[Fin-related question] Can testosterone, at adequate serum levels, completely maintain normal male sexual functions without any DHT in the serum?

[Deleted member 7776]

Fin nukes DHT by 60%, so 40% DHT remains in the serum. Dut nukes about 90-95% of DHT, so your DHT levels will be almost null.

Can adequate serum levels of testosterone maintain normal male sexual functions without the presence of DHT?

 

[Deleted member 1476]

Isn’t dht mainly for body hair and dick size and shit but serum t for cumming

 

[hairyballscel]

Maybe to an extent, but you'll defo feel a difference if you were to have no DHT

 

[Stare]

Hard to know but probably yes.
Testosterone is more related to erection than DHT.

 

[wateriswet]

wrong place to ask this question tbh, but for the majority of people the answer is yes.

 

[Mayorga]

Guevedoces serve an as example that one can have normal sexual function with practically no DHT. Also, testosterone is more important in both libido and erections

 

[Ocelot]

Guevedoces serve an as example that one can have normal sexual function with practically no DHT. Also, testosterone is more important in both libido and erections

Very interesting to read about them tbh.

 

[Mayorga]

Very interesting to read about them tbh.

funny thing is they tend to be more muscular than their healthy cousins. no hairline recession, no beard growth and a naturally muscular body - is 5AR2 deficiency the secret to prettyboymaxxing?

 

[Ocelot]

funny thing is they tend to be more muscular than their healthy cousins. no hairline recession, no beard growth and a naturally muscular body - is 5AR2 deficiency the secret to prettyboymaxxing?

Sure DHT is a double-edged sword but it's still important when it comes to masculinity. Prettyboy or not, you will not do well with a small dick.

I haven't read anything about people with 5AR deficiencies and greater muscle mass, but maybe it's because there's more available T since it isn't getting converted to DHT, hence more muscle?

 

[Mayorga]

Sure DHT is a double-edged sword but it's still important when it comes to masculinity. Prettyboy or not, you will not do well with a small dick.

it was tongue in cheek. you're right ofc, high DHT with 0 follicle sensitivity to it would be optimal

I haven't read anything about people with 5AR deficiencies and greater muscle mass

https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0002934377903138 - refer to figures 6 and 7

 

[Oueyy]

DHT is necessary

 

[Tenshi]

I don't think that's how it works. See the reason why some bodybuilders on roid experience hair loss is due to the fact that dht is made according to your levels of testosterone. If I'm not mistaken is something like 10% of your test is converted into dht. So theorically if your levels of testosterone are higher your levels of dht would rise as well.

 

[Subhuman trash]

Fin nukes DHT by 60%, so 40% DHT remains in the serum. Dut nukes about 90-95% of DHT, so your DHT levels will be almost null.

Can adequate serum levels of testosterone maintain normal male sexual functions without the presence of DHT?

No sexual functions for a bald head

 

[noorwoodinfinite]

A lot of studies show that dht have no effects on erection, but keep in mind that these drugs will blok 5 AR type 2 (and type 1 for dut) in your brain. And metabolites of this enzymes in brain might impact your libido :/

 

[lordgandy2000]

Fin nukes DHT by 60%, so 40% DHT remains in the serum. Dut nukes about 90-95% of DHT, so your DHT levels will be almost null.

Can adequate serum levels of testosterone maintain normal male sexual functions without the presence of DHT?

In theory, decreased DHT will almost certainly affect sexual function bc DHT is much more potent than testosterone. Extreme case is ppl with 5AR deficiency who are very non-masculine

 

[Deleted member 773]

Fin decreases the usage of both T and DHT by silencing and downregulating the androgen receptor.

It is very rare to get on Fin and not see a negative impact on libido, muscle gains, etc.

 

[Baldingman1998]

Very unlikely I'm afraid. Dht has 4 times the bindings affinity of testosterone. You would need 4x normal test level to make up for that in theory. But even then there is no guarantee

 

[lasthope]

Very unlikely I'm afraid. Dht has 4 times the bindings affinity of testosterone. You would need 4x normal test level to make up for that in theory. But even then there is no guarantee

so to counter fin side effects you need to inject?

 

[MewingJBP]

yes pfs is literally low test high estrogen if you have enough test and normal estrogen you're gonna be fine