Is there anything I can do to my make my puberty last longer?

[cyberjap]

Is there anything I could take to make my growth plates stay open for longer?

 

[EthnicelAscension]

Inject E

 

[cyberjap]

Inject E

useless reply

 

[Deleted member 3702]

Inject E

 

[johnnydeep222]

Estrogen blackers. Google it

 

[EthnicelAscension]

useless reply

Dude it actually works, it just comes with all the sides of taking E

 

[cyberjap]

Dude it actually works, it just comes with all the sides of taking E

how?

Estrogen blackers. Google it

estrogen niggers

 

[EthnicelAscension]

how?

estrogen niggers

Nah I'm just fucking with u, but check this out:

Inhibiting Estrogen to Increase Height

It's important to evaluate inhibiting Estrogen to increase height after we found that estrogen inhibits TGF-Beta induced Smad3 signaling whi...

www.heightquest.com

 

[Deleted member 4053]

Take an AI to prolong your growth plates being open

 

[cyberjap]

Nah I'm just fucking with u, but check this out:

Inhibiting Estrogen to Increase Height

It's important to evaluate inhibiting Estrogen to increase height after we found that estrogen inhibits TGF-Beta induced Smad3 signaling whi...

www.heightquest.com

So AI’s help?

Take an AI to prolong your growth plates being open

Can I take one without HGH?

 

[Deleted member 4053]

Can I take one without HGH?

AIs themselves do not inherently inhibit growth, they just slow down the closing of your growth plates in order for you to then have more time to inject HGH.

 

[cyberjap]

AIs themselves do not inherently inhibit growth, they just slow down the closing of your growth plates in order for you to then have more time to inject HGH.

By how much longer?

 

[Deleted member 2756]

castrate yourself with anti-androgens and aromatase inhibitors.
alternatively, you could inject GnRH inhibitors.

also, GH rapidly ages your bone, even with an AI.

 

[cyberjap]

castrate yourself with anti-androgens and aromatase inhibitors.
alternatively, you could inject GnRH inhibitors.

also, GH rapidly ages your bone, even with an AI.

what downsides does the rapid age have?

 

[Swolepenisman]

just get atl least 8 hr of sleep take melatonin before bed
take vitamin supplements
work out especally do compout lifts
run
eat good foods
avoid stress
strestch
beg God to have mercy and give you more inches

 

[Deleted]

just get atl least 8 hr of sleep take melatonin before bed
take vitamin supplements
work out especally do compout lifts
run
eat good foods
avoid stress
strestch
beg God to have mercy and give you more inches

Beg for Pitt bones

 

[cyberjap]

just get atl least 8 hr of sleep take melatonin before bed
take vitamin supplements
work out especally do compout lifts
run
eat good foods
avoid stress
strestch
beg God to have mercy and give you more inches

I thought melatonin was bad

just get atl least 8 hr of sleep take melatonin before bed
take vitamin supplements
work out especally do compout lifts
run
eat good foods
avoid stress
strestch
beg God to have mercy and give you more inches

If I was short I’d kms, im so glad my dad is 6’4

 

[Swolepenisman]

I thought melatonin was bad

If I was short I’d kms, im so glad my dad is 6’4

whats yur age? get x ray
and a small dose of like 5mg of melatonin before bed is good for better sleep

 

[cyberjap]

whats yur age? get x ray
and a small dose of like 5mg of melatonin before bed is good for better sleep

15 and 4 months

 

[Swolepenisman]

15 and 4 months

lol youre still growing how tall are you

 

[cyberjap]

lol youre still growing how tall are you

6ft

 

[Alexanderr]

You want to heightmax and buy HGH but know absolutely nothing about the topic. You’ve obviously not spent a second of research on something you’ll be spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on. That is if you go trough with it, of course.

 

[Deleted member 2756]

what downsides does the rapid age have?

closure of the epiphyseal growth plates.
buy a couple of KG's of glucosamine + chondroitin powder and dose it at a couple of grams daily.
doing so will increase the proliferative and differentiation activity of chondrocytes within the cartilage.

 

[cyberjap]

You want to heightmax and buy HGH but know absolutely nothing about the topic. You’ve obviously not spent a second of research on something you’ll be spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on. That is if you go trough with it, of course.

Why wouldn’t I?

 

[Alexanderr]

Why wouldn’t I?

The risks that come with injecting and taking stuff might put you off. Or it’s the price of the whole endeavor.

 

[Deleted member 4946]

castrate yourself with anti-androgens and aromatase inhibitors.
alternatively, you could inject GnRH inhibitors.

also, GH rapidly ages your bone, even with an AI.

LOL, anyway i think he'd be fine on SAM-E to increase his DNA methylation and keep his growth plate active and glucosamine+chondroitin+msm to increase proliferation and differentiation. Loss of DNA methylation is associated with the DNA's programmed growth plate senescence (deterioration)

Growth plate senescence is associated with loss of DNA methylation - PubMed

The overall body size of vertebrates is primarily determined by longitudinal bone growth at the growth plate. With age, the growth plate undergoes programmed senescence, causing longitudinal bone growth to slow and eventually cease. Indirect evidence suggests that growth plate senescence occurs...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

'This finding is consistent with the hypothesis that the mechanism limiting replication of growth plate chondrocytes in vivo involves loss of DNA methylation and, thus, loss of DNA methylation might be a fundamental biological mechanism that limits longitudinal bone growth in mammals'

 

[cyberjap]

LOL, anyway i think he'd be fine on SAM-E to increase his DNA methylation and keep his growth plate active and glucosamine+chondroitin+msm to increase proliferation and differentiation. Loss of DNA methylation is associated with the DNA's programmed growth plate senescence (determination)

Growth plate senescence is associated with loss of DNA methylation - PubMed

The overall body size of vertebrates is primarily determined by longitudinal bone growth at the growth plate. With age, the growth plate undergoes programmed senescence, causing longitudinal bone growth to slow and eventually cease. Indirect evidence suggests that growth plate senescence occurs...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

'This finding is consistent with the hypothesis that the mechanism limiting replication of growth plate chondrocytes in vivo involves loss of DNA methylation and, thus, loss of DNA methylation might be a fundamental biological mechanism that limits longitudinal bone growth in mammals'

What do you think of 5-8iu’s of HGH daily + SAM-E?

 

[Deleted member 2756]

What do you think of 5-8iu’s of HGH daily + SAM-E?

why waste money on GH?

peptides are just as good, and that's coming from someone whos taken GH and peptides.

 

[Deleted member 2756]

i swear u have said in another thread that peptides r cope compared to
gh

nah, mind changed.

hexarelin is especially great, many benefits.

 

[cyberjap]

why waste money on GH?

peptides are just as good, and that's coming from someone whos taken GH and peptides.

which peptides instead of GH?

 

[Deleted member 2756]

which peptides instead of GH?

pralmorelin, hexarelin and CJC-1295 DAC.

I combine them with GH.

 

[Deleted member 4946]

What do you think of 5-8iu’s of HGH daily + SAM-E?

That would be really effective, plus glucoasime+chondroitin+msm to increase chondrocyte proliferation and MSM to induce mass osteoblast differentiation. this is what doctors mean when DNA limit's your bone growth. As you age, methylation gets lower as seen in the experiment on rabbits who as they aged, their DNA methylation got lower and the amount of proliferative chondrocytes got lower as well, this is where epigenetic clocks come in: https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-019-1824-y

Epigenetic heredity of human height

Genome‐wide SNP analyses have identified genomic variants associated with adult human height. However, these only explain a fraction of human height variation, suggesting that significant information might have been systematically missed by SNP ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Basically slows aging

 

[cyberjap]

That would be really effective, plus glucoasime+chondroitin+msm to increase chondrocyte proliferation and MSM to induce mass osteoblast differentiation. this is what doctors mean when DNA limit's your bone growth. As you age, methylation gets lower as seen in the experiment on rabbits who as they aged, their DNA methylation got lower and the amount of proliferative chondrocytes got lower as well, this is where epigenetic clocks come in: https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-019-1824-y

Epigenetic heredity of human height

Genome‐wide SNP analyses have identified genomic variants associated with adult human height. However, these only explain a fraction of human height variation, suggesting that significant information might have been systematically missed by SNP ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Basically slows aging

I see, I have some glucosamine + chondroitin rn but I haven’t taken any yet

 

[Deleted member 4946]

I see, I have some glucosamine + chondroitin rn but I haven’t taken any yet

well... also take folic acid (800 mcg) and folinic acid (800 mcg) with the SAM-E (2000 mg)

 

[cyberjap]

well... also take folic acid (800 mcg) and folinic acid (800 mcg) with the SAM-E (2000 mg)

Anything else I should take?

 

[Deleted member 4946]

Anything else I should take?

well i guess that's it pre much and HGH of course, and IGF-1 lr3/IGF-1 DES (if you know how to inject in your growth plate) and hexarelin for mass stimulation of ur pi3k pathway, also if u want to inhibit FGF-2 which inhibits longitudinal bone growth as well, just take astragalus, but as of right now it is sold out everywhere (the Koreans used astragalus to make their short kids get taller)

P.S i don't think it is really that necessary (Astragalus) if u are already increasing ur DNA methylation but anyway if you wanna grow super tall fast you can do that

 

[Alexanderr]

That would be really effective, plus glucoasime+chondroitin+msm to increase chondrocyte proliferation and MSM to induce mass osteoblast differentiation. this is what doctors mean when DNA limit's your bone growth. As you age, methylation gets lower as seen in the experiment on rabbits who as they aged, their DNA methylation got lower and the amount of proliferative chondrocytes got lower as well, this is where epigenetic clocks come in: https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-019-1824-y

Epigenetic heredity of human height

Genome‐wide SNP analyses have identified genomic variants associated with adult human height. However, these only explain a fraction of human height variation, suggesting that significant information might have been systematically missed by SNP ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Basically slows aging

Would this be a decent stack?

• Mod-grf 1-29 (CJC-1295 no DAC)
• Hexalerin
• GHRP-2
• SAM-E
• Folinic Acid
• Folic Acid
• Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor
• Glucosamine
• Chondroitin
• MSM

 

[Deleted member 4946]

Would this be a decent stack?

• Mod-grf 1-29 (CJC-1295 no DAC)
• Hexalerin
• GHRP-2
• SAM-E
• Folinic Acid
• Folic Acid
• Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor
• Glucosamine
• Chondroitin
• MSM

That stack is too op, not even gigantism patients have such optimal conditions for growth, man ill be so damn curious for your results

 

[cyberjap]

Would this be a decent stack?

• Mod-grf 1-29 (CJC-1295 no DAC)
• Hexalerin
• GHRP-2
• SAM-E
• Folinic Acid
• Folic Acid
• Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor
• Glucosamine
• Chondroitin
• MSM

for what

That stack is too op, not even gigantism patients have such optimal conditions for growth, man ill be so damn curious for your results

What would be a good stack for me to get wider wrists? I’m tired of being a framelet

 

[Deleted member 4946]

for what

What would be a good stack for me to get wider wrists? I’m tired of being a framelet

inject IGF-1 DES into your wrists

 

[cyberjap]

inject IGF-1 DES into your wrists

how would that be different from just injecting it anywhere else

 

[Deleted member 4946]

how would that be different from just injecting it anywhere else

IGF-1 DES affects a localised area, this is why i didn't like Dyorotic's idea of IGF-1 DES instead of IGF-1 LR3 for height growth, lets be honest who here actually knows how to inject into a knee growth plate?

 

[cyberjap]

IGF-1 DES affects a localised area, this is why i didn't like Dyorotic's idea of IGF-1 DES instead of IGF-1 LR3 for height growth, lets be honest who here actually knows how to inject into a knee growth plate?

so what would be best to get a general wider/bigger frame? I want wider shoulders and waist

 

[Deleted member 4946]

so what would be best to get a general wider/bigger frame? I want wider shoulders and waist

Inject IGF-1 DES at your deltoids

 

[Alexanderr]

That stack is too op, not even gigantism patients have such optimal conditions for growth, man ill be so damn curious for your results

I don’t have all the shit yet but I’ll be getting them one by one until I’ve got all of them.

 

[BackFromTheMogging]

LOL, anyway i think he'd be fine on SAM-E to increase his DNA methylation and keep his growth plate active and glucosamine+chondroitin+msm to increase proliferation and differentiation. Loss of DNA methylation is associated with the DNA's programmed growth plate senescence (deterioration)

Growth plate senescence is associated with loss of DNA methylation - PubMed

The overall body size of vertebrates is primarily determined by longitudinal bone growth at the growth plate. With age, the growth plate undergoes programmed senescence, causing longitudinal bone growth to slow and eventually cease. Indirect evidence suggests that growth plate senescence occurs...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

'This finding is consistent with the hypothesis that the mechanism limiting replication of growth plate chondrocytes in vivo involves loss of DNA methylation and, thus, loss of DNA methylation might be a fundamental biological mechanism that limits longitudinal bone growth in mammals'

How much time can you add of "openess" with gluco+msm+chondr do you recon ? Is it actually noticeable or is it cope ?

why waste money on GH?

peptides are just as good, and that's coming from someone whos taken GH and peptides.

Wait you used to say peptides are shit compared to GH what changed?

update puberty maxxing thread? or go high iq on disc ngl

What's this discord thing people keep talking about ?

well i guess that's it pre much and HGH of course, and IGF-1 lr3/IGF-1 DES (if you know how to inject in your growth plate) and hexarelin for mass stimulation of ur pi3k pathway, also if u want to inhibit FGF-2 which inhibits longitudinal bone growth as well, just take astragalus, but as of right now it is sold out everywhere (the Koreans used astragalus to make their short kids get taller)

P.S i don't think it is really that necessary (Astragalus) if u are already increasing ur DNA methylation but anyway if you wanna grow super tall fast you can do that

Dude you are high iq af can I slide in your PMs?

 

[Deleted member 4946]

How much time can you add of "openess" with gluco+msm+chondr do you recon ? Is it actually noticeable or is it cope ?

Wait you used to say peptides are shit compared to GH what changed?

What's this discord thing people keep talking about ?

Dude you are high iq af can I slide in your PMs?

I guess if you want to you can slide into my PMs as for how long you can keep your growth plate active, like i said xcrunner put a client on the SAM-E and folic acid (did not include folinic acid) nevertheless this guy was 17 years old so you would assume he would be close to stop growing, but thanks to it when he was 23 years old he was still growing and he still looked the exact same as he did back when he was 17 years old (very little age development), his doctor said he was still growing as his plates were still really quite active, what makes it even better is that at the age of 23 the guy made it to 6'3, his father was 5'6 and his mother was 5'3. Also another thing is that hypermethylation is how those gigantism patients grow super tall regardless of their genetics, it may have lowered their estrogen and testosterone but not even people who are castrated get as tall as gigantism patients. DNA is not THAT MUCH dependent on your sex hormones, this is evident as just before your puberty starts your growth velocity slows down A LOT.

DNA will always be present in us humans to stop us getting TOO BIG (this is why gigantism patients die so early), but this will always occur as a loss of DNA methylation, increasing the methylation will mean the growth plate activity won't stop, therefore it won't close (I don't know for how long but I'm assuming you could go into your 40's as DNA methylation gets extremely low anyway at those ages)

 

[Slayerullah]

Pray 5 times per day

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Supraphysiological IGF1 and Testosterone Levels and low Estrogen Levels:
2mg/6IU HGH ED subq powder in bac water dissolved
250mcg DSIP subq powder in bac water dissolved
12.5mg Aromasin E2D orally

Androgens/Dickmaxxing:
4 Drops Titan 12% Dht gel on Dick ED


Reversing loss of dna methylation:
MSM 1000mg ED

Increasing growth plate proliferation:
Glucosamine 1500mg ED
Chondroitin 1200mg ED

Diet:
high protein, caloric surplus

Building blocks:
Vitamins/Minerals ED
K2
D3
Calcium
Magnesium
Zinc

Cost: ~ source dependant like 500-1k€ / month, hgh is most expensive followed by dsip and a lot of bac water

@Dyorotic2 @Strike_Poseidon @Alexanderr @cyberjap @Slyfex8 @Wincel

Opinion on this whole height/puberty/bonemaxx protocol please?

 

[Deleted member 2756]

Supraphysiological IGF1 and Testosterone Levels and low Estrogen Levels:
2mg/6IU HGH ED subq
250mcg DSIP subq
12.5mg Aromasin E2D orally

Androgens/Dickmaxxing:
4 Drops Titan 12% Dht gel on Dick ED


Reversing loss of dna methylation:
MSM 1000mg ED

Increasing growth plate proliferation:
Glucosamine 1500mg ED
Chondroitin 1200mg ED

Building blocks:
Vitamins/Minerals ED
K2
D3
Calcium
Magnesium
Zinc



@Dyorotic2 @Strike_Poseidon @Alexanderr @cyberjap @Slyfex8 @Wincel

Opinion on this whole height/puberty/bonemaxx protocol please?

great

bit overkill, but I mean sure, go for it. If you don't see results than at least you know you tried. Good luck.