PSA: If you ever took Fin, just forget about NoFap

[EmilKing]

Take it from a guy who ONLY took 3 doses of Fin and has been NoFapping for 50 days.

Almost every single benefit from NoFap is completely cancelled out from the detrimental anti-androgenic side effects of Fin.

No libido, no random erections, no morning wood, zero penis sensitivity. it actually has the exact opposite effects of what nofap promises. I actually have to deathgrip AND watch porn now to get a decent erection. Its so ironic because i have zero urge to fap... yet NONE of the benefits of nofap.

TLDR; do not take fin.

for context, this was me on 1-2 weeks of nofap PRE-FIN: Vivid sexual dreams, random erections throughout day, actual raw natural sexual urge libido and super sensitive penis.

I pray to God that I recover from PFS soon.

 

[NoPainNoChick]

Hum... I'm not sure you can have such drastic side effects after only 3 days... Must be nocebo effect.

 

[EmilKing]

Hum... I'm not sure you can have such drastic side effects after only 3 days... Must be nocebo effect.

I took 1 mg PER WEEK and then quit, its been about a month since i quit and I STILL have sides

I said in the other thread but heres the problem:

ED when having actual sex? Yes 100% could be caused by nocebo and most of the time it IS.

However what i CAN'T accept or wrap my head around is that ED as it relates to morning wood, penis sensitivity and erection quality CANNOT be nocebod into. How is it possible that you can nocebo yourself into having suddenly NO morning wood whereas before PFS you had it 5-6 days/week?

 

[ReverseNorwoodPill]

I took 1 mg PER WEEK and then quit, its been about a month since i quit and I STILL have sides

I said in the other thread but heres the problem:

ED when having actual sex? Yes 100% could be caused by nocebo and most of the time it IS.

However what i CAN'T accept or wrap my head around is that ED as it relates to morning wood, penis sensitivity and erection quality CANNOT be nocebod into. How is it possible that you can nocebo yourself into having suddenly NO morning wood whereas before PFS you had it 5-6 days/week?

observe your beard growth, bet it's slower too

 

[Stare]

Hum... I'm not sure you can have such drastic side effects after only 3 days... Must be nocebo effect.

It's 100% placebo
lol at anyone who believes in this shit

 

[Deleted member 10987]

It's 100% placebo
lol at anyone who believes in this shit

>muh placebo
Kys retard

 

[Deleted member 5061]

It's 100% placebo
lol at anyone who believes in this shit

Dude, you realize Fin wasnt even developed to reduce hair loss but was meant for some other shit, that has to do with prostata or smth like that. Theyve just discovered that this shit also helped decrease DHT, which is the main reason for hair follicle shrinkage.

This is a medicine that messes with a mans dick primarily, I dont think that its unrealistic that some ppl have terrible sides from this fkn tranny drug created by hoooknoses.

 

[EmilKing]

Dude, you realize Fin wasnt even developed to reduce hair loss but was meant for some other shit, that has to do with prostata or smth like that. Theyve just discovered that this shit also helped decrease DHT, which is the main reason for hair follicle shrinkage.

This is a medicine that messes with a mans dick primarily, I dont think that its unrealistic that some ppl have terrible sides from this fkn tranny drug created by hoooknoses.

This. Fin is an ANTI-ANDROGEN drug. It is meant to castrate you at the expense of saving some hair. Just fucking search finasteride on twitter, its filled with trannys sharing their experiences. Even trannies are beginning to question Fin now. Theres multiple class action lawsuites agaisnt merck regarding PFS. Merck execs deserve to be hanged.

also

Doctors & Researchers Speaking Out – The Post-Finasteride Syndrome Foundation

www.pfsfoundation.org

“[Finasteride’s] potential side effects, especially the long-term side effects of the drug, should be the overriding concerns to both the users and the manufacturer… [Finasteride] has the capability to impair male sexual performance, creating the inability to achieve an erection, decreases libido and has the horrifying potential of causing specific birth defects in a developing male fetus.”

—Supposed Miracle Baldness Cure Creates Serious Health Concerns Among Hair Restoration Professionals: Business Wire, December 24, 1997

L. Lee Bosley, MD (1931-2016), Founder
Bosley, Inc.

Just fucking lol. even dr.bosley himself warned against Fin. THEY KNEW ABOUT PFS BACK IN 1997.

 

[Stare]

>muh placebo
Kys retard

Nice argument you dumb bigger

Dude, you realize Fin wasnt even developed to reduce hair loss but was meant for some other shit, that has to do with prostata or smth like that. Theyve just discovered that this shit also helped decrease DHT, which is the main reason for hair follicle shrinkage.

This is a medicine that messes with a mans dick primarily, I dont think that its unrealistic that some ppl have terrible sides from this fkn tranny drug created by hoooknoses.

Nah nigga, you are wrong in many different ways.
Finasteride was created with the purpose to reduce DHT since the beginning. DHT is directly related to prostate cancer and it's the most important molecule for prostate cancer development, the pharma industry created finasteride to treat prostate cancer and the mechanism in which finasteride does that is inhibiting DHT so lowering DHT has always been it's primary goal.
I don't deny that it messes with the dick, I took fin for a year and stopped because it fucked my erections. The thing is, I used to take 1mg everyday and this side effect only appeared around the 10th month. OP took 3,5mg total and claims it killed his libido JUST FUCKING LOL that didn't lower even 0,5% of his DHT

Goddamn, this forum is filled with low IQ retards who think they are smart.

 

[Deleted member 5061]

Nice argument you dumb bigger

Nah nigga, you are wrong in many different ways.
Finasteride was created with the purpose to reduce DHT since the beginning. DHT is directly related to prostate cancer and it's the most important molecule for prostate cancer development. It's true, finasteride was created to be a treatment for prostate cancer but it does that because it inhibits DHT, so lowering DHT has always been it's primary goal.
I don't deny that it messes with the dick, I took fin for a year and stopped because it fucked my erections. The thing is, I used to take 1mg everyday and this side effect only appeared around the 10th month. OP took 3,5mg total and claims it killed his libido JUST FUCKING LOL that didn't lower even 0,5% of his DHT

Goddamn, this forum is filled with low IQ retards who think they are smart.
Fuck this shit forum.

Dude everyones different. You cant compare yourself and your hormonal balance to someone else, esp. todays youth.

Most of them are way too estrogenic as it is, if you take away that little DHT that was in their bodies in the first place, I wouldnt be surprised if they get the sides after 3 weeks of usage.

Matter of fact is, if ones dick function takes a permanent hit in its function and you cant even enjoy slaying escorts or fapping to porn, its close to being over.

Having hair is not required to have orgasms, one can still slay escorts and/or get pretty insane orgasms from porn + fapping or using stuff like fleshlight. But having hair and having a semi-working weiner that cant get hard and or keep it hard, thats like being completely useless as a man.

 

[RecessedCel5]

Dn Rd

 

[Stare]

Dude everyones different. You cant compare yourself and your hormonal balance to someone else, esp. todays youth.

Most of them are way too estrogenic as it is, if you take away that little DHT that was in their bodies in the first place, I wouldnt be surprised if they get the sides after 3 weeks of usage.

Matter of fact is, if ones dick function takes a permanent hit in its function and you cant even enjoy slaying escorts or fapping to porn, its close to being over.

Having hair is not required to have orgasms, one can still slay escorts and/or get pretty insane orgasms from porn + fapping or using stuff like fleshlight. But having hair and having a semi-working weiner that cant get hard and or keep it hard, thats like being completely useless as a man.

That's not the point JFL
OP and pretty much everyone on this thread is retarded for thinking you can get post finasteride syndrome from just 3,5mg of finasteride.

 

[MentalistKebab]

>Muh NoFap benefits

Shit Thread confirmed. Dn rd past that baldingcuck

 

[Deleted member 5061]

That's not the point JFL
OP and pretty much everyone on this thread is retarded for thinking you can get post finasteride syndrome from just 3,5mg of finasteride.

I wouldnt rule it out tbh. And if you had negative experience with this shit yourself, I dont get why its so important to you to dismiss the claim that ppl can get sides after 3.5 mg. Does it even matter after how long he got the bad sides? I dont think it does when you both have negative sides in common from this garbage.

Besides that- he mightve had some hormonal imbalance at that point, or the fin kinda kickstarted it. Again it was over a period of 3 weeks accoding to him.

I think its fair enough to speak out a warning about this trash tranny drug.

 

[Schizoidcel]

DHT/5AR = hormone of the gods (mood, EQ, etc), too bad it indirectly reckts hairline of people with "weak" genes. We need better treatments for norwooding ASAP before it's too late. But people have been waiting for decades, and we're still using the same shitty treatments people used in the friggin' 90's. We need a virus that gives MPB to females en masse which will lead them to look for a real cure without crippling side effects.

I will cope with minoxidil+dermarolling+nizoral+hair fibers for now as even topical finasteride microdoses give me sides for days, but I also overanalyze every little thing so I notice changes to my body very easily. I also enjoy having 100% erection quality, wanting to fuck 24/7 (underrated for motivation) and actually not wanting to rope due to lowered neurosteroids (I'm already depressed suicidalcel baseline)

 

[EmilKing]

Having hair is not required to have orgasms, one can still slay escorts and/or get pretty insane orgasms from porn + fapping or using stuff like fleshlight. But having hair and having a semi-working weiner that cant get hard and or keep it hard, thats like being completely useless as a man.

Truly THE most brutal red/black pill i have read in a really long time

Im still hopefull that the side effects dont become COMPLETELY permanent. According to some of these guys , they have recovered back to 100% following a STRICT hormonal/diet/supplement balacing protocol after about 1-2 years.

Post Finasteride Syndrome

A Forum dedicated to those that have experience side effects from using Finastride and how to recover from them.

www.swolesource.com

 

[EmilKing]

DHT/5AR = hormone of the gods (mood, EQ, etc), too bad it indirectly reckts hairline of people with weak genes. We need better treatments for norwooding ASAP before it's too late. But people have been waiting for decades, we need to find a virus that gives MPB to females en masse which will lead them to look for a real cure without cripping side effects.

I will cope with minoxidil+dermarolling+nizoral as even topical finasteride microdoses give me sides for days, but I also overanalyze every little thing so I notice changes to my body very easily.

legit

 

[NorwoodMilitant]

Fucking hell lmao everyone needs to stop arguing about this shit. Finasteride will affect everyone differently. I’ve had mild sexual side effects from finasteride but I’ve noticed when I work out hard + eat clean my T is higher and I have no problems at all. If you eat like absolute shit and rot all day, ofc you’re more likely to get your sex drive nuked by fin

I know for a fact if I hadn’t of started finasteride, the effects of low confidence/self esteem and depression from losing such an important aspect of my image (my hair) would kill my sex drive and chances of having sex way more than a slight decrease in libido from reduction in DHT would

keep crying for fin

 

[Stare]

I wouldnt rule it out tbh. And if you had negative experience with this shit yourself, I dont get why its so important to you to dismiss the claim that ppl can get sides after 3.5 mg. Does it even matter after how long he got the bad sides? I dont think it does when you both have negative sides in common from this garbage.

Besides that- he mightve had some hormonal imbalance at that point, or the fin kinda kickstarted it. Again it was over a period of 3 weeks accoding to him.

I think its fair enough to speak out a warning about this trash tranny drug.

Yeah, how long people took the drug matters a lot.
Fin doesn't stop balding at once, it slowly lowers the DHT until it starts working. Most people will only stop balding around their 4th month of taking fin everyday, that's because the way finasteride lowers DHT is extremely slow, if someone only took finasteride for 3 days then there is absolutely no way it lowered the DHT by more than 0,5% of its initial value.
As I said, OP is having a giant placebo and you guys are contributing to this with broscience bullshit.

I don't advocate for fin, as I said I had side effects from it, I am just saying this is a placebo effect.

 

[Schizoidcel]

Nice argument you dumb bigger

Nah nigga, you are wrong in many different ways.
Finasteride was created with the purpose to reduce DHT since the beginning. DHT is directly related to prostate cancer and it's the most important molecule for prostate cancer development, the pharma industry created finasteride to treat prostate cancer and the mechanism in which finasteride does that is inhibiting DHT so lowering DHT has always been it's primary goal.
I don't deny that it messes with the dick, I took fin for a year and stopped because it fucked my erections. The thing is, I used to take 1mg everyday and this side effect only appeared around the 10th month. OP took 3,5mg total and claims it killed his libido JUST FUCKING LOL that didn't lower even 0,5% of his DHT

Goddamn, this forum is filled with low IQ retards who think they are smart.

"As a drug, finasteride actually begins working immediately, meaning it will have an effect on your body as soon as you metabolize the first pill. This means that you will have lower DHT levels as soon as the first dose of finasteride gets into your system."

It can take 5-14 days for hormone levels to come back to almost normal.

 

[Schnauser]

I believe this and don't believe it to be nocebo

 

[Stare]

"As a drug, finasteride actually begins working immediately, meaning it will have an effect on your body as soon as you metabolize the first pill. This means that you will have lower DHT levels as soon as the first dose of finasteride gets into your system."

It can take 5-14 days for hormone levels to come back to almost normal.

Low IQ post.
read my post above

 

[Schizoidcel]

Low IQ post.
read my post above

Not how it works. You need to KEEP DHT levels lowered for months (3-5 months+) due to how the hair cycle works (same for minoxidil). Your actual serum DHT levels are inhibited very rapidly from the first few pills as people who get side effects can attest, and it also builds up in your body long term.

"DHT makes your hair follicles shed hair more readily, which then reduces your overall amount of hair – because natural shedding outpaces natural growth.

Giving your hair follicles greater resistance to this process means that your overall amount of hair increases and the appearance of your hair improves.

Finasteride (brand name: Propecia) works as part of the natural cycle of shedding and growth, which means that it takes approximately three-to-six months for a visible difference in your hair to come about. Baby hairs and incremental change may appear before this, but for the majority of men, the maximum effect will be achieved in around 12 months."

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Jfl at not JhonnySinsMaxx just to save some hair and ending up castrated

Spoiler: Me rn

 

[Schizoidcel]

Spoiler: Me rn

View attachment 955148

I'd DHTmaxx ASAP if I looked like him bald, ngl

 

[EmilKing]

"As a drug, finasteride actually begins working immediately, meaning it will have an effect on your body as soon as you metabolize the first pill. This means that you will have lower DHT levels as soon as the first dose of finasteride gets into your system."

This.

“Finasteride produces a rapid reduction in serum DHT concentration, reaching upto 65% suppression within 24 hours of oral dosing with a 1-mg tablet.”

@Stare you clearly havent done proper research. Next time dig a little deeper before you claim random shit

 

[EmilKing]

Fucking hell lmao everyone needs to stop arguing about this shit. Finasteride will affect everyone differently. I’ve had mild sexual side effects from finasteride but I’ve noticed when I work out hard + eat clean my T is higher and I have no problems at all. If you eat like absolute shit and rot all day, ofc you’re more likely to get your sex drive nuked by fin

I know for a fact if I hadn’t of started finasteride, the effects of low confidence/self esteem and depression from losing such an important aspect of my image (my hair) would kill my sex drive and chances of having sex way more than a slight decrease in libido from reduction in DHT would

keep crying for fin

Kind of a hopeful post i guess. My current goal is to absolutely T / lifestyle max in anyway possible

 

[Deleted member 5061]

This.

@Stare you clearly havent done proper research. Next time dig a little deeper before you claim random shit

Just another proof that usually people who claim:

OP and pretty much everyone on this thread is retarded for thinking you can get post finasteride syndrome from just 3,5mg of finasteride.

Goddamn, this forum is filled with low IQ retards who think they are smart.

Are the real degenerates in reality.

The rule of thumb- if one thinks one is right and everyone else is wrong and a dumb retard, 9.9999999~ out of 10 times one is the actual retard.

 

[Deleted member 6512]

Just another proof that usually people who claim:





Are the real degenerates in reality.

The rule of thumb- if one thinks one is right and everyone else is wrong and a dumb retard, 9.9999999~ out of 10 times one is the actual retard.

Imagine nuking your hormones and thinking It doesn't have any effect on your mind and body

 

[TITUS]

Popping fin pills like candy, i got a fucked up side effect though -> better hair density.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Most people don't get sides, you can't deny that.

And it is possible to placebo oneself on to ED, it has been shown multiple times on experiments. Sometimes the placebo group will get MORE side effects that the group that took the actual finasteride pill.

 

[OOGABOOGA]

Not how it works. You need to KEEP DHT levels lowered for months (3-5 months+) due to how the hair cycle works (same for minoxidil). Your actual serum DHT levels are inhibited very rapidly from the first few pills as people who get side effects can attest, and it also builds up in your body long term.

"DHT makes your hair follicles shed hair more readily, which then reduces your overall amount of hair – because natural shedding outpaces natural growth.

Giving your hair follicles greater resistance to this process means that your overall amount of hair increases and the appearance of your hair improves.

Finasteride (brand name: Propecia) works as part of the natural cycle of shedding and growth, which means that it takes approximately three-to-six months for a visible difference in your hair to come about. Baby hairs and incremental change may appear before this, but for the majority of men, the maximum effect will be achieved in around 12 months."

I’ve been on fin 1-2 months. Slight decrease in libido but worth saving my hair. My concern though is that my libido might become more impacted by fin over time. You seem to know this shit so whatchu think. If I’m fine after this long should I be fine long term?

 

[Michael]

you have shitty genes then
I am taking fin for third year and no sides

 

[EmilKing]

Most people don't get sides, you can't deny that.

And it is possible to placebo oneself on to ED, it has been shown multiple times on experiments. Sometimes the placebo group will get MORE side effects that the group that took the actual finasteride pill.

you dont understand,.
I fully agree that ED is 100% something that one can nocebo themselves into. Absolutely.

The issue is , ED as it relates to morning wood, penis de-sensitivity and erection quality sides CANNOT be nocebo'd into.
Androgens are purely what is responsible to control these.

EDIT: forgot to mention watery semen, and lack of wet dreams/sexual dreams as well

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

bald

 

[SOS-Sonic]

you dont understand,.
I fully agree that ED is 100% something that one can nocebo themselves into. Absolutely.

The issue is , ED as it relates to morning wood, penis de-sensitivity and erection quality sides CANNOT be nocebo'd into.
Androgens are purely what is responsible to control these.

EDIT: forgot to mention watery semen, and lack of wet dreams/sexual dreams as well

I have never seen any studies pertaining to "watery semen, wet dreams and penis-sensitivity", most studies are done on erection qualities. Can you link them for me if you have the source?

 

[Saen]

Why do you think that ED as it relates to morning wood can't be nocebo'd into?

 

[MewingJBP]

that's because you're low t

you need to start roiding or at least trt

guys on test and fin don't get sexual sides

 

[Deleted member 5061]

I have never seen any studies pertaining to "watery semen, wet dreams and penis-sensitivity", most studies are done on erection qualities. Can you link them for me if you have the source?

Quit being so fkn gullible all the time and believing the fkn studies. Most of the time the studies are finances by the companies that sell those fkn products either directly or indirectly and theres alot of cherrypicking going on what the study researches are focusing on.

Theres literally almost zero independent studies out there, when it comes to pharma products, food etc.

In the food industry, esp. dairy and meat industry, almost all studies are fkn giga cherrypicked and financed by the food lobbies. Wake the fuck up, studies of pharma products mean shit for the most part.

If you dont belive- there are many documentaries, videos about how the studies are giga cherrypicked and flawed, look them up yourself and fkn learn.

 

[Schizoidcel]

I’ve been on fin 1-2 months. Slight decrease in libido but worth saving my hair. My concern though is that my libido might become more impacted by fin over time. You seem to know this shit so whatchu think. If I’m fine after this long should I be fine long term?

Some people only get noticeable side effects after years on the drug as they get older and their androgen profile/sensitivities change like testosterone dropping which cannot pick up the slack anymore, or estrogen rising which could end up in gyno while on finasteride, etc. But if you're doing fine there's no reason to change things & panic though. Only a slight libido decrease is probably worth it to keep hair for most men.

 

[jfcage]

Everyone should raise their T level via gymcelling before hopping on fin. Then you will be probably safe.

 

[SOS-Sonic]

Quit being so fkn gullible all the time and believing the fkn studies. Most of the time the studies are finances by the companies that sell those fkn products either directly or indirectly and theres alot of cherrypicking going on what the study researches are focusing on.

Theres literally almost zero independent studies out there, when it comes to pharma products, food etc.

In the food industry, esp. dairy and meat industry, almost all studies are fkn giga cherrypicked and financed by the food lobbies. Wake the fuck up, studies of pharma products mean shit for the most part.

If you dont belive- there are many documentaries, videos about how the studies are giga cherrypicked and flawed, look them up yourself and fkn learn.

So I should believe people on the internet over studies?

If you don't mind, can you link some studies that are "cherrypicked and flawed"?

And chill out dude.

 

[Deleted member 5061]

So I should believe people on the internet over studies?

If you don't mind, can you link some studies that are "cherrypicked and flawed"?

And chill out dude.

No you shouldnt, but you also shouldnt base your decisions solely on studies. Studies and researches cost tons of money, the state doesnt pay for it. There are no fully 100% independent studies. Who has biggest interest in studies? Companies that sell those products, because if the studies completely destroy the product with tons of negative sideeffects, companies will lose profit. Hence why they have intereset to have a "say" in those studies by co-financing or fully financing them.

You could watch this for example, just scroll through it at the very least

 

[OOGABOOGA]

Some people only get noticeable side effects after years on the drug as they get older and their androgen profile/sensitivities change like testosterone dropping which cannot pick up the slack anymore, or estrogen rising which could end up in gyno while on finasteride, etc. But if you're doing fine there's no reason to change things & panic though. Only a slight libido decrease is probably worth it to keep hair for most men.

Yeah my family has dht out the ass. My little bro had a full ass beard at 15-16 and was balding at 17. Risk I gotta take bc hair is life no cap

 

[EmilKing]

Bump, 2 months off Fin, 1 month off Min

I have zero urge to masturabate anymore. I have no libido and no "visual libido" whatsoever. (cannot get hard without physical touch).
I barely have any sensitivity. I have done multiple 1-2 NoFaps and I feel ZERO effects. this wasnt the case pre-fin.

I fucking hate this shit. Why did I take this poison.

Why didnt I listen to @DatGuyYouLike

This is no way to live