how can one be so lean and have such a mogger frame

[mewman]

0rb for example framemogs 90% of gymcells.

he probably under 12% bf here while having a frame like this, which is crazy to me, was it all just genetics? Mirin him hard tbh

the on the right who gets used for framemaxxpill all the time also has a pretty low bf.

In the end you can't escape the fact that genetics are everything. A low bf chad with average frame will look like twink and will get his smv dropped to chadlite. htn even

Time to only workout for neck , frame , cardio and do some bench press to flex about your strength

 

[DoII]

Genetics

 

[LooksOrDeath]

lower bodyfat makes your frame look better

 

[Deleted member 50511]

It’s all bones, muscle is cope for most part if you got shit frame. A guy who does push ups with wide shoulders will mog a narrow 10 year gymcel with clothes on.

Nobody cares how filled out your muscles are, only looking wide matters. You can fraud that with muscles but only so much.

 

[anthony111553]

he looks like shit

 

[anthony111553]

It’s all bones, muscle is cope for most part if you got shit frame. A guy who does push ups with wide shoulders will mog a narrow 10 year gymcel with clothes on.

Nobody cares how filled out your muscles are, only looking wide matters. You can fraud that with muscles but only so much.

frame is also cope, face and height all that matters.

 

[future slavic chad]

his narrow skull makes his shoulders look that much wider

 

[try2beme]

Having genetics for wide shoulders + being a skullcel = huge frame

 

[Deleted member 55854]

Bones, baby.

 

[Deleted member 55854]

It’s all bones, muscle is cope for most part if you got shit frame. A guy who does push ups with wide shoulders will mog a narrow 10 year gymcel with clothes on.

Nobody cares how filled out your muscles are, only looking wide matters. You can fraud that with muscles but only so much.

Bones are law.
Women are only attracted to certain bodybuilders because of their genetic frames. It's the only thing that invokes raw primal attraction in them.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

frame is also cope, face and height all that matters.

I sort of agree with this but frame should be at least normal/average to not be considered a failo.

As long as your frame is not a failo then its cope but if ur framecel it subconsciouly makes you more unattractive to women.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Bones are law.
Women are only attracted to certain bodybuilders because of their genetic frames. It's the only thing that invokes raw primal attraction in them.

Frame's cope anyways, as long as your frame is normal for your height then face, height and race = 80% of your total SMV/Attractivness already.

Just be 6'4 Prettyboy Chad theory

 

[Deleted member 55854]

Frame's cope anyways, as long as your frame is normal for your height then face, height and race = 80% of your total SMV/Attractivness already.

Just be 6'4 Prettyboy Chad theory

Frame is a halo. But as long as you don't have any frame falios it's all gud.

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

Frame is a halo. But as long as you don't have any frame falios it's all gud.

Frame halo would contribute to about 5% of ur total SMV which imo sounds bad.

 

[unknownducks]

its all genetics

 

[wackedchives]

orb is a manlet

 

[SomaliMax]

y’all only look at extremes. Orb in those pic has an average frame with straight clavicals. The leaner u are the smaller ur waist is = making u look more wide

 

[mewman]

he looks like shit

frame is also cope, face and height all that matters.

Ok non bpilled tiktoker.
Your opinion:

 

[mvp2v1]

people responding genetics to this thread might as well say magic.

 

[mewman]

Frame's cope anyways, as long as your frame is normal for your height then face, height and race = 80% of your total SMV/Attractivness already.

Just be 6'4 Prettyboy Chad theory

Oh that lanklet htn prettyboy? Whatever works for him ig but he ain't no chad

 

[LampPostPrime]

Frame halo would contribute to about 5% of ur total SMV which imo sounds bad.

only damaged and low iq low class girls like big frame ogres

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

only damaged and low iq low class girls like big frame ogres

mostly roasties/ out of prime girls

 

[mewman]

only damaged and low iq low class girls like big frame ogres

with good frame + height you can intimidate other man also assert your dominance. Stop thinking about pussy for sec framelet

 

[DeformedCell]

with good frame + height you can intimidate other man also assert your dominance. Stop thinking about pussy for sec framelet

Ah yes, go assert your manly dominance over Ernesto frale, submissive little body tonight and don't forget to send me the full video.

 

[MakinItHappen]

This thread explains it. Stop repeating dumb questions. Fucking retarded TikTok normies

THE DEVASTATING SCAPULA-SHOULDER PILL - THIS HAS DESTROYED MY LIFE ⚠

LET ME BE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TELL YOU THAT FRAME IS IMPORTANT ⚠ IT'S almost AS EQUIVELENT AS THE HEIGHTPILL ⚠ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7212994/ "Actually, that’s unfair to suits. Women respond to broad shoulders far more powerfully than men respond to breasts, making suits the more...

looksmax.org

 

[MakinItHappen]

LET ME BE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TELL YOU THAT FRAME IS IMPORTANT



⚠ IT'S almost AS EQUIVELENT AS THE HEIGHTPILL ⚠

Physical attractiveness: the influence of selected torso parameters - PubMed

Front-view line drawings of male and female physiques were rated for attractiveness. Both subject sexes rated female physiques with greater curvature as less attractive. Male subjects' ratings were unaffected by breast size while female subjects showed slight negative evaluation of large...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Actually, that’s unfair to suits. Women respond to broad shoulders far more powerfully than men respond to breasts, making suits the more powerful of the two. Do you know that lustful feeling well-cloven cleavage can instil in you? Well, broad shoulders give women that same feeling, except stronger (study)."





NOW ONCE I DREW YOUR ATTENTION, LET'S BEGIN




The traditional "Muh frame doesn't matter" is a BULLSHIT

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^^ Which Jimson has more sex - [ISPOILER]THE ONE ON THE RIGHT[/ISPOILER]



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^^ Which BBC is living more happier life = [ISPOILER]THE RIGHT ONE OF COURSE[/ISPOILER]



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^^ Which guy do you think is overall more successful in life - [ISPOILER]THE RIGHT FUCKING ONE[/ISPOILER]






It is very important for men to be tall, wide framed, and heavy (due to bone mass and muscle mass).

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Being a lightweighted twink will extremely reduce your General Fighting success, superior chads will be easily able to lift you up and slam you down to the ground





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But "muh hard work and dedication"...



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Chestbrahs Frame Looks like shit next to jeff's one, his clavicles have the width of his head, his shoulders are compressed on his ribcage, you can easily spot his below average Frame under all These muscles


Most People typically rely on that bro science that wide shoulders are simply caused by wide clavicles, which is half-way true, But the important factor which makes their shoulders so Broad are their scapulas. which brings us to scapula - pill section.






SCAPULA - PILL
(Neither @Sergeant knows how to fix double spoiler problem, it's a xenforo issue)

Spoiler: Scapula - pill

Kim freire for example doesn't has extreme wide clavicles, but he has a enormous wide Scapula which extends well above his horizontal ribcage width

Spoiler: Scapula - pill

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The shape and the lateral projection of the Scapula is determined by your genetics, mostly it's determined by the androgen receptor exposure and their Density/sensitivity.

- The lateral projection of the glenoid cavity aka the neck is the most important part, if this part is laterally narrow along with a sloped Humerus Insertion then the shoulders will look like they are literally compressed on the ribcage

Although the "slopedness" is in 90% of cases more related to The clavicle shape, every chad has 1 Thing in common: Straight clavicles or at least relatively straight clavicles, it's not even the actual width of the clavicles but the straightness which is important. Thus brings us to clavicle insertions section.

CLAVICLE INSERTIONS (Angulation)

Spoiler: Clavicle insertion - pill

Straight clavicles determine how Broad/squarish and straight in General your shoulders will look

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Incels have usually horrible feminine short curved V shaped clavicles, this does not only makes the shoulders look sloped, it also results in a horizontal narrow chest Insertion, a chest muscle insertions which grows downward rather than laterally outwards.

One of the WORST incel traits you can imagine, a roundish horizontal narrow U shaped chest insertion

It's such a typical gymcel trait, it Looks totally un-dimorphic and unmasculine, like 2 Forward projecting sagging tits

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Compared to a godly chaddish horizontal wide square chest

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Lets imagine 2 guys with the same biacromial breadth, one with square and one with sloped shoulders, the one with the square shoulder will look optically and objectively wider after he gained the same amount of mass because his Deltoid projection goes straight sideways and not diagonally upwards like on a cripple

But if you have sloped shoulders, Increasing your Deltoid size will consequently increase the slopedness of your shoulders

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It just Looks ugly and silly, it's not only a incel trait, it's a total neotenous-feminine trait

A mature male Body is supposed to be straightly framed by the shoulders/arms

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FINAL CONCLUSION

Spoiler: Conclusion

The angulation of your shoulders/clavicle along with the length of your neck determine whetever you will be seen as a naturally unathletic Coping gymcel or as a natural athletic chad with a huge sex appeal

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THIS IS WHAT PRIME JB'S WANT!!!!. They dont care About your utterly roided/bloated and sloped 22 Inch bideltoid when chad Comes into the room with his genetically superior non gymcelled 25 Inch square-shoulder bideltoid with a biacromial breadth of 23 inches

DOES GYMECELING HELP ?

Spoiler: Lifefuel or not ? - find out

The answer is: YES, BUT only if you have relatively straight clavicles/squarish shoulders to begin with

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Zyzz, David Laid, Jon Skywalker etc. all These guys had relatively Broad and straight clavicles to begin with which why they looked so aesthetic after they gained several Pounds of muscle

Deluded normies Always use These 3 guys as a example that anyone can max his Frame simply by going to the gym, but almost no one Pays Attention to the fact that all These 3 guys already had a very impressive clavicular/shoulder structure to begin with which allowed them a straight lateral Deltoid projection

... AND REMEMBER

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FRAME = LIFE