Goatis/Sv3rige is a Fucking Midwit (The Nature Cope Debunked)

[SidharthTheSlayer]

Goatis/Sv3rige is a youtuber who has made a name for himself out of his contrarian views on diet and strict adherence to nature

But I am here to tell you that there's really nothing more midwit than the appeal to nature, which basically posits that nature and "natural living" as the idyllic way of life for humans.

It is a typically anti-Science viewpoint that relies on the concept of living much like your forebears, typically appealing to the kind of people who cope with traditionalism and conservatism

However the entire concept of living "naturally" is flawed, because when you rely on nature as the complete opposite of science you are actually doing the same as the soyheads that you're against

You're a fucking midwit if you "believe" in "nature" and don't see how it is literally the exact same thing as believing in "science".

There is NOTHING objective about living "naturally", and you can't actually prove anything about how your ancestors lived you midwit fuck.

You don't know for sure if they hunted, if they ate plants and farmed, how they lived... you weren't THERE. You're relying on a secondary source, a secondary source that isn't science, but rather history. In this case, history as told by a balding Latvian horseface with an IQ of 95 who larps as Swedish...

Didn't this nigger literally get hospitalized for some brain virus from eating raw meat JFL. Absolutely delusional, just like his fanbase who have zero critical thinking skills and like him because he's a contrarian

 

[SidharthTheSlayer]

@BrahminBoss @IAMNOTANINCEL @Ryan @radicalrationalist

 

[SidharthTheSlayer]

Bumping so the slaves can read this

 

[shabby890]

Myth of the healthy savage.

Ppl like goatis who shill this natural living thing while pointing to the facial development of rural Native Americans/Abo tribes overlook a lot of shit tbh.

They cherrypick examples of tribals with no cavities and wide dental arches. Yes obviously they don't consume processed sugar/goyslop, obviously they won't get as much cavities as the Modern male.

The don't mention malnutrition and how tribals suffer from a multitude of diseases the Modern man don't.

Obviously eating clean natural hard foods is ideal. But looking at primitive tribals for guidance is kinda dumb tbh

 

[SidharthTheSlayer]

Myth of the healthy savage.

Ppl like goatis who shill this natural living thing while pointing to the facial development of rural Native Americans/Abo tribes overlook a lot of shit tbh.

They cherrypick examples of tribals with no cavities and wide dental arches. Yes obviously they don't consume processed sugar/goyslop, obviously they won't get as much cavities as the Modern male.

The don't mention malnutrition and how tribals suffer from a multitude of diseases the Modern man don't.

Obviously eating clean natural hard foods is ideal. But looking at primitive tribals for guidance is kinda dumb tbh

Their facial development would be a result of their specific genotype too, not actual diet or lifestyle... If you are going to call science fake you should also call the concept of nature fake too. Personally I don't believe in empirical knowledge or objectivity, it doesn't make sense

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

no, sv3rige literally says "do what the fuck you want with your life"
he says that you should do what you want, as long as it maximizes pleasure and happiness, life is a game anyway
BUT, he says that a natural lifestyle is the best way to do that long term, so that why he promotes it

You don't know for sure if they hunted, if they ate plants and farmed, how they lived... you weren't THERE.

i mean, we can, just looking at the most uncontacted tribes and see how they do it, because they have to be mirroring tradition, and if they have mirrored tradition, and they keep doing it in and have always done it in a specific way, that means its the most effective and easiest method




we also have this other thing, it's called the human body and we can perform experiments with it and make conclusions.
eating plants has no positive effects (only negative effects) on the body, therefore we can assume that humans probably avoided eating plants, and back then they couldn't prepare the plants the way we do now, so double that assumption


and it's funny, because people against this type of shit use the exact same argument to deboonk that, they go, "but muh we invented fire and started cooking, muh we lived to 20 back then" how the fuck do you know?

Didn't this nigger literally get hospitalized for some brain virus from eating raw meat JFL. Absolutely delusional, just like his fanbase who have zero critical thinking skills and like him because he's a contrarian

no, that's fake slander against our lord and saviour.
so you better take what you just said about my LORD AND SAVIOUR, Gatiz Lagzdins back.

 

[SidharthTheSlayer]

BUT, he says that a natural lifestyle is the best way to do that long term, so that why he promotes it

The idea of there existing some kind of idyllic natural lifestyle that everyone should follow is inherently flawed though. Because like you said...

i mean, we can, just looking at the most uncontacted tribes and see how they do it, because they have to be mirroring tradition, and if they have mirrored tradition, and they keep doing it in and have always done it in a specific way, that means its the most effective and easiest method

Uncontacted tribes live like that successfully because it is the best way for them to adapt to their environment, as they have done for centuries... for example, I am Indian and you are Latino. Our ancestors as diverse as they were all lived an entirely different way from us, that continued to change throughout time. It would be foolish to try and imitate these tribes as we are not even related to them

we also have this other thing, it's called the human body and we can perform experiments with it and make conclusions.
eating plants has no positive effects on the body, therefore we can assume that humans probably avoided eating plants, and back then they couldn't prepare the plants the way we do now, so double that assumption

That's a scientific method though. Which if you support living in accordance to human nature, it wouldn't make sense. The idea of instinct is also flawed. In your specific case you tried raw meat and saw the positive effects I believe, so it would be valid for you but not for everybody

 

[shabby890]

Their facial development would be a result of their specific genotype too, not actual diet or lifestyle... If you are going to call science fake you should also call the concept of nature fake too. Personally I don't believe in empirical knowledge or objectivity, it doesn't make sense

I was referring to their dental development, they reference stuff by Weston Price a lot.
I just don't think we should take this stuff as face value

 

[Skywalker]

awesome thread and posts OP- look at my last thread- its about him
sometimes this forum feels like that retard's fan club lol

 

[Hardrada]

Sv3rige has been in hospital for the past 5 days from a bug bite

 

[Deleted member 21899]

Sv3rige has been in hospital for the past 5 days from a bug bite

From parasites from raw meat

 

[Skywalker]

From parasites from raw meat

100%
apparently he hasnt got the IQ to research WHEN fire was discovered by prehistoric humans and also applied, fucking lol

 

[hopecel]

Goatis/Sv3rige is a youtuber who has made a name for himself out of his contrarian views on diet and strict adherence to nature

But I am here to tell you that there's really nothing more midwit than the appeal to nature, which basically posits that nature and "natural living" as the idyllic way of life for humans.

It is a typically anti-Science viewpoint that relies on the concept of living much like your forebears, typically appealing to the kind of people who cope with traditionalism and conservatism

However the entire concept of living "naturally" is flawed, because when you rely on nature as the complete opposite of science you are actually doing the same as the soyheads that you're against


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You're a fucking midwit if you "believe" in "nature" and don't see how it is literally the exact same thing as believing in "science".

There is NOTHING objective about living "naturally", and you can't actually prove anything about how your ancestors lived you midwit fuck.

You don't know for sure if they hunted, if they ate plants and farmed, how they lived... you weren't THERE. You're relying on a secondary source, a secondary source that isn't science, but rather history. In this case, history as told by a balding Latvian horseface with an IQ of 95 who larps as Swedish...

Didn't this nigger literally get hospitalized for some brain virus from eating raw meat JFL. Absolutely delusional, just like his fanbase who have zero critical thinking skills and like him because he's a contrarian

Gatis don't brush or floss his teeth whatsoever

 

[mrdouchebag]

Goatis is low IQ. He has some good takes, but also a lot of bad takes, like really bad takes, that go against all scientific literature.

 

[FacingDestiny]

Science is just grasping at the essence of nature, and because of it for instance we live in much more comfort than our ancestors. Mistakes and "mistakes" do get made though in trying to apply our knowledge of nature to specific ends. The "live in nature" thing is more of an aesthetic than anything. It's like trying to be a goth girl.

 

[HTN_Mentalcel]

Biologically our digestive tract is smaller than herbivores. We cannot convert a lot of plant nutrients to vitamins. We are not omnivores we are carnivoures.

 

[Mewton]

 

[Luh?nn?]

Everyone should know this by now

Nigga got below sub zero IQ

 

[e<6gx#7Nw6APF"XU]

autist take, if you think humans shouldnt eat 80%+ meat 20%- fruit you're completely delusional and retarded

 

[N1666]

autist take, if you think humans shouldnt eat 80%+ meat 20%- fruit you're completely delusional and retarded

Nobody is disputing that, nor is what either of them are pushing.

 

[radicalrationalist]

i don't understand what compels people to follow and listen to perennially wrong morons like severige, hasan piker, david pakman, the young turks, etc and basically every other left wing npc p zombie. so much more fascinating and intelligent content out there than the same bluepilled leftist copes regurgitated ad nauseam

 

[neverascendcurrycel]

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