Counting calories is bs if you are eating real food...

[Deleted member 11126]

Unless your going on an extreme cut you will not feel hungry if you are eating real food most of the time.

If you eat shit food with bad quality then you will feel hungrier throughout the day but try eating something like 10 eggs or a steak and being hungry afterwards.

Shit is only necessary if your going on an extreme cut if you eat fast food your brain will signal hunger hormone because you had low quality food

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Like technically if you ate 1800 calories at Mcdonalds vs just steak eggs some veggies and rice chicken you would lose weight at the same rate (although you would probably lose 2X more muscle on the first diet) but you will feel awful and still be hungry on the first one

Its just the gayest shit ever I know people who do this when they go out like one bad meal is going to ruin their progress. It really is a life style if your life is on point 99% of the time then you will be fine if you eat like shit a lot then your fucked

 

[capybara]

I find it cringe when people who don't lift and aren't trying to preserve muscle count calories
literally complete waste of time; just stop being a fatass lol

 

[capybara]

Also follow me I want to comment on your profile babe

 

[gribsufer1]

I find it cringe when people who don't lift and aren't trying to preserve muscle count calories
literally complete waste of time; just stop being a fatass lol

muscle is cope i dont care about macimising hypertrophy or whatever, im just learning martial arts

 

[capybara]

muscle is cope i dont care about macimising hypertrophy or whatever, im just learning martial arts

Based! Lifting is better than being sedentary but martial arts, calisthenics, and cardio are more natural and mog lifting

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I find it cringe when people who don't lift and aren't trying to preserve muscle count calories
literally complete waste of time; just stop being a fatass lol

Yeah its a sign your eating dog shit food. I talked with this fattie he was telling me about how he counts calories and is not losing weight and his diet was so shit. Like no wonder he would also have 2 day binges on the weekend and eat 10,000 calories but not take that into account.

Told him to just fast for a week then eat only food he cooked with real ingridents and he couldn't even bother to learn to cook. I keep wonder why there is a personal trainer industry at all when so much stuff is just common sense but then you look around at how dumb and (lazy/making excuses) people are and you realize why it even exists

 

[gribsufer1]

Based! Lifting is better than being sedentary but martial arts, calisthenics, and cardio are more natural and mog lifting

id say lifting mogs due to how how many different muscles you can accurately target especially with cables and have good progressive overload and rep ranges you need, calisthenics is much more limited, i dont care about muh natural movement , its just that martial arts make you a good fighter not lifting, ill lift seriously in the future when i can get my diet perfect and get all the supplements i need etc but its low ROI for me rn im just a teen , whereas being a good fighter means i can start a crew to moneymac

 

[Deleted member 11126]

muscle is cope i dont care about macimising hypertrophy or whatever, im just learning martial arts

Yeah ideally you lift for a sport but if you do mainly compound movements you can look pretty decent.

If your a runner with 12% body fat tho you mog a 25% 200 pound bodybuilder with a 300 bench in girls eyes. There's a reason humans don't look like chimps or gorillas humans are built to have lean compact frames and have strength but also be able to run and move for a long time without getting tired. Brad Pitt from fight club is probably the ideal build you can get if you want to look like a body builder level strength your either on roids or bulking none of which is natural or efficient to what the human form was intended for

any more muscle then this and your getting into diminishing returns territory

If humans really were evolved for strength then we would not be how we are today chimps are 5-10X stronger then humans at similar sizes and have insane amounts of muscle. I think humans lost these traits in favor of endurance and being able to run for a long time

 

[capybara]

id say lifting mogs due to how how many different muscles you can accurately target especially with cables and have good progressive overload and rep ranges you need, calisthenics is much more limited, i dont care about muh natural movement , its just that martial arts make you a good fighter not lifting, ill lift seriously in the future when i can get my diet perfect and get all the supplements i need etc but its low ROI for me rn im just a teen , whereas being a good fighter means i can start a crew to moneymac

Barbells mogs for lower body but barbell is unnecessary for upper body

 

[ripcordgod1]

Unless your going on an extreme cut you will not feel hungry if you are eating real food most of the time.

If you eat shit food with bad quality then you will feel hungrier throughout the day but try eating something like 10 eggs or a steak and being hungry afterwards.

Shit is only necessary if your going on an extreme cut if you eat fast food your brain will signal hunger hormone because you had low quality food

just avoid simple carbs make u go hungry hella fast

 

[gribsufer1]

Yeah ideally you lift for a sport but if you do mainly compound movements you can look pretty decent.

If your a runner with 12% body fat tho you mog a 25% 200 pound bodybuilder with a 300 bench in girls eyes. There's a reason humans don't look like chimps or gorillas humans are built to have lean compact frames and have strength but also be able to run and move for a long time without getting tired. Brad Pitt from fight club is probably the ideal build you can get if you want to look like a body builder level strength your either on roids or bulking none of which is natural or efficient to what the human form was intended for

any more muscle then this and your getting into diminishing returns territory

If humans really were evolved for strength then we would not be how we are today chimps are 5-10X stronger then humans at similar sizes and have insane amounts of muscle. I think humans lost these traits in favor of endurance and being able to run for a long time

steve reeves physique is still ideal

 

[Deleted member 11126]

just avoid simple carbs make u go hungry hella fast

Well also higher quality foods do too. Like if you eat a potato it fill you up more then rice. Fruits have simple carbs but it would also be very hard to over eat fruit alone

 

[Deleted member 11126]

steve reeves physique is still ideal

Well in girls eyes the guy you posted looks good nothing like modern gross body builders.

But my point is more muscle then brad pit in that pic is not going to win you any favor with girls it is a unique look and I will say its pretty nice but humans were designed to be running and moving multiple hours a day having a lean robust efficient build is just more realistic

 

[longjohnmong]

I like counting calories because I tend to eat too little if I don't. And you'll never get super lean merely by "not being a fatass."

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I like counting calories because I tend to eat too little if I don't. And you'll never get super lean merely by "not being a fatass."

Depends how fat you are. I think some people are just so fat they need to do something extreme like fasting or low calorie diet but thats for people 100 pounds overweight. Otherwise just fast once or twice a year and eat reasonable food

 

[fjor2096]

Like technically if you ate 1800 calories at Mcdonalds vs just steak eggs some veggies and rice chicken you would lose weight at the same rate (although you would probably lose 2X more muscle on the first diet) but you will feel awful and still be hungry on the first one

Its just the gayest shit ever I know people who do this when they go out like one bad meal is going to ruin their progress. It really is a life style if your life is on point 99% of the time then you will be fine if you eat like shit a lot then your fucked

tbh mcdonalds isnt that bad if you just eat meat and throw out the other shit, they often have good deals on burgers and stuff and you could get an easy 50+ g of protein in one meal

 

[Deleted member 11126]

tbh mcdonalds isnt that bad if you just eat meat and throw out the other shit, they often have good deals on burgers and stuff and you could get an easy 50+ g of protein in one meal

Yeah they are the only fast food that doesn't cook their meat in seed oils. But its all the other stuff that will kill you. The fries the soft drinks the sauces ect

 

[fjor2096]

Yeah they are the only fast food that doesn't cook their meat in seed oils. But its all the other stuff that will kill you. The fries the soft drinks the sauces ect

yeah tbh even some of the burgers by themselves will get you if not careful, one time i looked at the nutritional value and it was like 1k mg sodium just for a double stack jfl

 

[Deleted member 11126]

yeah tbh even some of the burgers by themselves will get you if not careful, one time i looked at the nutritional value and it was like 1k mg sodium just for a double stack jfl

Really if you do this once in a while like on a road trip nothing will happen. You could eat 8000 calories in one day but if you ate relatively normal the rest of the month it would have hardly any difference on your final weight.

Its the consistent things you do that matter if you eat overall good thats what matters

 

[justadude]

i recommend everyone to count calories for a week or two. it gives you a great idea on what has what, makes it really easy to guesstimate how many calories ur eating for later on which is useful

 

[JohnDoe]

If most people ate a healthy balanced diet of fruits, vegetables & meat. They would not overeat.

 

[alien]

Yeah ideally you lift for a sport but if you do mainly compound movements you can look pretty decent.

If your a runner with 12% body fat tho you mog a 25% 200 pound bodybuilder with a 300 bench in girls eyes. There's a reason humans don't look like chimps or gorillas humans are built to have lean compact frames and have strength but also be able to run and move for a long time without getting tired. Brad Pitt from fight club is probably the ideal build you can get if you want to look like a body builder level strength your either on roids or bulking none of which is natural or efficient to what the human form was intended for

any more muscle then this and your getting into diminishing returns territory

If humans really were evolved for strength then we would not be how we are today chimps are 5-10X stronger then humans at similar sizes and have insane amounts of muscle. I think humans lost these traits in favor of endurance and being able to run for a long time

I've been lifting natty since mid-July (though I was doing a cut until late September because I was skinny fat when I joined a gym) and I still don't have Fight Club Brad Pitt's level of musculature. And I am not as lean as him either because I have been bulking for the past 4 months. lmfao.
Even just obtaining Brad Pitt's physique is going to take a lot of work to achieve natty if you are starting from a beginner level.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I've been lifting natty since mid-July (though I was doing a cut until late September because I was skinny fat when I joined a gym) and I still don't have Fight Club Brad Pitt's level of musculature. And I am not as lean as him either because I have been bulking for the past 4 months. lmfao.
Even just obtaining Brad Pitt's physique is going to take a lot of work to achieve natty if you are starting from a beginner level.

Yeah I meant more so this is the max amount of muscle where you will inherently look good. A runner with shit muscle is more appealing then a lifter. I have been both oddly enough guys respected me more on the bulk but I did way worse with women. But ideally you don't look like a total stick and are low body fat.

Runners have some muscle but the main benefits are just my face. At 10-15% body fat your face will look a lot better especially if you store a lot of face fat.