*AttentionSpanCels DO NOT ENTER* 2022 FUOTY Tournament Is Rigged and Low-IQ (In-Depth Analysis) @enchanted_elixir

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@enchanted_elixir ’s Forum User Of The Year Tournament operates according to a bracket structure.

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Tournament brackets work when the competition depends on the individual players’ skills, such as in sports games.

However, tournament brackets have a major flaw when the competition depends on other people voting for each round’s winner.

Why? The Law of Transitivity doesn’t apply to voting.

The Law of Transitivity states, if A mogs B and B mogs C, then A mogs C. This is logical. But it doesn’t work when it comes to who wins elections.

EXAMPLE 1
Let’s say there’re 3 voters who each have different preferences about what forum members are better than others.

Voter A’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @pneumocystosis
  2. @curlyheadjames
  3. @8PSLcel
Voter B’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @curlyheadjames
  2. @8PSLcel
  3. @pneumocystosis
Voter C’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @8PSLcel
  2. @pneumocystosis
  3. @curlyheadjames
What if we have a faceoff between @pneumocystosis and @8PSLcel?
  • Voter A thinks @pneumocystosis is better than @8PSLcel.
  • Voter B thinks @8PSLcel is better than @pneumocystosis.
  • Voter C thinks @8PSLcel is better than @pneumocystosis.
So @8PSLcel > @pneumocystosis in this scenario.

What if we have a faceoff between @pneumocystosis and @curlyheadjames?
  • Voter A thinks @pneumocystosis is better than @curlyheadjames.
  • Voter B thinks @curlyheadjames is better than @pneumocystosis.
  • Voter C thinks @pneumocystosis is better than @curlyheadjames.
So @pneumocystosis > @curlyheadjames in this scenario.

Well, if @8PSLcel > @pneumocystosis and @pneumocystosis > @curlyheadjames, shouldn’t @8PSLcel win when matched against @curlyheadjames?

No.

@8PSLcel versus @curlyheadjames:
  • Voter A thinks @curlyheadjames is better than @8PSLcel.
  • Voter B thinks @curlyheadjames is better than @8PSLcel.
  • Voter C thinks @8PSLcel is better than @curlyheadjames.
@8PSLcel loses the match. How intriguing! @8PSLcel beats @pneumocystosis in a battle, and @pneumocystosis beats @curlyheadjames in a battle, yet @8PSLcel does not beat @curlyheadjames.

So you see, the Law of Transitivity fails in the above case.

How’s this relevant to the FUOTY tournament? The fact that transitivity fails in voting elections means that the initial setup of contenders can affect the final outcome.

Because sports games’ outcomes are determined by the teams’ skill levels, this flaw doesn’t exist in bracket tournaments in sports. No matter the starting arrangement of the teams, the best team wins.

Unlike sports, the FUOTY tournament can be rigged to favor some contenders over others. Let’s see how it’s done:

EXAMPLE 2
First let’s make up 3 imaginary voters who each have preferences about 4 contenders for the coveted award of Forum User of the Year 2022.

Voter A’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @ifyouwannabemylover
  2. @Daiquiris
  3. @hebbewem
  4. @Amnesia
Voter B’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @Amnesia
  2. @hebbewem
  3. @ifyouwannabemylover
  4. @Daiquiris
Voter C’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @Daiquiris
  2. @hebbewem
  3. @ifyouwannabemylover
  4. @Amnesia
The battle commences. In the 1st round, @Amnesia is up against @hebbewem and @ifyouwannabemylover is up against @Daiquiris:

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@hebbewem wins the contest!

Now see what changes if @ifyouwannabemylover and @Amnesia start in swapped positions:

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Whoa! @Daiquiris wins the contest!

@Daiquiris loses in the 1st round in the 1st bracket setup. He’s the winner in the 2nd bracket setup. An utter loser can be a winner only from 1 swap in the competitors’ starting matchups.

Clearly, the system is utterly fooking broken.



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Noone cares its lighthearted
 
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I don’t care but good job buddy
 
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Noone cares its lighthearted

The general ideas are worth discussing even if people don’t care about their applications to this specific contest.

It’s important for people to understand how bracket tournaments are gerrymanderable.

Probably tons of brainlets in this community believing that starting arrangements don’t affect who wins.
 
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Jfl at me getting cucked by @ifyouwannabemylover
 
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Jfl at me getting cucked by @ifyouwannabemylover

JFL at you cucking Amnesia the Chad! :lul: The cucker and the cuckold depend on the starting arrangements:

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Ian somerhalder god in prime
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@enchanted_elixir ’s Forum User Of The Year Tournament operates according to a bracket structure.

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Tournament brackets work when the competition depends on the individual players’ skills, such as in sports games.

However, tournament brackets have a major flaw when the competition depends on other people voting for each round’s winner.

Why? The Law of Transitivity doesn’t apply to voting.

The Law of Transitivity states, if A mogs B and B mogs C, then A mogs C. This is logical. But it doesn’t work when it comes to who wins elections.

EXAMPLE 1
Let’s say there’re 3 voters who each have different preferences about what forum members are better than others.

Voter A’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @pneumocystosis
  2. @curlyheadjames
  3. @8PSLcel
Voter B’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @curlyheadjames
  2. @8PSLcel
  3. @pneumocystosis
Voter C’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @8PSLcel
  2. @pneumocystosis
  3. @curlyheadjames
What if we have a faceoff between @pneumocystosis and @8PSLcel?
  • Voter A thinks @pneumocystosis is better than @8PSLcel.
  • Voter B thinks @8PSLcel is better than @pneumocystosis.
  • Voter C thinks @8PSLcel is better than @pneumocystosis.
So @8PSLcel > @pneumocystosis in this scenario.

What if we have a faceoff between @pneumocystosis and @curlyheadjames?
  • Voter A thinks @pneumocystosis is better than @curlyheadjames.
  • Voter B thinks @curlyheadjames is better than @pneumocystosis.
  • Voter C thinks @pneumocystosis is better than @curlyheadjames.
So @pneumocystosis > @curlyheadjames in this scenario.

Well, if @8PSLcel > @pneumocystosis and @pneumocystosis > @curlyheadjames, shouldn’t @8PSLcel win when matched against @curlyheadjames?

No.

@8PSLcel versus @curlyheadjames:
  • Voter A thinks @curlyheadjames is better than @8PSLcel.
  • Voter B thinks @curlyheadjames is better than @8PSLcel.
  • Voter C thinks @8PSLcel is better than @curlyheadjames.
@8PSLcel loses the match. How intriguing! @8PSLcel beats @pneumocystosis in a battle, and @pneumocystosis beats @curlyheadjames in a battle, yet @8PSLcel does not beat @curlyheadjames.

So you see, the Law of Transitivity fails in the above case.

How’s this relevant to the FUOTY tournament? The fact that transitivity fails in voting elections means that the initial setup of contenders can affect the final outcome.

Because sports games’ outcomes are determined by the teams’ skill levels, this flaw doesn’t exist in bracket tournaments in sports. No matter the starting arrangement of the teams, the best team wins.

Unlike sports, the FUOTY tournament can be rigged to favor some contenders over others. Let’s see how it’s done:

EXAMPLE 2
First let’s make up 3 imaginary voters who each have preferences about 4 contenders for the coveted award of Forum User of the Year 2022.

Voter A’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @ifyouwannabemylover
  2. @Daiquiris
  3. @hebbewem
  4. @Amnesia
Voter B’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @Amnesia
  2. @hebbewem
  3. @ifyouwannabemylover
  4. @Daiquiris
Voter C’s preferences from most to least favorable:
  1. @Daiquiris
  2. @hebbewem
  3. @ifyouwannabemylover
  4. @Amnesia
The battle commences. In the 1st round, @Amnesia is up against @hebbewem and @ifyouwannabemylover is up against @Daiquiris:

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@hebbewem wins the contest!

Now see what changes if @ifyouwannabemylover and @Amnesia start in swapped positions:

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Whoa! @Daiquiris wins the contest!

@Daiquiris loses in the 1st round in the 1st bracket setup. He’s the winner in the 2nd bracket setup. An utter loser can be a winner only from 1 swap in the competitors’ starting matchups.

Clearly, the system is utterly fooking broken.



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With this logic, the world cup is also rigged.
 
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The world cup doesn't deliberately sit there and say

"Hmmm, who should be placed against South Korea so the bracket can be as [insert whatever here] as possible."

It's all random. Just like my tournament
 
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The world cup doesn't deliberately sit there and say

"Hmmm, who should be placed against South Korea so the bracket can be as [insert whatever here] as possible."

It's all random. Just like my tournament

random =/= fair and accurate

All permutations are “rigged”. There aren’t any starting setups in which no competitors have advantages.

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Which of the 2 examples is “less rigged”? No one knows. Not possible to decide what setups are more rigged than others without judging users by your own opinions, which defeats the purpose of the contest.

Ye the FUOTY contest is lighthearted,

Noone cares its lighthearted

My point isn’t to shit on your tournament. I like it.

The point is to show the community that bracket-style tournaments don’t work well when winners are decided by electoral voting. So hopefully the next time the forum does a tournament like FUOTY it won’t be in the bracket format.

Range Voting mogs:

 
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All permutations are “rigged”. There aren’t any starting setups in which no competitors have advantages.

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Which of the 2 examples is “less rigged”? No one knows. Not possible to decide what setups are more rigged than others without judging users by your own opinions, which defeats the purpose of the contest.

Ye the FUOTY contest is lighthearted,



My point isn’t to shit on your tournament. I like it.

The point is to show the community that bracket-style tournaments don’t work well when winners are decided by electoral voting. So hopefully next time the forum does a tournament like FUOTY it won’t be in the bracket format.

Range Voting mogs:


Good! But this wasn't the sentiment in the original post :/
 
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With this logic, the world cup is also rigged.
The world cup is based on skill

What skill exactly are two voters fighting based on?

I think his point was clear. We mirin' your effort tbh its the admins that aren't doin jack shit but there is a clear noticable flaw jfl . And you are expected to set up each of these contets one after another at an allocated time

There should be more support for a host as well a better structure. Looks like this was the first time they ever implement some shit like this; tbh you should get an award as well for all your effort even tho the structure is dogshit and indeed rigged
 
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Agreed
 
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The nigga rigged the entire format, placed himself against nobodies, changed his avi to some porno model, begged every single user to vote for him , 'the enchanted crew needs your help'

And STILL didn't reach the finals ..


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Jfl how did this nigga get mod 😭😭
He was spamming every thread to join the enchanted elixir army for hours the night of the round
and spamming graycels in dm to vote for him in exchange for rep spam

There were so many great threads in that 2 week span man jfl. Good days.
 
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