Should I pin test, and then hcg pct?

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if so then how much of each? i think around 250mg test but idk for hcg

and how long should cycles be
 
What’s the goal of this ? Also age?
 
Dunno much about steroids besides the underrated negative side effects of it but this question depends on your goal's because genetics' play a huge role in bodybuilding or strength training.
 
I'll say this again
If you wanna roid then blast and cruise
Pct is a meme won't work and would be a waste of cycle and you'll end up losing 50-70% gains you made I have seen this happen.
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5.5psl said:
I'll say this again
If you wanna roid then blast and cruise
Pct is a meme won't work and would be a waste of cycle and you'll end up losing 50-70% gains you made I have seen this happen.
@Orc
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Is trt cruise and hgh good?
 
5.5psl said:
I'll say this again
If you wanna roid then blast and cruise
Pct is a meme won't work and would be a waste of cycle and you'll end up losing 50-70% gains you made I have seen this happen.
@Orc
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Isn't it still a lose lose situation because the 1000 hair follicles of hair you had on your head starts to decrease, Aswell as the not yet dead but dying organs ?
 
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thw7 said:
Increase test and muscle, also frame growth, im young enough that it should work
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test doesnt help grow clavicles, that has more to do with genetics. Also muscle's wont save you because the dating market is oversatured with gymcels that they've become nothing special or attractive to females, if your not already good looking and tall just give up, your wasting your time on something males find attractive. girls dont give two shits about your muscles unless you were already good looking to begin with.
 
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Bonesbonesbonesbone said:
test doesnt help grow clavicles, that has more to do with genetics. Also muscle's wont save you because the dating market is oversatured with gymcels that they've become nothing special or attractive to females, if your not already good looking and tall just give up, your wasting your time on something males find attractive. girls dont give two shits about your muscles unless you were already good looking to begin with.
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But I’ve heard test is for clavicle growth and normal estrogen makes hips less wide?
 
rawprimal said:
500mg test e blasting will work for dimorphism and frame ? It will be taken with 6-12 ius of hgh
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no, hgh only produce's androgen receptors to be more responsive to the clavicles because it is one of the most androgenic bones (dimorphism), but this is not direct relation to it causing it to grow , only merely giving the direction for growth which is not garunteed.
 
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rawprimal said:
But I’ve heard test is for clavicle growth and normal estrogen makes hips less wide?
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those who have wide hips to begin with just amplify their wide hips with body fat to begin with.
 
Bonesbonesbonesbone said:
Dunno much about steroids besides the underrated negative side effects of it but this question depends on your goal's because genetics' play a huge role in bodybuilding or strength training.
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Dont want bodybuilder physique, just a lean athletic build
rawprimal said:
Did u test testosterone?
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its low. 450ng/dl
Bonesbonesbonesbone said:
test doesnt help grow clavicles, that has more to do with genetics. Also muscle's wont save you because the dating market is oversatured with gymcels that they've become nothing special or attractive to females, if your not already good looking and tall just give up, your wasting your time on something males find attractive. girls dont give two shits about your muscles unless you were already good looking to begin with.
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nah the main goal is increasing testosterone so idc
 
thw7 said:
Dont want bodybuilder physique, just a lean athletic build

its low. 450ng/dl

nah the main goal is increasing testosterone so idc
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ok you just told me 2 different goals, you want a lean athletic physique thats possible attainable naturally within 5-6 years. and then u want to increase test for what reason ?
 
Bonesbonesbonesbone said:
ok you just told me 2 different goals, you want a lean athletic physique thats possible attainable naturally within 5-6 years. and then u want to increase test for what reason ?
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because of everything tbh. i lack dimorphism, muscle, energy, my dick doesnt work, so on. im still very young in the sense that i should experience change
 
thw7 said:
because of everything tbh. i lack dimorphism, muscle, energy, my dick doesnt work, so on. im still very young in the sense that i should experience change
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damn, that means ur naturally a incel, so that would mean you would go from incel, to roided incel. i see not much difference from a mental perspective.
 
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damn, that means ur naturally a incel, so that would mean you would go from incel, to roided incel. i see not much difference from a mental perspective.
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He’s young he should eat a lot of meat , eggs and raw milk and quit his bad habit
 
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rawprimal said:
He’s young he should eat a lot of meat , eggs and raw milk and quit his bad habit
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wont workunless he had the chad genes to begin with.
 
Bonesbonesbonesbone said:
damn, that means ur naturally a incel, so that would mean you would go from incel, to roided incel. i see not much difference from a mental perspective.
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Jfl at this depressive mindset, simply an increase in testosterone would solve most of my problems
 
thw7 said:
Jfl at this depressive mindset, simply an increase in testosterone would solve most of my problems
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not depressive, why get up when your dick cant get up ?
 
thw7 said:
Jfl at this depressive mindset, simply an increase in testosterone would solve most of my problems
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Talk to a doctor if u think low test is affecting you in a bad way I’m talking to one right now I’m gonna start pinning needles . But always with doctor supervision you don’t want to end up looking 90 in your 20’s like Tren twins
 
rawprimal said:
Talk to a doctor if u think low test is affecting you in a bad way I’m talking to one right now I’m gonna start pinning needles . But always with doctor supervision you don’t want to end up looking 90 in your 20’s like Tren twins
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Yeah thanks bro! Good luck
 
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250mg test wont do shit i would still consider that amount being natty because its low as fuck
 
5.5psl said:
I'll say this again
If you wanna roid then blast and cruise
Pct is a meme won't work and would be a waste of cycle and you'll end up losing 50-70% gains you made I have seen this happen.
@Orc
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read the haarlem study, pct does nothing.

and this is the only large scale study on the subject.


Bonesbonesbonesbone said:
dude trt is lower dose then your normal/natural test production lol.
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average man produces about 30-50mg of test a week.

the absolute highest test man naturally around 70.
 
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read the haarlem study, pct does nothing.

and this is the only large scale study on the subject.



average man produces about 30-50mg of test a week.

the absolute highest test man naturally around 70.
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How is he saying 300mg is low? He wants me to inject 2000mg and get heart attack?
 
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