Ban behavioral genetic and IQ tests

[Crusile]

Strengthening my Argument to Ban IQ Tests

2500 words Over three years ago I provided an argument with the ultimate conclusion that IQ tests should be banned. The gist of the argument is that if we believed the hereditarian hypothesis is tr…

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I don’t even think it makes sense to claim that genes contribute to the ontogeny and differences in psychological traits between individuals. Genes only contribute to physical traits. Genes also don’t work how hereditarians need them to work. This is yet another reason why we should reject the hereditarian hypothesis and, along with it, stop using and banning IQ tests. The claim that genes contribute to the differences in psychological traits between people is not only false, but it has caused much harm since the argument has been mounted.

We need to outright cease and ban behavioral genetic research and IQ testing since they lead to avoidable harms. Since these things are based on flawed assumptions, and since these hardly have an evidentiary basis, the only recourse we should take on the matter is to outright ban them. The arguments given here definitively show that to be the case.

 

[Deleted member 26640]

tldr?

 

[sub5inchcel]

tldr?

 

[Deleted member 27746]

tldr?

suck me off

 

[lightskinbengali]

tldr?

iq tests make niggers insecure, ban them.

 

[Deleted member 26640]

suck me off

 

[Crusile]

tldr?

Genes only contribute to physical traits

 

[Crusile]

iq tests make niggers insecure, ban them.

The accepted/proposed cause of their low iq is racism. IQ tests steal confidence away from people with poor IQ test taking ability, to people with good IQ test taking ability

 

[incel194012940]

iq tests make niggers insecure, ban them.

that is literally the only reason the iq test exists.

to support racism and antisocial tendencies

name a single other valid application. Program acceptance? There is always a better test to see if you qualify (skills required for the program specifically, specialized tests, ect)

science and correlations? - but the concept of "iq" is a construct in the first place, at best only correlated to 'intelligence", a concept highly debated and difficult to define, unless you use circular thinking to make IQ = Intelligence

 

[Crusile]

that is literally the only reason the iq test exists.

to support racism and antisocial tendencies

name a single other valid application. Program acceptance? There is always a better test to see if you qualify (skills required for the program specifically, specialized tests, ect)

science and correlations? - but the concept of "iq" is a construct in the first place, at best only correlated to 'intelligence", a concept highly debated and difficult to define, unless you use circular thinking to make IQ = Intelligence

and it harms everyone, black people start to cba and commit crime and refuse employment.

after debunking behaviour genetics, racism can be reduced to arbitrary lookism preferences that dont matter. Racism should be over, s oon

 

[thecel]

that is literally the only reason the iq test exists.

to support racism and antisocial tendencies

name a single other valid application. Program acceptance? There is always a better test to see if you qualify (skills required for the program specifically, specialized tests, ect)

science and correlations? - but the concept of "iq" is a construct in the first place, at best only correlated to 'intelligence", a concept highly debated and difficult to define, unless you use circular thinking to make IQ = Intelligence

IQ tests should exist for fun and bragging.

 

[lightskinbengali]

that is literally the only reason the iq test exists.

to support racism and antisocial tendencies

name a single other valid application. Program acceptance? There is always a better test to see if you qualify (skills required for the program specifically, specialized tests, ect)

science and correlations? - but the concept of "iq" is a construct in the first place, at best only correlated to 'intelligence", a concept highly debated and difficult to define, unless you use circular thinking to make IQ = Intelligence

Good luck living in a peaceful civilized world with Africans and Pajeets as the majority.

All technological innovation, media with depth, and proper maintenance will cease slowly as the populations of east Asia and Europe decrease. Genetic predeterminism is quite a real concept, you might mention the environment but even in war-torn countries with high rates of starvation (e.g. Yemen) mog Africa's koko the gorilla tier iq.

CAGED

 

[Crusile]

Good luck living in a peaceful civilized world with Africans and Pajeets as the majority.

All technological innovation, media with depth, and proper maintenance will cease slowly as the populations of east Asia and Europe decrease. Genetic predeterminism is quite a real concept, you might mention the environment but even in war-torn countries with high rates of starvation (e.g. Yemen) mog Africa's koko the gorilla tier iq.

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who says growing up in a war-torn country has negative effects on *IQ test taking ability*? You cant measure environment on inputs, just outputs.

 

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[Deleted member 1901]

The accepted/proposed cause of their low iq is racism. IQ tests steal confidence away from people with poor IQ test taking ability, to people with good IQ test taking ability

Is there even any evidence to support this? I know there’s evidence to support the contrary.

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

thank you Shlomo

 

[Crusile]

Is there even any evidence to support this? I know there’s evidence to support the contrary.

hereditarianism is unsupported -> environmentalism cant be disproven -> racism is the only significant environmental difference

Race, IQ, and the search for statistical signals associated with so-called “X”-factors: environments, racism, and the “hereditarian hypothesis” - Biology & Philosophy

Some authors defending the “hereditarian” hypothesis with respect to differences in average IQ scores between populations have argued that the sorts of environmental variation hypothesized by some researchers rejecting the hereditarian position should leave discoverable statistical traces...

link.springer.com

Racism is the proposed environmental negative input on black IQ, which IQ research and hereditarianism contributes to.

The claim that genes contribute to the differences in psychological traits between people is not only false, but it has caused much harm since the argument has been mounted.

 

[Deleted member 20631]

How can you even argue this when hereditary autism exists?

 

[Crusile]

How can you even argue this when hereditary autism exists?

Definitely does not exist

 

[prodiggy]

hereditarianism is unsupported -> environmentalism cant be disproven -> racism is the only significant environmental difference

Race, IQ, and the search for statistical signals associated with so-called “X”-factors: environments, racism, and the “hereditarian hypothesis” - Biology & Philosophy

Some authors defending the “hereditarian” hypothesis with respect to differences in average IQ scores between populations have argued that the sorts of environmental variation hypothesized by some researchers rejecting the hereditarian position should leave discoverable statistical traces...

link.springer.com

Racism is the proposed environmental negative input on black IQ, which IQ research and hereditarianism contributes to.

So how does IQ distribution in white people is still approximately gaussian while SES is pareto?
Low IQ thread.

 

[varbrah]

I don’t even think it makes sense to claim that genes contribute to the ontogeny and differences in psychological traits between individuals. Genes only contribute to physical traits. Genes also don’t work how hereditarians need them to work. This is yet another reason why we should reject the hereditarian hypothesis and, along with it, stop using and banning IQ tests. The claim that genes contribute to the differences in psychological traits between people is not only false, but it has caused much harm since the argument has been mounted.

Wow! Good thing genes only contribute to the physical development of the brain and nervous system — which um actually does not at all affect anything psychological, racist

 

[DefinitelyNT]

The accepted/proposed cause of their low iq is racism. IQ tests steal confidence away from people with poor IQ test taking ability, to people with good IQ test taking ability

Good, the weak should fear the strong

 

[Sanguinius]

OP is literally low IQ

 

[Crusile]

Wow! Good thing genes only contribute to the physical development of the brain and nervous system — which um actually does not at all affect anything

Physical brain and nervous system? Yes there are neurological diseases which are entirely genetic https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22197/

despite three decades of intense neuroimaging research, we still lack a neurobiological account for any psychiatric condition.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.97.9.4932 Brain size doesnt predict IQ within families

PSG predicts schizophrenia at 10% (weaker than it looks: low predictive power + mental illness cant be measured objectively like height/physical traits)

and genes only predict height @ 40%.

 

[Crusile]

So how does IQ distribution in white people is still approximately gaussian while SES is pareto?
Low IQ thread.

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[Crusile]

@cloUder Debate this thread

 

[Deleted member 13787]

@cloUder Debate this thread

Never looked into this topic but im p sure there are genes that predispose you to schizophrenia and other similar conditions. So its not just physical appearence. Also things like lactose tolerance, caffeine consumption, etc. Not sure why they made that weird claim.

 

[Deleted member 13787]

I guess by "physical traits" they mean anything literally physical? Including neurochemical predispositions, etc.

 

[prodiggy]

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[Crusile]

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This is exactly why IQ test need to be banned

Never looked into this topic but im p sure there are genes that predispose you to schizophrenia and other similar conditions. So its not just physical appearence. Also things like lactose tolerance, caffeine consumption, etc. Not sure why they made that weird claim.

https://www.routledge.com/Schizophr...nd-of-An-Illusion/Joseph/p/book/9781032275505
This book debunks psychiatric genetics

its apparently not real, idk though, this is very advanced science theory, I cant knoww

I guess by "physical traits" they mean anything literally physical? Including neurochemical predispositions, etc.

No

 

[badamj]

My hot take is that IQ is mostly useless

No one gives a fuck about it unless you’re a super genius and contribute to the world (I.e Tesla).

But if you are like 130 IQ, who gives a fuck? Like wow man, you’re better at standardized tests and writing long autistic posts on the internet

Now watch yourself get lifemogged by a statusmaxxed, gymmaxxed, NT normie that goes out and enjoys life and has a 102 IQ score