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barettrealrx

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measurements
71.5 midface lengthy measured to upper lip
68.5 mm ipd
157 mm byzygomatic width
55 mm lip width
11 mm upper lip height measured to highest point
10 mm lower lip height
21 mm lip height
19 mm philtrum length measured to top of lip
39 mm chin height
50 mm ramus
46 alar base width
29 mm pfl
30 mm pfl pulling back epicanthal fold
9 mm eye height

Ratioes
Midface ratio - 0.958
Esr - 0.43
Lower/upper lip ratio - 0.9
Mouth/nose ratio - 1.19
Chin/Philtrum ratio - 1.85
Gonial angle - 110 degrees
Nasolabial angle - 100 degrees (distorted by protrusive lower maxilla)
Nasofrontal angle - 150
Nasomental angle - 30

Failos from most to least importance
Brachycephaly (square jaw, short lower third, i.e)
Short nose
Short pfl
Monolids
Flat maxilla
shit nasal protrusion
Overjet
Flat brow ridge
Short lower lip
Low set zygos

How I plan to fix my failos

Bimax cw rotation:
Brachycephaly
Short nose rhinoplasty:
Short nose
Canthoplasty
Short pfl
Blepharoplasty:
Monolids
Paranasal implant:
Flat maxilla
Shit nasal protrusion:
Asian rhinoplasty
Flat brow ridge:
Forehead implants

Will get orthodontist for overjet

Yes yes I know I probably won’t get half of this shit done but good to mentally masurbate about
 
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measurements
71.5 midface lengthy measured to upper lip
68.5 mm ipd
157 mm byzygomatic width
55 mm lip width
11 mm upper lip height measured to highest point
10 mm lower lip height
21 mm lip height
19 mm philtrum length measured to top of lip
39 mm chin height
50 mm ramus
46 alar base width
29 mm pfl
30 mm pfl pulling back epicanthal fold
9 mm eye height

Ratioes
Midface ratio - 0.958
Esr - 0.43
Lower/upper lip ratio - 0.9
Mouth/nose ratio - 1.19
Chin/Philtrum ratio - 1.85
Gonial angle - 110 degrees
Nasolabial angle - 100 degrees (distorted by protrusive lower maxilla)
Nasofrontal angle - 150
Nasomental angle - 30

Failos from most to least importance
Brachycephaly (square jaw, short lower third, i.e)
Short nose
Short pfl
Monolids
Flat maxilla
shit nasal protrusion
Overjet
Flat brow ridge
Short lower lip
Low set zygos

How I plan to fix my failos

Bimax cw rotation:
Brachycephaly
Short nose rhinoplasty:
Short nose
Canthoplasty
Short pfl
Blepharoplasty:
Monolids
Paranasal implant:
Flat maxilla
Shit nasal protrusion:
Asian rhinoplasty
Flat brow ridge:
Forehead implants

Will get orthodontist for overjet

Yes yes I know I probably won’t get half of this shit done but good to mentally masurbate about
Bump
 
measurements
71.5 midface lengthy measured to upper lip
68.5 mm ipd
157 mm byzygomatic width
55 mm lip width
11 mm upper lip height measured to highest point
10 mm lower lip height
21 mm lip height
19 mm philtrum length measured to top of lip
39 mm chin height
50 mm ramus
46 alar base width
29 mm pfl
30 mm pfl pulling back epicanthal fold
9 mm eye height

Ratioes
Midface ratio - 0.958
Esr - 0.43
Lower/upper lip ratio - 0.9
Mouth/nose ratio - 1.19
Chin/Philtrum ratio - 1.85
Gonial angle - 110 degrees
Nasolabial angle - 100 degrees (distorted by protrusive lower maxilla)
Nasofrontal angle - 150
Nasomental angle - 30

Failos from most to least importance
Brachycephaly (square jaw, short lower third, i.e)
Short nose
Short pfl
Monolids
Flat maxilla
shit nasal protrusion
Overjet
Flat brow ridge
Short lower lip
Low set zygos

How I plan to fix my failos

Bimax cw rotation:
Brachycephaly
Short nose rhinoplasty:
Short nose
Canthoplasty
Short pfl
Blepharoplasty:
Monolids
Paranasal implant:
Flat maxilla
Shit nasal protrusion:
Asian rhinoplasty
Flat brow ridge:
Forehead implants

Will get orthodontist for overjet

Yes yes I know I probably won’t get half of this shit done but good to mentally masurbate about
Brutal no reply pill
 
You're honestly not that cooked. Fixing your eye area and softmaxxing (gymmaxxing + leaning out) would ascend you pretty well.
 
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You're honestly not that cooked. Fixing your eye area and softmaxxing (gymmaxxing + leaning out) would ascend you pretty well.
Surgery wise all I really need is cantho Bimax cow roatation and short nose rhino then I’ll be good
 
Surgery wise all I really need is cantho Bimax cow roatation and short nose rhino then I’ll be good
Ion wanna gymmaxx rn looks weird on brachycephalic head
 
Surgery wise all I really need is cantho Bimax cow roatation and short nose rhino then I’ll be good
From what I remember I don't think you even really need bimax unless you have class III malocclusion.
 
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From what I remember I don't think you even really need bimax unless you have class III malocclusion.
Can rotation basically opposite of ccw rotation makes your face longer
 
Can rotation basically opposite of ccw rotation makes your face longer
Just doing a clockwise rotation without downgrafting wouldn't elongate or shorten someone's face from what I understand.
 
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Just doing a clockwise rotation without downgrafting wouldn't elongate or shorten someone's face from what I understand.
What is down grafting? Sorry I haven’t researched Bimax yet
 
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Repositioning of the mandible and/or maxilla downwards.
Why not? It increases gonial angle show example of one with downgradting and without
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measurements
71.5 midface lengthy measured to upper lip
68.5 mm ipd
157 mm byzygomatic width
55 mm lip width
11 mm upper lip height measured to highest point
10 mm lower lip height
21 mm lip height
19 mm philtrum length measured to top of lip
39 mm chin height
50 mm ramus
46 alar base width
29 mm pfl
30 mm pfl pulling back epicanthal fold
9 mm eye height

Ratioes
Midface ratio - 0.958
Esr - 0.43
Lower/upper lip ratio - 0.9
Mouth/nose ratio - 1.19
Chin/Philtrum ratio - 1.85
Gonial angle - 110 degrees
Nasolabial angle - 100 degrees (distorted by protrusive lower maxilla)
Nasofrontal angle - 150
Nasomental angle - 30

Failos from most to least importance
Brachycephaly (square jaw, short lower third, i.e)
Short nose
Short pfl
Monolids
Flat maxilla
shit nasal protrusion
Overjet
Flat brow ridge
Short lower lip
Low set zygos

How I plan to fix my failos

Bimax cw rotation:
Brachycephaly
Short nose rhinoplasty:
Short nose
Canthoplasty
Short pfl
Blepharoplasty:
Monolids
Paranasal implant:
Flat maxilla
Shit nasal protrusion:
Asian rhinoplasty
Flat brow ridge:
Forehead implants

Will get orthodontist for overjet

Yes yes I know I probably won’t get half of this shit done but good to mentally masurbate about
I write all this and some nigga named @Truecel jfl s with no context
 
I write all this and some nigga named @Truecel jfl s with no context
Hol up how this trucel nigga basically invisible and has same name as this other dude
 
Why not? It increases gonial angle show example of one with downgradting and without View attachment 2826300
Are you asking why clockwise rotation would not elongate someone's face without downrating? A clockwise rotation would just move the jaw forward and up. I'm probably not the person to be asking about the semantics of CW since I'm only familiar with CCW.
 
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Goddamn he got dogmaxxed. But yeah a clockwise rotation of the mandible will result in a higher gonial angle, consequently leading to a longer face.
Vertical genio is Bimax cw rotation without dogmaxxing?
 
measurements
71.5 midface lengthy measured to upper lip
68.5 mm ipd
157 mm byzygomatic width
55 mm lip width
11 mm upper lip height measured to highest point
10 mm lower lip height
21 mm lip height
19 mm philtrum length measured to top of lip
39 mm chin height
50 mm ramus
46 alar base width
29 mm pfl
30 mm pfl pulling back epicanthal fold
9 mm eye height

Ratioes
Midface ratio - 0.958
Esr - 0.43
Lower/upper lip ratio - 0.9
Mouth/nose ratio - 1.19
Chin/Philtrum ratio - 1.85
Gonial angle - 110 degrees
Nasolabial angle - 100 degrees (distorted by protrusive lower maxilla)
Nasofrontal angle - 150
Nasomental angle - 30

Failos from most to least importance
Brachycephaly (square jaw, short lower third, i.e)
Short nose
Short pfl
Monolids
Flat maxilla
shit nasal protrusion
Overjet
Flat brow ridge
Short lower lip
Low set zygos

How I plan to fix my failos

Bimax cw rotation:
Brachycephaly
Short nose rhinoplasty:
Short nose
Canthoplasty
Short pfl
Blepharoplasty:
Monolids
Paranasal implant:
Flat maxilla
Shit nasal protrusion:
Asian rhinoplasty
Flat brow ridge:
Forehead implants

Will get orthodontist for overjet

Yes yes I know I probably won’t get half of this shit done but good to mentally masurbate about
Ok daddy please tell me how the fuck do I accurately measure my facial features in mm? ty in advance :)
 
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Ok daddy please tell me how the fuck do I accurately measure my facial features in mm? ty in advance :)
Search up how to do it for each accurately it's really a case by case thing
 
Vertical genio is Bimax cw rotation without dogmaxxing?
what does dogmaxxing mean , i am in your same situation and when i jut i genuinally look better . Since bimax costs A LOT and also is a complicate procedure i was tempted to opt for a vertical genioplasty.
 
what does dogmaxxing mean , i am in your same situation and when i jut i genuinally look better . Since bimax costs A LOT and also is a complicate procedure i was tempted to opt for a vertical genioplasty.
Just get vertical genio dognaxixg is when the bimax produces too much bimaxillary protrusion but that didn't really occur in this
 
How did you measure your ratios?
 
How did you measure your ratios?
Idk I just searched up how to accurate measure each required length/width for it on looksmAx or just found out my own way (for example on byzygomatic width I put rulers on side of my head perpendicular to my face and drew on the line of the ruler then toon my face off and measured length between the 2 points also I used mirror to check if the rulers are perfectly perpendicular to my face)
 
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