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Hiring a third worldcel to work for me full time
so i researched and theres 3 options
1. create a company in third world country and hire them via that. however its a long process and u cant own 100% of the business a local needs to own 60% so its just a mess
2. geo companies. they own a company in hundreds of countries and will let u hire them via their company. but theyre ur employee in reality. but the cost seems too expensive. its saying like 600USD per month per employee just for fees for using them? like tf? the whole point of hiring third world is so u can just pay them 200usd per month
3. contractors.
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market for the company. The remote contractor is not subject to your local employment laws. You are also not concerned with tax payments or other perks from a full-time employee. However, many foreign workers may not be willing to work under these conditions.##
Without an EOR, most U.S. companies choose to treat international employees as independent contractors. This can cause a host of problems for workers and businesses if they are not careful. People who work as contractors must generally be free from restrictions about when they work, how they receive payments, the rates they charge, and whether they can work for multiple companies. Workers who do not meet the definition of contractor may be considered employees under local jurisdictions.
Companies hiring remote workers may be inclined to hire the worker as a contractor rather than an employee. This does have its advantages, as the company only has to set up a contract, confirm work progress and send payment, and the worker takes care of their own taxes and contributions as they are self-employed. Some workers prefer this or are already set up this way, but many are not prepared to be independent.
The downsides to hiring contractors is that there is typically less control by the company and the worker may not feel as loyal or connected to the business. Moreover, the worker could be re-classified by authorities as an employee if they don’t meet self-employment criteria. This would mean payment by the company of back taxes, contributions and in some cases penalties for misclassification.
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Basically with hiring them as a contractor u dont have to worry about any legal or taxes shit. U can just pay them
But the problem is,
"An independent contractor is usually hired on a non-exclusive basis to accomplish specific tasks based on a fixed salary or wages as mutually agreed. However, the contractor has the freedom to decide when and how they do their job. The employer is not required to withhold taxes on behalf of their contractor or offer them benefits. You can learn more about the differences between the employee and contractor classifications in Remote’s expert guide to understanding misclassification."
you cant tell them when to do their job, and u cant tell them how to do their job.
so thats like the polar opposite of what i want.
i suppose id have to say
"if you worked 9-5, 5 days per week for me, you'd earn $250.. but you can work whenever you want"
and "you could do the job like this... however you can do it however u want"
and the law says if u try make them like an employee u can get hefty fines and shit for fraud
but like wtf. is it strict? can i just tell them whatever? or do i have to be meticulous about what i say to them and how i command them?
also i should check how bad the fines are
also the next step is trying to find out how to actually hire someone as a contractor from third world. id imagine just posting on job boards in their country?
so i researched and theres 3 options
1. create a company in third world country and hire them via that. however its a long process and u cant own 100% of the business a local needs to own 60% so its just a mess
2. geo companies. they own a company in hundreds of countries and will let u hire them via their company. but theyre ur employee in reality. but the cost seems too expensive. its saying like 600USD per month per employee just for fees for using them? like tf? the whole point of hiring third world is so u can just pay them 200usd per month
3. contractors.
"
market for the company. The remote contractor is not subject to your local employment laws. You are also not concerned with tax payments or other perks from a full-time employee. However, many foreign workers may not be willing to work under these conditions.##
Without an EOR, most U.S. companies choose to treat international employees as independent contractors. This can cause a host of problems for workers and businesses if they are not careful. People who work as contractors must generally be free from restrictions about when they work, how they receive payments, the rates they charge, and whether they can work for multiple companies. Workers who do not meet the definition of contractor may be considered employees under local jurisdictions.
Companies hiring remote workers may be inclined to hire the worker as a contractor rather than an employee. This does have its advantages, as the company only has to set up a contract, confirm work progress and send payment, and the worker takes care of their own taxes and contributions as they are self-employed. Some workers prefer this or are already set up this way, but many are not prepared to be independent.
The downsides to hiring contractors is that there is typically less control by the company and the worker may not feel as loyal or connected to the business. Moreover, the worker could be re-classified by authorities as an employee if they don’t meet self-employment criteria. This would mean payment by the company of back taxes, contributions and in some cases penalties for misclassification.
"
Basically with hiring them as a contractor u dont have to worry about any legal or taxes shit. U can just pay them
But the problem is,
"An independent contractor is usually hired on a non-exclusive basis to accomplish specific tasks based on a fixed salary or wages as mutually agreed. However, the contractor has the freedom to decide when and how they do their job. The employer is not required to withhold taxes on behalf of their contractor or offer them benefits. You can learn more about the differences between the employee and contractor classifications in Remote’s expert guide to understanding misclassification."
you cant tell them when to do their job, and u cant tell them how to do their job.
so thats like the polar opposite of what i want.
i suppose id have to say
"if you worked 9-5, 5 days per week for me, you'd earn $250.. but you can work whenever you want"
and "you could do the job like this... however you can do it however u want"
and the law says if u try make them like an employee u can get hefty fines and shit for fraud
but like wtf. is it strict? can i just tell them whatever? or do i have to be meticulous about what i say to them and how i command them?
also i should check how bad the fines are
also the next step is trying to find out how to actually hire someone as a contractor from third world. id imagine just posting on job boards in their country?
