Daily reminder that girls don't give a shit about muscles

[CarlSagan96]

I fully respect anyone "gymcelling" to become more confident about their body image, increase their T levels, improve their health, confidence, etc. just beware that having muscles won't get you laid. In fact most girls prefer dad bods over 6-pack abs: https://www.shape.com/lifestyle/mind-and-body/new-survey-shows-women-prefer-dadbod-six-pack

 

[Autist]

 

[fOreVER]

How certain are you of dad bod over six packs. Maybe skinny but idk about dad bod

 

[Cretinous]

surveys are retarded shit driven by pop culture fads. If you surveyed women 90% of the respondents would say they wouldnt date someone who has been identified as a misogynist or has a history of beating their partners, and yet........

There have been several much better methodological investigations in social sciences and surprise surprise, male sexual success has a strong correlation with muscularity (muscularity is muscular definition, an important distinction to remember since no one thinks fat people look strong even though they may indeed be ridiculously strong. Its over for powerbloaters) The idea that women dont care about muscles is primarily promoted by women themselves (which is a lie to patch over cognitive dissonances, like everything else women tell men about how women think) and secondly as a cope by DYEL guys.

 

[Eskimo]

cope, my eye area has a quad sweep

 

[mido the slayer]

cope, my eye area has a quad sweep

Cope women wants lean/fit
Like Sean opry and prime Chico

Slim and defined

 

[rockndogs]

cope

 

[CarlSagan96]

Cope women wants lean/fit
Like Sean opry and prime Chico
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Slim and defined

Proportions are the only universally attractive thing about the male body; notice how O'Pry and Lachowski have noticeably above average biclavicle width, leading to wider shoulders and comparatively narrow hips, which is ideal.

surveys are retarded shit driven by pop culture fads. If you surveyed women 90% of the respondents would say they wouldnt date someone who has been identified as a misogynist or has a history of beating their partners, and yet........

There have been several much better methodological investigations in social sciences and surprise surprise, male sexual success has a strong correlation with muscularity (muscularity is muscular definition, an important distinction to remember since no one thinks fat people look strong even though they may indeed be ridiculously strong. Its over for powerbloaters) The idea that women dont care about muscles is primarily promoted by women themselves (which is a lie to patch over cognitive dissonances, like everything else women tell men about how women think) and secondly as a cope by DYEL guys.

Do you have any links to these? Sounds interesting but still not convinced.

 

[mido the slayer]

Proportions are the only universally attractive thing about the male body; notice how O'Pry and Lachowski have noticeably above average biclavicle width, leading to wider shoulders and comparatively narrow hips, which is ideal.

Yep

 

[Zeta ascended]

The real benefit of gymcelling comes from, going from skinny fat, skinny or fat to lean and muscular. Neck training is also legit. Just don't fall for the "muh bulking" meme.

 

[mido the slayer]

The real benefit of gymcelling comes from, going from skinny fat, skinny or fat to lean and muscular. Neck training is also legit. Just don't fall for the "muh bulking" meme.

Muh bulking is cope
And body matters only 20% to women
And I’m also too lazy too lol

 

[Deleted member 1332]

Muh bulking is cope
And body matters only 20% to women
And I’m also too lazy too lol

"only 20%"

I would do unspeakable things to be 20% ''more'' attractive. You can't put a percentage on something like this tbh - you can just aim for mass appeal.

Mass appeal is a lean, semi-shredded body that more importantly has very good proportions. You really can't be shredded or lean on the level of someone like O'Pry if you don't go to the gym at least 2-3 times a week (if not more) and pay attention to your diet.

Proportions are the only universally attractive thing about the male body; notice how O'Pry and Lachowski have noticeably above average biclavicle width, leading to wider shoulders and comparatively narrow hips, which is ideal.

Very high IQ. Good proportions + not manlet + lean is what makes a man's body have mass appeal

 

[mido the slayer]

"only 20%"

I would do unspeakable things to be 20% ''more'' attractive. You can't put a percentage on something like this tbh - you can just aim for mass appeal.

Mass appeal is a lean, semi-shredded body that more importantly has very good proportions. You really can't be shredded or lean on the level of someone like O'Pry if you don't go to the gym at least 2-3 times a week (if not more) and pay attention to your diet.


Very high IQ. Good proportions + not manlet + lean is what makes a man's body have mass appeal

Yea is 5:9/5 or 176cm manlet or average?

 

[Wannabe6ft2]

Of course muscle matters. Just doesn't matter as much as face

 

[Autist]

Yea is 5:9/5 or 176cm manlet or average?

 

[mido the slayer]

Of course muscle matters. Just doesn't matter as much as face

Face is like 70-80% of the attraction example
Leonardo DiCaprio he had no muscles in titanic and women are all over him

Fuck man this piano is depressing
I guess it’s officially over for me

 

[Autist]

Face is like 70-80% of the attraction example
Leonardo DiCaprio he had no muscles in titanic and women are all over him

Fuck man this piano is depressing
I guess it’s officially over for me

Just wear 3 inch lifts bruh

 

[mido the slayer]

Just wear 3 inch lifts bruh

Man I hate this lifts

why do I have to be 6 foot to be considered human

 

[Cretinous]

Do you have any links to these? Sounds interesting but still not convinced.

CBA

just google "study women love muscle" and you'll get plenty. The paper i have in mind is probably not the one you'll get all the pop-psychology clickbait links of, but whatever.

 

[Time Travel]

Why lift when it's all about face ?

 

[mido the slayer]

Why lift when it's all about face ?

True tbh
Just don’t be fat theory

 

[itsOVER]

 

[MadMong]

Proportions are the only universally attractive thing about the male body; notice how O'Pry and Lachowski have noticeably above average biclavicle width, leading to wider shoulders and comparatively narrow hips, which is ideal.

Hit the nail on the head. This is why framecels need to add significant amounts of muscle to shoulders to compensate for subpar proportions. If you have naturally wide hips and/or narrow shoulders then gymcelling will improve your PSL significantly.

Look at https://bonytobeastly.com/transformations/

Many have gotten ripped with great toned, muscular bodies but clearly still need to add more to their shoulders to look attractive. Others looked good and only looked slightly better afterwards.

Safely ignore any studies where women indicate whether they prefer certain body types or facial features. Time and time again we have seen that what they say and what they do are two different things.

 

[forwardgrowth]

well proportioned + muscle, ideal insertions model trevor signoriono at 6'2+ height is ideal

 

[MadMong]

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His body looks like a boy not a man.. not sure where the sex appeal is. Unless he was going for prepubescent girls I think a bit more mass would have really benefited him.

^ Ideal body

 

[mido the slayer]

His body looks like a boy not a man.. not sure where the sex appeal is. Unless he was going for prepubescent girls I think a bit more mass would have really benefited him.

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^ Ideal body

Chico body is ideal

Gigacope

Hit the nail on the head. This is why framecels need to add significant amounts of muscle to shoulders to compensate for subpar proportions. If you have naturally wide hips and/or narrow shoulders then gymcelling will improve your PSL significantly.

Look at https://bonytobeastly.com/transformations/

Many have gotten ripped with great toned, muscular bodies but clearly still need to add more to their shoulders to look attractive. Others looked good and only looked slightly better afterwards.

Safely ignore any studies where women indicate whether they prefer certain body types or facial features. Time and time again we have seen that what they say and what they do are two different things.

But what’s the point???
Their faces are the same JFL
This is what women find ideal on a man

 

[MadMong]

Chico body is ideal View attachment 49151
Gigacope

For a 15 year old boy LOL

Looks like a twink

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

I fully respect anyone "gymcelling" to become more confident about their body image, increase their T levels, improve their health, confidence, etc. just beware that having muscles won't get you laid. In fact most girls prefer dad bods over 6-pack abs: https://www.shape.com/lifestyle/mind-and-body/new-survey-shows-women-prefer-dadbod-six-pack

 

[forwardgrowth]

lol o'pry and chico have terrible proportions and muscle insertions

 

[MadMong]

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Yeah they surveyed women who go to "FitnessWorld" gym AKA bunch of fatties who bought a year membership on impulse, go for a month and return to sitting on their gigantic asses. Women don't ever want to admit they're superficial and these ones in particular know they have disgusting bodies or they wouldn't have gym memberships. So obviously they will say oh yeah dad bod is fine who wants muscles and ripped bodies anyway? JFL

lol o'pry and chico have terrible proportions and muscle insertions

Chico looks way better now that he grew up



People saying Chico has ideal body are probably young teens with similar frames. I understand their viewpoint however it's completely irrelevant once you're 18+. Then you just look like a soyboy twink that a gust of wind would tip over.

 

[mido the slayer]

Yeah they surveyed women who go to "FitnessWorld" gym AKA bunch of fatties who bought a year membership on impulse, go for a month and return to sitting on their gigantic asses. Women don't ever want to admit they're superficial and these ones in particular know they have disgusting bodies or they wouldn't have gym memberships. So obviously they will say oh yeah dad bod is fine who wants muscles and ripped bodies anyway? JFL


Chico looks way better now that he grew up



People saying Chico has ideal body are probably young teens with similar frames. I understand their viewpoint however it's completely irrelevant once you're 18+. Then you just look like a soyboy twink that a gust of wind would tip over.

You are retarded mate

This is also ideal

My body is also ideal
And if you don’t like it you could suck my feet

 

[MadMong]

Chico body is ideal View attachment 49151
Gigacope

But what’s the point???
Their faces are the same JFL
This is what women find ideal on a man
View attachment 49152

What's the point? For them I don't know maybe they get an extra point of PSL in a dark room like a bar or club. For ONS being dom is important. I got 2x as many women in those environments when I bulked up even with bloatface. A lot of normies don't mind fucking 4's and 5's and improving their body will give them an edge over all the others going for those women.

For someone who has a great face and a terrible body? Ascension is the point. This whole board should be about eliminating flaws that hold back someone with otherwise great features. Instead it's a lot of cope and "if I can't get 5 different surgeries by 18 it's ogre for me"

Annoying as fuck.

 

[TBOLT]

Lean >>> muscles.

 

[MadMong]

You are retarded mate
View attachment 49156 This is also ideal
View attachment 49157My body is also ideal
And if you don’t like it you could suck my feet

Oh. I am retarded for not seeing you were just trolling. Well played..

 

[mido the slayer]

Lean >>> muscles.

This tbh

Oh. I am retarded for not seeing you were just trolling. Well played..

I’m not trolling
I mog you in every way

You are non Atlantid so you are inferior.
I bet you have shitty face and bulky up is the only way to cope.
And you are also gray you are new and I have 2700+ Comments and I’m experienced as well
Look at me I’m green


Keep coping sorry I mean keep bulking loser

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

You are retarded mate
View attachment 49156 This is also ideal
View attachment 49157My body is also ideal
And if you don’t like it you could suck my feet

Looking Ethinik in that pic, boyo

 

[mido the slayer]

Looking Ethinik in that pic, boyo

Yea opry looks weird in here ngl

 

[TBOLT]

"but but but muh bluepilled fantasy of girls being attracted to frame, height and muscles!"

 

[forwardgrowth]

lol at skinny fat being ideal

 

[mido the slayer]

"but but but muh bluepilled fantasy of girls being attracted to frame, height and muscles!"

Once again gigacope

That’s why you are an incel you have to understand what women find attractive which is face>frame>height>muscles

You need to have all of them to make women wet

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

Once again gigacope

That’s why you are an incel you have to understand what women find attractive which is face>frame>height>muscles

You need to have all of them to make women wet

Height before frame.

 

[mido the slayer]

Height before frame.

Depend on women as long your height is average or above average than you face and frame matters more

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

extremely low iq thread, kill yourself

 

[axedee]

LOW IQ this study was carried out by ASKING women LMAO

I personally think muscles are overrated too, and you get drawbacks/diminishing returns after fight club body but to say that skinnyfat is better
JFL...

 

[TBOLT]

Once again gigacope

That’s why you are an incel you have to understand what women find attractive which is face>frame>height>muscles

You need to have all of them to make women wet

So all the 5'7 guys who have gfs who get wet over them that I've seen are just hallucination.

 

[Deleted member 470]

For a 15 year old boy LOL

Looks like a twink

massive cope

not only would he tower over you he'd also make you look like a toothpick if you stood next to him
just accept the fact that even body is mostly genetics and swallow the

 

[AntiSocial-Fakecel]

extremely low iq thread, kill yourself

 

[mido the slayer]

So all the 5'7 guys who have gfs who get wet over them that I've seen are just hallucination.

Gigacope they use them for beta orbiting she fucks chads behind their back

Ever wondered why the divorce rate is 60%??
The women cheat with the chad

 

[SomethingOff]

I genuinely believe this is an actual psyop, and you fell for it.
Either that or it's the result of listening to what women say rather than looking at who they actually choose. Women say what the people currently listening want to hear, what will benefit them the most socially depending on the situation they are in.

 

[MadMong]

massive cope

not only would he tower over you he'd also make you look like a toothpick if you stood next to him
just accept the fact that even body is mostly genetics and swallow the

I'm 6'4 lmao

Maybe I should put that in my profile for some e-cred like you did

Then people will like me, right??

JFL