus also being affected by chewing got me thinking. So I started comparing people's browridge with their ramus irl like the autistic beaner that I am and came to the conclusion that although this correlation is not a direct one, it does seem to exist.

The study (credit to @Alibaba69): https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02447216

I am not the only one who believes chewing (teeth placement&pressure) has a HUGE impact on everything on your face.
Read this: https://looksmax.org/threads/breaking-theory-on-facial-development.61570/

no shit. Both your brow ridge and ramus size are based on the amount of T you have and the quantity and quality of your androgen receptors. Keep in mind people: high T means nothing if you don't have a lot of androgen receptors.

This is not completely true. A lot of it has to do with forceful mastication https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-40463-3

no shit. Both your brow ridge and ramus size are based on the amount of T you have and the quantity and quality of your androgen receptors. Keep in mind people: high T means nothing if you don't have a lot of androgen receptors.

This is not completely true. A lot of it has to do with forceful mastication https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-40463-3

 

[Deleted member 3832]

I am not the only one who believes chewing (teeth placement&pressure) has a HUGE impact on everything on your face.
Read this: https://looksmax.org/threads/breaking-theory-on-facial-development.61570/

This is not completely true. A lot of it has to do with forceful mastication https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-40463-3

This is not completely true. A lot of it has to do with forceful mastication https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-40463-3

Yeah, it has somewhat to do with forceful mastication. But most of it has to with your testosterone and genes. Can you explain me why kids at my school who have weak, fatty jawlines somehow have tall ramuses and projected brow bones? Trust me, they don't even chew a lot like us. Some of them even have crooked teeth and they're mouthbreathers with recessed chins yet their ramus is still tall despite not being very noticeable because of their bad habits.

 

[Alibaba69]

Yeah, it has somewhat to do with forceful mastication. But most of it has to with your testosterone and genes. Can you explain me why kids at my school who have weak, fatty jawlines somehow have tall ramuses and projected brow bones? Trust me, they don't even chew a lot like us. Some of them even have crooked teeth and they're mouthbreathers with recessed chins yet their ramus is still tall despite not being very noticeable because of their bad habits.

There are many factors, genes/prenatal only play 1/3rd. The other 2/3 is environmental. Did you mew/teeth posture, did you eat enough high protein food to develop big dense bones as a whole. Were you born underweight and predisposed to a lackluster frame and skull? Different races have different head/aw shapes. What you chew/teeth posture is a HUGE deal. Cavemen never had overbite/ teeth issues like we do now and almost all cavemen had excellent jaws.

See: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...top-eating-ready-meals-chew-like-caveman.html