Steroid side effects are over exaggerated and largely jew propaganda

[roids]

Listen, as someone who has been on a perpetual blast of 500 mg test for 1.5 years with occasional tren, superdrol, winstrol, etc mixed in, i firmly believe that steroid side effects are grossly over exaggerated and only happen to those who are too low iq to take precautions. Keep in mind i started roiding at 16. My growth plates didnt close(5'10 to 6'2), never got ogre face, never got acne, no hair loss, literally no health issues (multiple blood tests confirm this). All because I managed the sides before they happened. Arimidex, minoxidil/rosemary/dermastamp, cialis for blood pressure, no dosages above 500 mg test, no permabulking so no bloat.

if you are too scared to hop on youve been misled by jewish propaganda to keep you a small sub5 JFL

 

[NorwoodAscender]

not just steroids, everythings side effects are over-exaggerated

 

[roids]

not just steroids, everythings side effects are over-exaggerated

high iq. people here are scared to buy volufiline JFL

 

[hytt]

Yeah no side effects it just so happens that now you look like a 35 year old man

 

[gooner23]

high iq. people here are scared to buy volufiline JFL

but has there been any proof that volufiline actually works never been convinced with either, better to not take perscription drugs in general, people say fin and dutasteride sides are overexaggerated i think otherwise

 

[roids]

but has there been any proof that volufiline actually works never been convinced with either, better to not take perscription drugs in general, people say fin and dutasteride sides are overexaggerated i think otherwise

stay high inhib so i can have more stacys to myself bhai

 

[NorwoodAscender]

high iq. people here are scared to buy volufiline JFL

fr absolute insanity how high inhib people are here abt side effects. im getting up there in trying all known softmaxxes and havent had a single fucking side effect yet.

 

[roids]

Yeah no side effects it just so happens that now you look like a 35 year old man

JFL i def look 35

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Cope roid users age terribly
All grey and wrinkled by mid 30s

 

[NorwoodAscender]

but has there been any proof that volufiline actually works never been convinced with either, better to not take perscription drugs in general, people say fin and dutasteride sides are overexaggerated i think otherwise

ive noticed improvement

 

[roids]

fr absolute insanity how high inhib people are here abt side effects. im getting up there in trying all known softmaxxes and havent had a single fucking side effect yet.

same bro, i have like 50 supplements on my desk rn with more obscure skincare products and ive ordered lemon bottle to inject into my cheeks. why use this site if you arent willing to do what it takes to ascend and live an enjoyable life

 

[roids]

Cope roid users age terribly
All grey and wrinkled by mid 30s

0 knowledge, look at david laid he is 26 been blasting for 12 years and he looks like a 20 year old.

 

[hytt]

JFL i def look 35

Of course you do nigga you used roids they aged you now you lost your youth. Get fucked

 

[roids]

Of course you do nigga you used roids they aged you now you lost your youth. Get fucked

i have my face posted on my profile, i literally look like im 16 at 18

 

[ConfusedBolivian]

Listen, as someone who has been on a perpetual blast of 500 mg test for 1.5 years with occasional tren, superdrol, winstrol, etc mixed in, i firmly believe that steroid side effects are grossly over exaggerated and only happen to those who are too low iq to take precautions. Keep in mind i started roiding at 16. My growth plates didnt close(5'10 to 6'2), never got ogre face, never got acne, no hair loss, literally no health issues (multiple blood tests confirm this). All because I managed the sides before they happened. Arimidex, minoxidil/rosemary/dermastamp, cialis for blood pressure, no dosages above 500 mg test, no permabulking so no bloat.

if you are too scared to hop on youve been misled by jewish propaganda to keep you a small sub5 JFL

Shut the fuck up retard

 

[autistic_tendencies]

0 knowledge, look at david laid he is 26 been blasting for 12 years and he looks like a 20 year old.

He’s norwooding hard you dumb coper

 

[roids]

He’s norwooding hard you dumb coper

because he never used min + rosemary until 22, he said he started late. I started before my cycle and i GREW hair

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

sounds like gaslighting, show proof or larp and steroids side effects are long term more than it is short term. 1.5 years on gear is nothing, wait for a decade and come back with your anecdote.

 

[roids]

Shut the fuck up retard

jfl stay ltn forever bhai

 

[hytt]

i have my face posted on my profile, i literally look like im 16 at 18

you aren't this fat boy on your pfp, he looks younger than 16. he looks 10-13

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

stay high inhib so i can have more stacys to myself bhai

You wouldn’t be here if you could get stacie’s in the first place.

 

[roids]

sounds like gaslighting, show proof or larp and steroids side effects are long term more than it is short term. 1.5 years on gear is nothing, wait for a decade and come back with your anecdote.

why would i stay on for a decade, i pubertymax and take HCG + enclo to PCT my balls back. Look on my profile for proof

 

[ElTruecel]

True. Plus your reaction to roids is genetic anyways however being a natty is a scam unless ur genetics or discipline is top tier

 

[roids]

You wouldn’t be here if you could get stacie’s in the first place.

i will be soon when my cut is over bhai ab to mog the beaches of socal walking around like david laid

 

[roids]

True. Plus your reaction to roids is genetic anyways however being a natty is a scam unless ur genetics or discipline is top tier

being natty is a scam ALWAYS unless you have never been exposed to modern pollution and goyslop

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

why would i stay on for a decade, i pubertymax and take HCG + enclo to PCT my balls back. Look on my profile for proof

No, once your off cycle you lose some- most of your gains.

 

[gooner23]

why would i stay on for a decade, i pubertymax and take HCG + enclo to PCT my balls back. Look on my profile for proof

kinda shows you have no idea what your talking about damn

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

i will be soon when my cut is over bhai ab to mog the beaches of socal walking around like david laid

Do what you want, just be aware of what your doing

 

[PedroFavelinha]

You wouldn’t be here if you could get stacie’s in the first place

 

[Kristin]

there's different types of steroids depending on the strength and side effects too

everyone is acting like you will go bald and develop severe acne on a low dose of test just because high doses of tren do that jfl

there is a healthy middle path for most people which is just take weak roids and be perfectly fine

 

[roids]

you aren't this fat boy on your pfp, he looks younger than 16. he looks 10-13

room temp iq

 

[Kristin]

you aren't this fat boy on your pfp, he looks younger than 16. he looks 10-13

bruh you did not just say that

 

[crestfallen]

Your individual response to steroids is going to depend on your body. I'm on 400 test/25 anavar at the moment, my acne is brutal. My hair hasn't fallen out but I'm on Finasteride anyway, I am definitely more prone to bloating now but if I eat clean it's fine, no gyno or anything at all

The thing to really consider is your cholesterol and blood pressure, I'm prone to high LDL and I take a drug to manage it now. I take cialis to manage blood pressure and for pumps, but I've just bought Clenbuterol for cutting so I'll be dropping that soon.

My theory is more that whatever happens to you during puberty will just happen more, like I got pretty bad acne for a long time so to be honest I expected it.

I'm an advocate of researched and safe steroid use, but you need to go into this with your eyes open. Don't jump on tren just because it's a meme, use test with an oral that doesn't give brutal sides like tbol or anavar. See how you react to it, take ancillaries before it becomes a disaster or lower your dose. Please also don't think that orals are weak - tbol isnt the strongest but Anavar puts lean mass on you like nothing else.

 

[Achilles]

Dude is on a ridicualous amount of supplements and hormones for life and thinks this shit is okay lol

 

[crestfallen]

Dude is on a ridicualous amount of supplements and hormones for life and thinks this shit is okay lol

The only thing you actually become dependant on is test. Because if you stop, your HPTA is turned off and your body won't make it without being signalled to by another drug or like 6 months elapsing.

You take other shit because you don't want to get long term issues from your blast. Taking 150-200mg of test is reasonably safe

 

[Achilles]

The only thing you actually become dependant on is test. Because if you stop, your HPTA is turned off and your body won't make it without being signalled to by another drug or like 6 months elapsing.

You take other shit because you don't want to get long term issues from your blast. Taking 150-200mg of test is reasonably safe

your biological system and hormones are a lot more advanced and dont work the same as injections and popping pills. None of this stuff is safe or sustainable. If you can use dugs and hormones to recover and heal afterwards is your only option but you will not be healthy using this crap long term. Also doing this shit as a kid is crazy. Legit playing russian roulette with outcomes and fucking up your natural growth

 

[logicel369]

Listen, as someone who has been on a perpetual blast of 500 mg test for 1.5 years with occasional tren, superdrol, winstrol, etc mixed in, i firmly believe that steroid side effects are grossly over exaggerated and only happen to those who are too low iq to take precautions. Keep in mind i started roiding at 16. My growth plates didnt close(5'10 to 6'2), never got ogre face, never got acne, no hair loss, literally no health issues (multiple blood tests confirm this). All because I managed the sides before they happened. Arimidex, minoxidil/rosemary/dermastamp, cialis for blood pressure, no dosages above 500 mg test, no permabulking so no bloat.

if you are too scared to hop on youve been misled by jewish propaganda to keep you a small sub5 JFL

for me its not about the side effects, more about what happens after you stop

 

[JCaesar]

Dude is on a ridicualous amount of supplements and hormones for life and thinks this shit is okay lol

What's the problem with supplements jfl

Most people should be using them nowadays anyway

 

[Achilles]

What's the problem with supplements jfl

Quality control, you dont even know if they are legit or whatever else junk chemicals and filler shit are added to them. Also why woud you want to supplement something for life

 

[crestfallen]

your biological system and hormones are a lot more advanced and dont work the same as injections and popping pills. None of this stuff is safe or sustainable. If you can use dugs and hormones to recover and heal afterwards is your only option but you will not be healthy using this crap long term. Also doing this shit as a kid is crazy. Legit playing russian roulette with outcomes and fucking up your natural growth

Dude, you flat out don't know what you're talking about.

By taking testosterone, you are replacing your natural production of a hormone exogenously with the same hormone. It is literally the same thing in an injectible ester, a cypionate or enthanate. If you take too much, you get the side effects of having high testosterone, if you take too little you have the side effects from low testosterone.

When it comes to your other steroids, many of them are researched and used in clinical applications at higher levels than what bodybuilders even use - I don't know why the fuck you would ever use 2000mg of anadrol but hey, you can get prescribed that in the US.

You don't even know why it's not healthy, you're just spouting shit because you like moralising.

 

[JCaesar]

Quality control, you dont even know if they are legit or whatever else junk chemicals and filler shit are added to them. Also why woud you want to supplement something for life

Supplements don't make you dependent on them wdym?

Also it's true the extraction process can be harsh on some brands especially the cheaper ones, but I don't get what you're talking about when you say junk chemicals and filler shit lol. If you get something from a good brand like Life Extension you shouldn't have to worry much

 

[Azonin]

"StEroIdS ArnT a bG DeEL"

 

[Achilles]

Dude, you flat out don't know what you're talking about.

By taking testosterone, you are replacing your natural production of a hormone exogenously with the same hormone. It is literally the same thing in an injectible ester, a cypionate or enthanate. If you take too much, you get the side effects of having high testosterone, if you take too little you have the side effects from low testosterone.

When it comes to your other steroids, many of them are researched and used in clinical applications at higher levels than what bodybuilders even use - I don't know why the fuck you would ever use 2000mg of anadrol but hey, you can get prescribed that in the US.

You don't even know why it's not healthy, you're just spouting shit because you like moralising.

lmao sure thing bozo. you dont even understand how natural test fluctuates vs how injectable test (legit the worst possible form) just keeps you elevated test 24/7 (completely unnatural)
why dont you do research beyond surface level bullshit from retarded gymbros on the first cycle

and what are the "side effects" of high T lol? you mean when it converts to estrogen right

 

[Achilles]

Supplements don't make you dependent on them wdym?

Also it's true the extraction process can be harsh on some brands especially the cheaper ones, but I don't get what you're talking about when you say junk chemicals and filler shit lol. If you get something from a good brand like Life Extension you shouldn't have to worry much

So if the supplement is short term then what happens when youre off it? Liek it depends on what the supplement is used for... is it gonna fix or heal something? The its useful. If its just an experiment then thats all it is. Like thats what supplements should be, short term experimental not a for life thing. Most steroids are a for life thing basically

shit like silicon dioxide is a filler ingredient (litterarly crushed up glass)
magnesium sterate is a filler and machine lubricant
just post a supplement you take and show me the ingredients list

 

[crestfallen]

lmao sure thing bozo. you dont even understand how natural test fluctuates vs how injectable test (legit the worst possible form) just keeps you elevated test 24/7 (completely unnatural)
why dont you do research beyond surface level bullshit from retarded gymbros on the first cycle

and what are the "side effects" of high T lol? you mean when it converts to estrogen right

Yeah, I mean test generally pulses every 6 hours or so from memory, and having an unnaturally high test when you inject is going to necessarily be steroidal in nature, virtually halving your HDL and putting you at risk of atherosclerosis even just on TRT doses. Take a statin and ezetimibe.

When I talk about high t, I'm talking everything downstream of that too because it's impossible to necessarily point out everything that could mean without looking at an individual's bloodwork and considering their individual response - I could have high t but feel mostly high estrogen sides, or I could have high t and feel completely fine

 

[KevinDurder]

Listen, as someone who has been on a perpetual blast of 500 mg test for 1.5 years with occasional tren, superdrol, winstrol, etc mixed in, i firmly believe that steroid side effects are grossly over exaggerated and only happen to those who are too low iq to take precautions. Keep in mind i started roiding at 16. My growth plates didnt close(5'10 to 6'2), never got ogre face, never got acne, no hair loss, literally no health issues (multiple blood tests confirm this). All because I managed the sides before they happened. Arimidex, minoxidil/rosemary/dermastamp, cialis for blood pressure, no dosages above 500 mg test, no permabulking so no bloat.

if you are too scared to hop on youve been misled by jewish propaganda to keep you a small sub5 JFL

JFL AT THIS COPING MONKEY STAY NATTY BOYS

 

[JCaesar]

So if the supplement is short term then what happens when youre off it?

Nothing should, although your body may have less material to work with since you stopped feeding it properly

The its useful. If its just an experiment then thats all it is. Like thats what supplements should be, short term experimental not a for life thing.

How is it bad to supplement things like K2, D3, magnesium, zinc, etc for life? Most people are deficient in them and don't even know

just post a supplement you take and show me the ingredients list

If you wanna look at this multivitamin, reputable brand and is supposed to cover most stuff

Spoiler: Contents

Amount Per Serving
Vitamin A (as beta-carotene, acetate) (5,000 IU)	1500 mcgˆ​
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid, calcium and niacinamide ascorbates)	470 mg​
Vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol) (2,000 IU)	50 mcg​
Vitamin E (as D-alpha tocopheryl succinate, D-alpha tocopherol)	67 mg​
Thiamine (vitamin B1) (as thiamine HCI)	75 mg​
Riboflavin (vitamin B2) (as riboflavin, riboflavin 5’-phosphate)	50 mg​
Niacin (as niacinamide, niacinamide ascorbate)	50 mg•​
Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCI, pyridoxal 5’-phosphate)	75 mg​
Folate (as L-5-methyltetrahydrofolate calcium salt)	680 mcg°​
Vitamin B12 (as methylcobalamin)	300 mcg​
Biotin	300 mcg​
Pantothenic acid (as D-calcium pantothenate)	50 mg​
Iodine (as potassium iodide)	150 mcg​
Magnesium (as magnesium oxide)	100 mg​
Zinc (as zinc citrate, L-OptiZinc® zinc mono-L-methionine sulfate)	25 mg​
Selenium [as sodium selenite, SelenoExcell® high selenium yeast, Se-methyl L-selenocysteine]	200 mcg​
Manganese (as manganese citrate, gluconate)	2 mg​
Chromium [as Crominex® 3+ chromium stabilized with Capros® amla extract (fruit), PrimaVie® Shilajit]	200 mcg​
Molybdenum (as molybdenum amino acid chelate)	100 mcg​
Inositol	50 mg​
Alpha lipoic acid	25 mg​
Natural mixed tocopherols (providing gamma, delta, alpha, beta)	20 mg​
Bio-Quercetin® Proprietary Blend providing 35% quercetin (5 mg) [from Japanese sophora concentrate (flower bud)], 30% galactomannans (4 mg) [from fenugreek (seed)]	14 mg​
Marigold extract (Tagetes erecta) (flower) [std. to 5 mg trans-lutein, 155 mcg trans-zeaxanthin]	11.12 mg​
Apigenin	5 mg​
Boron (as boron amino acid chelate)	3 mg​
Lycopene [from LycoBeads ® natural tomato extract (fruit)]	1 mg​
Other ingredients: vegetable cellulose (capsule), dicalcium phosphate, food starch-modified, silica, vegetable stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, maltodextrin, sunflower lecithin, sunflower oil.

 

[Achilles]

Nothing should, although your body may have less material to work with since you stopped feeding it properly

How is it bad to supplement things like K2, D3, magnesium, zinc, etc for life? Most people are deficient in them and don't even know


If you wanna look at this multivitamin, reputable brand and is supposed to cover most stuff

Spoiler: Contents

Amount Per Serving
Vitamin A (as beta-carotene, acetate) (5,000 IU)	1500 mcgˆ​
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid, calcium and niacinamide ascorbates)	470 mg​
Vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol) (2,000 IU)	50 mcg​
Vitamin E (as D-alpha tocopheryl succinate, D-alpha tocopherol)	67 mg​
Thiamine (vitamin B1) (as thiamine HCI)	75 mg​
Riboflavin (vitamin B2) (as riboflavin, riboflavin 5’-phosphate)	50 mg​
Niacin (as niacinamide, niacinamide ascorbate)	50 mg•​
Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCI, pyridoxal 5’-phosphate)	75 mg​
Folate (as L-5-methyltetrahydrofolate calcium salt)	680 mcg°​
Vitamin B12 (as methylcobalamin)	300 mcg​
Biotin	300 mcg​
Pantothenic acid (as D-calcium pantothenate)	50 mg​
Iodine (as potassium iodide)	150 mcg​
Magnesium (as magnesium oxide)	100 mg​
Zinc (as zinc citrate, L-OptiZinc® zinc mono-L-methionine sulfate)	25 mg​
Selenium [as sodium selenite, SelenoExcell® high selenium yeast, Se-methyl L-selenocysteine]	200 mcg​
Manganese (as manganese citrate, gluconate)	2 mg​
Chromium [as Crominex® 3+ chromium stabilized with Capros® amla extract (fruit), PrimaVie® Shilajit]	200 mcg​
Molybdenum (as molybdenum amino acid chelate)	100 mcg​
Inositol	50 mg​
Alpha lipoic acid	25 mg​
Natural mixed tocopherols (providing gamma, delta, alpha, beta)	20 mg​
Bio-Quercetin® Proprietary Blend providing 35% quercetin (5 mg) [from Japanese sophora concentrate (flower bud)], 30% galactomannans (4 mg) [from fenugreek (seed)]	14 mg​
Marigold extract (Tagetes erecta) (flower) [std. to 5 mg trans-lutein, 155 mcg trans-zeaxanthin]	11.12 mg​
Apigenin	5 mg​
Boron (as boron amino acid chelate)	3 mg​
Lycopene [from LycoBeads ® natural tomato extract (fruit)]	1 mg​
Other ingredients: vegetable cellulose (capsule), dicalcium phosphate, food starch-modified, silica, vegetable stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, maltodextrin, sunflower lecithin, sunflower oil.

Vit K2 is a legitimate one for supplementation, so is magnesium. however I would still try for those from foods
Vitamin D is legit go out in the sun which is way better than supplement. (ou can still use that vit d supp though)
Zinc is from oysters and beef. Pretty easy to get imo

These multivitamins are mixed... I dont recall off the top of my head but some of these forms of vitamins are pretty useless + mixing them all togehter like this is also suspect as some compete with others and negate one or the other
Some of the herbs and anti oxidants in there are estrogenic for sure.

Legit all the stuff on the "Other ingredients" is filler junk and really bad IMO... like everyhting on that list is industrial shit

 

[Achilles]

Yeah, I mean test generally pulses every 6 hours or so from memory, and having an unnaturally high test when you inject is going to necessarily be steroidal in nature, virtually halving your HDL and putting you at risk of atherosclerosis even just on TRT doses. Take a statin and ezetimibe.

When I talk about high t, I'm talking everything downstream of that too because it's impossible to necessarily point out everything that could mean without looking at an individual's bloodwork and considering their individual response - I could have high t but feel mostly high estrogen sides, or I could have high t and feel completely fine

Yeah so why would you want to risk half that shit and especially TRT? What are you trying to do yourself?
The best way to do testosterone is a topical application. Do not inject. You gotta do it daily but its far safer and way less likely to permanently shut you down or decrease natural test production when you cycle off. HCG also for a useful component.
But what you shoudl be really doing is maximizing your test naturally through diet, lifestyle, and enviroment.

Ive experimented myself with using Progesterone, Pregnenalone, DHEA, and Androsterone but i cant say they have had and crazy effects. All of htose are way safer then using testosterone and have way more systemic benefit. Also DHT is insanely good and stronger than test as well. Using Fin while rioding is crazy IMO

 

[JCaesar]

Zinc is from oysters and beef. Pretty easy to get imo

Not much in beef, oysters do have a lot but most people can't afford to eat it so often now jfl.

Vit K2 is a legitimate one for supplementation, so is magnesium. however I would still try for those from foods
Vitamin D is legit go out in the sun which is way better than supplement. (ou can still use that vit d supp though)

I'm not sure about the "just get the vitamins from food/sun" part. Most foods nowadays are lacking and lost most of their nutritional value compared to just a few decades and centuries back (for example 1 orange less than a century ago is estimated to have had the amount of vit C as 7 oranges today combined)
Most people are probably reaching deficiency in some vitamins and they don't know, just like how the base testosterone acceptable levels keep decreasing because people are getting weaker, people also keep getting less nutrients and vitamins from their diets.

mixing them all togehter like this is also suspect as some compete with others and negate one or the other

Wouldn't taking them separately still make them compete with each other then though?

Some of the herbs and anti oxidants in there are estrogenic for sure.

You think so? I'm not sure about all the ingredients but most seemed like essential stuff, you're supposed to take that multivitamin twice per day so if there's estrogenic stuff there that'd be really messed up

Legit all the stuff on the "Other ingredients" is filler junk and really bad IMO... like everyhting on that list is industrial shit

Pretty sure that's just extremely small doses used to make the pills jfl