Gym doesn’t have a social aspect really - go in, work out, leave. Sport has like meet and greets, events after, maybe you transfer club, take your family to watch a game, take a friend to watch yours etc, so probably sport
both have their pros and cons imo, gymceling gives you a physique women like which is a big halo and SMV boost, but sports are much more NT and a traditional chad trait. Women like good physiques but at the same time they view the work and dedication that goes into making them as autistic. Plus modern gym culture is a bit associated with cringy red pill nerds who use it to compensate for lack of success with women, and is seen as a bit non-NT, whereas sports' reputation hasn't changed over the years.
would she pick a chad who gymcels or a HTN in sport
something like that, or competing on a local level, or just as a hobby you're passionate about and good at, like a gymcel is with the gym
she'd prob pick a chad murderer over a htn in sport
it's tough, but I think the second in most cases. A chad who gymcels is just a chad who gymcels, but doing sports gives you other things too:
which indirectly boost SMV
Yes I agree, I think sport gives you a leg up in SMV, but intense gym can too, it depends on how you play it tbh
and who would pick the gymcel chad assuming he's not giga masc?
I guess there's autistic and NT ways to do both. People like David Laid or Mike Thurston and some nerdy red pill normie who thinks gymceling (while focusing on nothing else) will make him a slayer are very different things. I have a hard time imagining the sports equivalent, a "sporty nerd", but I assume that exists too. Maybe the fact that I can clearly imagine a non-NT gymcel, i.e. the archetype exists, but I can't do the same for an athlete proves sports' superiority.
quarterback only
I was thinking about the real football, which Americans call soccer.
for SMV Its an NT sport (not golf, but like soccer or basketball) for like pure attraction, like you just take the guy and put bro in a club based off looks, it’s gym,
cope eurocuck
honestly this isn't "black pill orthodoxy" and I might get some shit for saying it, but I don't think there's that big of an SMV difference between htn and chad irl. Other factors come into play at that point like the woman's preferences, charisma, status etc. which determine who SMV mogs. Very rarely do I see chad celebs dating or married to their looksmatch, whereas all the stacy celebs are with statusmaxxed htns (and mtns to a lesser extent, but I don't want to start a looks vs status debate).
Depends if you have a great body and are lean, I assume the gymcel is lean and has a good body
Why don't you think there's much of an smv difference?
both the gymcel and athlete look good for their respective activity. Gymcel has the aesthetic gymmaxxed physique which no sport can really give, but also no social aspect and might be associated with cringy non-NT gym rat culture (or be seen by the woman as nerdy).
Overall appeal or niche appeal, for niche appeal the gymcel and overall appeal the sport guy obviously. The gymcel will get probably higher quality girls but way less. But all depends on face if face is equal that's it. Honestly being lean and social is the only thing you need
cause women aren't as obsessed with facial aesthetics as people here think they are, they view guys as hot, average or ugly and that's it, stuff like charisma, masculine behavior, NT etc. still matter. A charismatic statusmaxxed HTN SMVmogs a socially awkward chad with a normie life to oblivion, their difference in looks isn't significant enough to make women want to trade the aforementioned stuff for a slightly more "psl-perfect" man. If this weren't the case you wouldn't have women thirsting over celebs like Theo James or Timothe Chamalet, only the top 1% of celebs psl-wise would be considered hearthrobs, and male models would be some of the most popular men in the world with women, which clearly isn't the case.
let's say the gymcel Chad (with a lean athletic femalegazed body) had a chad face but no TikTok haircut (standard short hair) and a maesthetic or robust prettyboy face. And the HTN who plays sports has a tiktok haircut and a prettyboy or robust prettyboy pheno.
Women like an athletic body, not a fat gymcel
why would the gymcel be fat? I'm talking about a Zyzz or Mike Thurson not some ogremaxxer like Sam Sulek
99% of gymcels dont look like zyzz tho
Football jock any day
Sport obv
