Steinbacher’s reply re:Orbital Box Osteotomy

[Deleted member 28768]

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Life-fuel tbh. IPD shouldn't be unfixable in our day and age it's such a common problem. IDK how good the sub-cranial looks though there aren't a lot of examples of it and it neglects the upper orbit. You'd be gambling quite a bit getting this done.

 

[Whatashame]

Life-fuel tbh. IPD shouldn't be unfixable in our day and age it's such a common problem. IDK how good the sub-cranial looks though there aren't a lot of examples of it and it neglects the upper orbit. You'd be gambling quite a bit getting this done.

caused by a small intermollar distance. It shouldnt even happen.

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

caused by a small intermollar distance. It shouldnt even happen.

I don't think so. Sean O pry has good IPD with a narrow palate. and MSE and SARPE won't increase your IPD that much (maybe 1mm)

I've seen people with large pallets and narrow-ish IPD.

I think it's multi-factorial.

 

[Whatashame]

I don't think so. Sean O pry has good IPD with a narrow palate. and MSE and SARPE won't increase your IPD that much (maybe 1mm)

I've seen people with large pallets and narrow-ish IPD.

I think it's multi-factorial.

its not the only cause but there r several studies that show the relation. The problem is that by pics u cant evaluate their intermollar diatances because u cant see their mollar and the parameters can be tricky

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

its not the only cause but there r several studies that show the relation. The problem is that by pics u cant evaluate their intermollar diatances because u cant see their mollar and the parameters can be tricky

Yes it's probably related to a deficiency in overall anterior facial horizontal growth.

Either way it's a genetic problem I believe. I don't know if you're trying to imply that it's related to chewing and modern foods or whatever (correct me if you are not) but if you look at a lot of people they get it from their parents.

 

[Deleted member 28768]

Life-fuel tbh. IPD shouldn't be unfixable in our day and age it's such a common problem. IDK how good the sub-cranial looks though there aren't a lot of examples of it and it neglects the upper orbit. You'd be gambling quite a bit getting this done.

Agreed, very hard to assess the benefits of the surgery given the dearth of non syndromic examples. My hope is that as people become more educated on the importance of IPD that surgeons start refining OBO techniques to profit off of increased demand. Maybe I can fix my IPD in old age

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Agreed, very hard to assess the benefits of the surgery given the dearth of non syndromic examples. My hope is that as people become more educated on the importance of IPD that surgeons start refining OBO techniques to profit off of increased demand. Maybe I can fix my IPD in old age

You should consult with @RealSurgerymax he is very well versed in this procedure if it interests you.

 

[dough]

just have your brain removed

and have one of the most barbaric surgeries possible just to increase your ipd bro

 

[Deleted member 24002]

just have your brain removed

and have one of the most barbaric surgeries possible just to increase your ipd bro

Serious discussion of OBO, LL, and Le Fort 3 is so stupid.

 

[Whatashame]

Serious discussion of OBO, LL, and Le Fort 3 is so stupid.

many people do LL

 

[Whatashame]

Yes it's probably related to a deficiency in overall anterior facial horizontal growth.

Either way it's a genetic problem I believe. I don't know if you're trying to imply that it's related to chewing and modern foods or whatever (correct me if you are not) but if you look at a lot of people they get it from their parents.

Genetic is a predisposition, if everyone had the correct environment in some generations everyone would look good, there will be the ones that are most the others, but not with such a discrepancy. Nowadays, when almost everyone has this shit environment, what makes someone gl is how adapted the genes are to it.

 

[Deleted member 24444]

Serious discussion of OBO, LL, and Le Fort 3 is so stupid.

Cope I need modified oblique lefort 3

 

[Deleted member 24002]

many people do LL

Doesn’t mean you should pay all that, take a year off from working (losing the $ from a years wages) and all that pain and recovery for 3 inches.

 

[Whatashame]

Doesn’t mean you should pay all that, take a year off from working (losing the $ from a years wages) and all that pain and recovery for 3 inches.

but if the person wants to do he needs to seriously discuss it, and for example ppl who work from home dont have this problem

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Doesn’t mean you should pay all that, take a year off from working (losing the $ from a years wages) and all that pain and recovery for 3 inches.

Worth it if you are a manlet. I do agree LL sucks a bit rn but it might get better in the future.

 

[Squirtoutmabooty]

just have your brain removed

and have one of the most barbaric surgeries possible just to increase your ipd bro

Subcranial nigga can you read

 

[lasnt]

Serious discussion of OBO, LL, and Le Fort 3 is so stupid.

LL is legit it become mainstream and alot of technologies upcoming unlike OBO , lefort 3 it's like hidden ancient treatments done by elderly surgeon in mexico

 

[Deleted member 16683]

is obo only worth it if u hve narrow ipd

 

[Squirtoutmabooty]

is obo only worth it if u hve narrow ipd

Yes

 

[Deleted member 16683]

Yes

i have wide ipd i think with cantho for wider pfl it would balance it out tho

 

[Squirtoutmabooty]

i have wide ipd i think with cantho for wider pfl it would balance it out tho

Can canthoplasty do that?
I know lateral z-osteotomy does for sure but I only know of a few who’ll do it

 

[Deleted member 16683]

Can canthoplasty do that?
I know lateral z-osteotomy does for sure but I only know of a few who’ll do it

i'm not completely sure but i think it can. i don't see why it wouldn't be possible. either eay i need supras and infras first but i don't mind the wide ipd look. i think it's unique and as long as i fix my other failos it shouldn't be a problem

 

[thecel]

Serious discussion of OBO, LL, and Le Fort 3 is so stupid.

LL is a relatively common surgery these days and will only grow more popular.

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

LL is a relatively common surgery these days and will only grow more popular.

We were born too early. In 10-15 years they will have perfected LL probably. It's already much better than it was 10 years ago.

 

[MentalistKebab]

Doesn’t mean you should pay all that, take a year off from working (losing the $ from a years wages) and all that pain and recovery for 3 inches.

Worth it for 4 inches (4cm tibia and 6cm femur) if you are below 5'11

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Your name is Elizabeth?

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Wtf that nigga always ignored me.
Probably charges jewish prices but if it's under $30k I'm interested