Thoughts on bollards?

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Many people here seem to consider MSE to be a cope but we are yet to know the effect of bollards and other protraction methods. Most MSE cases you see either used no protraction device or they used the clockwise rotating default facemask. This is for example the result of SARPE+Bollards, a simple protraction can do miracles but rarely anyone does it.The results seem quite promising tbh

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Bollards basically are miniplates are a protraction device which have to be surgically installed and are superior to a facemask:

Traction dtour
 
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Remove the Karen pics and I’ll read
 
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what did it do her
except for uee decrease which makes no sense
prolly from something else
not bollards
 
what did it do her
except for uee decrease which makes no sense
prolly from something else
not bollards
Nope they were from using bollards.The changes are quite dramatic imo
 
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Yea prolly the most legit shit that's out there
holy shit i thought it was used strictly for 12 year olds. may i get link to the study?
 
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holy shit i thought it was used strictly for 12 year olds. may i get link to the study?
Don't remember the source but here's something to prove its efficacy

 
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(mean age, 12.0 ± 1.2 years; range, 8.7-14.8 years)

The success rate was 92.5%
Like I said we don't know much about this.Its still in the preliminary stages.But that result that I posted in OP was from SARPE+Bollards
 
I think this could be new way of installing facemask
Allows you more force with pulling (not just 4 screws like on mse), and you can pull at whatever angle you like - mse only allows you to pull at straightforward or down, not ideal

also retard made a thread some time ago how FM + mse dosent really work
 
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sadly there isn’t enough force that can be used without destabilizing the implants for adults, after about age 15 it’s no longer effective
 
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I'd like to see where this goes and if one could just request the installation of plates alone to pull from.
 
Why are they not using longer screws with the minilates? Wouldn't that give the opportunity to apply more force without destabilizing the miniplates
 
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Literally no changes G. Other than the bite
 

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