How to cope with the fact that I'll never be an androgynous prettyboy like Hwei?

[Sasuke177]

No matter what I do I can never become an androgynous prettyboy.

I have no noteable feminine features except the fact that my nose is SLIGHTLY upturned.

My gonial angle is 114-117, my bigonial width is 90% of my bizygomatic width, my masseters muscles are always bloated looking too so it looks even more square (brutal), and even my ramus is too long compared to my mandible (not recessed)

My brow ridge, my nose, my forehead slope, my eyebrows, my face shape, and to a lesser extent my eyes are all either within the MASCULINE ideal or too masculinized. My face gets carried by dimorphism, but I'm 5'9, average sized hands and small wrists so I have no masculine appeal either. It's so brutal that even seeing ugly masculine androgynous looking women on the bus that I would never fuck makes me cry on the way to uni.

I can't even enjoy sex anymore without having all my body hair shaved with no reflective surface present because I'm always reminded that I'll never look like Hwei. Only way I can cum is if I close my eyes and visualize everything from the third person and substitute myself out for Hwei, almost like I'm watching porn while I'm fucking (hard to explain). Women probably think I'm bipolar or practicing intermittent asexuality with how flaky I am. I'm not even ugly I'm just not an androgynous prettyboy. It's not even like I'm trans either I think women are so aesthetically uninteresting and boring I would kill myself If I turned into a woman. The only surgery I can do is a skull transplant, over. I must leave this place and rope immediately, I will never be cutecel.

 

[Deleted member 21345]

Prettyboys like chalamet, kater, chico etc have a harmony of masculine and feminine features and are actually higher T than the average guy. Not the same as a cutecel who has no dimorphism either way usually

Even from the art hwei has a strong lower third, strong zygos, and even decent browbone. Balance out by feminine PCT, lips, skin and makeup

But yeah if you're pure ogre it's over

 

[St.TikTokcel]

 

[anthony111553]

If you have an Ogre face and don't look like Randy Orton, it's over.

 

[Sasuke177]

Prettyboys like chalamet, kater, chico etc have a harmony of masculine and feminine features and are actually higher T than the average guy. Not the same as a cutecel who has no dimorphism either way usually

Even from the art hwei has a strong lower third, strong zygos, and even decent browbone. Balance out by feminine PCT, lips, skin and makeup

But yeah if you're pure ogre it's over

Yes that's true but their faces are usually on the lower end of the masculine ideal and they have insane harmony + some feminine feature.

Timothee's gonial angle is like 126 (higher end of ideal) with a short ramus, feminine face shape (wide), with a feminine nose and masculine brow region. I have none of these sad over!

Kater looks too masculine and chico looks like a boring normie.

Would rather be cutecel only neoteny no dimorphism than too masculine ogre.

 

[TwoFace]

this has to be gay bro cuz wtf

 

[Sasuke177]

this has to be gay bro cuz wtf

Yeah it kinda is a little gay ngl. That's not gonna stop me though

 

[Deleted member 21345]

Yeah it kinda is a little gay ngl. That's not gonna stop me though

I don't know if it's gay but you probably have an "erotic target location error"

Erotic target location error - Wikipedia

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The fact that you don't like sex without shaving yourself is a red flag. Somehow attracted to yourself as a participant which is not gay in the usual sense, but not regular straight male secuality. Related to trannyism but you're not a tranny

 

[Jpg]

Would mog hard with a nosejob and straight hair

 

[NarrowBones]

Do I have potential to be a pretty boy

 

[Sasuke177]

I don't know if it's gay but you probably have an "erotic target location error"

Erotic target location error - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The fact that you don't like sex without shaving yourself is a red flag. Somehow attracted to yourself as a participant which is not gay in the usual sense, but not regular straight male secuality. Related to trannyism but you're not a tranny

Absolutely brutal first paragraph almost read my mind.

 

[Deleted member 21345]

Absolutely brutal first paragraph almost read my mind.

I actually think it describes alot of people here

Easy to look at the weird male model obsessions and call it all gay but it's not exactly like gay male sexuality

But they are more interested in themselves than they are in using looksmaxxing purely as a utilitarian method to get poosy. They're attracted to the idea of themselves as good looking men/slayers.

Very strange and unique thing. I think Patrick Bateman is an example of this which is why that movie had such a surge of popularity

 

[Deleted member 32285]

I wish I was a prettyboy too but alas Im an ugly recessed balding hook nosed short subhuman.

 

[vogue]

Would mog hard with a nosejob and straight hair

?

 

[nocopemaxxing]

Just accept that it is over for you buddy boyo

 

[Whatashame]

No matter what I do I can never become an androgynous prettyboy.

I have no noteable feminine features except the fact that my nose is SLIGHTLY upturned.

My gonial angle is 114-117, my bigonial width is 90% of my bizygomatic width, my masseters muscles are always bloated looking too so it looks even more square (brutal), and even my ramus is too long compared to my mandible (not recessed)

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My brow ridge, my nose, my forehead slope, my eyebrows, my face shape, and to a lesser extent my eyes are all either within the MASCULINE ideal or too masculinized. My face gets carried by dimorphism, but I'm 5'9, average sized hands and small wrists so I have no masculine appeal either. It's so brutal that even seeing ugly masculine androgynous looking women on the bus that I would never fuck makes me cry on the way to uni.

I can't even enjoy sex anymore without having all my body hair shaved with no reflective surface present because I'm always reminded that I'll never look like Hwei. Only way I can cum is if I close my eyes and visualize everything from the third person and substitute myself out for Hwei, almost like I'm watching porn while I'm fucking (hard to explain). Women probably think I'm bipolar or practicing intermittent asexuality with how flaky I am. I'm not even ugly I'm just not an androgynous prettyboy. It's not even like I'm trans either I think women are so aesthetically uninteresting and boring I would kill myself If I turned into a woman. The only surgery I can do is a skull transplant, over. I must leave this place and rope immediately, I will never be cutecel.

I was always the opposite of u and always wanted more masc features

 

[Sasuke177]

I was always the opposite of u and always wanted more masc features

Have you wanted more masc features for as long as you can remember? like since age 4? Did you have a strong masculine father figure? My androgynous prettyboy obsession didn't really start before puberty


Also I was a bit delusional in this post tbh. I definitely have a lot more masc features than the average person but I'm not hypermasc.

 

[Whatashame]

Have you wanted more masc features for as long as you can remember? like since age 4? Did you have a strong masculine father figure? My androgynous prettyboy obsession didn't really start before puberty


Also I was a bit delusional in this post tbh. I definitely have a lot more masc features than the average person but I'm not hypermasc.

yes since like 6th grade i would say i was much skinnier and with a more childish face than most people

 

[Sasuke177]

yes since like 6th grade i would say i was much skinnier and with a more childish face than most people

Sad incel trait: only desiring things you don't have whilst never appreciating what you do have

 

[Whatashame]

Sad incel trait: only desiring things you don't have whilst never appreciating what you do have

I was always appreciative tho cause i had a lot of girls showing interest on me, the problem was that men dont respect you at all

 

[Sasuke177]

I was always appreciative tho cause i had a lot of girls showing interest on me, the problem was that men dont respect you at all

Even sadder reality - cutecel is ideal

 

[Whatashame]

Even sadder reality - cutecel is ideal

I dont think so, i was this but i think a more masculine look is ideal so you r liked by woman and respected by mem

 

[Nick.Harte]

become an ogre and scare toilets

 

[fuxkdakikez]

testosterone ruined my face

 

[Sasuke177]

become an ogre and scare toilets

I like women too much for that...

This would be me if I ogremaxxed, no physical intimidation

 

[St.TikTokcel]

testosterone ruined my face

I doubt it since if you had high prenatal T, you'd look like this.

 

[fuxkdakikez]

I doubt it since if you had high prenatal T, you'd look like this.
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i was cute as a kid now im a 5’8 ogre

 

[St.TikTokcel]

i was cute as a kid now im a 5’8 ogre

Can't be an ogre at that height. Sure, I as well have a 1:1 bigonial to byzygomatic ratio but since I'm a recessed turbo manlet it does not make me an ogre.

 

[fuxkdakikez]

Can't be an ogre at that height. Sure, I as well have a 1:1 bigonial to byzygomatic ratio but since I'm a recessed turbo manlet it does not make me an ogre.

that’s what im saying idk what happened to me. i developed a ogre brow ridge and nose when neither of my parents have it. i went from looking white to turkish

 

[St.TikTokcel]

that’s what im saying idk what happened to me. i developed a ogre brow ridge and nose when neither of my parents have it. i went from looking white to turkish