How not to be a fool. Penis sizes

[Deleted member 22886]

Firsly, I don't want to insult the author of the thread about which i'll be talking because everyone do this mistake.

Spoiler: Link

male penis size is actually increasing. proof

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjk6eKPmNL9AhWVUGwGHRPDC7UQxfQBKAB6BAgaEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Fhealth%2Faverage-penis-size-increase%2F&usg=AOvVaw1ryY9hi2mEj0FJV3wB1gcl...

looksmax.org

Let's look at the thread.

OP is claiming that average penis size is now 6'' = 15.24 cm BP.
Now let's look at his sources - https://bigthink.com/health/average-penis-size-increase/

Now, let's take a look on original reasearch -

Worldwide Temporal Trends in Penile Length: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

Belladelli F, et al. World J Mens Health. 2023 Oct;41(4):848-860. https://doi.org/10.5534/wjmh.220203

wjmh.org

They got a table of researches that they have used - https://wjmh.org/ViewImage.php?Type...74_WJMH_41_X_e31&fn=wjmh-41-e31-i001_2074WJMH
And another table of content

We can see that journalists have used fake artical. In reality mean erectile length in 1990-1999 was 13.12 and not 12.27 and in 2010-2021 it have changed to 14.55. However, the funniest part is that mean stretched lenght has decreased from 14.32 in 1990-1999 to 12.83 in 2010-2021 so we can even say that penis size became smaller

Now let's talk about THE LATEST (very important that all researches about which i will be talking about has been published in 2010-2021) researches they have took into account about talking about size increase.

Before that let's return to the magazine article

So, they're talking that even that testosterone levels decrease penis size became bigger. That's a lie.

Research 1: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26235901/
2015 Sep;3(5):919-23.
doi: 10.1111/andr.12073. Epub 2015 Jul 31.
No numbers about length here however

the mean age was 52 years.

stretched penile length (SPL) was equivalent to peak penile length after ICI (intracavernosal injection ) in 60 patients (65%, group 1) and did not match in 33 (35%, group 2)

So, we now know that stretch penile length is equivalent to peak penis length for 2/3 of men population and my assumption that penis length decreased because stretched length decreased is more real than original assumption. And the mean age was 52 years old so we can't talk that youngers have bigger penises.

Research 2: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26440678/
2015 Oct;12(10):2031-5.
doi: 10.1111/jsm.13005. Epub 2015 Oct 6.

The mean underestimate of length from stretched flaccid to erect was 2.64 cm (21.4%) and girth 2.27 cm (19.5%). Interobserver variability ranged from a mean underestimate of 16-27% (length) and 15-27% (girth).

AHHHAHAHHAHHAHHAH, 2.64 cm is 16-27% of erect length, so the length is 9.7-16.5, however the mean is 21.4% soooooo the mean length is 12.5 cm. LOL

Research 3: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21114411/
2011 Jan;25(1):65-9.
doi: 10.1089/end.2010.0382. Epub 2010 Nov 29.

A total of 127 patients were enrolled and 94 completed the 11-month follow-up. The mean patient age was 56.5 years. Baseline mean SPL (cm) before surgery was 11.77 and decreased to 11.13 at 1 month (P<0.0001). A trend toward recovery of SPL was seen at 3 and 6 months. Mean SPL was not significantly different from baseline at 9, 10, and 11 months.

Nothing new to say here

Research 4:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30745567/
2020 Jan;32(1):133-139.
doi: 10.1038/s41443-019-0125-z. Epub 2019 Feb 11.

In this prospective study we report our results regarding penile dimensions and patient satisfaction outcomes after 1 year of follow-up from AMS™LGX700® penile prosthesis implant with 6 months of vacuum erectile device therapy. Seventy-four selected patients with medically refractory erectile dysfunction underwent AMS™ LGX 700® IPP placement. Postoperatively, patients were assigned vacuum device therapy for 5 min twice daily. Follow-up continued for 1 year after surgery. Dimensional and functional results were assessed. Baseline median preoperative stretched penile length and girth were 14 cm (range 10-17) and 9 cm (range 7-12), respectively. At the end of the study penile median dimensional outcomes were 17 cm (range 13-23) for length and 11 cm (range 10-13) for girth while a median number of 24 pumps (range 18-29) to fully inflate the device was seen.

They were fucking kidding when they counted this shit. This guys have an operation after which their penises became 17 cm mean, their penises were 14 cm mean and girth was 9cm (WTF).

Research 5: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30068977/
2018 Nov;30(6):287-291.
doi: 10.1038/s41443-018-0053-3. Epub 2018 Aug 1.

In colloquial English, a "grower" is a man whose phallus expands significantly in length from the flaccid to the erect state; a "shower" is a man whose phallus does not demonstrate such expansion. The median change in penile length from flaccid to erect state was 4.0 cm (1.0-7.0), and was used as a cut-off value defining a grower (≥4.0 cm) or a shower (4.0 cm)

A total of 73 men (26%) fit the definition of a grower (mean change in length of 5.3 cm [SD 0.5]) and 205 (74%) were showers (mean change in length of 3.1 cm [SD 0.9]). There were no differences between the groups with regards to race, smoking history, co-morbidities, erectile function, flaccid penile length, degree of penile rigidity after ICI, or PDDU findings. Growers were significantly younger (mean age 47.5 vs. 55.9 years, p < 0.001), single (37% vs. 23%, p = 0.031), received less vasodilator dose (10.3 mcg vs. 11.0 mcg, p = 0.038) and had a larger erect phallus (15.5 cm vs. 13.1 cm, p < 0.001).

Lol, these researchers is funny. They really think that is you have 15 cm flaccid penis and 20 cm in erect you're a grower not a shower (the better method is to compare percentage of growing (20-15) /20 = 25% grow and etc). So, mean age was 47.5 and 55.9 years in 2 groups (not young people, lol). 26% of men have average size of 15.5 cm and 76% of men have an average size of 13.1 cm, so the average of a whole group is 13.9 cm.

Research 6: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33484108/
2021 Jun;27(6):522-525.

We found that penile dimensions follow a non-parametric distribution, as tested by Kolmogorov-Smirnov test. The median values are 9.03 cm for flaccid length, 14.67 cm for stretched length, 8.39 cm for mid-shaft circumference, and 2.86 cm for unaroused glans diameter. Length and girth of the penis also changed among the different groups, especially in flaccid state; specifically, men with erectile dysfunction had a greater value in all penile dimensions except for change ratio compared with other groups. Circumcision, which rarely occurs in Vietnam, was associated with a 2 mm reduced penis length.

Information about flaccid length, stretched length, mid-shaft circumference, and glans diameter from the health records of 14,597 men attending the Andrology Consultation was collected. These men were classified into three groups being regular reproductive health screening group, sexual dysfunction group, and other disease groups.

Not bad for Asians, probaly 1 normal research, however i won't believe this shit. You're really telling me that Vietnamese have bigger penises???

Research 7: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34914292/
2021 Jun;27(6):522-525.

Compared with the baseline, the postoperative SPL (［9.72 ± 1.87］ vs ［7.80 ± 1.57］ cm, P = 0), FPL (［6.26 ± 1.14］ vs ［5.13 ± 1.10］ cm, P = 0) and penile circumference (［7.69 ± 0.83］ vs ［7.26 ± 0.78］ cm, P = 0.012) were decreased significantly, by (1.92 ± 0.12) cm, (1.13 ± 0.09) cm and (0.43 ± 0.08) cm, respectively. The age of the patients was significantly correlated with the change of the FPL (P = 0.042), but not the other factors with the change of the penile size. Twenty-six (57.7%) cases of severe and moderate ED were observed in the patients postoperatively. Those with better preoperative sexual function took a more positive attitude towards penile rehabilitation and treatment postoperatively (n = 3, 75.0%).

Average SPL 9.72 (!) after surgery, before 7.8 (it's over). Different Asian researches, completely different numbers.

Research 8: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34539952/
2021 Jun 29;39:155.
doi: 10.11604/pamj.2021.39.155.21733. eCollection 2021.

Two hundred and seventy-one men were recruited with 97 men in group I and 174 men in group II. Mean ages were 38.4 ± 6.9 (21-50) years and 68 ± 9.1 (51-98) years. In group I, the mean flaccid penile length (FPL)-I and stretched penile length (SPL)-I were 9.8± 2.7 and 10.6± 2.2, mean height 1.7±0.07m and body mass index (BMI) 24.1±3.1 kg/m2. While in group II, mean FPL-II and SPL-II were 13.0± 2.9 and 14.1 ± 2.1, mean height was 1.69± 0.07m and BMI 24.3± 3.2 kg/m2. There were positive correlations between the SPL-I and heights in group I; (r=0.305, p<0.002); height and FPL-I (r = 0.218, P<0.032). Similarly, in group II positive correlations of FPL-II and SPL-II with height; r = 0.166 P<0.028 and r = 0.183, P<0.015. There was negative correlation SPL-II and BMI-II r-0.224, p<0.003. FLR-II and BMI-II, -0.157, p<0.039. In conclusion, Flaccid and stretched penile length of men < 50 years was smaller than those > 50 years. In both age groups, flaccid and stretched penile lengths correlated with height. In group II, penile lengths correlated negatively with BMI.

SPL 10.6 and SPL 14.1 in Nigeria. It's competely over.

Research 9: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33748967/
. 2021 Jul;53(6):e14053.
doi: 10.1111/and.14053. Epub 2021 Mar 21.

A total of 4,685 men living in Italy and who have been visited at the Italian urology operating units were involved in the study between January 2019 and January 2020. Each patient was given details on how to measure their penis (erect length and circumference) in flaccidity and in erection, from the lower base to the distal penile tip. Mean (standard deviation [SD]) flaccid penis length was 9.47 (2.69), mean (SD) flaccid penis circumference was 9.59 (3.08), mean (SD) erect penis length was 16.78 (2.55) and mean (SD) erect penis circumference was 12.03 (3.82).

Can't trust this research cause it' self reported. That's all

Research 10: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11182344/
2001 Feb;57(2):314-8.
doi: 10.1016/s0090-4295(00)00925-0.
Old research, however,

We performed a prospective measurement of penile dimensions in 111 men,18 to 19 years old (group A), and in 32 men, 40 to 68 years old (group B). We measured penile length and width in the flaccid state and after visual and manual self-stimulation in group A and after intracavernous injection of prostaglandin E(1) in group B.

Results: The mean flaccid length in group A (8.60 cm) and group B (9.22 cm) was significantly different. The mean erect length in group A (14.48 cm) and group B (14.18 cm) was not significantly different. The mean flaccid width at the base was significantly different between group A (3.08 cm) and group B (2.87cm), but the mean flaccid width at the glans was not (group A, 3.02 cm; group B, 3.01 cm). The mean erect width at the base (group A, 3.95 cm; group B, 3.50 cm) and the erect width of the glans (group A, 3.49 cm; group B, 3.32 cm) were significantly different.

No diff between elders and youngers, average is 14.5 cm

Research 11:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23841855/
2014 Jan;11(1):93-101.
doi: 10.1111/jsm.12244. Epub 2013 Jul 10.

Results: For this sample of 1,661 men, the mean erect penile length was 14.15 cm (SD = 2.66; range = 4 to 26 cm), and the mean erect penile circumference was 12.23 cm (SD = 2.23; range = 3 to 19). Participant characteristics were not associated with measured length or circumference. Most men measured their penis while alone, using hand stimulation to become erect.

Conclusions: In this sample of men who measured their erect penile length and circumference for the purposes of receiving a condom sized to fit their erect penis, we found a mean erect penile length of 14.15 cm and a mean erect penile circumference of 12.23 cm. The self-reported erect penile dimensions in this study are consistent with other penile dimension research. Also, findings suggest that mode of getting an erection may influence erect penile dimensions. Additionally, how a man becomes erect for self-measurement may be associated with his erect penile length and/or circumference.

Source: Trust me bro, I don't lie about my penis size.

Also another funny part of magazine article is when they say "size increase" they show year of publication versus penis size chart, there is no fucking word about youngers, however after that they say than younger people have bigger penises while in 2010 - 2021 the mean age is 50

Conclusion:
Don't trust all information that you read in magazines or in the internet. DYOR. That doesn't take much time.

As we can see the mean size is around 14 - 14.5 cm, not fucking 15.23. Furtherless we can't trusted a lot of researchers that were took into account, cause they're self reported, after surgery and etc.

In my opinion, because testosterone levels have decreased, penis size have decreased too, because dick size for boys and breast size for girls depends on their hormones while puberty.

To understand that this fucking article was a lie I needed 2 seconds, to find proofs 15-20 minutes, to write this shit down 1 - 1.5 hour. So, if this fucking thread won't be in Best of the Best subforum, I won't write any more big threads with proofs, theories and etc.

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[Deleted member 21044]

Dnrd average zoomer is 7 inch.

 

[Deleted member 19798]

Dnrd average zoomer is 7 inch.

Maybe in the slums of mumbai

 

[lordgandy2000]

Dnrd average zoomer is 7 inch.

If you remove gooks, beaners and chinks average is 7.75 inches

 

[Deleted member 22886]

If you remove gooks, beaners and chinks average is 7.75 inches

FUCK YOU

 

[smoothsexy]

my gook friend has 8.8 inch penis (measured myself)

 

[c0pemaxxer]

dnr but good post

 

[Deleted member 22924]

over if you not have atleast 7 inches in 2023

 

[Bojack]

imagine caring about mens penis sizes LOL

 

[LiteralCaucasian]

This is a well structured and interesting post, but I tend to avoid speaking about my privates openly on an incel forum.

 

[Lucid]

Skim read. Good analysis.
But ye your erection tends to be correlate with your t levels. I can attest to that anecdotally but in general the lower t the likely your dick is small unless there is a rare case. Estrogen does play a role but test is the hormone for length and girth.

 

[malicieusss]

Not a word but seems like legit lifefuel for smallpeniscel

 

[Jigen]

Skim read. Good analysis.
But ye your erection tends to be correlate with your t levels. I can attest to that anecdotally but in general the lower t the likely your dick is small unless there is a rare case. Estrogen does play a role but test is the hormone for length and girth.

Prenatal T and pubertal DHT levels have the biggest influence on penis size.

 

[5.5psl]

Nice and high effort thread

 

[HighClassMaxing]

You already know

Dnrd

But still 6.5nbp minimum that u need

 

[Deleted member 22354]

Bump and I totally agree OP, some users here are completely delusional

 

[OnlyHeightMatters]

Mirin your autism breaking down jew psyop which no1 will read.

 

[sub5outsider]

Skim read. Good analysis.
But ye your erection tends to be correlate with your t levels. I can attest to that anecdotally but in general the lower t the likely your dick is small unless there is a rare case. Estrogen does play a role but test is the hormone for length and girth.

i dont think low t means you will have small dick i have low t and im a genetic trash and im average 6 inches average girth

 

[pneumocystosis]

13-14?
That’s interesting.
I’ve seen 5 dudes cocks in total throughout my life and they were all bigger than that… I’d say they were 15-16 range

 

[Deleted member 24427]

13-14?
That’s interesting.
I’ve seen 5 dudes cocks in total throughout my life and they were all bigger than that… I’d say they were 15-16 range

13-14 is cope average 18 year old is 15-16 cm

 

[Deleted member 22886]

13-14 is cope average 18 year old is 15-16 cm

Nah, 14.5 -15 in the best case scenario

 

[Deleted member 24427]

Nah, 14.5 -15 in the best case scenario

NPB

 

[Deleted member 22886]

NPB

Nah, NBPL can't be 15 on average lol. You can reread this thread and look at some researches that I have mentioned. In 2001 average BPL penis was 14.5 in youngers and 14.1 in 50+ men

 

[Sleeper]

Looks like its up to us fags to go around measuring dudes penis's for a few decades so we can put this to rest once and for all

 

[Deleted member 27605]

I saw a lot of penises at a nude place that I used to bathe at. It's all over the map and everyone seemed to be in generally the same range, some bigger some smaller didn't really matter at all in that environment. Literally only ever saw one skinny guy maybe 18 or 19 with a freakishly large dick. Some old men with giant fat pads ofc look smaller.

 

[Deleted member 22886]

I saw a lot of penises at a nude place that I used to bathe at

They're not erected