Is there any benefit to injecting HGH over taking equivalent mk677 dosage?

[CupOfCoffee]

Injectable HGH is significantly more expensive, but in terms of increasing serum GH is is any more efficacious? Maybe it's because there's an upper limit on levels that can be reached with mk677, but with injecting you can get whatever dosage you decide to inject. Correct?

 

[Extra Chromosome]

is any more efficacious?

Yes, HGH is more powerful than mk677.

Maybe it's because there's an upper limit on levels that can be reached with mk677, but with injecting you can get whatever dosage you decide to inject. Correct?

Yes.

 

[Madness]

You can only reach about 3uis of gh a day. I suggest you pm me if you wanna know how to hit crazy levels with just peptides and sarms

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Yes, HGH is more powerful than mk677.

Yes.

I'm planning on taking 25mg mk677 everyday for a few months, take a while off, then hop on HGH injections during the summer. I want superhuman levels to max out my frame, and it'd be a godsend if I gain even 0.5 cm of height in the spinal bones.

You can only reach about 3uis of gh a day. I suggest you pm me if you wanna know how to hit crazy levels with just peptides and sarms

I'll do that right now sir

 

[Nibba]

Injectable HGH is significantly more expensive, but in terms of increasing serum GH is is any more efficacious? Maybe it's because there's an upper limit on levels that can be reached with mk677, but with injecting you can get whatever dosage you decide to inject. Correct?

To simulate high dose HGH use this

5000mcg CJC-1295 DAC subQ inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday (10,000-15,000mcg – 10-15mg total per week)

25mg MK-677 before bed every day

200mcg HUPERZINE A taken 3x per day (600mcg total).

IMPORTANT:
Do not go on CJC with DAC for more than 4 weeks without a 4 week break, as it will damage your pituitary

 

[Extra Chromosome]

I would recommend CJC DAC, it is like mk677 on steroids.

Pulsatile secretion of growth hormone (GH) persists during continuous stimulation by CJC-1295, a long-acting GH-releasing hormone analog - PubMed

CJC-1295 increased trough and mean GH secretion and IGF-I production with preserved GH pulsatility. The marked enhancement of trough GH levels by continuous GHRH stimulation implicates the importance of this effect on increasing IGF-I. Long-acting GHRH preparations may have clinical utility in...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

^also the GH bleed is a meme.

 

[Nibba]

I'll do that right now sir

He's gonna pm you what I just replied with. Both got it from the site more plates more dates

 

[CupOfCoffee]

To simulate high dose HGH use this

5000mcg CJC-1295 DAC subQ inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday (10,000-15,000mcg – 10-15mg total per week)

25mg MK-677 before bed every day

200mcg HUPERZINE A taken 3x per day (600mcg total).

IMPORTANT:
Do not go on CJC with DAC for more than 4 weeks without a 4 week break, as it will damage your pituitary

Isn't that Madness' stack?

 

[Nibba]

Isn't that Madness' stack?

He's gonna pm you what I just replied with. Both got it from the site more plates more dates

Neither of us made that by ourselves

 

[Extra Chromosome]

I am manufacturing a more hardcore stack btw. @Nibba @Madness

 

[Nibba]

I am manufacturing a more hardcore stack btw. @Nibba @Madness

Pm me with it and I'll add it to my HGH maxing guide and give you FULL credit. Does it involve igf1 ipamorelin and cjc1295? Because I made a similar one

 

[Extra Chromosome]

Pm me with it and I'll add it to my HGH maxing guide and give you FULL credit. Does it involve igf1 ipamorelin and cjc1295? Because I made a similar one

It involves cjc DAC and no DAC. idk when I will write it tho.
When do you plan to release your thread?

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Neither of us made that by ourselves

Well clearly but he posted it. Also wincel recommends GABA 3000 every other day as well.

 

[Nibba]

It involves cjc DAC and no DAC. idk when I will write it tho.
When do you plan to release your thread?

It's useless to stack those two man. Those are just ghrp . You need a secretagogue AND ghrh to be affective

 

[Extra Chromosome]

You need a secretagogue AND ghrh

yup. those werent the only components involved. I am just looking for safety/interactions and the issue of hyperinsulemia.

 

[Coping]

Wouldn’t taking HGH make the midface and other facial bones longer? If it can increase height it could prob elongate the face as well which will be fucking death

 

[Nibba]

yup. those werent the only components involved. I am just looking for safety/interactions and the issue of hyperinsulemia.

Yeah I'm currently taking niacin and berberine for that problem

 

[Extra Chromosome]

Wouldn’t taking HGH make the midface and other facial bones longer? If it can increase height it could prob elongate the face as well which will be fucking death

those are memes

 

[Madness]

Should I post a guide on mixing peptides?

 

[KrissKross]

Wouldn’t taking HGH make the midface and other facial bones longer? If it can increase height it could prob elongate the face as well which will be fucking death

Yeh my concern also

 

[Extra Chromosome]

Yeah I'm currently taking niacin and berberine for that problem

You know that niacin is mostly a meme? it needs a very strict schedule and huge dosing for an GH effect, I wrote on it in wincel's thread.
Could also damage the liver cuz you need 500mg q1h for 3 hours

 

[Nibba]

You know that niacin is mostly a meme? it needs a very strict schedule and huge dosing for an GH effect, I wrote on it in wincel's thread.
Could also damage the liver cuz you need 500mg q1h for 3 hours

Yeah I get that. I'm taking it until I can get my hands on gaba. Do you know if that requires any strict dosing like niacin does

 

[Extra Chromosome]

Yeah I get that. I'm taking it until I can get my hands on gaba. Do you know if that requires any strict dosing like niacin does

Hint: supplements are not going to be used for ghrps in my stack

I don't know about GABA HGH effects getting blunted due to glucose because the study did not mention that factor. But most likely no, there is no strict dosing regime, and it is likely unaffected by diet, but I would still take it on an empty stomach to be safe.
sci-hub.tw/10.1249/mss.0b013e318158b518

 

[Nibba]

Hint: supplements are not going to be used for ghrps in my stack

I don't know about GABA HGH effects getting blunted due to glucose because the study did not mention that factor. But most likely no, there is no strict dosing regime, and it is likely unaffected by diet, but I would still take it on an empty stomach to be safe.
sci-hub.tw/10.1249/mss.0b013e318158b518

Aight yeah. Did you make the stack yourself or find it online. Cuz I've found several resources on it online

 

[Extra Chromosome]

@Nibba

subjects were asked to consume their typical diet throughout the experimental period and to refrain from using any drug or supplement proposed to have an ergogenic effect.

Doesn't mention when do they eat pre-excersice, but you can assume it is a norman diet, so i wouldn't care about dosage time/diet.

Aight yeah. Did you make the stack yourself or find it online. Cuz I've found several resources on it online

Some from sites, some from papers. But I am still looking into the components.

 

[Nibba]

@Nibba

Doesn't mention when do they eat pre-excersice, but you can assume it is a norman diet, so i wouldn't care about dosage time/diet.

Some from sites, some from papers. But I am still looking into the components.

Yeah there seems to be a lot of conflicting information out there in regards to the drugs

 

[Michael15651]

Never heard of the other, I need to research it.

 

[future chadlite]

To simulate high dose HGH use this

5000mcg CJC-1295 DAC subQ inject before bed – Monday, Wednesday, Saturday (10,000-15,000mcg – 10-15mg total per week)

25mg MK-677 before bed every day

200mcg HUPERZINE A taken 3x per day (600mcg total).

IMPORTANT:
Do not go on CJC with DAC for more than 4 weeks without a 4 week break, as it will damage your pituitary

remember when i did this cycle like 2 months ago and habib called me a coper because i didnt get it from his source, i had legit barrett tier skin, too bad its expensive to upkeep and my long bones are fused, so i dont really want any more clavicle because it doesnt botehr me, m y main concern was height
i took cjc dac + hexarelin + mk677

 

[Nibba]

remember when i did this cycle like 2 months ago and habib called me a coper because i didnt get it from his source, i had legit barrett tier skin, too bad its expensive to upkeep and my long bones are fused, so i dont really want any more clavicle because it doesnt botehr me, m y main concern was height
i took cjc dac + hexarelin + mk677

Habib is a retarded shitskin shill. Don't bother with him

 

[shimada]

Mk677 has a feedback loop where the higher the igf1 gets the lower the gh pulses. This is why after 2 weeks the gh effects die out quite a bit but not completely.

To avoid the negative feedback loop mk has to be taken every other day.

The best part about doing this is only 10mg is needed whereas maximizing igf1 requires 25 to 50mg.

You can then taken HGH EoD and mk677 EoD alternating the too for a more costly 1 to 2 IU Gh daily and get the anti aging benefits

 

[Nibba]

Mk677 has a feedback loop where the higher the igf1 gets the lower the gh pulses. This is why after 2 weeks the gh effects die out quite a bit but not completely.

To avoid the negative feedback loop mk has to be taken every other day.

The best part about doing this is only 10mg is needed whereas maximizing igf1 requires 25 to 50mg.

You can then taken HGH EoD and mk677 EoD alternating the too for a more costly 1 to 2 IU Gh daily and get the anti aging benefits

Most of the research I've seen shows consistent results up to a year of taking it every day

 

[shimada]

Most of the research I've seen shows consistent results up to a year of taking it every day

If it truly worked continuously then there would be studies where fat was lost due to better nutrient partitioning from the gh but there isnt. Only lean mass increases which is from the igf1.

Serious lifters/competitors will do anything to get an edge and mk677 isnt really used because it's just not good enough.

 

[Extra Chromosome]

Mk677 has a feedback loop where the higher the igf1 gets the lower the gh pulses. This is why after 2 weeks the gh effects die out quite a bit but not completely.

To avoid the negative feedback loop mk has to be taken every other day.

The best part about doing this is only 10mg is needed whereas maximizing igf1 requires 25 to 50mg.

You can then taken HGH EoD and mk677 EoD alternating the too for a more costly 1 to 2 IU Gh daily and get the anti aging benefits

lol, mk677 gets more effective as it is used with time. It can be ran for a year and the effects peak at 6 months. That is taken daily.

If it truly worked continuously then there would be studies where fat was lost due to better nutrient partitioning from the gh but there isnt. Only lean mass increases which is from the igf1.

Why would that be? What if there was studies proving that it should be taken everydat 25mg for best results?

Serious lifters/competitors will do anything to get an edge and mk677 isnt really used because it's just not good enough.

We are not doing serious lifting here. Serious lifters also went on DNP once and died.

 

[Nibba]

If it truly worked continuously then there would be studies where fat was lost due to better nutrient partitioning from the gh but there isnt. Only lean mass increases which is from the igf1.

It is lost throughout the cycle

Two-month treatment of obese subjects with the oral growth hormone (GH) secretagogue MK-677 increases GH secretion, fat-free mass, and energy expenditure - PubMed

Obesity is associated with blunted GH secretion, unfavorable body composition, and increased cardiovascular mortality. The objective of this study was to investigate the effects of oral treatment with the GH secretagogue MK-677 on GH secretion and body composition in otherwise healthy obese...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[shimada]

It is lost throughout the cycle

Two-month treatment of obese subjects with the oral growth hormone (GH) secretagogue MK-677 increases GH secretion, fat-free mass, and energy expenditure - PubMed

Obesity is associated with blunted GH secretion, unfavorable body composition, and increased cardiovascular mortality. The objective of this study was to investigate the effects of oral treatment with the GH secretagogue MK-677 on GH secretion and body composition in otherwise healthy obese...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It says minor change but that could be from the BMR boost and then says a longer study is needed if it can affect fat which is true because at least 6 months is required.

I've seen all the studies and I have 450 15mg pills of mk677. I've tried it during a cut and if anything the high dose just makes me hungry which is counter productive.

Here it is:

FIG. 3. Body composition during 2-month treatment with MK-677 (25 mg)...

Download scientific diagram | Body composition during 2-month treatment with MK-677 (25 mg) or placebo daily in obese subjects. a and b show FFM and body fat, respectively, as assessed by DEXA. c and d show body cell mass and body fat, respectively, as calculated using the four-compartment...

www.researchgate.net

 

[CupOfCoffee]

Wouldn’t taking HGH make the midface and other facial bones longer? If it can increase height it could prob elongate the face as well which will be fucking death

If you keep good posture and mewing hard I'm sure it will limit any potential lengthening.

 

[psycophsez]

Should I post a guide on mixing peptides?

Hell yes mate. It would be very helpful for those of us who only found about aussie science recently.

 

[Madness]

Hell yes mate. It would be very helpful for those of us who only found about aussie science recently.

I posted it awhile ago. Go check it out

 

[psycophsez]

I posted it awhile ago. Go check it out

Thanks! I wasn't aware.