Ancient Egyptians depicted themselves like East Africans

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STALIN Wrote:
egyptians were neither black nor white
they were a distict ancient race and probably predecesor to the coptic and semetic people
except for the ptolemies after alexander
and inb4 "we wuz kangz" adolf hipster shows up; STFU


Adolf Hipster wrote:
Yes Ancient Egyptians were black or at least looked like modern day Northeastafricans.
They depicted middle eastern Hyskos and Lybian people with hooked beak noses, beards and light skin just like modern day
sand niggers while they depicted themselves with dark brown skin, slim straight noses and beardless similiarly to modern day
Ethiopians, Northsudanese or Eritreans while they depicted Nubians like modern day Southsudanese Nilotic people.

Just look at these depictions from the Beni Hassan Tomb of Hyksos
oliveskinned bearded hook nosed sand niggers next to dark brown
Egyptians:
1


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3


Reconstruction, notice how Egyptians got depicted darker then the bearded sand niggers:

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Close comparison between Egyptian and Middle eastern face:
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Battle of Megiddo:
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Race in depicted by Egyptians
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Adolf Hipster wrote:
its funny how stfcels cant get over these obvious depictions and even more 'moderate' anti we wuz kangz subhumans will claim
that ancient egyptians looked like levantines even though egyptians clearly depicted themselves with darker skin, beardless
and no typical hooked beak sand nigger noses like modern day semites.
This is so fucking self evident when just looking at how they depicted themselves.
Egyptians depicted themselves clearly with slim straight noses, curly,
wavy hair texture and dark skin just like modern day

Northeastafrican tribes like the Beja or Afar:

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Meanwhile Nubians got depicted like Sudanese tribal
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Nefrtit looked like a Ethiopian or Somalian:
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Trevor Philips Wrote:
Meanwhile, this tall Caucasoid is depicted with European skin tone and physiognomy killing Niggers.

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Adolf hipster wrote:
A tall
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Dick washers?
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Fake:
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Red hair and Egyptian features?
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Trevor Philips Wrote:
You dumbass partial Kike, their hair doesn't match that mummy. Red silky hair = European.

Move to Sub-Sahara since you love Niggers so much. Not replying to this subordinate non-sense! Also, it's McCartney not
"McCarthy", but I'm sure you can't read too well.

Adolf Hipster wrote:

Red hair is a chemical result of mummification
process you dumb subhuman cumskin turd


Quote:
Whilst certain environments such as those producing bog bodies are known to yield hair
of a red-brown color, in part because of the breakdown of organic matter and presence of
humic acids which impart a brown color to recovered remains, it has commonly been
assumed that this happens to all archaeological hair. This concept has been perpetuated
by popular nicknames such as "Ginger"--affectionately given to the Predynastic burial
with red hair on display in the mummy rooms at the British Museum.
Potential change to hair color can be explained more scientifically by examining the chemistry of melanin which is
responsible for hair color in life. All hair contains a mixture in varying concentration of both black-
brown eumelanin and red-yellow phaeomelanin pigments, which are susceptible to
differential chemical change under certain extreme burial conditions (for example wet
reducing conditions, or dry oxidising conditions). Importantly, phaeomelanin is much
more stable to environmental conditions than eumelanin, hence the reactions
occurring in the burial environment favor the preservation of
phaeomelanin, revealing and enhancing the red/ yellow color of
hairs containing this pigment. Color changes occur slowly under
dry oxidising conditions, such as in the burials in sand at
Hierakonpolis. Whether the conditions within the wood and plaster coffin contributed to accelerated color
change, or whether this individual naturally had more phaeomelanin pigmentation in his hair is hard to say without further
analysis.

Furthermore modern day east Africans dyed their with Hena for thousands of years.
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King Tut European? @tyronelite

Adolf Hipster wrote:

THERE IS ZERO PROOF THAT KING TUT BELONGED
TO THE EUROPEAN R1B YDNA
IF SO POST THE STUDY! IN FACT IT DOESNT EXIST
SINCE IT IS A WELL KNOWN HOAX
This was not confirmed by ANY SCIENCE INSTITUTE.

Quote:
A personal genomics company in Switzerland says they've reconstructed a DNA profile of King Tutankhamen by watching
the Discovery Channel, claiming the results suggest more than half of Western European men are related to the boy king.
But researchers who worked to decode Tut's
genome in the first place say the claim is
"unscientific."
Swiss genomics company iGENEA has launched a Tutankhamen DNA project based on what they say are genetic markers
that appeared on a computer screen during a Discovery Channel special on the famous pharaoh's genetic lineage.
"Maybe they didn't know what they showed, but we got 16 markers from the Y chromosome from these pharaohs," Roman
Scholz, the managing director of iGENEA, told LiveScience.
If the claims were true, it would put King Tut in a genetic profile group shared by more than half of Western European men.
That would make those men relatives — albeit distant ones — of the pharaoh.
But Carsten Pusch, a geneticist at Germany's
University of Tubingen who was part of the team
that unravelled Tut's DNA from samples taken

from his mummy and mummies of his family
members, said that IGENEA's claims are "simply
impossible."
Pusch and his colleagues published part of their results, though not the Y-chromosome
DNA, in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in 2010. The Y chromosome is the sex chromosome found
only in males, and looking at the genes in this chromosome would show Tut's male lineage.
Pusch's team used snippets of Y-chromosome DNA to link Tut to his closest relatives, identifying his mom and dad. But they
didn't publish the full genetic data that would allow genomics companies like IGENEA to link modern people to the
Tutankhamen lineage. According to Scholz, that crucial data is what appeared on the Discovery Channel.
"Dr. Albert Zink from the EURAC (European Academy of Bolzano, an independent research center] in Bolzano and co-author
of the 2010 JAMA publication screened the footage and confirmed that the company acts very unscientific," Pusch wrote in
an email to LiveScience. "The Swiss company did not try to get into contact with us prior to launching their new Internet
page."

The alleged Discovery Channel markers put Tut in a genetic profile group, or haplogroup, that also includes more than half
of the men in Western Europe. Scholz said the company is now searching for the closest living relatives of Tutankhamen,
men who share all 16 genetic markers on the pharaoh's supposed Y chromosome. Exact matches get a refund for their
$179 to $399 test and will also get free additional DNA analysis.
The haplogroup R1b1a2, which IGENEA claims includes King Tut, arose 9,500 years ago in the Black Sea region. How Tut's
ancestors would have gotten from that region to Egypt is unknown, but Scholz said IGENEA hopes to learn more by
collecting more close and exact matches from modern people of Western European descent.
"The better the match, the more recent the common ancestor," Scholz said.
But people hoping to prove that they've got an ancestor in common with the notoriously sickly boy king should take
IGENEA's claims with a grain salt, Pusch said: "It appears that they try to better sell their DNA testing kit by using the
media attention connected to King Tut."
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How come Africa sucks now argurment:

Heterosexual Male Wrote:

I really don't care either way about who owns what history but just wanted to say the "How come Africans suck now"
argument isn't really a good one for why Egypt couldn't be black. Empires rise and fall and sometimes never recover. One
day America will fall. If you need an example look at Greece. They went from birthing....literally everything great in Europe
to now....well doing nothing but being sexy and banging british sloots on beaches.

DatzNotMe Wrote:


this.
but sfcels are literally fuming and crying at the thought of Egyptians not being white.
that being said daily reminder that actual white people were barbarians, the creators of civilisation were pretty much all olive
skinned people on average (not that I think this is a good thing, to an extent theres lots of benefits in anprim. imo native
Americans were the most ascended beings to ever live) from north africa to south asia.
Kind of ironic/shits come full circle now that olive skinned Mediterranean's are seen as the most beautiful people

Coping BBC wrote:

Even with the overwhelming pictorial evidence that Egyptians were Cushitic North East Africans. Even with the
many black tribes today (Afar and Beja specifically) who still look like and have a similar culture to ancient Egyptians.
Stormcucks and delusional Euro centrists will still deny the obvious truth. Great work as always man.

nay sayers:

Oh Jesus this guy is retard he tries to prove that Egyptians were black buy putting black people images next to ancient
Egyptians wall paintings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spea... 1fe8f47254
Quote:
Ancient Egyptians were closely related to people who lived along the eastern Mediterranean, the
analysis showed. They also shared genetic material with residents of the Turkish peninsula at the
time and Europe.
Quote:
"we didn't find much sub-Saharan African ancestry."
Quote:
"In the last 1,500 years, Egypt became more African, if you want,"

Adolf hipster wrote:
The Abusir study which you quoted from the Washington post article
but obviously didn't read, does not debunk anything I said in OP,
quite the opposite
They all had sub-Saharan admixture in the study. Around 10%
east African admixture, you obviously did not even read the study:

Quote:

Finally, we used two methods to estimate the fractions of sub-Saharan African ancestry in ancient and modern
Egyptians. Both qpAdm35 and the f4-ratio test39 reveal that modern Egyptians inherit 8% more ancestry from
African ancestors than the three ancient Egyptians do, which is also consistent with the ADMIXTURE results
discussed above. Absolute estimates of African ancestry
using these two methods in the three ancient individuals range from 6 to 15%, and in the
modern samples from 14 to 21% depending on
method and choice of reference populations

Furthermore these Abusir samples are not even representative of
ancient Egypt but from an lower Egyptian site which received a shit
ton of middle eastern influence since centuries. Quote from the
study:

Quote: Wrote:
However we note that all our genetic data were
obtained from a single site in Middle Egypt and
may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt.
It is possible that populations in the south of
Egypt were more closely related to those of Nubia
and had a higher sub-Saharan genetic
component, in which case the argument for an
influx of sub-Saharan ancestries after the Roman
Period might only be partially valid and have to
be nuanced.



Adolf hipster wrote:

It would be like testing three skeletons found at the periphery of the roman empire in England and conclude that the ancient
Romans were Anglo Saxon Nordic cucks.

Yet these heavily middle eastern influenced mummies still score 10%
east African admixture. Now just imagine how much upper Egyptian
mummies from the centre of Egypt will score. Most likely in the 20 to 40%
east African admixture.

Abusir Al Malaq is a site located in northern Egypt and has been
known for being a strongly Levantine influenced site being ruled for
centuries by the sand nigger Hyksos. So obviously these Northern
abusir samples will be less SSA:

Karkamesh

Might be spelling mistakes here and there, I got this straight from a image to text. If you want the original convo dm me as I have the screenshots.

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Furthermore, Naquada culture and the following early dynastic period which marked the beginning of ancient
egyptian civilization, were located more southern close to Northsudan and only samples from these sites and from
their time frame will tell us about the actual genetic background of the founders of Ancient Egypt. And all evidences so
far point to the probablity that these samples will have twice if not three times the amount of SSA admixture than the
abusir samples:
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Ramses III has been found to belong to the
westafrican e1b1a haplogroup.

No cope will help you: https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio..etic_study

Genetic kinship analyses revealed identical haplotypes in both
mummies (table 1); using the Whit Athey's haplogroup
predictor, we determined the Y chromosomal haplogroup Elbla.
The testing of polymorphic autosomal microsatellite loci
provided similar results in at least one allele of each marker
(table 211). Although the mummy of Ramesses III's wife Tiy
was not available for testing, the identical Y chromosomal DNA
and autosomal half allele sharing of the two male mummies
strongly suggest a father-son relationship

E1B1A Distribution
369px-E1b1a.png


Cko Wrote:
Nonsense they were Copts you fucking faggot.

Adolt Hipster wrote:
Copts=10 to 20 % eastafrican admixture the rest Natufian with minor
westafrican
Beja/modern day Nubians= 30 to 45% eastafrican admixture the rest
Natufian with minor westafrican
Ethiopians/Eritreans=40 to 50% eastafrican admixture the rest
Natufian
Somalis=50 to 55% eastafrican admixture the rest Natufian
Not much of a difference you dumb subhuman
Point is, that ancient Egyptians looked like modern day
northeastafricans and dpeicted themselves as such. Ranging from
Coptic to Habesha looking and not like hook nosed oliveskinned sand
niggers from the Levante. The pictures in OP are proof enough.



Brutus Wrote:
The middle easterners depicted are ugly, inbred jews. Not really a good comparison for the average arab

Adolf Hipster wrote:

there is literally zero proof that the Hebrew tribe was ever in Egypt or enslaved by Egyptians. Even the money grabbing kikes,
who love to portray themselves as the eternal victims, admit it:


Quote:
The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt.
Yes, there's the story contained within the bible itself, but that's not a remotely historically
admissible source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological evidence, state records and
primary sources. Of these, nothing exists.

The sand niggers depicted in OP are just random Levantine semitic tribes.

TheA_rab wrote:
Egyptians were not White Europeans....that's all you need to know.
They were native North Africans...who themselves were originally from East Africa.

If you take an ancient Egyptian and put him in current modern day Europe or America...people would classify him as an ethnic, a
nigger, or a sand nigger.

greatest human civilisation is not white, but.. Genetics and linguistics are hard to
Crackers hate the fact that the one
disapprove.
The Sfcell crackers need to understand something:

Without The Egyptians civilisation, Greece would have not been Greece..and Europe would not have been like it became later.
Source:
 

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STALIN Wrote:
egyptians were neither black nor white
they were a distict ancient race and probably predecesor to the coptic and semetic people
except for the ptolemies after alexander
and inb4 "we wuz kangz" adolf hipster shows up; STFU


Adolf Hipster wrote:
Yes Ancient Egyptians were black or at least looked like modern day Northeastafricans.
They depicted middle eastern Hyskos and Lybian people with hooked beak noses, beards and light skin just like modern day
sand niggers while they depicted themselves with dark brown skin, slim straight noses and beardless similiarly to modern day
Ethiopians, Northsudanese or Eritreans while they depicted Nubians like modern day Southsudanese Nilotic people.

Just look at these depictions from the Beni Hassan Tomb of Hyksos
oliveskinned bearded hook nosed sand niggers next to dark brown
Egyptians:
View attachment 904781

View attachment 904785

View attachment 904790

Reconstruction, notice how Egyptians got depicted darker then the bearded sand niggers:

View attachment 904796

Close comparison between Egyptian and Middle eastern face:
View attachment 904805

Battle of Megiddo:
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Race in depicted by Egyptians
View attachment 904819
View attachment 904823

Adolf Hipster wrote:
its funny how stfcels cant get over these obvious depictions and even more 'moderate' anti we wuz kangz subhumans will claim
that ancient egyptians looked like levantines even though egyptians clearly depicted themselves with darker skin, beardless
and no typical hooked beak sand nigger noses like modern day semites.
This is so fucking self evident when just looking at how they depicted themselves.
Egyptians depicted themselves clearly with slim straight noses, curly,
wavy hair texture and dark skin just like modern day

Northeastafrican tribes like the Beja or Afar:

View attachment 904829
2019-07-13-158-png.904832

Meanwhile Nubians got depicted like Sudanese tribal
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Nefrtit looked like a Ethiopian or Somalian:
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Trevor Philips Wrote:
Meanwhile, this tall Caucasoid is depicted with European skin tone and physiognomy killing Niggers.

View attachment 904874

Adolf hipster wrote:
A tall
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Dick washers?
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Fake:
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Red hair and Egyptian features?
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Trevor Philips Wrote:
You dumbass partial Kike, their hair doesn't match that mummy. Red silky hair = European.

Move to Sub-Sahara since you love Niggers so much. Not replying to this subordinate non-sense! Also, it's McCartney not
"McCarthy", but I'm sure you can't read too well.

Adolf Hipster wrote:

Red hair is a chemical result of mummification
process you dumb subhuman cumskin turd


Quote:
Whilst certain environments such as those producing bog bodies are known to yield hair
of a red-brown color, in part because of the breakdown of organic matter and presence of
humic acids which impart a brown color to recovered remains, it has commonly been
assumed that this happens to all archaeological hair. This concept has been perpetuated
by popular nicknames such as "Ginger"--affectionately given to the Predynastic burial
with red hair on display in the mummy rooms at the British Museum.
Potential change to hair color can be explained more scientifically by examining the chemistry of melanin which is
responsible for hair color in life. All hair contains a mixture in varying concentration of both black-
brown eumelanin and red-yellow phaeomelanin pigments, which are susceptible to
differential chemical change under certain extreme burial conditions (for example wet
reducing conditions, or dry oxidising conditions). Importantly, phaeomelanin is much
more stable to environmental conditions than eumelanin, hence the reactions
occurring in the burial environment favor the preservation of
phaeomelanin, revealing and enhancing the red/ yellow color of
hairs containing this pigment. Color changes occur slowly under
dry oxidising conditions, such as in the burials in sand at
Hierakonpolis. Whether the conditions within the wood and plaster coffin contributed to accelerated color
change, or whether this individual naturally had more phaeomelanin pigmentation in his hair is hard to say without further
analysis.

Furthermore modern day east Africans dyed their with Hena for thousands of years.
View attachment 904920

King Tut European? @tyronelite

Adolf Hipster wrote:

THERE IS ZERO PROOF THAT KING TUT BELONGED
TO THE EUROPEAN R1B YDNA
IF SO POST THE STUDY! IN FACT IT DOESNT EXIST
SINCE IT IS A WELL KNOWN HOAX
This was not confirmed by ANY SCIENCE INSTITUTE.

Quote:
A personal genomics company in Switzerland says they've reconstructed a DNA profile of King Tutankhamen by watching
the Discovery Channel, claiming the results suggest more than half of Western European men are related to the boy king.
But researchers who worked to decode Tut's
genome in the first place say the claim is
"unscientific."
Swiss genomics company iGENEA has launched a Tutankhamen DNA project based on what they say are genetic markers
that appeared on a computer screen during a Discovery Channel special on the famous pharaoh's genetic lineage.
"Maybe they didn't know what they showed, but we got 16 markers from the Y chromosome from these pharaohs," Roman
Scholz, the managing director of iGENEA, told LiveScience.
If the claims were true, it would put King Tut in a genetic profile group shared by more than half of Western European men.
That would make those men relatives — albeit distant ones — of the pharaoh.
But Carsten Pusch, a geneticist at Germany's
University of Tubingen who was part of the team
that unravelled Tut's DNA from samples taken

from his mummy and mummies of his family
members, said that IGENEA's claims are "simply
impossible."
Pusch and his colleagues published part of their results, though not the Y-chromosome
DNA, in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in 2010. The Y chromosome is the sex chromosome found
only in males, and looking at the genes in this chromosome would show Tut's male lineage.
Pusch's team used snippets of Y-chromosome DNA to link Tut to his closest relatives, identifying his mom and dad. But they
didn't publish the full genetic data that would allow genomics companies like IGENEA to link modern people to the
Tutankhamen lineage. According to Scholz, that crucial data is what appeared on the Discovery Channel.
"Dr. Albert Zink from the EURAC (European Academy of Bolzano, an independent research center] in Bolzano and co-author
of the 2010 JAMA publication screened the footage and confirmed that the company acts very unscientific," Pusch wrote in
an email to LiveScience. "The Swiss company did not try to get into contact with us prior to launching their new Internet
page."

The alleged Discovery Channel markers put Tut in a genetic profile group, or haplogroup, that also includes more than half
of the men in Western Europe. Scholz said the company is now searching for the closest living relatives of Tutankhamen,
men who share all 16 genetic markers on the pharaoh's supposed Y chromosome. Exact matches get a refund for their
$179 to $399 test and will also get free additional DNA analysis.
The haplogroup R1b1a2, which IGENEA claims includes King Tut, arose 9,500 years ago in the Black Sea region. How Tut's
ancestors would have gotten from that region to Egypt is unknown, but Scholz said IGENEA hopes to learn more by
collecting more close and exact matches from modern people of Western European descent.
"The better the match, the more recent the common ancestor," Scholz said.
But people hoping to prove that they've got an ancestor in common with the notoriously sickly boy king should take
IGENEA's claims with a grain salt, Pusch said: "It appears that they try to better sell their DNA testing kit by using the
media attention connected to King Tut."
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How come Africa sucks now argurment:

Heterosexual Male Wrote:

I really don't care either way about who owns what history but just wanted to say the "How come Africans suck now"
argument isn't really a good one for why Egypt couldn't be black. Empires rise and fall and sometimes never recover. One
day America will fall. If you need an example look at Greece. They went from birthing....literally everything great in Europe
to now....well doing nothing but being sexy and banging british sloots on beaches.

DatzNotMe Wrote:


this.
but sfcels are literally fuming and crying at the thought of Egyptians not being white.
that being said daily reminder that actual white people were barbarians, the creators of civilisation were pretty much all olive
skinned people on average (not that I think this is a good thing, to an extent theres lots of benefits in anprim. imo native
Americans were the most ascended beings to ever live) from north africa to south asia.
Kind of ironic/shits come full circle now that olive skinned Mediterranean's are seen as the most beautiful people

Coping BBC wrote:

Even with the overwhelming pictorial evidence that Egyptians were Cushitic North East Africans. Even with the
many black tribes today (Afar and Beja specifically) who still look like and have a similar culture to ancient Egyptians.
Stormcucks and delusional Euro centrists will still deny the obvious truth. Great work as always man.

nay sayers:

Oh Jesus this guy is retard he tries to prove that Egyptians were black buy putting black people images next to ancient
Egyptians wall paintings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spea... 1fe8f47254
Quote:
Ancient Egyptians were closely related to people who lived along the eastern Mediterranean, the
analysis showed. They also shared genetic material with residents of the Turkish peninsula at the
time and Europe.
Quote:
"we didn't find much sub-Saharan African ancestry."
Quote:
"In the last 1,500 years, Egypt became more African, if you want,"

Adolf hipster wrote:
The Abusir study which you quoted from the Washington post article
but obviously didn't read, does not debunk anything I said in OP,
quite the opposite
They all had sub-Saharan admixture in the study. Around 10%
east African admixture, you obviously did not even read the study:

Quote:

Finally, we used two methods to estimate the fractions of sub-Saharan African ancestry in ancient and modern
Egyptians. Both qpAdm35 and the f4-ratio test39 reveal that modern Egyptians inherit 8% more ancestry from
African ancestors than the three ancient Egyptians do, which is also consistent with the ADMIXTURE results
discussed above. Absolute estimates of African ancestry
using these two methods in the three ancient individuals range from 6 to 15%, and in the
modern samples from 14 to 21% depending on
method and choice of reference populations

Furthermore these Abusir samples are not even representative of
ancient Egypt but from an lower Egyptian site which received a shit
ton of middle eastern influence since centuries. Quote from the
study:

Quote: Wrote:
However we note that all our genetic data were
obtained from a single site in Middle Egypt and
may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt.
It is possible that populations in the south of
Egypt were more closely related to those of Nubia
and had a higher sub-Saharan genetic
component, in which case the argument for an
influx of sub-Saharan ancestries after the Roman
Period might only be partially valid and have to
be nuanced.



Adolf hipster wrote:

It would be like testing three skeletons found at the periphery of the roman empire in England and conclude that the ancient
Romans were Anglo Saxon Nordic cucks.

Yet these heavily middle eastern influenced mummies still score 10%
east African admixture. Now just imagine how much upper Egyptian
mummies from the centre of Egypt will score. Most likely in the 20 to 40%
east African admixture.

Abusir Al Malaq is a site located in northern Egypt and has been
known for being a strongly Levantine influenced site being ruled for
centuries by the sand nigger Hyksos. So obviously these Northern
abusir samples will be less SSA:

Karkamesh

Might be spelling mistakes here and there, I got this straight from a image to text. If you want the original convo dm me as I have the screenshots.

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Ancient Egyptians weren't East Africans. They were a North African Afro-Asiatic speaking people, They had there own culture, religions, civilization, etc. Why do random faggots all over the world claim the Ancient Egyptians lmfao, even if they aren't genetically related to them? The closest living modern people today who lare genetically related to the Ancient Egyptians are Coptic Egyptian Chrstians today. They have also managed to preserve one of the last surviving Ancient Egyptian languages: Coptic.
 
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MFW spent time recreating thread that no ones gonna read

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I'm only 18% East African btw
 
The closest living modern people today who lare genetically related to the Ancient Egyptians are Coptic Egyptian Chrstians today.
complete bullshit

closest modern people are probably north sudanese/horner people
 
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complete bullshit

closest modern people are probably north sudanese/horner people
regardless west african americans mixed with white masters claiming to be egyptians is like nord larpers acting like they were romans
 
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great read

also, there is a ton of data on skeletons/skull remains from ancient egypt, they are often closest in morphology to indigenous tropically adapted africans
 
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Not a single word
The images and drawings found on pyramids weren't supposed to be super clear or realistic
they had different standards when they painted such things
 
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regardless west african americans mixed with white masters claiming to be egyptians is like nord larpers acting like they were romans
thats why i said north sudanese/horners
 
Ancient Egyptians weren't East Africans. They were a North African Afro-Asiatic speaking people, They had there own culture, religions, civilization, etc. Why do random faggots all over the world claim the Ancient Egyptians lmfao, even if they aren't genetically related to them? The closest living modern people today who lare genetically related to the Ancient Egyptians are Coptic Egyptian Chrstians today. They have also managed to preserve one of the last surviving Ancient Egyptian languages: Coptic.
I don’t think there was one group of Egyptians. weren’t they multicultural.
 
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Not a single word
The images and drawings found on pyramids weren't supposed to be super clear or realistic
they had different standards when they painted such things
Jfl cope. They painted white people too.
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I don’t think there was one group of Egyptians. weren’t they multicultural.
Yes, they were definately multicultural & heterogeneous, but the original Pre-Dynastic Egyptians are genetically closely related to the Coptic Egyptians of today.
 
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complete bullshit

closest modern people are probably north sudanese/horner people
Horners, African Americans, West Africans, Nordics, non-Mediterranean Europeans, & Arabs that claim the Ancient Egyptians need to stop embarrassing themselves. Genetic studies have confirmed that Ancient Egyptians are North African/Eurasian and are closely related to their fellow North Africans, the Amazigh. The Coptic people & other Modern Egyptians are the truest representation & the true descendants of Ancient Egyptians.

Plus, the name "Kemet" was in reference to the black soil of their land, not the people.

The only differences between Ancient & Modern Egyptians are:

1. Modern Egyptians, especially the Muslim ones carry some sub-Saharan African admixture, whereas their Coptic countrymen did not mix at all & retained the pure Egyptian blood. The Ancient Egyptians lacked any sub-Saharan African admixture, since it was forbidden to mix in their culture with the non-Copts.

2. Arabization, Helenization, & Romanization (language & culture) & other cultural influences from other cultures such as Greeks, Hyksos, Romans, Arabs, Turks, & Persians e.g have been absorbed into Egyptian culture via Islamic/Arab conquest, Roman, Greek, & Persian occupation.

Stop claiming Ancient Egypt if you aren't a Native born ethnic Egyptian.
 
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The race of ancient Egyptians was never a mystery until western people took over scholarship.We know who the ancient Egyptians were. They were the same race as Somalis. The word Afro-Asiatic means a language family that is in Africa and in Asia. Just like the Indo-European language family is found in Europe and in the Indian subcontinent. Everyone knows without doubt Indo-European languages come from Europe and Europeans were the original speakers. Why is this uncontroversial? Because most Indo-European languages are concentrated in Europe and not in the Indian subcontinent. Yet, the same logic is not applied to Afro-Asiatic languages. Despite the fact that All Afro-Asiatic branches exist in Africa and only one branch is found in the Middle East, western scholars still debate which continent this language family originates from. Even more ridiculous is the fact they ignored the evidence that shows the Horn of Africa as the birthplace of Afro-Asiatic languages since this is the region that has the majority of Afro-Asiatic languages. There are today over 47 Afro-Asiatic languages in the Horn of Africa. In the Horn of African there are 24 Cushitic language and 14 Semitic languages still spoken today. Many more Cushitic and Semitic languages used to be spoken in the Horn of Africa but they became extinct. Today the 24 Cushitic languages still spoken are: Beja, Awngi, Bilen, Qimat, Xamtanga, Gawwada, Tsamai, Dhina, Dobase, Burji, Sidamic, Saho, Afar, Oromo, Somali, Consoid, Arbore, Daasanach, El Molo, Dahalo, Rift, Ongota, Yaaku, and Dullay. The 14 Semitic languages: Ge'ez, Tigrinya, Tigre, Dahalik, Amharic, Argobba, Harari, Silt'e, Zway, Soddo, Muher, Inor, Mesqan, and Sebat Bet Gurage. Outside of the Horn of Africa, there are only two Semitic languages spoken, the Arabic and Hebrew (was extinct and was revived by the Israelis). What this shows is that the Horn of Africa is the original land where all Afro-Asiatic languages originate from. On top of the Cushitic and Semitic languages in this region, there is also the Omotic language family which is part of the Afro-Asiatic languages. There are 9 Omotic languages: Dizoid, Gonga, Ometo, Bench, Yem, Aari, Dime, Hamer, and Gayil. The Horn of Africa has three Afro-Asiatic branches out of five and the majority of Afro-Asiatic languages. The ancient Egyptians spoke an Afro-Asiatic language and they said they originally come from Punt. Somalis still have many words similar to ancient Egyptian words, they still have the same clothes, cultural dances and decorations. The evidence I discovered through years of research taught me that all the original Afro-Asiatic speakers looked like Somalis. Therefore, the current Middle Easterners are not Semites, but adopted the Semitic languages just like we have adopted today European languages. Just because I speak English it does not mean I am of European descent. The same goes with Middle Eastern people. Just because they adopted Semitic languages does not mean they are originally Semitic. In conclusion, the controversy of the ancient Egyptian identity lies in the racist blinders of western scholarship. The ancient Egyptians left behind statues and paintings that showed they looked the same for thousands of years. They depicted their enemies looking different. They depicted the Asiatic immigrants different. Yet, here we are discussing what race they were.
 
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The race of ancient Egyptians was never a mystery until western people took over scholarship.We know who the ancient Egyptians were. They were the same race as Somalis. The word Afro-Asiatic means a language family that is in Africa and in Asia. Just like the Indo-European language family is found in Europe and in the Indian subcontinent. Everyone knows without doubt Indo-European languages come from Europe and Europeans were the original speakers. Why is this uncontroversial? Because most Indo-European languages are concentrated in Europe and not in the Indian subcontinent. Yet, the same logic is not applied to Afro-Asiatic languages. Despite the fact that All Afro-Asiatic branches exist in Africa and only one branch is found in the Middle East, western scholars still debate which continent this language family originates from. Even more ridiculous is the fact they ignored the evidence that shows the Horn of Africa as the birthplace of Afro-Asiatic languages since this is the region that has the majority of Afro-Asiatic languages. There are today over 47 Afro-Asiatic languages in the Horn of Africa. In the Horn of African there are 24 Cushitic language and 14 Semitic languages still spoken today. Many more Cushitic and Semitic languages used to be spoken in the Horn of Africa but they became extinct. Today the 24 Cushitic languages still spoken are: Beja, Awngi, Bilen, Qimat, Xamtanga, Gawwada, Tsamai, Dhina, Dobase, Burji, Sidamic, Saho, Afar, Oromo, Somali, Consoid, Arbore, Daasanach, El Molo, Dahalo, Rift, Ongota, Yaaku, and Dullay. The 14 Semitic languages: Ge'ez, Tigrinya, Tigre, Dahalik, Amharic, Argobba, Harari, Silt'e, Zway, Soddo, Muher, Inor, Mesqan, and Sebat Bet Gurage. Outside of the Horn of Africa, there are only two Semitic languages spoken, the Arabic and Hebrew (was extinct and was revived by the Israelis). What this shows is that the Horn of Africa is the original land where all Afro-Asiatic languages originate from. On top of the Cushitic and Semitic languages in this region, there is also the Omotic language family which is part of the Afro-Asiatic languages. There are 9 Omotic languages: Dizoid, Gonga, Ometo, Bench, Yem, Aari, Dime, Hamer, and Gayil. The Horn of Africa has three Afro-Asiatic branches out of five and the majority of Afro-Asiatic languages. The ancient Egyptians spoke an Afro-Asiatic language and they said they originally come from Punt. Somalis still have many words similar to ancient Egyptian words, they still have the same clothes, cultural dances and decorations. The evidence I discovered through years of research taught me that all the original Afro-Asiatic speakers looked like Somalis. Therefore, the current Middle Easterners are not Semites, but adopted the Semitic languages just like we have adopted today European languages. Just because I speak English it does not mean I am of European descent. The same goes with Middle Eastern people. Just because they adopted Semitic languages does not mean they are originally Semitic. In conclusion, the controversy of the ancient Egyptian identity lies in the racist blinders of western scholarship. The ancient Egyptians left behind statues and paintings that showed they looked the same for thousands of years. They depicted their enemies looking different. They depicted the Asiatic immigrants different. Yet, here we are discussing what race they were.
Good read and i read it all. But put paragraphs in bro.
 
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Horners, African Americans, West Africans, Nordics, non-Mediterranean Europeans, & Arabs that claim the Ancient Egyptians need to stop embarrassing themselves.
i am not saying that horners or sudanese ppl can claim ancient egypt, as an eritrean im closely related to yemeni people, doesn't mean im saying my ancestors built yemeni civilisations
Genetic studies have confirmed that Ancient Egyptians are North African/Eurasian and are closely related to their fellow North Africans, the Amazigh.
cope, there are very little genetic studies on the ancient egyptians, there isnt one that deals with autosmal dna before major invasions
The Coptic people & other Modern Egyptians are the truest representation & the true descendants of Ancient Egyptians.
if this is true then why do ancient egyptians significantly group towards indigenous africans

The Badarians show a greater affinity to indigenous Africans while not being identical. This suggests that the Badarians were more affiliated with local and an indigenous African population than with Europeans
- Early Nile Valley Farmers from El Badari


A comparison with neighbouring Nile Valley skeletal samples suggests that the high status cemetery represents an endogamous ruling or elite segment of the local population at Naqada, which is more closely related to populations in northern Nubia than to neighbouring populations in southern Egypt.
- Concordance of cranial and dental morphological traits and evidence for endogamy in ancient Egypt


Early southern predynastic Egyptian crania show tropical African affinities, displaying craniometric trends that differ notably from the coastal northern African pattern. The various craniofacial patterns discernible in northern Africa are attributable to the agents of microevolution and migration.

The predynastic remains from the south (Badari, early Nagada) have been noted to be broadly Negroid by several previous workers. Casual inspection of these remains from a morphological perspective confirms this.

The upper Nile Valley series show close affinities to one another and to tropical African series. Thus variation is also present in the Egyptian Nile Valley, as the northern pattern trend is distinguishable from the southern one. The Badari and Nagada I cranial patterns emerge as tropical African variants (with Kerma). Badari remains show little affinity to the mass of Maghreban crania

- Studies of Ancient Crania From Northern Africa


"The nature of the body plan was also investigated by comparing the intermembral, brachial, and crural indices for these samples with values obtained from the literature. No significant differences were found in either index through time for either sex. The raw values in Table 6 suggest that Egyptians had the “super-Negroid” body plan described by Robins (1983). The values for the brachial and crural indices show that the distal segments of each limb are longer relative to the proximal segments than in many “African” populations (data from Aiello and Dean, 1990). This pattern is supported by Figure 7 (a plot of population mean femoral and tibial lengths; data from Ruff, 1994), which indicates that the Egyptians generally have tropical body plans"
- Variation in Ancient Egyptian Stature and Body Proportions


"Badarian occupies a position closest to the Teita, Gaboon, Nubian, and Nagada series by centroid values and territorial maps. The Nagada and the Kerma(nubian) series are so similar that they are barely distinguishable in the territorial maps; they subsume the first dynasty series in Abydos… The Badarian crania have a modal metric phenotype that is clearly “southern”; most classify into the Kerma (Nubian), Gaboon, and Kenyan groups No Badarian cranium in any analysis classified into the European series"
- Keita 1990

Our results confirm that, although ancient Egyptians are closer in body proportion to modern American Blacks than they are to American Whites proportions in Blacks and Egyptians are not identical. Previously estimated intralimb indices for ancient Egyptians are generally quite similar to ours, and are more similar to US Blacks than to US Whites. The only exception is Robins and Shute’s (1983) crural indices for Egyptian Pharaohs, which are lower, although these were derived using a different technique—radiography rather than direct measurement— which could account for the difference (alternatively, Pharaohs may have had slightly different body proportions than other Egyptians). Egyptians also fall within the range of modern African populations (Ruff and Walker, 1993), but close to the upper limit of modern Europeans as well, at least for the crural index (brachial indices are definitely more ‘‘African’’).
- Stature Estimation in Ancient Egyptians: A New Technique Based on Anatomical Reconstruction of Stature

The Mahalanobis D2 analysis uncovered close affinities between Nubians and Egyptians. Table 3 lists the Mahalanobis D2 distance matrix. As there is no significance testing that is available to be applied to this form of Mahalanobis distances, the biodistance scores must be interpreted in relation to one another, rather than on a general scale. In some cases, the statistics reveal that the Egyptian samples were more similar to Nubian samples than to other Egyptian samples (e.g. Gizeh and Hesa/Biga) and vice versa (e.g. Badari and Kerma, Naqada and Christian).
The clustering of the Nubian and Egyptian samples together supports this paper’s hypothesis and demonstrates that there may be a close relationship between the two populations. This relationship is consistent with Berry and Berry (1972), among others, who noted a similarity between Nubians and Egyptians. If Nubians and Egyptians were not biologically similar, one would expect the scores to separately cluster by population (e.g. Nubians compared to Nubians would have small biological distances, and Nubians compared to Egyptians would have high biological distances). However, this was not the case in the current analysis and the results suggest homogeneity between the two populations. Many of the samples that are similar to one another, between the two populations, are separated by great amounts of time (e.g. Kerma and Badari). These similarities over time make sense because, as Konigsberg (1990) asserted, as time elapses, related groups become more genetically similar. In order to explicate the meaning behind all of these findings, the results here must be tempered by the DNA evidence.
Both mtDNA (Krings et al., 1999) and Y-Chromosome data (Hassan et al., 2008; Keita, 2005; Lucotte and Mercier, 2003) indicate that migrations, usually bidirectional, occurred along the Nile. Thus, the osteological material used in this analysis also supports the DNA evidence

Nutter (1958) noted affinities between the Badarian and Naqada samples, a feature that Strouhal (1971) attributed to their skulls possessing ‘‘Negroid’’ traits.
- An examination of Nubian and Egyptian biological distances: Support for biological diffusion or in situ development?


this proves egyptians were black africans, not akin to copts, this also proves that egyptians had close biological affinities to nubians who have been proven to be black african and arent even up for debate

if the true egyptians are copts, so are nubians, you have cornered yourself son, i could do this all day tbh

The Ancient Egyptians lacked any sub-Saharan African admixture
Ramesses III had the Y chromosome haplogroup E1b1a, an old African lineage
- Ancient Egyptian genomes from northen Egypt

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also the bio anthropological data proves sub saharan links

accept ur wrong, you have no proof that copts are the closest thing to ancient egyptians whilst i posted all of this, like i said, i could go on for days
 
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the original Pre-Dynastic Egyptians are genetically closely related to the Coptic Egyptians of today.
A comparison with neighbouring Nile Valley skeletal samples suggests that the high status cemetery represents an endogamous ruling or elite segment of the local population at Naqada, which is more closely related to populations in northern Nubia than to neighbouring populations in southern Egypt.
- Concordance of cranial and dental morphological traits and evidence for endogamy in ancient Egypt

In this regard it is interesting to note that limb proportions of Predynastic Naqada people in Upper Egypt are reported to be "Super-Negroid," meaning that the distal segments are elongated in the fashion of tropical Africans
- Clines and clusters versus race

the early cultures of Merimde, the Fayum, Badari Naqada I and II are essentially African and early African social customs and religious beliefs were the root and foundation of the ancient Egyptian way of life
- Changes in African Archaeology in the Last Forty Years in African Studies

The Ancient Egyptians lacked any sub-Saharan African admixture, since it was forbidden to mix in their culture with the non-Copts.
"The ancient Egyptians referred to a region, located south of the third cataract the Nile River, in which Nubians dwelt as Kush.. Within such context, this phrase is not a racial slur. Throughout the history of ancient Egypt there were numerous, well documented instances that celebrate Nubian-Egyptian marriages. A study of these documents, particularly those dated to both the Egyptian New Kingdom (after 1550 B.C.E.) and to Dynasty XXV and early Dynasty XXVI (about 720-640 BCE), reveals that neither spouse nor any of the children of such unions suffered discrimination at the hands of the ancient Egyptians. Indeed such marriages were never an obstacle to social, economic, or political status, provided the individuals concerned conformed to generally accepted Egyptian social standards. Furthermore, at times, certain Nubian practices, such as tattooing for women, and the unisex fashion of wearing earrings, were wholeheartedly embraced by the ancient Egyptians."

'It is an extremely difficult task to attempt to describe the Nubians during the course of Egypt's New Kingdom, because their presence appears to have virtually evaporated from the archaeological record. The result has been described as a wholesale Nubian assimilation into Egyptian society. This assimilation was so complete that it masked all Nubian ethnic identities insofar as archaeological remains are concerned beneath the impenetrable veneer of Egypt's material.


- Robert Bianchi, Daily Life of the Nubians

"Among the foreigners, the Nubians were closest ethnically to the Egyptians. In the late predynastic period (c. 3700-3150 B.C.E.), the Nubians shared the same culture as the Egyptians and even evolved the same pharaonic political structure."
- F. J. Yurco,


there is no evidence that copts are the true egyptians, i have proven time and time again that the nubians and egyptians formed a genetic continuum and that northern nubia and southern egypt were one people


if ancient egyptians were akin to copts, so were nubians, you have cornered urself and cant prove this
 
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Ancient Egyptians weren't East Africans. They were a North African Afro-Asiatic speaking people,
all evidence points to afro asiatic languages originating in east africa, the first afro asiatics were east africans, and being north african and east african isn't mutually exclusive, horners are testimony to this
 
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i am not saying that horners or sudanese ppl can claim ancient egypt, as an eritrean im closely related to yemeni people, doesn't mean im saying my ancestors built yemeni civilisations

cope, there are very little genetic studies on the ancient egyptians, there isnt one that deals with autosmal dna before major invasions

if this is true then why do ancient egyptians significantly group towards indigenous africans

The Badarians show a greater affinity to indigenous Africans while not being identical. This suggests that the Badarians were more affiliated with local and an indigenous African population than with Europeans
- Early Nile Valley Farmers from El Badari


A comparison with neighbouring Nile Valley skeletal samples suggests that the high status cemetery represents an endogamous ruling or elite segment of the local population at Naqada, which is more closely related to populations in northern Nubia than to neighbouring populations in southern Egypt.
- Concordance of cranial and dental morphological traits and evidence for endogamy in ancient Egypt


Early southern predynastic Egyptian crania show tropical African affinities, displaying craniometric trends that differ notably from the coastal northern African pattern. The various craniofacial patterns discernible in northern Africa are attributable to the agents of microevolution and migration.

The predynastic remains from the south (Badari, early Nagada) have been noted to be broadly Negroid by several previous workers. Casual inspection of these remains from a morphological perspective confirms this.

The upper Nile Valley series show close affinities to one another and to tropical African series. Thus variation is also present in the Egyptian Nile Valley, as the northern pattern trend is distinguishable from the southern one. The Badari and Nagada I cranial patterns emerge as tropical African variants (with Kerma). Badari remains show little affinity to the mass of Maghreban crania

- Studies of Ancient Crania From Northern Africa


"The nature of the body plan was also investigated by comparing the intermembral, brachial, and crural indices for these samples with values obtained from the literature. No significant differences were found in either index through time for either sex. The raw values in Table 6 suggest that Egyptians had the “super-Negroid” body plan described by Robins (1983). The values for the brachial and crural indices show that the distal segments of each limb are longer relative to the proximal segments than in many “African” populations (data from Aiello and Dean, 1990). This pattern is supported by Figure 7 (a plot of population mean femoral and tibial lengths; data from Ruff, 1994), which indicates that the Egyptians generally have tropical body plans"
- Variation in Ancient Egyptian Stature and Body Proportions


"Badarian occupies a position closest to the Teita, Gaboon, Nubian, and Nagada series by centroid values and territorial maps. The Nagada and the Kerma(nubian) series are so similar that they are barely distinguishable in the territorial maps; they subsume the first dynasty series in Abydos… The Badarian crania have a modal metric phenotype that is clearly “southern”; most classify into the Kerma (Nubian), Gaboon, and Kenyan groups No Badarian cranium in any analysis classified into the European series"
- Keita 1990

Our results confirm that, although ancient Egyptians are closer in body proportion to modern American Blacks than they are to American Whites proportions in Blacks and Egyptians are not identical. Previously estimated intralimb indices for ancient Egyptians are generally quite similar to ours, and are more similar to US Blacks than to US Whites. The only exception is Robins and Shute’s (1983) crural indices for Egyptian Pharaohs, which are lower, although these were derived using a different technique—radiography rather than direct measurement— which could account for the difference (alternatively, Pharaohs may have had slightly different body proportions than other Egyptians). Egyptians also fall within the range of modern African populations (Ruff and Walker, 1993), but close to the upper limit of modern Europeans as well, at least for the crural index (brachial indices are definitely more ‘‘African’’).
- Stature Estimation in Ancient Egyptians: A New Technique Based on Anatomical Reconstruction of Stature

The Mahalanobis D2 analysis uncovered close affinities between Nubians and Egyptians. Table 3 lists the Mahalanobis D2 distance matrix. As there is no significance testing that is available to be applied to this form of Mahalanobis distances, the biodistance scores must be interpreted in relation to one another, rather than on a general scale. In some cases, the statistics reveal that the Egyptian samples were more similar to Nubian samples than to other Egyptian samples (e.g. Gizeh and Hesa/Biga) and vice versa (e.g. Badari and Kerma, Naqada and Christian).
The clustering of the Nubian and Egyptian samples together supports this paper’s hypothesis and demonstrates that there may be a close relationship between the two populations. This relationship is consistent with Berry and Berry (1972), among others, who noted a similarity between Nubians and Egyptians. If Nubians and Egyptians were not biologically similar, one would expect the scores to separately cluster by population (e.g. Nubians compared to Nubians would have small biological distances, and Nubians compared to Egyptians would have high biological distances). However, this was not the case in the current analysis and the results suggest homogeneity between the two populations. Many of the samples that are similar to one another, between the two populations, are separated by great amounts of time (e.g. Kerma and Badari). These similarities over time make sense because, as Konigsberg (1990) asserted, as time elapses, related groups become more genetically similar. In order to explicate the meaning behind all of these findings, the results here must be tempered by the DNA evidence.
Both mtDNA (Krings et al., 1999) and Y-Chromosome data (Hassan et al., 2008; Keita, 2005; Lucotte and Mercier, 2003) indicate that migrations, usually bidirectional, occurred along the Nile. Thus, the osteological material used in this analysis also supports the DNA evidence

Nutter (1958) noted affinities between the Badarian and Naqada samples, a feature that Strouhal (1971) attributed to their skulls possessing ‘‘Negroid’’ traits.
- An examination of Nubian and Egyptian biological distances: Support for biological diffusion or in situ development?


this proves egyptians were black africans, not akin to copts, this also proves that egyptians had close biological affinities to nubians who have been proven to be black african and arent even up for debate

if the true egyptians are copts, so are nubians, you have cornered yourself son, i could do this all day tbh


Ramesses III had the Y chromosome haplogroup E1b1a, an old African lineage
- Ancient Egyptian genomes from northen Egypt

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also the bio anthropological data proves sub saharan links

accept ur wrong, you have no proof that copts are the closest thing to ancient egyptians whilst i posted all of this, like i said, i could go on for days
Dude give it up. The original Pre-Dynastic Egyptians were closely related to their other North African & Mediterranean kin such as the Imazighen, Levantines, & Ancient Isrealites. The original Pre-Dynastic Egyptians resembled a Mediterranean-like morphology/phenotype than anything else. The modern Egyptians of today have considerable amounts of sub-Saharan African admixture, whilst their Ancient Egyptian ancestral counterparts did not. Sub-Saharan African Admixture in Egyptians:

''By directly studying ancient DNA from ancient Egyptians, we can test previous hypotheses drawn from analysing modern Egyptian DNA, such as recent admixture from populations with sub-Saharan16 and non-African ancestries17, attributed to trans-Saharan slave trade and the Islamic expansion, respectively. On a more local scale, we aim to study changes and continuities in the genetic makeup of the ancient inhabitants of the Abusir el-Meleq community (Fig. 1), since all sampled remains derive from this community in Middle Egypt and have been radiocarbon dated to the late New Kingdom to the Roman Period (cal. 1388BCE–426CE, Supplementary Data 1). In particular, we seek to determine if the inhabitants of this settlement were affected at the genetic level by foreign conquest and domination, especially during the Ptolemaic (332–30BCE) and Roman (30BCE–395CE) Periods.''

''Population genetic analysis of nuclear DNA On the nuclear level we merged the SNP data of our three ancient individuals with 2,367 modern individuals34,35 and 294 ancient genomes36 and performed PCA on the joined data set. We found the ancient Egyptian samples falling distinct from modern Egyptians, and closer towards Near Eastern and European samples (Fig. 4a, Supplementary Fig. 3, Supplementary Table 5). In contrast, modern Egyptians are shifted towards sub-Saharan African populations. Model-based clustering using ADMIXTURE37 (Fig. 4b, Supplementary Fig. 4) further supports these results and reveals that the three ancient Egyptians differ from modern Egyptians by a relatively larger Near Eastern genetic component, in particular a component found in Neolithic Levantine ancient individuals36 (Fig. 4b). In contrast, a substantially larger sub-Saharan African component, found primarily in West-African Yoruba, is seen in modern Egyptians compared to the ancient samples. In both PCA and ADMIXTURE analyses, we did not find significant differences between the three ancient samples, despite two of them having nuclear contamination estimates over 5%, which indicates no larger impact of modern DNA contamination. We used outgroup f3-statistics38 (Fig. 5a,b) for the ancient and modern Egyptians to measure shared genetic drift with other ancient and modern populations, using Mbuti as outgroup.
We find that ancient Egyptians are most closely related to Neolithic and Bronze Age samples in the Levant, as well as to Neolithic Anatolian and European populations (Fig. 5a,b). When comparing this pattern with modern Egyptians, we find that the ancient Egyptians are more closely related to all modern and ancient European populations that we tested (Fig. 5b), likely due to the additional African component in the modern population observed above. By computing f3-statistics38, we determined whether modern Egyptians could be modelled as a mixture of ancient Egyptian and other populations. Our results point towards sub-Saharan African populations as the missing component (Fig. 5c), confirming the results of the ADMIXTURE analysis. We replicated the results based on f3-statistics using only the least contaminated sample (with <1% contamination estimate) and find very similar results (Supplementary Fig. 5), confirming that the moderate levels of modern DNA contamination in two of our samples did not affect our analyses. Finally, we used two methods to estimate the fractions of sub-Saharan African ancestry in ancient and modern Egyptians. Both qpAdm35 and the f4-ratio test39 reveal that modern Egyptians inherit 8% more ancestry from African ancestors than the three ancient Egyptians do, which is also consistent with the ADMIXTURE results discussed above. Absolute estimates of African ancestry using these two methods in the three ancient individuals range from 6 to 15%, and in the modern samples from 14 to 21% depending on method and choice of reference populations (see Supplementary Note 1, Supplementary Fig. 6, Supplementary Tables 5–8). We then used ALDER40 to estimate the time of a putative pulse-like admixture event, which was estimated to have occurred 24 generations ago (700 years ago), consistent with previous results from Henn and colleagues16. While this result by itself does not exclude the possibility of much older and continuous gene flow from African sources, the substantially lower African component in our ∼2,000-year-old ancient samples suggests that African gene flow in modern Egyptians occurred indeed predominantly within the last 2,000 years.

The original ancient Egyptians were genetically, physically, & linguistically, similar to their Near Eastern (Levantine) counterparts. However, I won't deny the fact that Ancient Egypt was a heterogenous civilization that was occupied by many foreigners such as Kushites (Sudan), Greeks, Romans, Ottoman Turks, Hyksos, & many more. sub-Saharan Africans were mainly owned as slaves in Ancient Egypt. West Africans, Somalis, Ethiopians, Eritreans, Arabs, & Europeans who claim they are the Ancient Egyptians are seriously lost in touch with reality.
The Fayyum portraits are an excellent example of what your ordinanry day-to-day Ancient Egyptian (Roman-*occupied* Era) looked like:
Egyptian mummy portraits from the Roman era
Ob 9976a4 portraits du fayoum 660x303 custom
*When Egypt was under Roman occupation the vast majority of the country's population was still ethnically Egyptian. Roman only controlled Egypt. The Romans saw Egypt as a fertile Kingdom (Thanks to the Fertile Nile Delta and Valley) with the perfect natural resources for exploitation. The reason is because the Romans unlike the Ptolemaic Greeks cared less of the ancient Egyptian Cultural Heritage. The Romans who occupied Egypt were strictly there for business.* Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Libyans/Amazigh belong in the same race. Ancient Egyptians being slightly more tanned doesn't change anything. I see no difference between Ancient Egyptians and Mediterraneans.
 
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all evidence points to afro asiatic languages originating in east africa, the first afro asiatics were east africans, and being north african and east african isn't mutually exclusive, horners are testimony to this
Afro-Asiatic languages either originated in the Upper Nile Valley (which is what I personally believe) or in Southwestern Ethiopia (which is what some linguists believe). The main reason why I believe that the Afro-Asiatic homeland is in North Africa is because this also coincides with the E1b1b haplogroup & subclades E-v32/E-v12 migrations into Eastern & Horn of Africa. The Nilo-Saharan component in East African genomes also resided around the areas of the Upper Nile Valley (which is in Northern Sudan).
 
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@Muktar ur last posts were nothing short of bullshit, I will disprove when I wake up
 
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The Egyptians who built the pyramids were black :blackpill:
 
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We wuz kangz
 
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@fag112 Jfl at these blacks claiming other peoples culture. I thought this shit was only on tiktok. Didnt realize blacks here also did it.
 
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@fag112 Jfl at these blacks claiming other peoples culture. I thought this shit was only on tiktok. Didnt realize blacks here also did it.
yeah its pretty pathetic lmao!
 
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Dnr I need only to look at my own family to realize Egyptians are not black. Not even fucking close lmao
 
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Olmecs were kangz too
 
What's the point of this...
 
 
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yeah its pretty pathetic lmao!
@fag112 Jfl at these blacks claiming other peoples culture. I thought this shit was only on tiktok. Didnt realize blacks here also did it.
Whose claiming whose culture

The only people in Egypt in 2400 BC were central and East Africans no Arabs:incel:
 
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Blacks are not good at society building cuz they can always run faster than the predators. I think that why There are No civiliziation in sub saharahn africa.
 
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Dude give it up. The original Pre-Dynastic Egyptians were closely related to their other North African & Mediterranean kin such as the Imazighen, Levantines, & Ancient Isrealites. The original Pre-Dynastic Egyptians resembled a Mediterranean-like morphology/phenotype than anything else. The modern Egyptians of today have considerable amounts of sub-Saharan African admixture, whilst their Ancient Egyptian ancestral counterparts did not. Sub-Saharan African Admixture in Egyptians:
jfl you havent addressed the mountain of evidence i posted, didnt think you would
''By directly studying ancient DNA from ancient Egyptians, we can test previous hypotheses drawn from analysing modern Egyptian DNA, such as recent admixture from populations with sub-Saharan16 and non-African ancestries17, attributed to trans-Saharan slave trade and the Islamic expansion, respectively. On a more local scale, we aim to study changes and continuities in the genetic makeup of the ancient inhabitants of the Abusir el-Meleq community (Fig. 1), since all sampled remains derive from this community in Middle Egypt and have been radiocarbon dated to the late New Kingdom to the Roman Period (cal. 1388BCE–426CE, Supplementary Data 1). In particular, we seek to determine if the inhabitants of this settlement were affected at the genetic level by foreign conquest and domination, especially during the Ptolemaic (332–30BCE) and Roman (30BCE–395CE) Periods.''

''Population genetic analysis of nuclear DNA On the nuclear level we merged the SNP data of our three ancient individuals with 2,367 modern individuals34,35 and 294 ancient genomes36 and performed PCA on the joined data set. We found the ancient Egyptian samples falling distinct from modern Egyptians, and closer towards Near Eastern and European samples (Fig. 4a, Supplementary Fig. 3, Supplementary Table 5). In contrast, modern Egyptians are shifted towards sub-Saharan African populations. Model-based clustering using ADMIXTURE37 (Fig. 4b, Supplementary Fig. 4) further supports these results and reveals that the three ancient Egyptians differ from modern Egyptians by a relatively larger Near Eastern genetic component, in particular a component found in Neolithic Levantine ancient individuals36 (Fig. 4b). In contrast, a substantially larger sub-Saharan African component, found primarily in West-African Yoruba, is seen in modern Egyptians compared to the ancient samples. In both PCA and ADMIXTURE analyses, we did not find significant differences between the three ancient samples, despite two of them having nuclear contamination estimates over 5%, which indicates no larger impact of modern DNA contamination. We used outgroup f3-statistics38 (Fig. 5a,b) for the ancient and modern Egyptians to measure shared genetic drift with other ancient and modern populations, using Mbuti as outgroup.
We find that ancient Egyptians are most closely related to Neolithic and Bronze Age samples in the Levant, as well as to Neolithic Anatolian and European populations (Fig. 5a,b). When comparing this pattern with modern Egyptians, we find that the ancient Egyptians are more closely related to all modern and ancient European populations that we tested (Fig. 5b), likely due to the additional African component in the modern population observed above. By computing f3-statistics38, we determined whether modern Egyptians could be modelled as a mixture of ancient Egyptian and other populations. Our results point towards sub-Saharan African populations as the missing component (Fig. 5c), confirming the results of the ADMIXTURE analysis. We replicated the results based on f3-statistics using only the least contaminated sample (with <1% contamination estimate) and find very similar results (Supplementary Fig. 5), confirming that the moderate levels of modern DNA contamination in two of our samples did not affect our analyses. Finally, we used two methods to estimate the fractions of sub-Saharan African ancestry in ancient and modern Egyptians. Both qpAdm35 and the f4-ratio test39 reveal that modern Egyptians inherit 8% more ancestry from African ancestors than the three ancient Egyptians do, which is also consistent with the ADMIXTURE results discussed above. Absolute estimates of African ancestry using these two methods in the three ancient individuals range from 6 to 15%, and in the modern samples from 14 to 21% depending on method and choice of reference populations (see Supplementary Note 1, Supplementary Fig. 6, Supplementary Tables 5–8). We then used ALDER40 to estimate the time of a putative pulse-like admixture event, which was estimated to have occurred 24 generations ago (700 years ago), consistent with previous results from Henn and colleagues16. While this result by itself does not exclude the possibility of much older and continuous gene flow from African sources, the substantially lower African component in our ∼2,000-year-old ancient samples suggests that African gene flow in modern Egyptians occurred indeed predominantly within the last 2,000 years.
yes and i knew you would use this study, its clear you have a basic understanding of this study and haven't read it properly because it argues against something im not trying to prove

the autosmal dna in that study is of 3 egyptians, it's clear you don't know what you're posting,

"However, we note that all our genetic data were obtained from a single site in Middle Egypt and may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt. It is possible that populations in the south of Egypt were more closely related to those of Nubia and had a higher sub-Saharan genetic component, in which case the argument for an influx of sub-Saharan ancestries after the Roman Period might only be partially valid and have to be nuanced. Throughout Pharaonic history there was intense interaction between Egypt and Nubia, ranging from trade to conquest and colonialism, and there is compelling evidence for ethnic complexity within households with Egyptian men marrying Nubian
women and vice versa. Clearly, more genetic studies on ancient human remains from southern Egypt and Sudan are needed before apodictic statements can be made."



The study you're citing used late period Egyptians from the north, a region which saw a substantial influx of middle eastern people, not representative of the actual Egyptians, its a fact that Ancient Egyptian culture primarily started in southern Egypt

And the "sub saharan DNA" you're reffering to is Yoruba Nigerian ancestry, the study used one West African tribe which isn't representative of a whole fucking continent, i have consistently said the affinites are with east africans, not west

Also, nearly every haplogroup in the study was on the maternal side "Sex-biased sampling (mtDNA) cannot recover population demography of the whole country"

That shit study doesn't take into account Egyptian history in the slightest: "The authors do not consider explanations based on historical narrative, although they present historical information. NE(Near Eastern/Middle Eastern) input in Ancient Egypt could also be explained by old mercantile relationships with Lower Egypt (e.g. Maadi-Buto complex ~4,000 BC), Egyptianized Asiatic rulers and migrants (e.g. Hyksos ~1,650 BC), NE prisoners of war (e.g. from Thutmose III’s military campaign in NE ~ 1,490 BC), from diplomatic marriages (e.g. Amenhotep III and Mitanni princess, Gilukhipa ~ 1,380 BC), etc."

Now, if you want to get into DNA of Ancient Egyptians who were actually representative of the people, here's something:
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Analysis of single nucleotide polymorphisms showed that both Nakht-Ankh and Khnum-Nakht belonged to mitochondrial haplotype M1a1, suggesting a maternal relationship

The SNP identities were consistent with mtDNA haplogroup M1a1 with 88.05–91.27% degree of confidence, thus confirming the African origins of the two individuals
- The kinship of two 12th Dynasty mummies revealed by ancient DNA sequencing


you still havent addressed any of the shit i posted which consistently proves african affinities, your arguing that the original pre dynastic egyptians were copt like, but the study you posted doesnt even have an old kingdom egyptians, only very late ones that existed thousands of years later
We find that ancient Egyptians are most closely related to Neolithic and Bronze Age samples in the Levant,
do you even know anything about neolithic levantines?? they carried substantial amounts of north african ancestry btw
The original ancient Egyptians were genetically, physically, & linguistically, similar to their Near Eastern (Levantine) counterparts
again, more bullshit, i posted enough data that shows physically egyptians were closest to africans, you have posted none, your genetic data was weak aswell
sub-Saharan Africans were mainly owned as slaves in Ancient Egypt.
ur dumb as fuck for this aswell, i already proved egyptians and nubians regularly intermarried, beja/medjay people were well intergrated into egyptian society as mercenaries and soldiers, you dont have a clue what the implications of what ur saying is, miss me with this sf shit, no self respecting egyptologist of today would make such a statement, i hope ur aware ur spewing nothing but stormfront rhetoric at this point

ur literally ignoring everything i posted, its a waste of time arguing with you, i addressed everything you posted while you ignore it and post more bullshit
Ancient Egyptians being slightly more tanned doesn't change anything. I see no difference between Ancient Egyptians and Mediterraneans.
then why did the greeks describe the egyptians like this?:

"And in saying that the dove was black, they indicate that the woman was Egyptian."

"It is certain that the natives of the country are black with the heat"

Herodotus

I can see the crew with their black limbs and white tunics (reference to egyptians)
- Aeschylus 500BCE

Too black a hue marks the coward as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians(nubians) and so does also too white a complexion as you may see from women, the complexion of courage is between the two.
Aristotle


Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair.
Aristotle


the men of Egypt are mostly brown and black with a skinny and desiccated look.
Ammianus Marcellinus

don't respond if u wont address the data, like i said, i can do this all day, this is a tenth of the evidence available

if egyptians are copt like, so are nubians, address this problem or stfu
 
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