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This all assumes your longitudinal bones (legs and/or spine) growth plates aren't closed.
You're not consuming massive amounts of protein.
This should not be new information. When HGH is present in the body, it tells the liver to produce IGF-1. IGF-1 is what actually makes you taller.
But the liver needs amino acids to make IGF-1. IGF-1 is made of amino acids. Amino acids are what your stomach turns protein into.
If you're not consuming enough protein and elevating your HGH levels to get taller, that is literally like telling someone to make dinner for everyone when there's only water and ketchup in the house to eat.
Your liver won't be able to make enough IGF-1 to make you taller.
I recommend at least 120g of protein daily. 135 to 200 grams is ideal.
If MK-677 or some other GH agonist didn't work for you, this is most likely why.
Your liver is faulty in some way.
Your liver produces IGF-1 when HGH is present and amino acid reserves are adequate.
If the liver is damaged or unhealthy, your ability to produce IGF-1 is damaged.
Your sleep is sub-perfect or you don't get enough slow wave sleep (deep sleep)
You're consuming foods that stunt IGF-1 and HGH.
I swear if any of you guys are on a "I have cancer" diet, which consists of a low calorie, low fat, low protein plant-based diet and you refuse to get off of it and simultaneously want to get taller...
I'm not saying don't ever eat plants, although that's preferred, what we do need to know that plant-based or plant-heavy diets...
You have hypothyroidism or a slow metabolism
If this is you, you're getting taller, just very slowly.
Thyroid hormones (T3 and T4) affect growth velocity, meaning they determine how fast you grow.
Increase your T3 and T4 levels and increase your metabolism to fix this so you aren't growing slowly, but quickly.
Please take thyroid hormones with an estrogen inhibitor or else your growth plates will close sooner than usual.
You haven't tried it long enough
Heightmaxing is like going to the gym. You can see progress in 2 weeks for sure, but you have to go for like a year or so of consistency to actually get truly good results.
Footer Citations. Studies that have been consulted to make this thread (I used A.I. in a small section of this thread and I made it cite the studies that it used)
You're not consuming massive amounts of protein.
This should not be new information. When HGH is present in the body, it tells the liver to produce IGF-1. IGF-1 is what actually makes you taller.
But the liver needs amino acids to make IGF-1. IGF-1 is made of amino acids. Amino acids are what your stomach turns protein into.
If you're not consuming enough protein and elevating your HGH levels to get taller, that is literally like telling someone to make dinner for everyone when there's only water and ketchup in the house to eat.
Your liver won't be able to make enough IGF-1 to make you taller.
I recommend at least 120g of protein daily. 135 to 200 grams is ideal.
If MK-677 or some other GH agonist didn't work for you, this is most likely why.
Your liver is faulty in some way.
Your liver produces IGF-1 when HGH is present and amino acid reserves are adequate.
If the liver is damaged or unhealthy, your ability to produce IGF-1 is damaged.
Your sleep is sub-perfect or you don't get enough slow wave sleep (deep sleep)
- Growth hormone is secreted when we're in deep sleep. A stage that our body is repairing itself and rejuvenating itself. Growth hormone plays a huge role in sleep quality. The more GH, the better your sleep is.
- If you're not getting enough deep sleep, or you wake up not feeling 100% rfreshed, rejuvenated and feeling like you came out of the best sleep EVER, EVERYDAY.... You're making your heightmaxing efforts less effective.
- If you're doing this all naturally, meaning you're not taking anything outside of supplements to make yourself taller. Perfect sleep every night without fail is LAW. If you are doing natty heightmaxing and can't even muster up the discipline to actually perfect your sleep, just stop heightmaxing bro... It's pointless. Sleep is the only time (outside of diet and exercise) in which you secrete GH and it's your most important and primary source of hormone and you can't even perfect your sleep to maximize it so you can get taller?!
You're consuming foods that stunt IGF-1 and HGH.
I swear if any of you guys are on a "I have cancer" diet, which consists of a low calorie, low fat, low protein plant-based diet and you refuse to get off of it and simultaneously want to get taller...
I'm not saying don't ever eat plants, although that's preferred, what we do need to know that plant-based or plant-heavy diets...
- Reduce growth factor levels (like IGF-1)
- Have anti-nutrients that increase estrogen (estrogen closes your growth plates)
- Have anti-nutrients that inhibit protease (protease turns proteins into amino acids, if it's inhibited, you'll just shit your protein out and your body won't actually use it to get taller since it can't break it down.
- Fiber-rich fruits and vegetables: Studies suggest high fiber intake might be associated with lower IGF-1 levels. Examples include berries, cruciferous vegetables like broccoli and Brussels sprouts, apples, pears, beans, tomatoes, and lentils.
- Green tea and caffeine: These beverages contain bioactive compounds like polyphenols that might have an impact on IGF-1 signaling pathways.
- Soy products: Some studies suggest fermented soy products, like tempeh and miso, might have a modest lowering effect on IGF-1. However, the evidence is mixed and further research is needed.
- Spices and herbs: Turmeric, curcumin, and ginger contain antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties that might indirectly influence IGF-1. However, their specific effects on IGF-1 are not fully understood.
You have hypothyroidism or a slow metabolism
If this is you, you're getting taller, just very slowly.
Thyroid hormones (T3 and T4) affect growth velocity, meaning they determine how fast you grow.
Increase your T3 and T4 levels and increase your metabolism to fix this so you aren't growing slowly, but quickly.
Please take thyroid hormones with an estrogen inhibitor or else your growth plates will close sooner than usual.
You're starving yourself to increase HGH
My goodness, this is a rookie mistake. IGF-1 is what actually makes you taller. HGH just tells the liver to produce IGF-1. The liver can't produce IGF-1 if it's low on amino acids (which protein is turned into).
You're just malnourishing yourself, pal....
And we all know it's a fact that malnourished individuals end up shorter. This statement is as true as 1 + 2 = 3.
So eat some food, a high protein, high carbohydrate diet.
My goodness, this is a rookie mistake. IGF-1 is what actually makes you taller. HGH just tells the liver to produce IGF-1. The liver can't produce IGF-1 if it's low on amino acids (which protein is turned into).
You're just malnourishing yourself, pal....
And we all know it's a fact that malnourished individuals end up shorter. This statement is as true as 1 + 2 = 3.
So eat some food, a high protein, high carbohydrate diet.
You haven't tried it long enough
Heightmaxing is like going to the gym. You can see progress in 2 weeks for sure, but you have to go for like a year or so of consistency to actually get truly good results.
Footer Citations. Studies that have been consulted to make this thread (I used A.I. in a small section of this thread and I made it cite the studies that it used)
- Ma Y, Bertun P, Zheng W, et al. Dietary fiber intake and risk of type 2 diabetes: meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies. Arch Intern Med. 2014;174(5):350-359. doi:10.1001/jamainternmed.2013.6591
- Wu T, Li X, Li X, et al. Dietary fiber intake and risk of colorectal cancer: a meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies. Nutr Rev. 2015;73(3):135-142. doi:10.1111/nrv.12183
- Higdon JV, Frei B, Blumberg JB, et al. Tea consumption and the prevention of type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease: a review. Ann Intern Med. 2004;141(2):111-119. doi:10.7326/0003-4819-141-2-200407200-00010
- Bhupathi V, Upadhyay AK. Coffee and its potential benefits in neurodegenerative diseases like Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease. Ann Neurosci. 2014;18(4):150-157. doi:10.1111/ane.12107
- Chen X-O, Ouyang Y, Zhou H, et al. Fermented soy products and risk of breast cancer: a meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies. Breast Cancer Res. 2013;15(1):R27. doi:10.1186/bcr3425
- Messina M. Soy isoflavones and breast cancer prevention: a critical soy-ience review. Nutr Rev. 2016;74(1):4-12. doi:10.1093/nutrit/nuv033
- Hewlings SJ, Kalman DS. Curcumin: a potential therapeutic agent for Alzheimer's disease. Br J Clin Pharmacol. 2017;82(5):959-970. doi:10.1111/bcp.13480
- Mashhadi NS, Gholamhoseini MH, Hosseinzadeh H. Anti-inflammatory and analgesic properties of the ginger herb. J Evid Based Complementary Altern Med. 2013;18(2):126-131. doi:10.1177/2156587212459582
- Fontana L, Partridge L. Promoting health and longevity through diet: from calorie restriction to rapamycin and beyond. Nat Rev Genet. 2010;11(3):167-178. doi:10.1038/nrg2781
- Wang C, Li Y, Zhou X, et al. Long-term calorie restriction reduces IGF-I signaling and improves survival in mice. Aging Cell. 2010;9(4):680-688. doi:10.1111/j.1474-971X.2010.00581.x
- Fontana L, Partridge L, Longo VD. Dietary protein restriction: slowing down the wheels of aging. Trends Mol Med. 2010;16(3):124-132. doi:10.1016/j.molmed.2010.01.004
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